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[FONT=Arial, sans-serif]This isn't much of a theory, but more of an expansion on the common “Sora had Ven's heart inside him, which went to Roxas” theory, but with thoughts on Xion's purpose in the game and exploring Roxas' dual wielding. This isn't anything groundbreaking, but it's what makes sense in my head. So, let's flesh things out a bit, shall we?[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, sans-serif]I'm not going to get into guessing the how or why Sora could have ended up with Ven's heart inside him. But let's just say that's what happened.[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, sans-serif]The foundation of this theory is that Ven's heart was completely dormant for those 10 years within Sora. In a state much like that of sleep. It wasn't functioning as a normal heart should, so that could have been why no nobody was created when it left Sora's body (unlike how Kairi's heart did resulting in Naminé). The dormant state of Ven's heart would also explain why Sora would have been totally unaware and not bothered by its presence for the majority of his life. And most likely we wouldn't have seen it being set free from Sora when he became a heartless because it was immediately born into Roxas upon his birth over in Twilight Town. [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, sans-serif]Anyway, Sora becomes a heartless, and the heart goes to Roxas for... whatever reason. What then?[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, sans-serif]Well, the idea is that it was born into Roxas while still dormant, just like it was within Sora. Furthermore, the 358/2 Days Ultimania BbS Speculation section emphasized the scene on Day 27, early in the game, where Xemnas is standing over a slumbering Roxas muttering, “So, you're still sleeping.” And I don't think Xemnas was simply pointing out the obvious there.[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, sans-serif]At the beginning of Days Roxas acts lifelessly and barely even speaks to the point where it even weirded out the other nobodies. I'm thinking this is because of the state of his heart at the time and the total lack of memories highly exacerbated his condition. A key ingredient in a heart is memories, after all. Slowly the heart (in a body with no other heart to override it) was awakened in Roxas through his bonds with Axel and Xion and the memories he creates. This progression is pretty clear in the game. (If you haven't played the game or can't understand it, Roxas' diary entries emphasizes this growth well 0kingdom_hearts: 358/2 Days: Roxas' Diary) Through the course of the year, Roxas perks up and shows more and more emotion as the game progresses. Ven's heart gradually awakens.[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, sans-serif]Now that we've covered the basics, let's get into the fun bits and make some connections with Xion and dual wielding.[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, sans-serif]I think for those 357 days Roxas had a fake keyblade like Xion's. That sounds odd, but hear me out. Roxas and Xion could both use keyblades because they were technically products of Sora, but they didn't have legitimate ones like Sora's, Mickey's, or Riku's, because they only got them automatically based on their connections to him, and not through themselves. Good replicas, but not the same thing. (Which I guess could explain why Roxas used gears and not key chains in the game...) [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, sans-serif]Anyway, after nearly a year of developing that heart, teetering on the brink of awakening, Xion's demise is what gave Ven's heart that final push. The straw that broke the camel's back, so to speak. Ven's heart fully awoke within him and Roxas was then able to use the REAL keyblade his newly awakened heart granted him and the FAKEone he had been wielding the entire game at the same time. Fake + Real = Dual wielding. Picture related.[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, sans-serif]That's why Riku was shocked to see Roxas with a real keyblade when he fought him, and on the other hand wasn't surprised when he met Xion with her fake one. We would have never known Roxas had a fake because Riku would've been the only one to call him out on it, which he didn't because when Riku finally met Roxas, Roxas did have a real one then.[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, sans-serif]Roxas never absorbed Xion, that's for sure, and I don't think he inherited anything from her either. It was just that Xion served as the catalyst that caused the awakening of his heart, and therefore the keyblade from within himself, which fits with what Nomura said.[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, sans-serif](Also, Xehanort's memories were briefly mentioned, and obviously the Ven factor would fit that bill.)[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, sans-serif]Okay then, what about Roxas in KH2? [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, sans-serif]That's fairly simple. Now, after Roxas merges with Sora, his heart goes into a state of near sleep, overridden once again by Sora's heart, but still awake enough to give Sora the capacity to dual wield, and to a degree retain consciousness. One heart, one keyblade. Two hearts, two keyblades. Pretty common dual wielding theory, that's what I tend to agree with.[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, sans-serif](As for Riku, I would say the same the same applies to him with his and Xehanort's heart, which could be the reason he could dual wield with that keyblade he gave Kairi, but that's off topic.)[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, sans-serif]And so Roxas stays in that sort of hibernated state for the majority of KH2. That is until Roxas witnesses Axel's death. That experience was traumatic enough to allow him to awaken his heart from inside Sora to have that fight with him in TWTNW. So, during the fight between the two we have that additional KH2FM scene with Roxas and Axel communicating telepathically.(Video: YouTube - *VOICES* KH2 Final Mix: Remembrance (English Subs) ) Yeah, that scene.
(For those of you who are confused as to when this happens, watch this video to clear it up: YouTube - KH2 Final Mix - Walkthrough (119) TWTNW (Pt. 1) - Roxas)[/FONT]
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[FONT=Arial, sans-serif]I always thought that in this scene Roxas meant he was going back to the way he was before, like before he starting fighting Sora. But now I'm thinking that possibly means he's going to gradually go back to his original, fully dormant state from inside Sora, as his heart was before Roxas was even born. Axel doesn't say anything like, “Nope, maybe you're merging with Sora” or “Nope, maybe you're becoming Sora”, he says, “going to sleep”, and there's a very clear distinction there. You would think that if he were truly only Sora's nobody he would eventually just become fully become Sora.[/FONT] Not that Axel's word is the ultimate proof of this, but yeah.
[FONT=Arial, sans-serif]Maybe.[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, sans-serif]In conclusion...[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, sans-serif]I think the whole “Roxas absorbed Xion and took her keyblade” is a misconception since the absorption thing is flat out wrong, and Nomura clearly states that he doesn't physically inherit her keyblade. A heart (Ven's would make the most sense) awakening within Roxas simply seems to be the most logical explanation for him conjuring up a new keyblade. In my opinion, that is.[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, sans-serif]In the words of Nomura, “As for Xion, she holds the key to the story, and there is a very specific reason she appears in this tale.”[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, sans-serif]Upon first completing the game I was quick to judge Xion and deem her as an unnecessary addition. But if you think about it this way, the role Xion played was understandable and actually necessary because there would have needed to have been a very traumatic event to have taken place to push Roxas over the edge like that. Which is something that Axel couldn't provide yet because the story required him to live to KH2 (where he would then serve that same purpose), nor could any of the other established characters without some kind of new inclusion. Hence Xion.[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, sans-serif]Roxas left the organization pretty much like everyone thought all along: he wanted to know about himself, his identity, about this Sora kid that was dominating his life, and why he could wield the keyblade. At the very end of the game Roxas was practically begging Axel to tell him, but Axel refused to. Roxas immediately left TWTNW after their fight. Roxas felt lonely, and betrayed, like he had no one to trust.[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, sans-serif]Xion wasn't the reason he left the organization. Xion's purpose in the game wasn't to pass down her keyblade to Roxas.[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, sans-serif]No, I think her “very specific” purpose in this story was to awaken the heart within Roxas. [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, sans-serif]Which ties in to BbB nicely.[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, sans-serif]That's... my guess anyway.[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, sans-serif]Gee, that turned out longer than expected. I think I could rattle on, but that's enough for now. [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, sans-serif]I'M DONE.[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, sans-serif]I'm not going to get into guessing the how or why Sora could have ended up with Ven's heart inside him. But let's just say that's what happened.[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, sans-serif]The foundation of this theory is that Ven's heart was completely dormant for those 10 years within Sora. In a state much like that of sleep. It wasn't functioning as a normal heart should, so that could have been why no nobody was created when it left Sora's body (unlike how Kairi's heart did resulting in Naminé). The dormant state of Ven's heart would also explain why Sora would have been totally unaware and not bothered by its presence for the majority of his life. And most likely we wouldn't have seen it being set free from Sora when he became a heartless because it was immediately born into Roxas upon his birth over in Twilight Town. [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, sans-serif]Anyway, Sora becomes a heartless, and the heart goes to Roxas for... whatever reason. What then?[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, sans-serif]Well, the idea is that it was born into Roxas while still dormant, just like it was within Sora. Furthermore, the 358/2 Days Ultimania BbS Speculation section emphasized the scene on Day 27, early in the game, where Xemnas is standing over a slumbering Roxas muttering, “So, you're still sleeping.” And I don't think Xemnas was simply pointing out the obvious there.[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, sans-serif]At the beginning of Days Roxas acts lifelessly and barely even speaks to the point where it even weirded out the other nobodies. I'm thinking this is because of the state of his heart at the time and the total lack of memories highly exacerbated his condition. A key ingredient in a heart is memories, after all. Slowly the heart (in a body with no other heart to override it) was awakened in Roxas through his bonds with Axel and Xion and the memories he creates. This progression is pretty clear in the game. (If you haven't played the game or can't understand it, Roxas' diary entries emphasizes this growth well 0kingdom_hearts: 358/2 Days: Roxas' Diary) Through the course of the year, Roxas perks up and shows more and more emotion as the game progresses. Ven's heart gradually awakens.[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, sans-serif]Now that we've covered the basics, let's get into the fun bits and make some connections with Xion and dual wielding.[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, sans-serif]I think for those 357 days Roxas had a fake keyblade like Xion's. That sounds odd, but hear me out. Roxas and Xion could both use keyblades because they were technically products of Sora, but they didn't have legitimate ones like Sora's, Mickey's, or Riku's, because they only got them automatically based on their connections to him, and not through themselves. Good replicas, but not the same thing. (Which I guess could explain why Roxas used gears and not key chains in the game...) [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, sans-serif]Anyway, after nearly a year of developing that heart, teetering on the brink of awakening, Xion's demise is what gave Ven's heart that final push. The straw that broke the camel's back, so to speak. Ven's heart fully awoke within him and Roxas was then able to use the REAL keyblade his newly awakened heart granted him and the FAKEone he had been wielding the entire game at the same time. Fake + Real = Dual wielding. Picture related.[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, sans-serif]That's why Riku was shocked to see Roxas with a real keyblade when he fought him, and on the other hand wasn't surprised when he met Xion with her fake one. We would have never known Roxas had a fake because Riku would've been the only one to call him out on it, which he didn't because when Riku finally met Roxas, Roxas did have a real one then.[/FONT]
KHInsider – 358/2 Days Ultimania said:
[FONT=Arial, sans-serif]Roxas never absorbed Xion, that's for sure, and I don't think he inherited anything from her either. It was just that Xion served as the catalyst that caused the awakening of his heart, and therefore the keyblade from within himself, which fits with what Nomura said.[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, sans-serif](Also, Xehanort's memories were briefly mentioned, and obviously the Ven factor would fit that bill.)[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, sans-serif]Okay then, what about Roxas in KH2? [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, sans-serif]That's fairly simple. Now, after Roxas merges with Sora, his heart goes into a state of near sleep, overridden once again by Sora's heart, but still awake enough to give Sora the capacity to dual wield, and to a degree retain consciousness. One heart, one keyblade. Two hearts, two keyblades. Pretty common dual wielding theory, that's what I tend to agree with.[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, sans-serif](As for Riku, I would say the same the same applies to him with his and Xehanort's heart, which could be the reason he could dual wield with that keyblade he gave Kairi, but that's off topic.)[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, sans-serif]And so Roxas stays in that sort of hibernated state for the majority of KH2. That is until Roxas witnesses Axel's death. That experience was traumatic enough to allow him to awaken his heart from inside Sora to have that fight with him in TWTNW. So, during the fight between the two we have that additional KH2FM scene with Roxas and Axel communicating telepathically.(Video: YouTube - *VOICES* KH2 Final Mix: Remembrance (English Subs) ) Yeah, that scene.
(For those of you who are confused as to when this happens, watch this video to clear it up: YouTube - KH2 Final Mix - Walkthrough (119) TWTNW (Pt. 1) - Roxas)[/FONT]
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[FONT=Arial, sans-serif]HMM. Rings some bells. (Not to mention that's the scene where Axel asks him if he has a heart. And for Axel to suggest that is something, given that throughout Days Axel constantly reminds Roxas that he's a nobody, and that nobodies don't have hearts or emotions.)[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, sans-serif]I always thought that in this scene Roxas meant he was going back to the way he was before, like before he starting fighting Sora. But now I'm thinking that possibly means he's going to gradually go back to his original, fully dormant state from inside Sora, as his heart was before Roxas was even born. Axel doesn't say anything like, “Nope, maybe you're merging with Sora” or “Nope, maybe you're becoming Sora”, he says, “going to sleep”, and there's a very clear distinction there. You would think that if he were truly only Sora's nobody he would eventually just become fully become Sora.[/FONT] Not that Axel's word is the ultimate proof of this, but yeah.
[FONT=Arial, sans-serif]Maybe.[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, sans-serif]In conclusion...[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, sans-serif]I think the whole “Roxas absorbed Xion and took her keyblade” is a misconception since the absorption thing is flat out wrong, and Nomura clearly states that he doesn't physically inherit her keyblade. A heart (Ven's would make the most sense) awakening within Roxas simply seems to be the most logical explanation for him conjuring up a new keyblade. In my opinion, that is.[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, sans-serif]In the words of Nomura, “As for Xion, she holds the key to the story, and there is a very specific reason she appears in this tale.”[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, sans-serif]Upon first completing the game I was quick to judge Xion and deem her as an unnecessary addition. But if you think about it this way, the role Xion played was understandable and actually necessary because there would have needed to have been a very traumatic event to have taken place to push Roxas over the edge like that. Which is something that Axel couldn't provide yet because the story required him to live to KH2 (where he would then serve that same purpose), nor could any of the other established characters without some kind of new inclusion. Hence Xion.[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, sans-serif]Roxas left the organization pretty much like everyone thought all along: he wanted to know about himself, his identity, about this Sora kid that was dominating his life, and why he could wield the keyblade. At the very end of the game Roxas was practically begging Axel to tell him, but Axel refused to. Roxas immediately left TWTNW after their fight. Roxas felt lonely, and betrayed, like he had no one to trust.[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, sans-serif]Xion wasn't the reason he left the organization. Xion's purpose in the game wasn't to pass down her keyblade to Roxas.[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, sans-serif]No, I think her “very specific” purpose in this story was to awaken the heart within Roxas. [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, sans-serif]Which ties in to BbB nicely.[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, sans-serif]That's... my guess anyway.[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, sans-serif]Gee, that turned out longer than expected. I think I could rattle on, but that's enough for now. [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, sans-serif]I'M DONE.[/FONT]
