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But what if the blue and silver haired members is Zexion and Vexen...
Think of it, when a new member is reveled in a trailer there is always a
magazine scan on him before the trailer was shown...
(Luxord was first on scans, Demyx was first on scans, Xaladin was first on scans)
But not these two...If there is not already old scans forf them in CoM...
And if i´m wrong, the elements dont fit together...
Used elements:
Fire
Earth
Ice
Thunder
Nature
Water
Wind
And I think that Zexion have Darkness...
And I think that EM have light (Beam swords...)
And why wuld SE put Zexion whitout elements,
when it´s comfired that every unknown has a element,
if he´s not to return in KH2...

That´s a posibilyty to...
Read it again...
 

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Then you don't know how hard it is to make a sword now do you.

saying that it is basic is very ignorant. The soul eater is basically a sword except it can take in darkness, wow.


but so far we seen like different kind of weapons that r mix like the new guys weapon and vexen wit the sheild and spike yet we seen no sowrd
 

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..That wasn't the Square Enix trailer..that's the Jump Fiesta 2005, this is the Square Enix trailer

As the poem about darkness plays, the background is largely consisted of sounds suggesting darkness, as well as a BGM that encourages this feeling.
Then the BGM switches to Hikari.
As the words 2002 March appear, the trailer for KH appears for a few seconds.
As the words 2002 December appear, the trailer for KH Final Mix appears for a few seconds.
As the words 2004 November appear, the trailer for KH CoM appears for a few seconds.

The music stops and a new theme begins to play. (Not Passion)
DiZ and, supposedly, the Enigmatic Man, speak alone in a room (some sort of hi-tech room)
DiZ: When Namine' took over the memories, it seems that she might have gotten a hold over Sora.
EM: Namine... what a strange child...
DiZ: Namine was born in a special way. She can interfere with the hearts and memories of Sora and those who are connected with him.
EM: Who's Nobody is Namine?(?What Nobody does Namine' control?)
DiZ: I wouldn't mind finding out but tell me one thing: what is your real name?

In a back alley of Twilight Town, in front of a poster advertising a battle tournament.
Golden Haired Kid: So the decisive battle is up to you and me! Whoever wins, has to split the prize between all of us!
GHK and BHK give themselves five.
Black Haired Kid: Sounds good to me.
Girl: Good luck.

Twilight Town plain.
Seifer: The thing that was stolen was- evidience of you defeat. What did it burn? (He's making fun of him for losing against Axel)
As he speaks, he walks out with Raijin and Fujin.
The BHK glares at him.

In the place of the Awakening, with BHK and the gigantic Nobody.
Namine (voice): You're... you're not meant to exist, really.

In Twilight Town where Axel and BHK are confronting each other.
DiZ appears.
Axel: So it was you.
He throws an emblazed Chakram (Axel's Weapons) at him but it bounces off an invisible sheild DiZ created.
DiZ: This man's words are meaningless.

In the place where Sora is sleeping in Castle Oblivion, BHK appears where DiZ is standing.
DiZ: Welcome, one chosen by the Keyblade...
BHK: Are you talking to me or to Sora?
DiZ: I am seeking the one who roams the World of Light, the one who can defeat the Thirteenth Order.
After BHK attacks DiZ the screen fades black.
And you hear DiZ say "Can you feel Sora?" (notice it is not "Can you feel, Sora?" because that would imply that BHK is Sora.)

In front of the altar of light in Disney Castle.
Minnie: This is the source of Light. But look. These thorns are created by a dark power.
As she is saying this, we see gigantic thorns cover the room's walls. The light on the altar is weak too.

In an unknown place (Hollow Bastion?) Sword Heartless and Bot Heartless appear.

In Atlantica, Ariel is nursing a prince who has fallen over.

In Oogie's Manor in Halloween Town:
Oogie: Thanks for reviving me!

In front of the palace in the Land of the Dragons:
Shan Yu stabs the emperor.
Shan Yu: It's over.

Near the snowy mountain in the Land of the Dragons, a cloaked figure appears holding the Souleater.

In front of the palace walls in Agrabah, Sora and Jasmine recognize each other.

We see Agrabah and Jafar in his genie form.
Jafar: I'll finish you all now!
He then throws a portion of the palace to Aladdin and Sora.

On the deck of the Black Pearl.
Goofy: Jack might be able to use the Keyblade too.
Donald: Why?
Goofy: Well, I get the feeling that Sora and Jack are alike.
Jack & Sora: No way!! (Same expression)

In the world of Steamboat Willie (everything is in black and white and drawn in an old fashioned way)
Sora is on the deck of the ship as it moves along the river.
In some room, Sora and Mickey shake hands. Then Mickey leaves.
In another place (maybe the shore):
Pete: You don't happen to have seen a bad guy have you?
Donald, Goofy and Sora immediately point at him. Pete winces.

Beast's room in his Castle:
Belle: But this Castle is full of roses already!
Beast: You just don't understand anything!!! (he is furious)
Sora comes between Belle and Beast.
Sora: Beast! Stop! You're just taking out your anger on her. Belle didn't steal the rose.

In the dance hall of the beast castle.
A hooded Order member believed to be Xaldin summons Dragoon Nobodies.
Sora: The Thirteenth Order!
Beast: What are they?
Sora: The Thirteenth Order. There's something called Nobodies, they are created when somebody with a strong heart becomes a Heartless, and those who control them are the Thirteenth Order.

In Christmas Town's Santa Clause's room:
Sora: I'm Sora!
Santa Clause: If I remember correctly Sora said 7 years ago that Santa didn't exist.
Sora looks disappointed.

In a valley, close to where the Heartless were surrounding Sora, Heartless surround Cloud and Leon:
Leon: Think we can do it? Against that?
Cloud: Sure, but even if one more comes at us we may find are selves in a painful situation.
Leon: Then we'll have to kill each one that appears!

In a place that resembles Hollow Bastion:
Sora: Where are you? Show yourself!
Enigmatic Man: The Keyblade... A truly wonderful power. Then again it depends on who the wielder is.
Sora: What?!
As the Enigmatic Man raises his hands, four other cloaked figures appear (It is believed to be the same group that appears in some of the earlier trailers)

In the world of the secret movies:
A cloaked figure appears in front of Sora and Co. and summons Nobody around them. The Nobody hold katana and drops fall from them.
Sora grips his Keyblade and runs, at the same time, the hooded figure does the same and prepares both his hands ready to strike. Just as they are about to collide, the screen blacks out.

Deep Dive world:
Riku (blindfolded with his arms held up in the air): This is the True World... if that is the case we might just let it fade into the Darkness.
Sora: Riku!



[THE DETAILS BELOW ARE NOT IN CHRONOLOGICAL ORDER]


In Castle Oblivion
BHK: What ARE you Namine?
Namine: I am a witch who can control the memories of Sora and those who are close to him.
BHK: A witch?

In a bamboo forest in the Land of the Dragons.
Sora: Mushu! It's been a while!
Mushu: Sora! Donald! Goofy!
Mulan: You know each other?
Mushu: A while ago we defeated bad guys together. I must have been a year...

On the deck of the Black Pearl taken over by Barbossa.
Jack has his hands bound and Barbossa also has some of his henchmen with him.
Jack: Barbossa! Give me my Black Pearl back!
Barbossa: The Black Pearl isn't yours anymore.

In the PotC world, an old, white haired member of the Order was seen.
Ironically, he was also seen jumping around with youthful enthusiasm.

In a room on board the Back Pearl.
While looking at Elizabeth's medallion:
Will: So it was me after all.

Near the entrance of Beast's Castle.
As Xaldin is making his six lances appear.
Xaldin: Once we obtain Kingdom Hearts we shall become complete beings!

In the Underworld (uncertain):
Demyx appears holding his sitar in front of Sora, Donald and Goofy.

Fight scenes with Sora in his Wisdom Form.

Co-op Moves

Aladdin: Trickster
Beast: Final Roar
Auron: Shooting Star
Jack Sparrow: Death Bringer


Wait..yeah it was the deep dive world, my bad, so that is definatly a trap.
 

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Xaldin said:
..That wasn't the Square Enix trailer..that's the Jump Fiesta 2005, this is the Square Enix trailer

As the poem about darkness plays, the background is largely consisted of sounds suggesting darkness, as well as a BGM that encourages this feeling.
Then the BGM switches to Hikari.
As the words 2002 March appear, the trailer for KH appears for a few seconds.
As the words 2002 December appear, the trailer for KH Final Mix appears for a few seconds.
As the words 2004 November appear, the trailer for KH CoM appears for a few seconds.

The music stops and a new theme begins to play. (Not Passion)
DiZ and, supposedly, the Enigmatic Man, speak alone in a room (some sort of hi-tech room)
DiZ: When Namine' took over the memories, it seems that she might have gotten a hold over Sora.
EM: Namine... what a strange child...
DiZ: Namine was born in a special way. She can interfere with the hearts and memories of Sora and those who are connected with him.
EM: Who's Nobody is Namine?(?What Nobody does Namine' control?)
DiZ: I wouldn't mind finding out but tell me one thing: what is your real name?

In a back alley of Twilight Town, in front of a poster advertising a battle tournament.
Golden Haired Kid: So the decisive battle is up to you and me! Whoever wins, has to split the prize between all of us!
GHK and BHK give themselves five.
Black Haired Kid: Sounds good to me.
Girl: Good luck.

Twilight Town plain.
Seifer: The thing that was stolen was- evidience of you defeat. What did it burn? (He's making fun of him for losing against Axel)
As he speaks, he walks out with Raijin and Fujin.
The BHK glares at him.

In the place of the Awakening, with BHK and the gigantic Nobody.
Namine (voice): You're... you're not meant to exist, really.

In Twilight Town where Axel and BHK are confronting each other.
DiZ appears.
Axel: So it was you.
He throws an emblazed Chakram (Axel's Weapons) at him but it bounces off an invisible sheild DiZ created.
DiZ: This man's words are meaningless.

In the place where Sora is sleeping in Castle Oblivion, BHK appears where DiZ is standing.
DiZ: Welcome, one chosen by the Keyblade...
BHK: Are you talking to me or to Sora?
DiZ: I am seeking the one who roams the World of Light, the one who can defeat the Thirteenth Order.
After BHK attacks DiZ the screen fades black.
And you hear DiZ say "Can you feel Sora?" (notice it is not "Can you feel, Sora?" because that would imply that BHK is Sora.)

In front of the altar of light in Disney Castle.
Minnie: This is the source of Light. But look. These thorns are created by a dark power.
As she is saying this, we see gigantic thorns cover the room's walls. The light on the altar is weak too.

In an unknown place (Hollow Bastion?) Sword Heartless and Bot Heartless appear.

In Atlantica, Ariel is nursing a prince who has fallen over.

In Oogie's Manor in Halloween Town:
Oogie: Thanks for reviving me!

In front of the palace in the Land of the Dragons:
Shan Yu stabs the emperor.
Shan Yu: It's over.

Near the snowy mountain in the Land of the Dragons, a cloaked figure appears holding the Souleater.

In front of the palace walls in Agrabah, Sora and Jasmine recognize each other.

We see Agrabah and Jafar in his genie form.
Jafar: I'll finish you all now!
He then throws a portion of the palace to Aladdin and Sora.

On the deck of the Black Pearl.
Goofy: Jack might be able to use the Keyblade too.
Donald: Why?
Goofy: Well, I get the feeling that Sora and Jack are alike.
Jack & Sora: No way!! (Same expression)

In the world of Steamboat Willie (everything is in black and white and drawn in an old fashioned way)
Sora is on the deck of the ship as it moves along the river.
In some room, Sora and Mickey shake hands. Then Mickey leaves.
In another place (maybe the shore):
Pete: You don't happen to have seen a bad guy have you?
Donald, Goofy and Sora immediately point at him. Pete winces.

Beast's room in his Castle:
Belle: But this Castle is full of roses already!
Beast: You just don't understand anything!!! (he is furious)
Sora comes between Belle and Beast.
Sora: Beast! Stop! You're just taking out your anger on her. Belle didn't steal the rose.

In the dance hall of the beast castle.
A hooded Order member believed to be Xaldin summons Dragoon Nobodies.
Sora: The Thirteenth Order!
Beast: What are they?
Sora: The Thirteenth Order. There's something called Nobodies, they are created when somebody with a strong heart becomes a Heartless, and those who control them are the Thirteenth Order.

In Christmas Town's Santa Clause's room:
Sora: I'm Sora!
Santa Clause: If I remember correctly Sora said 7 years ago that Santa didn't exist.
Sora looks disappointed.

In a valley, close to where the Heartless were surrounding Sora, Heartless surround Cloud and Leon:
Leon: Think we can do it? Against that?
Cloud: Sure, but even if one more comes at us we may find are selves in a painful situation.
Leon: Then we'll have to kill each one that appears!

In a place that resembles Hollow Bastion:
Sora: Where are you? Show yourself!
Enigmatic Man: The Keyblade... A truly wonderful power. Then again it depends on who the wielder is.
Sora: What?!
As the Enigmatic Man raises his hands, four other cloaked figures appear (It is believed to be the same group that appears in some of the earlier trailers)

In the world of the secret movies:
A cloaked figure appears in front of Sora and Co. and summons Nobody around them. The Nobody hold katana and drops fall from them.
Sora grips his Keyblade and runs, at the same time, the hooded figure does the same and prepares both his hands ready to strike. Just as they are about to collide, the screen blacks out.

Deep Dive world:
Riku (blindfolded with his arms held up in the air): This is the True World... if that is the case we might just let it fade into the Darkness.
Sora: Riku!



[THE DETAILS BELOW ARE NOT IN CHRONOLOGICAL ORDER]


In Castle Oblivion
BHK: What ARE you Namine?
Namine: I am a witch who can control the memories of Sora and those who are close to him.
BHK: A witch?

In a bamboo forest in the Land of the Dragons.
Sora: Mushu! It's been a while!
Mushu: Sora! Donald! Goofy!
Mulan: You know each other?
Mushu: A while ago we defeated bad guys together. I must have been a year...

On the deck of the Black Pearl taken over by Barbossa.
Jack has his hands bound and Barbossa also has some of his henchmen with him.
Jack: Barbossa! Give me my Black Pearl back!
Barbossa: The Black Pearl isn't yours anymore.

In the PotC world, an old, white haired member of the Order was seen.
Ironically, he was also seen jumping around with youthful enthusiasm.

In a room on board the Back Pearl.
While looking at Elizabeth's medallion:
Will: So it was me after all.

Near the entrance of Beast's Castle.
As Xaldin is making his six lances appear.
Xaldin: Once we obtain Kingdom Hearts we shall become complete beings!

In the Underworld (uncertain):
Demyx appears holding his sitar in front of Sora, Donald and Goofy.

Fight scenes with Sora in his Wisdom Form.

Co-op Moves

Aladdin: Trickster
Beast: Final Roar
Auron: Shooting Star
Jack Sparrow: Death Bringer


Wait..yeah it was the deep dive world, my bad, so that is definatly a trap.


ooo because i forgot which one was it since theres alott of tralier thanx:D
 

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i think that zexion and vexen are back to life but didn't get new numbers so:
Enigmatic Man
Axel
Larxene
Vexen
Marluxia
Zexion
Lexaseus
DiZ
Xaldin
Demyx
Luxord
Xigbal
uknown female member
 

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vinnieminnie said:
i think that zexion and vexen are back to life but didn't get new numbers so:
Enigmatic Man
Axel
Larxene
Vexen
Marluxia
Zexion
Lexaseus
DiZ
Xaldin
Demyx
Luxord
Xigbal
uknown female member


Uhh, I don't think Vexen's back buddy, he was freaking killed by Axel last I checked.
 

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Actually,

1. The Enigmatic Man
2.
3. Xaldin
4. Vexen
5. Lexaeus
6. Zexion
7.
8. Axel
9. Demyx
10. Luxord
11. Marluxia
12. Larxene
13.

We have three unranked members, Xigbal, Aldax (long haired) and Raxiel (zexion-ish).

Here’s the ranks i think:

2. Xigbal (he seems commanding and battle hardened, #2 would be fitting)

7. Aldax (just an educated guess, i also think the long hair made most people mistake him for a girl, like what happened with Vexen)

1 or 13. Raxiel (he sounds like the enigmatic man in the trailer, so this could make him the EM. He also seemigly knows how to get into the world of darkness judging by sora’s quote. however, #13 would be very important in the XIII order, so 1 or 13, only time will tell.)
 

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Cloudy_Card said:
Actually,

1. The Enigmatic Man
2.
3. Xaldin
4. Vexen
5. Lexaeus
6. Zexion
7.
8. Axel
9. Demyx
10. Luxord
11. Marluxia
12. Larxene
13.

We have three unranked members, Xigbal, Aldax (long haired) and Raxiel (zexion-ish).

Here’s the ranks i think:

2. Xigbal (he seems commanding and battle hardened, #2 would be fitting)

7. Aldax (just an educated guess, i also think the long hair made most people mistake him for a girl, like what happened with Vexen)

1 or 13. Raxiel (he sounds like the enigmatic man in the trailer, so this could make him the EM. He also seemigly knows how to get into the world of darkness judging by sora’s quote. however, #13 would be very important in the XIII order, so 1 or 13, only time will tell.)
And there is tha female member to...
Where did you get those names of them?
But it seems a little wierd that SE wuld put copyes of old members,
only whit other hairculors...That is not like them...
 
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A significant part of the storyline takes place in the mulan world, the appearance of riku would be very significant, but then again....
 

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You would think the name "Thirteenth Order" would mean there are thirteen members... I agree that people probably mistook the Vexen-look-alike (Aldax/Raxiel) for a female unknown. So here are the members:

Enigmatic Man, Axel, Larxene, Vexen, Marluxia, Zexion, Lexaeus, Xaldin, Demix, Luxord, Aldax, Raxiel, and Xigbal.

Count 'em up. There's Thirteen. DiZ, Riku, and Mickey aren't actual members so that rules them out. There can't be any more than 13 members...it's called the Thirteenth Order for christ's sake! The only member's face we haven't seen is Enigmatic Man. And since he seems to play an important role, it'd make since to keep his identity hidden.
 

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Owaz said:
You would think the name "Thirteenth Order" would mean there are thirteen members... I agree that people probably mistook the Vexen-look-alike (Aldax/Raxiel) for a female unknown. So here are the members:

Enigmatic Man, Axel, Larxene, Vexen, Marluxia, Zexion, Lexaeus, Xaldin, Demix, Luxord, Aldax, Raxiel, and Xigbal.

Count 'em up. There's Thirteen. DiZ, Riku, and Mickey aren't actual members so that rules them out. There can't be any more than 13 members...it's called the Thirteenth Order for christ's sake! The only member's face we haven't seen is Enigmatic Man. And since he seems to play an important role, it'd make since to keep his identity hidden.
You can't actually say they mistook the female member for the long-blue haired one without proof. We have no proof that that's what happened so we can only assume that, but that doesn't make it a fact.

Too bad DiZ was, or is, in the order.
- It says that Axel and DiZ will be in the game. (obviously) And he says it was kind of blurry but he believes that both of them are apart of the Thirteenth Order, This makes DiZ either the Superior or Number one. Or at least a Former Organization member.

So even if he was or is in the order he still keeps his place in it (aka his number rank).

Riku and Mickey don't count, that's true. They haven't been confirmed or talked about their role in the thirteenith order at all.

So all in all that makes 15 members.
Enigmatic Man
Axel
Larxene
Vexen
Marluxia
Zexion
Lexaseus
DiZ
Xaldin
Demyx
Luxord
*Female member
*Blue Haired Member
*Silver Haired Member
Xigbal
 

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TheMuffinMan said:
Well, I was talking about it on the chat, and I beleive that possibly there is no such thing as the female Order Member....

Not exactly no such thing, but I beleive that in the S-E Party trailor, some people mistook the Long-Haired Order Member for a female....

If this is true, then this free's up some space for EM to fit into there....

If not this, then either the Long-Haired Order Member, or the Zexion-look-alike is the EM....

And if neither of this is true, then you are correct, adn we may be looking at more than 13 Members....
I agree with those 100%. Those are all the possibilities I looked at too.

And don't forget, people: The names "Aldax" and "Raxiel" were never confirmed.
 
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