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helios

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Two questions for all the people out there Kh veterans and noobs 1.what do you
think the X in each persons name means and 2.Who are all the people in it now so
we can finally put together how many org memebers are left to reveal.I hope i can have u guys help on this id appreciate it.:D
 

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the x could mean they're all connected...maybe
marluxia
larxene
demyx
lexaues
vexen
axel
ruxodo
zexion
And one to be revealed.....Amix
EM
diz
xaldin
That makes 12 but loads of them were killed so....
and then theres riku, mickey and the DWU and the GEU
which makes sixteen....... but thats not right
 

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Demyx
Xaldin
Roxudo [Old man unknown]
The female
EM
GEU
That's all that's left.
 

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What is Geu
Axel/fire
Demyx/water
Larxene/Thunder
Ruxudo/Time
Zexion/Shapeshifting
Vexen/Ice
Marluxia/??????
Lexaus/earth
Enigmatic man/gravity
Xaldin/wind
Who is amix i notice that they all have an element think what elements are needed to finish the org

 

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*Sigh* I'm really getting tired of posting this >_>

All this information was compilled from KHU, besides the little things I added here and there >_>

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Who are The Organization?

The Organization is a group of 13 members (and possibly more) who seek to discover the secrets of the heart. In addition, the group contains members with them each having their own unique role or power.

Who are its members?

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(In the order that they joined)

#1 - "The Superior" aka DiZ

Current Status: At the Crossroads nearby Castle Oblivion


In KH: CoM, Vexen describes that DiZ "Is Ansem and he is not Ansem" but what does this mean? one can only presume that DiZ is the shell (body) of Ansem that he once casted off many years ago (as described in Ansem Report #12). Therefore he is a an existence neither of darkness nor of light, which is named in Ansem Report #12 a "NEO" (Non-Existant-One)

Moving on, if this is to be the case DiZ was the very first NEO which maybe lead him to creating the Organization, as we do know there is other NEO's in the group.

It is unknown what he wants to achieve in Kingdom Hearts 2, but he is advised in the game to not let "them" (Sora & Co?) know of the Organizations plans. But it is questionable whether or not the Organizations plans are Good or Evil due to the fact that not once did DiZ seem to act in a evil way in KH: CoM but instead guided and actually helped Riku. In addition, due to the amount of corruption elsewhere in the Organization, it could be speculated that the rest of the Organization don't have any real desires to use Sora or prevent him from opening the door to the light.



#2 - Unknown



#3 - Xaldin

Current Status: Fabled Countryside


Has the power of wind. His weapon's are three lance's or staffs. He looks a bit like a monkey if you ask me.



#4 Vexen

Current Status: Deceased


Vexen was a researcher of the heart and in KH:CoM created a replica of Riku using data gathered from fighting him. Later in the game, at Twilight Town he taunted Sora and informed Sora of the other side of his heart. For this, Marluxia ordered Axel to kill Vexen. If Vexen was not killed, it could of ruined Marluxia's plan to use Sora as a puppet so that he could gain control of the Organization.



#5 Lexaeus

Current Status: Deceased


Lexaeus was known as the brute force of the Organization due to his huge size and strength. He wielded the element of "Earth" and used it against Riku in battle. According to the "D Report", similar to Marluxia, Lexaeus (with others) had the intention to use Riku as a puppet. Riku eventully killed him in battle.



#6 Zexion

Current Status: Deceased


Zexion is known for not wanting to get into combat. But after the deaths of Vexen and Lexaues, he was forced into action to make a last attempt to gain control of Riku. He used his dark powers to pretend to be Sora, but at this point Riku mastered the darkness and seen through the guise. After this point, he encountered Axel who now had the Riku replica by his side, Axel ordered the Riku replica to kill Zexion.



#7 Unknown



#8 Axel

Current Status: Alive but his current whereabouts are unknown


Axel is a double agent whose real intentions are very unclear. He said himself to Sora that they both have something in common, which will be explained upon in Kingdom Hearts 2. Throughout KH:CoM he gained the trust of all the members but later became a traitor to them by attempting to kill several members of group, including Marluxia. But is Axel really working under DiZ's instructions to rid the Organization of its corrupted members or is he working on his own?

It is known that in Kingdom Hearts 2, Axel will attempt to find Sora and in his path, come across the other side of Sora's heart and fight him.



#9 Demix

Current status: Olympus


Is known to talk for long periods of time. He controls the element of water, and his wepon is a sitar, which he conrtols the water by playing it, adn he enjoys rocking out on his Sitar.



#10 Unknown



#11 Marluxia

Current Status: Deceased


The superior entrusted Castle Oblivion to Marluxia, despite his low rank in the Organization. But he had no intentions of doing what he was told and instead teamed up with Larxene to attempt to take control of the Organization.

He did this by trying to gain control of Sora and use him as a puppet. By using Namine, he ordered her to get rid of Sora's memories of Kairi and replace them with Namine. By doing this, Sora would become more & more obsessed of trying to save Namine, thus Marluxia could then use Sora's fear to make him do whatever he wants him to do. Ultimately with the betrail of Axel, and the strength of Sora, Marluxia's life came to an end.



#12 Larxene

Current Status: Deceased


Larxene wielded the element of "Thunder" and fought several times in battle against Sora. She teamed up with Marluxia and later tried to also get Axel to help gain control of the Organization. In addition, she also taunted Sora to forget his memories of Kairi and become more & more obsessed with Namine. In the end, she was killed by Sora in battle.



#13 Unknown

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As you can see, #2, #7, # 10 and #13 are the only Organization members we do not know of by name, or what they look like, but we know of them...

Enigmatic Man // "The Unknown"
Current Whereabouts: Unknown, last seen battling with Sora in Hollow Bastion
This member of the organization seems to play a vital role. There is many signs pointing to that he is the head member of the Organization and holds the rank of #2, Sora first came across this character in Hollow Bastion in which he tested Sora's strength in an amazing battle..

Quotes from KH: Final Mix:

"Ah... It seems you are special too"

"You look like him." (Looking at Sora)

"Which means, you are not complete."

"I am... a mere shell"

After playing KH: CoM and learning about the other side of Sora's heart, we can presume that this is what the Enigmatic man is reffering to in the quotes above. In addition, in this KH2 screenshot he is the member in the centre, which makes him seem as if he is of an importance.

Due to his assumed importance, this leads me to beleive that he is #2.
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So all there is left is #7 #10 and #13...

We know who two of these must be. As seen in an update at KHU, they have discovered two Organization members.

-There is a Woman Organization member in Hollow Bastion
-There is an Old man Organization member in the POTC World and he has a mustache!

Since there are only three slots left in the Organiztion, these two people must be them must be two of them.

The Old man's Name is Ruxodo, and he is a balding old man with white hair, and a white mustache. We don't know his Number yet...

We do not know what the woman looks like, but we know of her existance, and due to that, we now know of every Organization member except 1...
 

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Thank you muffinman thats what i wanted to know i have been so far behind but you might wanna update that Ruxudo the old man with time power isnt on there hes in the pirates of the carribean world.
 

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He's at the very bottom. He can't be on the original list yet seeing as I don't know what his Rank is, and please give me a link as to where you heard that his power is over "Time"
 

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Its somewhere in that Ruxudo thread somone said hes time.
 

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They were guessing what his power would be, it's not cvonfirmed, but it's an educated guess...
 

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It was supposedly said that the X in all the Organization members' names represent, or mean, "heresy", or in other words, going against the normal standards of society or morality.

So yeah this was a quote from wikipedia, an article on the XIII Order. I'm Pretty sure that I've heard this somewhere else too... but I don't know.
 

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In algebra, x is generally the unknown quantity, u should be able to get the rest....

Wow very nice call on that one, I wouldn't have thought of that because of the fact that Math=Not too cool... But I do give you props on that one Chaywa, I'm going with that.
 

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OKAY PLEASE SOMEONE TELL ME WHO AMIX IS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

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I think that Amix is just a guess to the females name.

Anyway, here you have nearly evrything abute the 13 order:

XIII Order
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The XIII Order is a group of thirteen Non-Existent Ones featured in the Playstation 2 Role-Playing Game Kingdom Hearts II. They were originally introduced as The Organization in the game Kingdom Hearts: Chain of Memories. They seek to discover the mysteries that lie within the Heart and use the power of Kingdom Hearts to become human once more. Each Order member controls their own element and their own breed of Nobodies. Judging by evidence presented in the game Chain of Memories, the members are numbered by the order in which they joined the group.
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Known Members and Their Rankings

1. Unknown (Possibly DiZ or The Enigmatic Man)
2. Unknown (Possibly DiZ or The Enigmatic Man)
3. Xaldin - At No3, Xaldin is a high ranking member of the Organization. He has kidnapped Belle and forces the Beast to fight Sora. He wields 6 double-edged lances (Naginata) and controls the element of wind.
4. Vexen - One of the older members of the Organization, Vexen is a scientist and, using data he collects, creates a replica of Riku. While he agrees to Marluxia's demands, in truth, Vexen intends to betray him. He wields a shield and controls the element of ice.
5. Lexaeus - Along with Vexen and Zexion, Lexaeus conspired against Marluxia. He intended to use Riku as Marluxia had intended to use Sora. Lexaeus wields a tomahawk and controls the element of earth.
6. Zexion - Zexion is almost as skilled a manipulator as Axel, though as we discover, not enough. He is content to watch Lexaeus and Vexen do all the work, but finds he must come from the shadows when his allies fail. He is the only member of the Organization observed thus far with the ability to detect the presense, absence, or death of individuals by their scent. His element is unknown but may be illusion or of a psychic power.
7. Unknown - Either Ruxodo or an unknown woman.
8. Axel - Axel is a manipulator by nature, new to the Organization. He works for Marluxia, yet only seeks to benefit himself. He wields Fire Wheels and controls the element of fire. He mentions he has some connection to Sora.
9. Demyx - Not much about Demyx is known, besides the fact that his weapon resembles a sitar. He controls the element of water.
10. Unknown - Either Ruxodo or an unknown woman.
11. Marluxia - The lord of Castle Oblivion and a relative newcomer to the Organization. He intends to usurp the order by capturing and manipulating Sora, using Naminé to do so. He wields a pink scythe and controls the element of nature.
12. Larxene - Also a newcomer to the Organization, Larxene conspires with Marluxia to capture and manipulate Sora for their own purposes. She has an abrasive personality and caustic tongue, but is on best terms with Axel. She wields several small throwing knives (kunai) and controls the element of lightning.
13. Unknown
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Members with Unknown Ranks
The Enigmatic Man (middle) with four unidentified Order members.
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The Enigmatic Man (middle) with four unidentified Order members.

* Enigmatic Man - A mysterious Unknown whom Sora fights in the Final Mix version of the original Kingdom Hearts. According to Nomura, he is the man standing in the center of a group of five members of the Order in a scene from a trailer released back in 2003, meaning he is probably very high ranked, possibly #1 or #2. Other than this, the only thing known about him is that he can manifest some sort of energy as a weapon (One of the ways he uses it is by making red "swords" with it, which some fans half-mockingly referred to it as lightsabers.) and move through solid objects such as humans. It is likely that he will be one of the main villains of Kingdom Hearts II.

* Ruxodo: An elderly man first seen at the Pirates of the Caribbean World. He has a mustache.

* ?????: A woman first enountered in Hollow Bastion.

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Possible Members

* Riku - At the end of Kingdom Hearts: Reverse/Rebirth, Riku began to walk the "road to dawn", using both Light and Darkness and is wearing the XIII Order's uniform, but it is unknown if he joined the XIII Order itself. Also, during the "Another Side, Another Story" teaser trailer, two people wearing Order coats are seen fighting Heartless. One of them has long, silver hair and a blindfold, and has been confirmed to be Riku. If Riku joined the Order after the events of Chain of Memories, it's possible that he could be number 13, since the Order had only 12 members at the time, thus being called "The Organization/Order" instead of "XIII Order". Recently it's been confirmed that an Order member with a Soul Eater appears in Mulan's world, indicating that Riku has indeed joined the Order.
* Mickey Mouse - King Mickey was seen with Riku wearing robes almost similar to the XIII Order's at the end of Kingdom Hearts: Reverse/Rebirth as well. According to DiZ, he and the King have met before. Therefore, due Mickey's confusing role in Kingdom Hearts and Kingdom Hearts: Chain of Memories, it cannot be ruled out that he was an earlier member.
* BHK - The unnamed boy who appears in the Kingdom Hearts II trailers is a rumored possibility because he uses the Oathkeeper and Oblivion Keyblades, the same Keyblades being wielded by an unknown member of the Organization in the Deep Dive trailer at the end of Final Mix. It has since been confirmed that the two people seen fighting in the Another Side, Another Story and Deep Dive teasers are Riku and BHK, meaning that the person wielding the two Keyblades is BHK.
* DiZ - An enigma who, according to sources who viewed the 8 minute 30 second trailer at the July 30-31st Square Enix Party 2005, seeks out BHK as a means to eliminate the XIII Order. He has been shown in conversation with the Enigmatic Man as well.

They are pretty good on what they ar doing on Wikipedia!
Enjoy!
 
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