Everything We Know About Birth By Sleep | Unversed So Far

[Iridium]

Re: Everything We Know About Birth By Sleep | Unbirths So Far

The term "unbirth" shouldn't be taken too seriously; it's a play on words like the other enemies in the game:

Heartless= have hearts but only consumed by darkness
Nobodies= have bodies but since they can't exist in neither light or dark realms are considered incomplete and nonexistent, hence nobody.

Unbirth has a deeper meaning which most likely has to do with sleep considering the title, but that's speculation as well.
But it can never be this: nonexistent =\= unbirth.

Something has to be added to the equation for something to be existent.

 

[Jakes-Keyblade]

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or not
but you kow, time will say
(if I would be asked I would say you are right, but you loose nothing for daydreaming...)

 

[Faris]

Re: Everything We Know About Birth By Sleep | Unbirths So Far

unbirths can be nothing, literally.

 

[Charlie K]

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It seems Ven has a power...At the begining of the TGS '08 BBS trailer when it's the DS, MX and Ven MX is talking about that the DS is infused with darkness(Or so I think..I dunno..Whatever on we go..) so Ven is lying on the ground and MX tells him to "Use his power to defeat the darkness"..

So to put it plain and simple, WTF is Ven's power!?..Hopefully it's not just something to do with the keyblade..

 

[Faris]

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It seems Ven has a power...At the begining of the TGS '08 BBS trailer when it's the DS, MX and Ven MX is talking about that the DS is infused with darkness(Or so I think..I dunno..Whatever on we go..) so Ven is lying on the ground and MX tells him to "Use his power to defeat the darkness"..

So to put it plain and simple, WTF is Ven's power!?..Hopefully it's not just something to do with the keyblade..

ive been thinking about that quote. we know sora/roxas have the power of light. it may just be that.

but i also thought perhaps MX is saying it to draw out mickey.

 

[Jakes-Keyblade]

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I think the power of Ven they talk about has something to do with darkness, because if it isn't I can't understand why MX asks him to use it...

 

[Iridium]

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So to put it plain and simple, WTF is Ven's power!?..Hopefully it's not just something to do with the keyblade..

Um...light naturally.


And Jake, darkness to defeat darkness?
You do see the problem with that don't you?

(Then again I guess Riku vs Xehanort could be an acception)

Also consider the fact that since Ven is related to Roxas in some way or another it's possible to assume that Ven like Roxas has the ability to use the power of light. Assumption non the less but there is a decent amount of evidence to back it up.

unbirths can be nothing, literally.

Something has to exist to be there; unless the whole dream theory is correct but I stand by the natural laws of physics. Matter can't be destroyed only rearranged ,thus, without something, there can only be nothing, and nothing means non existent. And since the Unbirths have physical form you can't say that, otherwise these beings wouldn't have been mentioned to being with.

 

[Audo]

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I don't think Natural law of physics applies to KH.

 

[Iridium]

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I see your point xDDD

But generally speaking some rules apply, as you can tell.
For heartless to exist there needs to be a heart to begin with, and for a heart to exist you need a being (or worlds for that matter) So you need some structure for the unbirths to exist.

You see where I am getting at with this right? Unless I am missing something <_<
I have been quite off lately.

 

[Audo]

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They can be made from anything really.

 

[Faris]

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Something has to exist to be there; unless the whole dream theory is correct but I stand by the natural laws of physics. Matter can't be destroyed only rearranged ,thus, without something, there can only be nothing, and nothing means non existent. And since the Unbirths have physical form you can't say that, otherwise these beings wouldn't have been mentioned to being with.

ooo im sorry i mean can't. thats probably makes more sense

 

[Raz]

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I'm glad Maleficent is returning to her bad-ass roots in this game.
They made her a dope in KHII.
BBS Maleficent looks awesome.
BBS everything looks awesome.

BWAHAHA. I'm so trailer-happy right now.

 

[Iridium]

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I can't wait for high quality BBS footage; might be a long way off but I'm still stoked XD

And I agree, Malef's role was squandered down to a simple cameo in KH2 which saddened me :<
But her dragon form in KH:BBS to the dragon form in KH1 draws questions.

I know it's 10 years time but how did she not release her full power in BBS without Rikunorts intervention? (Unless MX had something to do with it or her full power was simply sealed in some way. One of the apprentices perhaps?). Still having her back makes me smile in glee BBS as a whole is amazing. I'm quivering in excitement >X3

 

[Raz]

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I always figured that she thought she could handle Sora in her human form...
and then got her butt beat. So she then wasn't powerful enough to go all Dragon.
And then Rikunort opened her heart.

Or it'll just be a plothole.

 

[Garth]

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I can't wait for high quality BBS footage; might be a long way off but I'm still stoked XD

Yes, yes.

And I agree, Malef's role was squandered down to a simple cameo in KH2 which saddened me :<
But her dragon form in KH:BBS to the dragon form in KH1 draws questions.

I wonder if only Aqua will fight her; that seems like the most plausible scenario, unless she comes back to life thrice over. But I think it's very appropriate that, if the former is true, it's Aqua who will be supposedly fighting Maleficent.

Catfight to the highest degree. :<

I know it's 10 years time but how did she not release her full power in BBS without Rikunorts intervention? (Unless MX had something to do with it or her full power was simply sealed in some way. One of the apprentices perhaps?). Still having her back makes me smile in glee BBS as a whole is amazing. I'm quivering in excitement >X3

Perhaps she could still go to Dragon-form in KHI if she wanted to, but she wouldn't be as powerful (or rather, would have the same power she had in BBS, which obviously wouldn't be enough to beat Sora); hence, Rikunort (appropriately titled :3 ) unleashed her full potential. And yes, I'm squeeing just thinking about BBS. :<

 

[Faris]

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Perhaps she could still go to Dragon-form in KHI if she wanted to, but she wouldn't be as powerful (or rather, would have the same power she had in BBS, which obviously wouldn't be enough to beat Sora); hence, Rikunort (appropriately titled :3 ) unleashed her full potential. And yes, I'm squeeing just thinking about BBS. :<

im thinking perhaps a forgotten power

 

[Garth]

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im thinking perhaps a forgotten power

I can imagine. Being pwned in the past, followed by the present time can certainly put a nick in one's abilities. :<

Poor Maleficent.

 

[Superschlock]

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Meh, she deserves it for having weird horns and green skin

 

[Sigma77]

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LOL.

Well, one would think getting killed might dampen one's powers, neh? Assuming she gets killed and comes back in BbS.

 

[Superschlock]

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LOL.

Well, one would think getting killed might dampen one's powers, neh? Assuming she gets killed and comes back in BbS.

Dont you mean she dies in BBS amd comes back in KH1 and comes back AGIAN in KH2?