Um. Who beat him?

[State]

Case overview:
Xehanort and the other apprentices let their hearts submit to darkness to become Heartless and unintentionally to become Nobodies.

C A S E C L O S E D​

 

[Avens]

=====Day 119: Hearts and Emotion=====

Watching that foolish beast flail about only depends my disdain for humans and
their incessant need to be pinned down by feelings.

We became nobodies precisely to avoid the shackles of emotion. It was only
later that we realized the scale of that loss: that some things simply cannot
be done without a heart.

Nonetheless, I see nary a pleasant thing about it.

Report Author: Xaldin

 

[riku_kicks_butt]

To become a heartless you have ti give in to the darkness. Or be defeated. Which I could swear I established that already

 

[Memory Master]

To become a heartless you have ti give in to the darkness. Or be defeated. Which I could swear I established that already

No, being defeated in KH does not turn you into a heartless.

Only a heart being consumed, or given into darkness or by a heartless taking a heart is a heartless created.

I swear to God, how many times has Sora defeated Riku or Leon or some disney villians and guess what they didn't become heartless. Being defeated does not = heartless.

 

[riku_kicks_butt]

^ Ok. Then Ill say being defeated by a heartless. But I thought that was obvious

 

[Ophan]

To become a heartless you have ti give in to the darkness. Or be defeated. Which I could swear I established that already

defeated by what? wth are you talking about. If it hasn't been said enough already, being defeated has nothing to do with becoming a heartless. Being defeated is simply being beaten in battle considering what context you are using when you say defeated (which still has nothing to do with becoming heartless). Quit acting stupid, seriously.

 

[Memory Master]

^ Ok. Then Ill say being defeated by a heartless. But I thought that was obvious

I'm going to make this clear forever to understand. Heartless are only created under the following circumstances:

1. One willingly sacrifices their heart to darkness. (Examples of this: Xehanort, Braig, Dilan, Even, Eleaus, and Ienzo and Sora)

2. One's heart is consumed by their own darkness unknowingly (Examples of this: Scar, and the test subjects Xehanort used in his heartless experiments)

3. One's heart is taken by another heartless. (Examples of this: The man in Traverse Town and many residents of Radiant Gardens during Maleficent's heartless invasion 9 years before KH1)

 

[riku_kicks_butt]

defeated by what? wth are you talking about. If it hasn't been said enough already, being defeated has nothing to do with becoming a heartless. Being defeated is simply being beaten in battle considering what context you are using when you say defeated (which still has nothing to do with becoming heartless). Quit acting stupid, seriously.

Ok. being defeated in battle is not the only definition of defeated. and yes. you can become a heartless if your defeated. By a heartless. I didnt honestly think that part of the sentence would be necessary. Ppl should have enough brains to get it

 

[riku_kicks_butt]

I'm going to make this clear forever to understand. Heartless are only created under the following circumstances:

1. One willingly sacrifices their heart to darkness. (Examples of this: Xehanort, Braig, Dilan, Even, Eleaus, and Ienzo and Sora)

2. One's heart is consumed by their own darkness unknowingly (Examples of this: Scar, and the test subjects Xehanort used in his heartless experiments)

3. One's heart is taken by another heartless. (Examples of this: The man in Traverse Town and many residents of Radiant Gardens during Maleficent's heartless invasion 9 years before KH1)

Yes yes. Thats what ive been trying to say. Either they give up there heart or there defeated by a heartless. I consider number 2 willingly too because your tampering with darkness and doing it willingly. Weather you wanted to be a heartless or not

 

[Memory Master]

Yes yes. Thats what ive been trying to say. Either they give up there heart or there defeated by a heartless. I consider number 2 willingly too because your tampering with darkness and doing it willingly. Weather you wanted to be a heartless or not

Okay then your defination of defeated is wrong.

Defeated is not the same as taken. A heartless can defeate someone without stealing their heart. (Example: Ven was defeated by Neo Shadows in BBS, yet they didn't take his heart)

You should have used the proper word of "Taken" or "Stolen" by a heartless. Defeated is not the same thing.

 

[riku_kicks_butt]

They cant steal it without defeatin them. Ppl dont gotta so picky

 

[Sign]

They cant steal it without defeatin them. Ppl dont gotta so picky

Sure they can. That random generic in Traverse Town got his heart stolen, and he wasn't defeated.

 

[Ophan]

i wouldn't really continue this thread. This person is trolling

 

[Oracle Spockanort]

But trolls are so fun to play with.

 

[Sign]

Trolls are fun to play with, but I'm getting bored with this guy.

 

[Oracle Spockanort]

Because he isn't a good troll. Or he doesn't know how to really troll.

 

[Zero Sora]

Or maybe he's not really a troll, just an idiot who's first langauge isn't english, or he's 11 years old.

 

[riku_kicks_butt]

They way I see it. Having your heart took from you unwillingly is a loss or a defeat. Even if they dont attack you.

 

[Orion]

You're thinking of things in terms of a battle with using the word 'defeat'. It's confusing and inaccurate, so it's probably beneficial that you stop using it like you currently do.

 

[riku_kicks_butt]

Well somebody has to have some real problems if they think words only have one meaning.