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My least favorite character, and what I like and dislike about this certain individual



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It’s not about him leaving Snow White or aurora, it’s about him trusting others, and in most worlds he didn’t really trust the villains 100% he was suspicious of them at least most of them.
Granted, it's exaggerated how much Terra was played, when he actually learned to be more suspicious on his journey. But being 100% oblivious to the actual main villain until it was too late makes makes all of that even more ironic. Including the fact that almost very time he encounters one of the antagonists in the Disney-worlds, he goes along with their plans so some extent. Aqua & Ven opposed characters like Maleficent, Hades & Hook since the very first moment.

Sure, it's largely about the timing, which characters they met and what they learned first. But the original question of this thread is why someone is your least favorite character. I hope you could admit that Terra did make some valid mistakes, so some people choosing him isn't completely ungrounded.
 

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As cool as the idea of Anti-hero Terra sounds, that's basically a repeat of Kingdom Hearts Riku. But unlike Riku, Terra doesn't have any incentive to do morally questionable things. Riku believed that Sora abandoned him for Donald and Goofy and he also wanted to save Kairi by any means necessary. What would Terra's incentive for villainy be? another jealousy arc?
My take from it is the original idea with Terra wasn't being another Riku, but someone who might have already been a morally questionable guy. A Xehanort-lite, which was why Xehanort wanted him.


“Haha folks This is about Aqua not Terra.”
 

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Granted, it's exaggerated how much Terra was played, when he actually learned to be more suspicious on his journey. But being 100% oblivious to the actual main villain until it was too late makes makes all of that even more ironic. Including the fact that almost very time he encounters one of the antagonists in the Disney-worlds, he goes along with their plans so some extent. Aqua & Ven opposed characters like Maleficent, Hades & Hook since the very first moment.

Sure, it's largely about the timing, which characters they met and what they learned first. But the original question of this thread is why someone is your least favorite character. I hope you could admit that Terra did make some valid mistakes, so some people choosing him isn't completely ungrounded.
Well🤔 No one said he didn’t make mistake but like I said he didn’t trust them hundred percent other then hook, remember that even kh1 Sora was ok with hades talking with him when they first met, and before you use the “his a kid” card then the same about terra he maybe a young adult but just like Sora it’s his first time going to the outside world and it’s actually good that he doesn’t judge someone based on how they look, And yea terra did some mistakes I’m not defending that what I’m saying is he wasn’t oblivious to the point he will follow everyone without being a little suspicious of them, and just like I said terra was unlucky to always run to the villains first unlike ven and aqua who knew about the villains cause they were informed that they were evil before meeting them,

And yes I’m aware the thread is about why Aqua is my least fav and I wish it would stay that way but can’t force people to not talk about the other two lol I want to see what others think of aqua but Soo far all I hear is terra this terra that, but I’m ok with it I’m happy as long this thread is active for many people to see.
 

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Granted, it's exaggerated how much Terra was played, when he actually learned to be more suspicious on his journey. But being 100% oblivious to the actual main villain until it was too late makes makes all of that even more ironic. Including the fact that almost very time he encounters one of the antagonists in the Disney-worlds, he goes along with their plans so some extent. Aqua & Ven opposed characters like Maleficent, Hades & Hook since the very first moment.

Sure, it's largely about the timing, which characters they met and what they learned first. But the original question of this thread is why someone is your least favorite character. I hope you could admit that Terra did make some valid mistakes, so some people choosing him isn't completely ungrounded.
if you want to understand my point of view on aqua then read This

Aqua... is a character I don’t hate but I also don’t love, I’m just not a big fan of her, i don’t approve of her popularity because her character is just bland, she’s definitely not a bad character but she is a mediocre at best, Aqua being a Female and the fact that she is associated with the color blue (most likely the most favored color in the world) is probably all that she has, which in my opinion is what makes her popular, but as a character she is less interesting then most of the main characters, all she is, is a strong female character and her main color is blue, Like are you for real Nomura? Blue hair, blue eyes, blue clothing, blue armor, blue wayfinder, blue keyblade, blue glider, Blue station of awakening, Like OKAY Nomura I get it you’re trying to shove her down my throat cause I too love the color blue but seriously stop... nothing really is interesting about her, I get that fans can like her and nothing wrong with that, just like me liking Laraxene (she is a great villain) But why overrate her? Heck even Nomura in one of his old interviews was worried that aqua wouldn’t be popular enough cause she is new and isn’t connected to the lore as much as ventus and terra, but look at her now... she’s in the top and I just don’t get it... is it the fact that she is a girl? Or is it that her color is blue? Or cause she is strong and can handle her own in a fight? There is just nothing sparkling about her, there’s just no real reasons to put her above many awesome characters, sadly all I see is that people will try to make dumb excuses for her, claiming there are many reasons why she is An amazing character, but guess what? none of those reasons are enough for her to top the other characters, honestly I would have liked to see why many say aqua is an amazing character, I was looking forward to seeing their reasons, but none of the reasons they brought Is Good enough in fact it’s weak.

Either way Here are the reasons why they say aqua is the best character (which I will debunk now)

“Reason Number 1”. Because She is selfless

Well guess what? Pretty much most of the KH characters are selfless
1. Sora (sacrifices himself for his friends)
2. Ventus (scarified himself for terra and aqua)
3. Terra (willing to sacrifice himself for his friends)
4. Xion (kills herself so everyone can be happy)
5. Kairi (is willing to do anything to protect those that she holds dear)
6. Riku (pretty much his whole journey, he was selfless for the sake of the people he cares about)
7. Namine (sacrificed her own happiness just for Sora and his friends can be happy)

“Reason Number 2”. Because she didn’t stray from the Good path

Well ofc she won’t stray from her path wanna know why?
1. In bbs Eraqus wasn’t a jerk to her like he was to terra and ventus, he trusted her (unlike terra) and didn’t lock her in the land of departure (like ventus) and most importantly he didn’t fear her like he did with terra (darkness) and ventus (the X-Blade)

2. She didn’t have Xehanort on her tail like terra and ventus did, she wasn’t part of xehanort plan so he decided to let her roam free, basically she didn’t stray from her path like her friends cause she didn’t have the main antagonist on her trail...

3. Her Fans say she never stray from the Good path and never weavers? But looks like she did both... Aqua trust in terra weavers (believes an old witch rather then her best friend) and when she fell into darkness she gave up numerous times ( not really a bad things I actually like those flaws of her) so technically means she strayed from the Good path, her trust in her allies weakened and in the realm of darkness she gave up and was willing to accept darkness and fades away and eventually become tainted with darkness (Anti Aqua) just like terra and ventus, so what is that about her not straying from her path again? In bbs she was the only lucky one not to be targeted by xehanort, but whenever she comes in contact with darkness she is the first one to give up, oh and did I mention the possibility that aqua was ready to slaughter lady tremaine and her daughters just cause she sensed darkness in them? Looks like someone blinded by the light just like her master👏

“Reason Number 3”. She clean the boys mess

That’s really a stupid and weak reason, I cannot help but facepalm myself 10 times, can you please tell me when did aqua clean up after her friends? She always visits the worlds last so ofc the timing was perfect for her to save the day, just like how terra was unlucky to always ran into the villains first because most of the time he visits the worlds before ventus and aqua, and mind I ask what major thing did Aqua do to clean after her friends? How about we list them and find out? Shall we? Yes we shall!

1, Castle of dreams.
the boys didn’t do anything for aqua to clean up their mess, she just came in and helped the Disney characters like what her friends did

2. Enchanted dominion
The only one that cleaned up his friend mess was ventus, cleaned up terra’s mess when he saved Aurora’s heart, after that ven didn’t do anything for aqua to clean up after him he just left to the next world

3. Dwarf woodland.
ventus cleaned up after terra when he saved Snow White and took her to a shelter, ofc ventus left a mess behind when he gave the queen the poison apple back, the only thing aqua did was tell the prince of Snow White whereabouts, don’t know if that even counts as cleaning after her ventus cause the prince might have found Snow White eventually when he went to look for her, but anyway this world is the closest thing of her cleaning after Ventus

4. Hollow bastion
Ventus cleaned Aqua’s Mess here,
after the harsh words Aqua gave to terra, it made terra lose his trust in everyone except Master xehanort, that’s when ventus came in (after terra fight with brain) and told him that he still trusts him, which help boosted terra confidence in his friends again, ventus is the one trying to keep all three of them together not Aqua

5. Disney town
Nothing to say here again

6. Olympus
Nothing happened here

7. Deep space
I guess terra freeing jumba can count as a mess so aqua cleaned terra’s mess this time,

8. Neverland
Terra getting tricked by hook was a big mess but he solved it himself this time by saving tinker bell and the lost kids, he didn’t let anyone clean after him this time, same with ven he didn’t leave a mess behind for aqua to leave

9. Keyblade graveyard
All three of them played big part here but ventus preventing the completion of the most powerful weapon the X-Blade, and cause of that he saved his friends, the X-blade aqua and ventus clashed against was incomplete one that’s why they stood a chance, plus ventus aiding aqua from the inside is what gave her the win

So you see it’s ventus who mostly clean after his friends and the one who keeps them together not Aqua

there is just no Good reason that puts her above the other characters other then her being Ahem A strong Female, that’s mostly why she is popular, she has nothing going on for her other then i want to be with my friends, the only time the story focused around her was the sequel a fragmentary passage 2.0, it’s plain and simple Aqua is just an overrated bland character and mediocre at best,

That’s my point of view on her, I might sounded a bit aggressive with this essay but I still don’t hate Aqua she is in the middle for me, A decent or better say Good character, but that’s all.
 

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Blue hair, blue eyes, blue clothing, blue armor, blue wayfinder, blue keyblade, blue glider, Blue station of awakening, Like OKAY Nomura
Ventus: "Hey Aqua, how come everything is blue to you?"
Aqua: "Because Ven... I'm blue aba di aba die and aba di aba die, aba di aba die..."
Ventus: 😵
 

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I won’t open another rant topic about Aqua, this will be the last, because like I said I don’t hate her I just don’t like fans always sucking her off, stop liking a character solely for their gender, what you need to like is the character for who they are and what they represent, I hope many Aqua fanboys sees this even tho I know they won’t accept it 😅
 

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She has the largest role in what's dubbed KH0, so even if she were a male character, she'd probably be pretty popular.
 

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She has the largest role in what's dubbed KH0, so even if she were a male character, she'd probably be pretty popular.
kh0? Don’t know what that is but if You mean 0.2 then yes her role is big but if you meant birth by sleep then no she didn’t have the largest role, she had a big role at the end but doesn’t mean her role was most important one, Terra, Xehanort and Ventus had the largest role in birth by sleep lore cause those 3 their story’s is connected to all the kingdom hearts games, ofc she is important as well but her importance’s is 4th after those 3, also if Aqua was a guy then she will be Riku, she is basically female Riku but less edgy and with less character development, so no she won’t be as popular as she is now, ventus being Roxas lookalike is probably would have overshadowed her if she was A Guy.

Edit: then again Riku had multiple games to get a proper development so I think aqua will be the same when we see more of her, 0.2 kinda made her more relatable so ofc I have faith the more we see her character the better she gets.
 
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Nomura, himself, has referred to BbS as KH0. Thus, 0.2 is aptly named for Aqua's journey in the dark realm because of both the references to her time post-"KH0" and up through the 2.8 HD remaster, mathematically filling the gap to KH3.

Aqua literally has the most screentime of the three. She's the only one coherent at the end, and then her playtime surpasses Ven and Terra with both the Final Episode and Secret Episode. I'm speaking sheer volume.
 

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Nomura, himself, has referred to BbS as KH0. Thus, 0.2 is aptly named for Aqua's journey in the dark realm because of both the references to her time post-"KH0" and up through the 2.8 HD remaster, mathematically filling the gap to KH3.

Aqua literally has the most screentime of the three. She's the only one coherent at the end, and then her playtime surpasses Ven and Terra with both the Final Episode and Secret Episode. I'm speaking sheer volume.
Well you’re not wrong but you’re not right either

They all had equally screen time with Aqua just extra gameplay cause obviously xehanort got his hands on terra and ven and since those two are out of the picture that leaves only aqua as the main character to play as, just like Dream drop distance, both Sora and riku are main characters but Riku takes the main lead role now that Sora is out of the picture

Who is the most important among the three?
Well that depends for example each of them is important in certain aspects, but from what I saw, ventus is mostly like the most important one since his fate is connected to all the kingdom hearts franchise,

Among the three

1. Terra is the most important in the xehanort saga his the core of why every bad thing happened, plus he and ventus faces were the first to appear in kingdom hearts, Roxas and Apprentice Xehanort Kh2

2. Ventus is the most important figure among his trio, his presence is connected to the xehanort Saga and the ancient keyblade war, he will most likely play a role in the New upcoming saga, plus his connection to Sora and Roxas and his the one with the most screen among the three, Aqua was only in bbs and 0.2, while Ventus has been in kh union cross (Age of fairytales) and in birth by sleep, and in kh358, kh2 his heart was inside Roxas, pretty much Roxas in general lol, and had a small role in Kh3D.

3. Aqua is the most important after her friends were out of the picture, it’s not that she is less important then her friends they are equal as main characters, but she was never part of xehanort plan that’s why she is the only one that survived, Aqua had more gameplay then her friends but it doesn’t mean she had the largest role, they all had large roles but the one that had the largest role in xehanort saga like i said before it’s terra,

Aqua is a main Character in birth by sleep
just like her friends but she is the hero of the story cause her friends got captured

Riku alongside Sora is the main character of Dream drop distance but he is the hero of the story cause Sora got captured

Sometimes you don’t need to be the main focus of the story to be the main character,
For exampe

Vaan was the main character of ff12 but the story wasn’t about him

ff6 didn’t have a single main character but had multiple ones, the story was focused on all of them equally but Terra was still considered the main character to represent ff6 in Dissdia

Point is Aqua is the same, she may be the one of the main characters of birth by sleep but doesn’t mean she had the largest role in the story,

the story focused more on
Ventus
Terra
Xehanort
Being first

With

Aqua
Vanitas
Eraqus
Being second

So like I said you’re not right but you’re not wrong either.

Aqua may have the most gameplay and cutscenes in final ep and secret ep (since she is the only one that can Roam freely) but as for who has the most appearance among the three in all of kingdom heart then it’s not her it’s ventus, it was ventus then terra (cause lingering will and apprentice xehanort) but ofc that is until final mix happened giving aqua one more episode, the secret ep and later on 2.0 which what gave Aqua more screen time then terra+lingering will+apprentice xehanort,
Thus those who has the most screen time in order are
1. Ventus
2. Aqua
3. Terra (if we can count xemnas who is Terranort nobody who has terra’s face and memeory’s then terra will be second, if we don’t count that then his third)

Either way ventus is the most important in his trio,

Terra is important his the core of the xehanort saga

Aqua is important in birth by sleep (unlike terra and ven, bbs is where Aqua was truly first introduced)
And important in 2.0 as well, her fate and role are as big and most important as her friends, she is the only one besides Sora who can save terra and ventus she is the key to save them as was stated in kh3

Ventus is the most important in the whole franchise since he is connected to both xehanort saga and the foretellers saga, also his presence in the kingdom hearts franchise is one of the most important and oldest characters (design wise and everything about his character) next to Roxas Sora Riku kairi Namine Ansem Xemnas Ansem the wise, organization 13 and let’s not forget good old kairi grandma.

edit: ops i forgot to add hayner pence and ollete among the old characters lol
 
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I'm not indulging subjective opinions on what's considered more important / relevant right now. That's not what I was talking about.
 
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I'm not going indulging subjective opinions on what's considered more important / relevant right now. That's not what I was talking about.
well the topic was never about her being a main character or that she is the most important one, but more about why she is my least favorite character, when i say my least favorite I don’t mean aqua is my least favorite in the franchise as a whole, she is only my least fav among the main characters, the guardians of light or better say the 3 trios plus Namine.
 

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Aqua’s popularity is the result of the lack of playable females in the games. Had there been more females that had equal importance in the story, her presence in the community would be more tame.
I feel mostly the same. Had Kairi gotten Riku-level treatment in the series beforehand I have a feeling the female popularity list would look different today. Aqua would still be popular but I doubt it would be as in your face as it is now.
 

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I feel mostly the same. Had Kairi gotten Riku-level treatment in the series beforehand I have a feeling the female popularity list would look different today. Aqua would still be popular but I doubt it would be as in your face as it is now.
Well kairi has a large role possibly one of the largest (even larger then aqua Xion and Namine) as a princess of light in kh1, her importance is growing now that she joined the fight, if I had to rank all the KH females with important role then they are

1. Kairi (being a princess of light is one of the most important lore in kingdom hearts)
2. Aqua (she is important to the plot but her story was just rehash of kh1 Sora trying to save her friends and just about friendship)
3. Namine
4. Xion
5. Laraxene (still need to see more of her to know her importance)
 

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Kairi for me is still one of the most important characters in kingdom hearts, her time to shine may have ended in kh1, but after kh3 she is definitely getting the spotlight she deserves! after all she is a light princess or princess of light? Still an important character nevertheless.
 

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Importance is too vague of a word, the context we meant was with the narrative and Nomura. Obviously Kairi is important but her faint presence in the series is an issue. Every character is important to a degree but that doesn't matter if Nomura doesn't use them. I think agency is a better word to describe the issue. The female characters do not get enough of it.
 

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Well not gonna complain as long Kairi gets her moments she deserves to be popular like Aqua, she just needs enough screen time:)
 

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Welp overall the point of this topic is that Aqua is a mediocre character and this huge popularity of her is because fans are being fans like always they overrate and overhype anything they like.

aqua is an ok (mediocre) character imo, but that’s all, I got nothing to say about her anymore.

So Guess That’s all.

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