This is the first thread I have ever posted. Pretty much all I have been playing lately is the Kingdom Hearts collection (1.5 and 2.5, been LOVING IT, especially the fully reorchestrated soundtrack, Shimamura is a genius) but that soundtrack is for a thousand other threads.
Playing all of these games has stirred some interesting theories in my head.
The journal description, "his heart may never find its way back where it belongs" got me thinking. In that phrasing, it made it seem like Terra was, in fact, slated to return.
So, naturally, I thought about what I think is the most sympathetic villain in KH: Xemnas.
So, in the wake of DDD, we realize that Nobodies who have been defeated are reborn as actual people once more.
We have also seen that, in the Sleeping Worlds (and also in Timeless River) that it is possible that multiple versions of the same individual can exist in a single spot.
Now, it seems like a person goes through four levels of existence: human, Heartless, Nobody and rebirth.
And if all Nobodies come back as people (excluding exceptions like Xion), that lends a whole new level of optimism to KHII.
Now, how about this: if people are reborn after fading as a Nobody, whose to say that, rather than Terranort, Xemnas wouldn't come back as just Terra?
I mean, it makes sense.
Remember what Terranort said right after his "birth." "Your body submits, your heart succumbs, so why does your mind resist?" Terra's will alone kept him alive.
Master Xehanort stole the heart, and was therefore able to steal everything else.
But what happens when the heart leaves the body?
Then Xehanort's lifeline to Terra's body is gone.
By that time he had firmly taken hold of Terra's body, so obviously he was still mostly in control as Xemnas.
But his grip had clearly, discernibly weakened.
In his search for the Chamber of Waking and his love for the Chamber of Repose, we see Xemnas is strongly defined by his love for his friends. Consciously or not, Xemnas accepts his sleeping memories from both his time as Xehanort and Terra, even though Xehanort's goals are predominant.
But Terra's are strong, too. He had the Organization SCOUR C.O. for Ventus, and he goes to the Chamber of Repose all the time.
So, it's clear Terra's influence was strong in him.
And the majority of Org. XIII (excluding bad eggs like Marluxia, Larxene, Xigbar) were not genuinely evil. Namine said it best: "bad or good, I don't know. They're a group of incomplete people who wish to become whole."
That's the girl who was held captive by them. She could see they weren't evil, all of them. But they were very "means-to-an-end" oriented, and that was the problem with them. That end was good, though. Except for the three who knew what was up.
So who's to say that Xemnas (the currently faded one, not the time-traveled saved one at the end of DDD) would not be reborn as Terra? The original heart would come back to the body, right? Especially since Xehanort's heart is so "busy" being emptied into thirteen vessels.
For those of you who read this far, thanks. What do you think? Plausible?
Playing all of these games has stirred some interesting theories in my head.
The journal description, "his heart may never find its way back where it belongs" got me thinking. In that phrasing, it made it seem like Terra was, in fact, slated to return.
So, naturally, I thought about what I think is the most sympathetic villain in KH: Xemnas.
So, in the wake of DDD, we realize that Nobodies who have been defeated are reborn as actual people once more.
We have also seen that, in the Sleeping Worlds (and also in Timeless River) that it is possible that multiple versions of the same individual can exist in a single spot.
Now, it seems like a person goes through four levels of existence: human, Heartless, Nobody and rebirth.
And if all Nobodies come back as people (excluding exceptions like Xion), that lends a whole new level of optimism to KHII.
Now, how about this: if people are reborn after fading as a Nobody, whose to say that, rather than Terranort, Xemnas wouldn't come back as just Terra?
I mean, it makes sense.
Remember what Terranort said right after his "birth." "Your body submits, your heart succumbs, so why does your mind resist?" Terra's will alone kept him alive.
Master Xehanort stole the heart, and was therefore able to steal everything else.
But what happens when the heart leaves the body?
Then Xehanort's lifeline to Terra's body is gone.
By that time he had firmly taken hold of Terra's body, so obviously he was still mostly in control as Xemnas.
But his grip had clearly, discernibly weakened.
In his search for the Chamber of Waking and his love for the Chamber of Repose, we see Xemnas is strongly defined by his love for his friends. Consciously or not, Xemnas accepts his sleeping memories from both his time as Xehanort and Terra, even though Xehanort's goals are predominant.
But Terra's are strong, too. He had the Organization SCOUR C.O. for Ventus, and he goes to the Chamber of Repose all the time.
So, it's clear Terra's influence was strong in him.
And the majority of Org. XIII (excluding bad eggs like Marluxia, Larxene, Xigbar) were not genuinely evil. Namine said it best: "bad or good, I don't know. They're a group of incomplete people who wish to become whole."
That's the girl who was held captive by them. She could see they weren't evil, all of them. But they were very "means-to-an-end" oriented, and that was the problem with them. That end was good, though. Except for the three who knew what was up.
So who's to say that Xemnas (the currently faded one, not the time-traveled saved one at the end of DDD) would not be reborn as Terra? The original heart would come back to the body, right? Especially since Xehanort's heart is so "busy" being emptied into thirteen vessels.
For those of you who read this far, thanks. What do you think? Plausible?