TAV's Master and the Org Theory

[Anima Relic]

I was wondering about TAV's Master. I know many have made theories about Terra fusing or merging with DS and MX or something similar and he became the Xehanort we know, BUT I was thinking that maybe it was TAV's Master that has become the Xehanort we know. I know we haven't heard anything about thier master, but I started thinking about teachers and students that call them masters. For example, in Karate, the students wear insignias or emblems to represent their school of karate. So I was thinking that TAV had symbols that represented thier Master. I need Aqua for this theory, but since we don't have a full picture of her like we do of Ven and Terra I'll just use them to give everyone an idea of what I'm trying to get at. Terra and Ven both have The Nobody Emblems that represent Nobodies on their clothing. Terra's is on his belt and Ven's is on his chest. I was thinking that maybe TAV's master was the one who became the Xehanort we know somehow. TAV's master could have borrowed MX's name, Xehanort. TAV's master could have lost his memories and only remembered part of MX's name, which was Xehanort. As for the Heartless insignia's if MX created the New enemies in BBS, then when Xehanort created artificial heartless, he could have remembered the heart from the New enemies symbol and used that to create the heartless symbol. Also, Xemnas could have remembered TAV's master's symbol and used that for the Nobodies symbol. Also, this would be the only reason why I might believe that the fourteenth member might have been Aqua. If the nobodies symbol was from TAV's master, then it'd be natural for Aqua to know about it and try to investigate why it's appearing in places all of a sudden. That's only if Aqua survived after BBS though.

Ok, sorry about the evil wall of text, so tell me what you guys think. Also, don't say "this has been discussed" because it's quite obvious I know that if I stated it in the second sentence of this evil wall of text :glare:

Here is the link for the Picture of Terra and Ven together. You can see the Nobodies Emblem very clear here. http://www.khinsider.com/images/BirthBySleep/screen 07.jpg

 

[Charlie K]

That isn't a nobody symbol, it's a new one..It's more of a Heartless Symbol...Heh, you could be on to something with VAT's Master being Xehanort..Cuz we don't know anything about him really.

 

[Anima Relic]

^ It clearly looks like a Nobody's symbol, just with a few differences, maybe the nobodies symbol was based off of that symbol?

 

[Essence of Elegy]

Btw, don't use such blocky paragraphs

It was already stated that TAV's master was someone else, not MX.

 

[gelandporn]

As I've said in the other topic, I can guarantee their master is Mickey for two reasons.

In BBS, after all three are divided, the king appears?
TN: It may be deeply related to the story, however I cannot tell whether or not that is a "King" from that current age.

Is the master who taught the three from the current series?
TN: I can't say.

 

[Anima Relic]

Btw, don't use such blocky paragraphs

It was already stated that TAV's master was someone else, not MX.

I never said MX was TAV's master, but you are write of blocky paragraphs, maybe that's what confused you when you thought I said MX was TAV's master.

EDIT: To Grace Assasin,

One Major Flaw to your theory about Mickey being TAV's master

Mickey was an apprentice to Yen Sid in BBS and he was still undergoing training.

 

[Gabranth]

I was thinking that maybe it was TAV's Master that has become the Xehanort we know.

Why would Xehanort be fighting Xehanort? Do you mean TAV's master was somebody else who upon losing his memories took on the name Xehanort?

Terra and Ven both have The Nobody Emblems that represent Nobodies on their clothing.

Those aren't nobody symbols

 

[Wehrmacht]

EDIT: To Grace Assasin,

One Major Flaw to your theory about Mickey being TAV's master

Mickey was an apprentice to Yen Sid in BBS and he was still undergoing training.

We don't know what he was teaching him (though I distinctly recall it being magic). He wasn't necessarily a keyblade apprentice.

 

[BetwiXt&Betw33nX]

ahahah Y do people say Its a Nobody SYMBOL!!...i mean c'mon

1. It cant b a Nobody symbol(no Nobodies in BBS)
2. It looks like a More Ridged version of the Heartles Symbol(Thank you Golden Knight 4 Pointing that out again, I said the same thing...but did they listen....NOPE)
3. The only way it looks Like a Nobody symbol,is Upside down(and still it looks more like the heartless symbol)

 

[The Twilight Prince]

We don't know what he was teaching him (though I distinctly recall it being magic). He wasn't necessarily a keyblade apprentice.

He did teach him magic, but my question is this. Why was Mickey having trouble with his keyblade if he wasn't training with it? I mean. Didn't he have it out, it disappeared, and he pulled it out again? To me, that signifies that he's having some sort of difficulty. *shrugs* Just how I see it.

 

[gelandporn]

He did teach him magic, but my question is this. Why was Mickey having trouble with his keyblade if he wasn't training with it? I mean. Didn't he have it out, it disappeared, and he pulled it out again? To me, that signifies that he's having some sort of difficulty. *shrugs* Just how I see it.

I've pointed out that he could easily be going to Yen Sid for some sagely advice. That hasn't happened to Sora, the keyblade leaving on its own for no reason, so obviously something is wrong. And people have the misconception that if he's a master, he must know everything.

 

[The Twilight Prince]

I've pointed out that he could easily be going to Yen Sid for some sagely advice. That hasn't happened to Sora, the keyblade leaving on its own for no reason, so obviously something is wrong. And people have the misconception that if he's a master, he must know everything.

I don't expect him to know EVERYTHING, but summoning your keyblade I would imagine should be a fairly simple task for a Master of three people who clearly know how to summon their own. Correction. While it hasn't disappeared at random, it DID appear in The World That Never Was out of nowhere when they were outside of the castle. It appeared in mid-air and Sora had a somewhat shocked look on his face and he took it and aimed it at the castle to create the pathway. It was as if the keyblade knew what it had to do. There is the possibility that something is going wrong with Mickey's keyblade. Or. Perhaps something is going on with his heart, making the keyblade reluctant as to whether or not he's the right choice...now there's something..

 

[Anima Relic]

ahahah Y do people say Its a Nobody SYMBOL!!...i mean c'mon

1. It cant b a Nobody symbol(no Nobodies in BBS)
2. It looks like a More Ridged version of the Heartles Symbol(Thank you Golden Knight 4 Pointing that out again, I said the same thing...but did they listen....NOPE)
3. The only way it looks Like a Nobody symbol,is Upside down(and still it looks more like the heartless symbol)

1. Just because Nobodies didn't exist in BBS, does not mean the symbol didn't.

2.It looks like a nobody and a heartless symbol. There isn't a X in the symbol so the only way it looks like the heartless symbol is the shape. If you just turned it upside down then it would look like the Nobody Symbol.

3.Read my number 2, if TAV's Master did become the Xehanort we know somehow, then we could say that the heartless symbol and nobody symbol was based off of this one. It makes some sense.

To Gabranth,

I only meant that TAV's Master could have became the Xehanort we know through some unknown reason and lost his memories of his previous life and took part of MX's name, which was Xehanort, since that was all he remembered.

To Hadesdragon

True, we don't exactly know if Mickey was Yen Sid's apprentice, but it is safe to say he was since the magicians apprentice thing from Fantasia and since KH IS part disney. In the pic we see of Yen Sid and Mickey together I believe Mickey was just summoning his keyblade, not performing magic, but he might have just been training to use magic as you said.

 

[Charlie K]

^ It clearly looks like a Nobody's symbol, just with a few differences, maybe the nobodies symbol was based off of that symbol?

Ehh..Stil lno. more like Heartless.No doubt about it.

 

[Anima Relic]

^well guess what? It wasn't confirmed that the symbol was more like the heartless or nobody symbol. So no one wins :glare: but at least I attain satisfaction from everyone's answers.

 

[gelandporn]

I don't expect him to know EVERYTHING, but summoning your keyblade I would imagine should be a fairly simple task for a Master of three people who clearly know how to summon their own. Correction. While it hasn't disappeared at random, it DID appear in The World That Never Was out of nowhere when they were outside of the castle. It appeared in mid-air and Sora had a somewhat shocked look on his face and he took it and aimed it at the castle to create the pathway. It was as if the keyblade knew what it had to do. There is the possibility that something is going wrong with Mickey's keyblade. Or. Perhaps something is going on with his heart, making the keyblade reluctant as to whether or not he's the right choice...now there's something..

What you effectively just did was question what I said and then answered it yourself with speculation.

Mickey going to Yen Sid, basically, is by no means proof or even evidence that he cannot be their master.

 

[Charlie K]

^ Still More Heartless like to me...But you think whatever, I suggest you get your eyes checked.Lol.

 

[Stars]

He did teach him magic, but my question is this. Why was Mickey having trouble with his keyblade if he wasn't training with it? I mean. Didn't he have it out, it disappeared, and he pulled it out again? To me, that signifies that he's having some sort of difficulty. *shrugs* Just how I see it.

Eh. I would agree with Twilight. If Mickey really a master, he shouldnt have a problem when he using a keyblade.

 

[Anima Relic]

^Right, do I have to make a thread debating this? :lol: I'd rather not, I've seen some of the debates on this site and they aren't pretty :glare:

 

[Charlie K]

Umm..No more stupid pointless threads..That have obvious answers with people not looking into things hard enough..