Riku and Xehanort's Heartless

[Tervenaq]

Heartless are born when darkness overtakes the heart right? Well Riku pretty much dove deepest into darkest you can go, thus becoming the likeness of Xehanort's Heartless. Does this in any way constitute Riku losing his heart? I think it does. No, Riku didnt neccesarily lose his heart, but its close enough. I'm just spouting off ideas.

Oh, and Riku seems to be both light and dark. Is he still human? He's been in the darkness so long, and can use its powers. I cant shake the feeling Riku is some kind of heartless/nobody hybrid. Darkness and Twilight and all that.

Yeh, these theories are kinda stupid, whatever! :lol:

 

[Aqua13]

melificent had her heart become darkness itself. but she still survived, probably because her heart was still in her body. just like riku, he dove into darkness but his heart wasnt removed from the body, so he couldnt have turned into a heartless.


riku folllows path to dawn, meaning he has both light and darkness

 

[Antiquity]

Yeah, Riku didn't lose his heart, Xehanort just possessed his body for a physical form and casted his heart off close to The Door of KH.

I'd say Riku is now half dark, as it said in the manga.
He's been in darkness so long and Xehanort's Heartless's remnants that remained in his heart sort of took away part of his humanity, but facing the light stopped him from losing himself completely IMO. He's sorta twilightish.

 

[Tervenaq]

Yeah, Riku didn't lose his heart, Xehanort just possessed his body for a physical form and casted his heart off close to The Door of KH.

I'd say Riku is now half dark, as it said in the manga.
He's been in darkness so long and Xehanort's Heartless's remnants that remained in his heart sort of took away part of his humanity, but facing the light stopped him from losing himself completely IMO. He's sorta twilightish.

I think I thats what im trying to say. He's just not normal. I just wanna know how this affects the rules. The Rules being lose your heart, become heartless, and a nobody materializes somewhere.

 

[Crimson Jazz]

Heartless are born when darkness overtakes the heart right? Well Riku pretty much dove deepest into darkest you can go, thus becoming the likeness of Xehanort's Heartless. Does this in any way constitute Riku losing his heart? I think it does. No, Riku didnt neccesarily lose his heart, but its close enough. I'm just spouting off ideas.

Riku didn't even come close to losing his heart. He lost his body. In fact, he lost it twice.

Oh, and Riku seems to be both light and dark. Is he still human? He's been in the darkness so long, and can use its powers. I cant shake the feeling Riku is some kind of heartless/nobody hybrid. Darkness and Twilight and all that.

Yes, he is still human.

 

[Azrael]

Riku is still human, he never became a Heartless since his heart remained in his body

 

[Anagram]

Like everybody said Riku never became a heartless just possesed by one.

 

[Antiquity]

I think I thats what im trying to say. He's just not normal. I just wanna know how this affects the rules. The Rules being lose your heart, become heartless, and a nobody materializes somewhere.

A Nobody isn't always materialized. You need a strong heart for that.
Since Riku never lost his heart, only his body and since his heart returned, he has no Nobody.
Probably if the body is destroyed, than the person may form a Heartless, but probably not a Nobody.

 

[Audo]

Riku never lost his heart.
And he never became a Heartless.

 

[TrueRoxas527]

Yeah but an interesting question, if a Heartless and a Nobody are born when the heart leaves a body and soul... what would happen when the body simply disappears, leaving the heart and soul withering in another body?
(what happened to Riku in the first game)

 

[OliviaKH3]

hey hey its not bad.

 

[Audo]

Yeah but an interesting question, if a Heartless and a Nobody are born when the heart leaves a body and soul... what would happen when the body simply disappears, leaving the heart and soul withering in another body?
(what happened to Riku in the first game)

Err. When the body simply disappears, it is what turns into a Nobody. Which is not what happened to Riku at all.

 

[Cissy]

Err. When the body simply disappears, it is what turns into a Nobody. Which is not what happened to Riku at all.

Does he mean if a body dies?

'Cause, if a body dies, I'm assuming that's "normal" dying.

 

[Audo]

Well Riku's body never died anyways, lol.

 

[TrueRoxas527]

No, no, when the soul leaves the body, it's dying. If the body disappears because there is a different body, it's not dying because the heart and soul are just in that other body instead of disappearing.

 

[Audo]

No, no, when the soul leaves the body, it's dying. If the body disappears because there is a different body, it's not dying because the heart and soul are just in that other body instead of disappearing.

Um... what the heck are you talking about with two bodies? Someone can only have one.

 

[OmniChaos]

Yeah but an interesting question, if a Heartless and a Nobody are born when the heart leaves a body and soul... what would happen when the body simply disappears, leaving the heart and soul withering in another body?
(what happened to Riku in the first game)

No, no, when the soul leaves the body, it's dying. If the body disappears because there is a different body, it's not dying because the heart and soul are just in that other body instead of disappearing.

=d I'm going to go out on a limb and assume you are talking about when Xehanort took Riku's body, correct...? If so, then Xehanort only expelled his heart... Riku's soul remained with his hijacked body...
If not, the please explain what you are trying to say... =<

 

[Cissy]

Xehanort's "heart" so to speak was occupying Riku's heart-less body.

So, Riku's body COULD NOT turn into a nobody.

Riku's heart simply hovered behind the Door of Darkness. When Xehanort's Heartless was destroyed, Riku got his body back.

So, he had no heartless, and no nobody.