Re: Roxas, Sora's reincarnate
haha u hafta die to be reincarnated. You lose.
haha u hafta die to be reincarnated. You lose.
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Re: Roxas, Sora's reincarnate
he has a point^
he has a point^
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Re: Roxas, Sora's reincarnate
see? riku's heart did leave his body, nomura interview
see? riku's heart did leave his body, nomura interview
Re: Roxas, Sora's reincarnate- MASSIVE SPOILER
To the author of this thread- Considering you're new, I'll spare you.
Please keep this in mind: KH2 hasn't been released in North America yet. People want to play the game without getting spoiled. I would greatly appreciate it if you do NOT put spoilers in the topic title.
Also, there's an edit button for a reason. If you have something to say after you've posted, edit your post unless someone has replied to you already. The forum rules can be found in the New Members Area, you can see "No Double Posting" in there.
To the author of this thread- Considering you're new, I'll spare you.
Please keep this in mind: KH2 hasn't been released in North America yet. People want to play the game without getting spoiled. I would greatly appreciate it if you do NOT put spoilers in the topic title.
Also, there's an edit button for a reason. If you have something to say after you've posted, edit your post unless someone has replied to you already. The forum rules can be found in the New Members Area, you can see "No Double Posting" in there.
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Re: Roxas, Sora's reincarnate- MASSIVE SPOILER
Leave it to Nomura to prove me wrong.
Leave it to Nomura to prove me wrong.
Re: Roxas, Sora's reincarnate- MASSIVE SPOILER
if soras dead than there will be no roxas. the orgs lost there hearts so they don't have reincarnation. pleaze don't die sora. never!
if soras dead than there will be no roxas. the orgs lost there hearts so they don't have reincarnation. pleaze don't die sora. never!
Re: Roxas, Sora's reincarnate- MASSIVE SPOILER
roxas was born when sora became a heartless. therefore, roxas is sora's nobody. meaning they are ONE. because sora didnt stay too long as a heartless, roxas does not have sora's memories. sora's memory restoration is delayed because roxas is not aware of his true self, therefore sora is not complete.
diz created a programmed twilight town, turned roxas into data and put him inside that artificial twilight town. in there, namine fed roxas some of sora's memories thats why he had that weird flashbacks of sora
roxas was born when sora became a heartless. therefore, roxas is sora's nobody. meaning they are ONE. because sora didnt stay too long as a heartless, roxas does not have sora's memories. sora's memory restoration is delayed because roxas is not aware of his true self, therefore sora is not complete.
diz created a programmed twilight town, turned roxas into data and put him inside that artificial twilight town. in there, namine fed roxas some of sora's memories thats why he had that weird flashbacks of sora
Re: Roxas, Sora's reincarnate- MASSIVE SPOILER
About Nobodies, Heartless and Riku
Heartless: thay are creatures who take hearts to feed on the darkness within them.
When an individual loses his Heart, all that's left is the body, this body fades away and is reborn into a Heartless. Where does the Heart go? It is either destroyed and ends up in End of The world, or is preserved within Kingdom Hearts, notably "The Realm of Darkness)
Nobodies: These beings are of twilight, as Heartless are beings of Darkness. When the Heart is seperated from the body, not only is a Heartless formed, but also a Nobody. The nobody resides in The World that never Was and is different from the Heart (which explains why Roxas still exists even when Sora got his Heart back.) While in The World thet Never Was, they possess the names of their true selves.
All members of Org XIII are Nobodies, but their names are based on the names of their true selves with an X to signify betrayal (i.e. Roxas=Sora with an X)
Namine is both Sora and Kairi's Nobody, but her name doesn't have an X nor is based on Kairi's (and especially not Sora's) own name because she isn't a member of Org XIII, she is forced to work for them.
Riku- He was the true wielder of the Keyblade, but fell into DARKNESS. The Kingdom Key, being a keyblade of Light, couldn't be harnessed by Riku then, so it went to Sora, whose Heart still possessed Light.
Riku lost his body to Ansem (who is actually Xehanort, he believes he is Ansem as he lost his memories) And his Heart was corrupted by Darkness, However, King Mickey helped him to fight it using Hope, thus he became a keywielder of Twilight.
^XIIIth Knight, If Xehanort was Riku's incarnate, then his body and heart would be destroyed and his soul would go into a new body and heart. However Xehanort still had a heart. he needed a body, and he chose Riku. He also had a nobody as well, Xenmas, the Superior of org XIII.
^soraandkairi4eva, because a nobody possesses a different physical form, like Roxas' physical form is different form taht of Sora, it is possible Sora can die and Roxas will remain. Org XIII's true selves are possibly gone, having been turn into Heartless most likely, as their creation would mean the seperation of their true selves' Heart and Body .
About Nobodies, Heartless and Riku
Heartless: thay are creatures who take hearts to feed on the darkness within them.
When an individual loses his Heart, all that's left is the body, this body fades away and is reborn into a Heartless. Where does the Heart go? It is either destroyed and ends up in End of The world, or is preserved within Kingdom Hearts, notably "The Realm of Darkness)
Nobodies: These beings are of twilight, as Heartless are beings of Darkness. When the Heart is seperated from the body, not only is a Heartless formed, but also a Nobody. The nobody resides in The World that never Was and is different from the Heart (which explains why Roxas still exists even when Sora got his Heart back.) While in The World thet Never Was, they possess the names of their true selves.
All members of Org XIII are Nobodies, but their names are based on the names of their true selves with an X to signify betrayal (i.e. Roxas=Sora with an X)
Namine is both Sora and Kairi's Nobody, but her name doesn't have an X nor is based on Kairi's (and especially not Sora's) own name because she isn't a member of Org XIII, she is forced to work for them.
Riku- He was the true wielder of the Keyblade, but fell into DARKNESS. The Kingdom Key, being a keyblade of Light, couldn't be harnessed by Riku then, so it went to Sora, whose Heart still possessed Light.
Riku lost his body to Ansem (who is actually Xehanort, he believes he is Ansem as he lost his memories) And his Heart was corrupted by Darkness, However, King Mickey helped him to fight it using Hope, thus he became a keywielder of Twilight.
^XIIIth Knight, If Xehanort was Riku's incarnate, then his body and heart would be destroyed and his soul would go into a new body and heart. However Xehanort still had a heart. he needed a body, and he chose Riku. He also had a nobody as well, Xenmas, the Superior of org XIII.
^soraandkairi4eva, because a nobody possesses a different physical form, like Roxas' physical form is different form taht of Sora, it is possible Sora can die and Roxas will remain. Org XIII's true selves are possibly gone, having been turn into Heartless most likely, as their creation would mean the seperation of their true selves' Heart and Body .
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Re: Roxas, Sora's reincarnate- MASSIVE SPOILER
shells dont look like their original counterparts because the heart counterparts age while the nobodies dont because the soul is forever and never ages.............thats why roxas looks a year younger than sora and the same for namine.............and thats why xehanort looks way older than xemnas................and that means most of the org. is really older than they look..........
i agree with everything except the last thingAngel's Prayer said:
shells dont look like their original counterparts because the heart counterparts age while the nobodies dont because the soul is forever and never ages.............thats why roxas looks a year younger than sora and the same for namine.............and thats why xehanort looks way older than xemnas................and that means most of the org. is really older than they look..........
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Re: Roxas, Sora's reincarnate- MASSIVE SPOILER
but wait, doesnt the body of the shell age though?
but wait, doesnt the body of the shell age though?
Re: Roxas, Sora's reincarnate- MASSIVE SPOILER
naw, because the body only ages due to the heart without the heart the body is eternal like the soulviolent_anger said:
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Re: Roxas, Sora's reincarnate- MASSIVE SPOILER
o i get it, the heart tells the body to age
o i get it, the heart tells the body to age
Re: Roxas, Sora's reincarnate- MASSIVE SPOILER
exactly because when the heart leaves the soul takes the heart's place but the soul is eternal and thats one thing it cannot.....................the body is just a shell and is powered by whatever is powering............the heart is stronger than the soulviolent_anger said:
Re: Roxas, Sora's reincarnate- MASSIVE SPOILER
1. Special Nobodies (like the Org Members) retain all memories of there past. Hence why they know what there names are. Roxas and Namine were the ONLY Nobodies to forget their memories. They forgot them because Sora went back to being "human" before his memories could be transfered and stuck in Roxas, Sora took most of them back from Roxas basically.
2. A Nobody is just a shell and a soul, it's not a reincarnation or anything, no one is "reborn" per say. It's just the same person.
3. When a person with a strong heart is killed by a Heartless they become two things. A Nobody and a Heartless. The Nobody was Roxas and the Heartless was the creature we played as.
1. Special Nobodies (like the Org Members) retain all memories of there past. Hence why they know what there names are. Roxas and Namine were the ONLY Nobodies to forget their memories. They forgot them because Sora went back to being "human" before his memories could be transfered and stuck in Roxas, Sora took most of them back from Roxas basically.
2. A Nobody is just a shell and a soul, it's not a reincarnation or anything, no one is "reborn" per say. It's just the same person.
3. When a person with a strong heart is killed by a Heartless they become two things. A Nobody and a Heartless. The Nobody was Roxas and the Heartless was the creature we played as.
Re: Roxas, Sora's reincarnate- MASSIVE SPOILER
Soar ain't a Heartless, although he does become one, sort of, in kh1, and reverts to human form, and his anti form in kh2.
Soar ain't a Heartless, although he does become one, sort of, in kh1, and reverts to human form, and his anti form in kh2.
Re: Roxas, Sora's reincarnate- MASSIVE SPOILER
actually he is............he is the same thing as xehanortAngel's Prayer said:
Who changed this topic title back to a spoiler when I took it out?
Last warning.
Last warning.
How can he be Heartless when he has a heart?! That's so....
hes the same thing as xehanort is, wether you consider xehanort or sora a heartless depends on you, after he reforms with roxas he becomes complete, some consider xehnaort just a heart but in reality hes a heartless just like soraAngel's Prayer said:
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hers how it goes.
1) when sora became a heartless, he became one willingly, we are not sure what that means, but his real heart was buried under his darkness, making hima heartless
2) the light of kairi was able to dig through that darkness and bring back sora
correct me if im wrong, RHD or myinnerfreed
1) when sora became a heartless, he became one willingly, we are not sure what that means, but his real heart was buried under his darkness, making hima heartless
2) the light of kairi was able to dig through that darkness and bring back sora
correct me if im wrong, RHD or myinnerfreed
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