I was happy until you have to have ONE guilted Illustrated medal to get the Sora & Riku & Kairi medal.

Then I became furious when I saw to get that one fully guilted you need to have all three illustrated medals guilted.

While their last system was broken as well, I preferred the chances of just getting an Illustrated medal ONCE to qualify for Terra & Ventus & Aqua.

Square Enix, one step forward, 358/2 steps back.

Here's hoping I can finally get some decent if not really good medals! Best of luck to you guys and Happy Halloween!

Welp 30k gone.

Is this what it feels to be poor..it's horrible.

Same. Was seriously considering doing a few draws. Then I saw this, so I'm not sure if I should do a draw now :/ It's a great medal, and even a few shots at TAV, but I want them to know too that I'm not okay with this development. So I think I'm going to skip this one as well. We seriously need Brooms for this kind of bs <.<

Tbh, I've given up the hope to get the Brooms by now. It's very clear to me that they aren't thinking about including them.

Also. "Defeat all enemies within one turn".
diddly you, too, Square Enix. diddly you for not giving me MY SPEED GEM. I have all the other ones. Why is speed so hard?!

Don't forget that they also misled players by saying explicitly that the Jack&Sally medal reward(s) for the past week's High Score Challenge had the same ability as in JP, let the entire week go on, with players scrambling to get into a reward tier they wanted for such a good medal, even to the point of spending money that they otherwise wouldn't have, all to end up giving players a Jack&Sally with a nerfed ability, SP cost, and strength stat in the end.

Wow, I didn't even know about this. That's another way to fuck up, I guess.
Gee, somebody should make a list.

Ahahah I cant even guilt a less rare medal, let alone an illustrated one. Nice job, Square Enix. Fucking nice.

Woah, you are giving a very one-sided view of the story. They admitted they made a mistake. And they said they are looking for a way to compensate us. And yes, it's in the end not the medal we were promised, and yes the compensation will probably suck. But they admitted they made a mistake, that's progress. And don't forget that this medal STILL is a great medal. It's basically a improved version of the SDG Medal. And may I remind you the SDG Medal is a premium medal only available in the draws. This one however was available for everyone who got top 5k. Wich is a feat possible for most intermediate players. No need to be a whale for that. It has a better multiplier compared to the SDG Medal. A higher attack and still, once again, a better Special Effect. The only con it has is that it costs 3 gauges instead of SDG's 2. And so what it effect is now 1 turn instead of 2? Most of us are trying to 1-turn all enemies anyway. Wether it's for the gauge orbs or for mission completion. Hell, you still are gonna activate that medal the next turn "just" because it has a high multiplier, high stats and many hits. So yes, we struggled for that medal, some more then others. But removing this turn doesn't make this Medal obsolete all of a sudden. It's still a great medal. And it's still worth all our troubles.

3000J pls

And yes, it's in the end not the medal we were promised, and yes the compensation will probably suck. But they admitted they made a mistake, that's progress.

Nooot really imo...

And don't forget that this medal STILL is a great medal.

But this doesn't change the fact that we didn't get the same as JP.

I have exactly 3k jewels, but it's not like I'm getting Kairi so might as well just save them for a better deal. Anti-Sora would be nice too but with my luck I'd just get repliku. Also yeeah not too happy about the SRK medal thing, guilted premium to get it? Eh.

I hope they have speed/power gems coming up soon too. I'd also like to know how ridiculous deck you need to have even a shot at beating 4 lvl500 enemies in one turn...

^Yeah, I just don't know how they could possibly think anybody could pull that off in one turn. Make it at least 5! Or change the objection! I don't care what you do, just do something else!

Stop, just stop.. I'm not sure why you're defending a huge mistake that prompted tons of players to splurge to get this medal. First off it does matter that it's one turn and not two. Are you one turning everything in HSC? How about one turning past round 200 in Coliseum? What if you activated the special on the next turn and the effect stacked? Two times attack buff and defense debuff is pretty effective. So yes, two turns does matter.

and what's with the 500 lvl heartless? we need brooms to 1 turn that

Though we will most probably never get them

I'm so fucking furious about this update! I fucking hate SENA even more now.

Firstly, they pull this bullshit with the Jack & Sally medal. What the fuck? If you make that kind of mistake in advertising the medal's abilities, just fucking own up to it and stick with it assholes! That's completely unfair to nerf it at the last second! Fuck this!

Second, the conditions to get the SRK medal are completely ridiculous! Only the people who are spending thousands of dollars every month on this game have those medals guilted! It's a completely unreasonable expectation! Or maybe I should've just focused all my broom medals on guilting my Sora, Riku, and Kairi medals... OH WAIT I can't because these assholes at SENA refuse to give us the fucking broom medals!

Don't worry, appleboy, you're not the only one. I am as furious as you

They want more money, but continuing like this will disgust all NA/Europe players.
All they do is killing their game.

I don't think so... people are still falling for it.

What do you guys think is the best skill to put on Illustrated Kairi? Obviously it's not a damage dealing medal so I figure the only viable options are Second Chance, No Cost, or a defense boost II.

Huh, I'd go with either Second Chance or Defense Boost II.

What do those mystical broom medals do that everyone keeps mentioning here and on twitter? At any rate I agree with you all and the thought of dropping actual cash on this game makes my skin crawl when it's clear they don't take the game system seriously. Oh and fuck that new Halloween event with lvl 500 enemies.

It makes guilting Medals so much easier, because it adds one dot/orb. And SENA is obviously refusing to implement them in the game.

Sigh... they finally have illustrated Kairi right after I had to spend all those jewels to get the ghost costume last carnival. -_- Whatevs, only going to spend whatever jewels I accumulate during this time period, not going out of my way again to spend over 100 dollars for this. Even if it's Kairi... can't stand this cash grab mentality...

I use ability 1 on my Jap account, it's really good. I wouldn't suggest no cost because it's not 100% chance of activation (unless they changed it in NA), so either ability 1 or second chance or def boost imho.



if you have 5 Broom medals you can fuse them with a Fantasia Mickey medal to make a Mickey&Brooms medal that gives one ability dot/reroll special attack bonus on any 6* medal. So if you have a very rare, premium medal that you can't get multiple copies of, you can use the Mickey&Brooms to fill the dots, it's a crucial medals for F2P players (of course it's useful to others too)

I still hold onto a glimmer of hope that we'll get the broom medals eventually because of 1 small detail. The 5* evolve medal is titled "Fantasia Mickey Ver. A" in the game. If there were no plans whatsoever to eventually give us the broom medals then they probably wouldn't have bothered to specify "Ver. A" in the name of that medal.

bah. all i wanted was a belle medal and i pulled a bunch and still dont have one D:

Clearly this last halloween update is for whales only. A Sadistic bout against not one, but 4 lv500 enemies in one battle, 2 of which are a different element than advertised, and a draw which saddens me more than angers me because this is what SENA has become. I'm more pissed at the spooks thing, I bet even the damn whales can't one-turn that mission. There's just no way. Most damage I dealt on one was 10k with my 2 dot Marluxia, after using KHII Kairi, Mowgli and Pals, and HT Sora, who didn't deal much damage and the last one of those three is guilted! And this is the kind of BS we have to look forward to farther down the line? Having the Brooms is going to be a dang requirement, but SENA runs on greed evidently. It infuriating and depressing at the same time.

Yes, it's clearly meant to be a challenge for players who have sunk a lot of money into the game. Not every quest has to be aimed at every player?

Oh, please.

Must everything become contentious, fam?

I know, it's a groundbreaking concept.

I just don't get you guys sometimes, lol. Like the quest is billed as being an extreme challenge. It has level 500 monsters. Everything about it says "This is for advanced players" but then you guys complain that a non-advanced player can't clear it. You were never meant to? It was meant to be a challenge FOR whales. And it's just meant as a silly one-off quest that only lasts for like four days. It's clearly not aimed at the entire player base.

Regardless of the opinions on whales, I'm sure they also want to occasionally have an event that is challenging for them.

Oh, so it's okay that only advanced players have a chance to get the Speed Gem? Very well then. -_-

It's a magic gem, not a speed gem? And gems are not like, a finite resource. Since they've been introduced there have been a multitude of ways to get them. Yes, average players won't be able to get this particular one. But there will be more opportunities in the future.

I have the worst luck with these pulls. 9th pull and still no Illustrated Kairi. WELP! Guess I'll wait til Monday for the discounted Jewel pack for my guaranteed. I mean, you would have to spend thousands of dollars to get that SRK medal. Jesus Lort.

Yeah, that campaign is pretty ridiculous. It'd be one thing if we had Brooms, but without them, it's a ridiculous goal lol.

Wait, did I read that wrong? They want use to GUILT 3 Illustrated super rare medals (or at least 1) in order to get 1 good medal? If so, diddly that and diddly them too...

Yeeeahh there's no way around it, this campaign is incontrovertibly stupid. No perk, attack, weapon, character, or ANYTHING in a video game is worth thousands of dollars.

So I've come to the conclusion that Square Enix just hates North America...at least, that's how it's feeling.
Not gonna give in to this draw, anybody else with me?

I have to agree that not every quest is meant for every player. The problem is that even those who spend money on the game have way less of a chance to be able to participate in such quests than players of the Japanese version, and that's what grinds my gears personally.

Pokemon Sun and Moon is coming in a couple of weeks. Buh bye SENA. I'll be delightfully occupied.

Yeah, gonna have to agree with that...

We can hope. Tho I'm totally hoping they will change it's Special Attack to 2 turns again and give all of us 3 additional copies. Ah, how one can dream...

Nooot really imo...

Guess it's a good thing it doesn't depend on opinion then <.<
Remember that time with the new Challenges? How they first said it would be immediatly released, but that didn't happen? Instead they sneakily ninja'd their release date to January. They didn't even admit their mistake. But hey, today they did, and guess what? If we compare that to each other it's progress. So that's a fact. Wether your satisfied with this progress or not is entirely up to you.

So we didn't. Why are we still suprised about this and raging over it?

Well... 5 turns wouldn't really work. They have a insane high defense (even without their buffs) so you need to use Special Attacks to even put a dent into them. You can probably go at full power for 1 turn, maybe 2. So sadly 5 wouldn't really help :/

I will be a bit more direct this time. Why would people splurge for this? A intermediate player who barely pays for this game can easily get in top 5k. Securing themselves a copy. Only beginners and people who barely play this game would have trouble with getting in the top 5k. A beginner wouldn't complain because he would know he would get stronger. A guy who barely plays this game wouldn't splurge because he isn't involved enough in this game. So I don't believe any intermediate would splurge for this medal (hell, they should splurge for better medals, like actual premiums). And quite frankly I think it's quite sad a intermediate would have to splurge for this in the first place.

That's quite a specific situation. And seeing as it's often better to 1-turn I try to 1-turn. And I agree, in some cases it might be helpful. And yes, it sucks they made a mistake (lied to us, whatev makes you sleep at night =_=). But it still has a lot of good things going for it.

Totally agree with you on that one. I wonder why they did this though. At first it was only 1 Medal and bam, 3 orb filled Premium Medal. It's frustrating that you need a fully guilted medal as of now. Really hope they change it back next time.

Well, it doesn't have a extremly high cost right (3)? And it's always better to try to 1-turn everything, so I would save Defense Boost skills for alternate medals you use in secondair decks. So I would either go for Second Chance or Atk Prize Plus.

O, well that something I've not yet heard before. Was that medal in this game from the very start?

They didn't advertise any elements. I'd recommend you'd get your facts straight before you start raging <.<

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Dude, it's only 1 Magic Gem. 1. No need to get so mad over that. There will be plenty of other chances to obtain more. So chill and let it go. Like many have stated before me, it's obvious this challenge was supposed to be super hard. Sure, it would have been nice if they would have given us some seperate missions for the lower players, but hey, the rewards aren't that great and we have plenty of other things to do during this event.


On a happy note, saw someone with a fully guilted ill. Kairi in my random friend medal tab. So atleast someone is having a good time.

Not going to draw either o/

No one likes feeling as though Unchained NA has been made to be more difficult than Unchained JP, but that's no excuse (there's never an excuse) to start spouting racist or hateful comments towards Japanese people and Japan.

I've deleted the comment and replies quoting it/edited the comment quoting it. We don't support that type of awful behavior.

personally, i believe that SENA has been handling the deals / HS event very ... uhm, poorly. while it's good that they have finally released illust kairi, the inclusion of the S&R&K medal and its requirements is very very greedy. you'll possibly have to spend hundreds upon hundreds of dollars to even think about getting the medal guilted, much less get one copy. i expected something like this to happen, but ... it's very disappointing either way.

and the jack & sally event ... i haven't bothered to touch it, but it seems like a very messy situation based on miscommunication. it's lame, and while i do think that compensation should be needed for this, i believe the backlash is getting too harsh. since this happened, now i'm sort of expecting illust kairi to be nerfed in some way ... and that ... WELL... that won't be so good.

But hey, wouldn't be the first thing to get nerfed in the game after all...

No, the backlash is not too harsh imo. This is not the only time something like this has happened. It is infuriating as hell if you ask me. :s

remember nick and judy ...

if that ever happens, KHUx NA will probably be as good as dead, but i sort of doubt that will happen after this backlash.... i hope.​



ah, i guess i'm so used to playing KHUX JPN that i rarely hear about any backlash outside of reddit and stuff ... (一。一;;）while i'm far from being a whale, i can admit that the unexpected nerf is really unfair. it's still strong, yeah, but it sort of makes you question if the money you spent on getting a high ranking ( assuming you do ) was worth it ...

One thing I don't understand about Mobile games is their competitions to reward high level players.

I understand they want events, and the events to have good rewards, but when the only players who can get that exclusive medal are people who don't need it while those who do are floundering.

I feel like it creates a broken system where the "rich get richer and the poor get poorer".

This game will never die, because idiotic people are still supporting it (sry) by buying every single shit.

^^^^^
THANK YOU!

I guess there are still a lot who just accept it, but others will probably...dunno, stop playing or switch over to JPN.

I'm playing both at the same time ^

I might be half way to that unfortunately. I'm just SO into this game.

Me too, currently, but it's just so hard to get into it anew...in a language that is nothing but little pictures to me.

It's a very messed-up system all set around money. SE is making it obvious that only the people who spend a fortune will ever get enough top-level medals to get these event medals. Therefore, attempting to convince frustrated people to start spending money, too. =/

I miss the days when you received these kinds of things from grinding/in-game achievements.

She isn't.


Yeah the HS are a difficult situation. I'm not sure what an appropriate solution would be to it though, aside from just like... not having those kinds of events I guess? Maybe they should be thought more of as like... Event Quests for High-End Players, whereas lower end players have the normal Event Quests idk

I miss the days when SE(NA) was a nice company

Well, I'd say it's kinda like gambling.
You spend money for sth you really want, you don't get it or only part of it, you spend more money because you really want it. I don't even want to know how many people spend their money on such games and then don't have money for food anymore.

Sorta. The only real case of "false advertisement" in the announcement was when they said "Test your strength against a level 500 Swaying Spook!" A, One, Singular. TBH I was lmao at the announcement, knowing it's clearly aimed at the top brass because of being a single high level foe (which is advertised as Magic element in the Quest screen) and decided to try it out, knowing full well I would lose, just to see how crazy the critter is. When it turned out to be four of them in one battle, two being speed instead of magic, then I got salty. Not so much the differing element of two of them (kinda par for the course honestly, so it's a minor detail), but because it's 4 instead of one. Even the Whales would have trouble with that, let alone complete it. That's what got me.

Honestly, I'm only sticking around for story updates and because the gameplay is at least enjoyable and I'm slowly but surely taking down the Adamantite Challenges (Actually cleared TT4 with a combo of Piglet, my 100% Guilted Jack medal, TR Pete and Wakka both with APP, and my Xigbar as well as Ill Sora friend medal. Crazy, but it worked like a charm and now my TT is +26 since I managed to get the Power Gem from the event quest...) so my progression needs are being handled as well. The Spook thing will blow over for me, but the lack of M&B is what gets me more than every other shenanigan SENA is pulling, though the recent Draw fiasco and the Jack and Sally Fiasco are pretty close. Once Sena relents and gives us M&B medals my salt content will drop immensely since I'll be able to work towards those.

I don't think we're getting M&B. It would be a pleasant surprise, but don't expect it.

As long as the level 280 proud quests are not released, there is still hope, because in the JP version you can earn one of those medals in each power/speed/magic quest.

It'll probably be a magic mirror instead of M&B

The sad part about this post is that it's so true

[video=youtube;EQmRgFzg0jI]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQmRgFzg0jI[/video]

I also sense the truth in this...

TBH, it's even more frustrating when you're spending money, because if you're like me - you have zero luck and get garbage pulls. Thank god they had finally stopped including the quest medals, but still - of the few occasions I've tried for Ultra Rare Epic Medals, I've had to rely on the 10th guaranteed pull, because the "drop" rate is laughable. It's not worth it, F2P. Don't be me!

I can't imagine paying for ten pulls! o.o

I spent only the amount of money I would spend to buy a regular game ($30) and stopped. I can't justify spending any more than that.

As someone who doesn't play, nor hasn't kept up with SEJP, I'll admit I don't find this game that infuriating. As far as P2W (Pay-to-Win) mobile games have gone in the past, I find this is pretty par for the course, albeit with more depth than your average P2W.

Which is not to say it's fair, it's not, but it's clear SENA's goal is profit (I'm curious how much profit the 2 versions have made) vs. customer satisfaction, which they've made abundantly clear (SRK medal). So at this point, choosing to be frustrated by the game, which is valid, should be seen through the lens of "this is the way it is."

I'm sure, if we ever get M&B medals (since I believe we will), they'll probably be harder than MoG events so.

that's it. im saving my jewels till the next dark and light carnival.

I hope this actually happens. The reverse deal was pretty good and definitely my best pull so far. Also I'd love to guilt Hag.

I pulled.
I didn't get Kairi.

But I got fucking Illustrated Sephiroth.
<3

Just in time to get the Avatar Parts? Bc I pulled for that shiz like 5 times.. and.. well you know the rest..

New notice posted.

It's a long, rather transparent and communicative post (unusual for SENA lol), but essentially they have decided to honour the original parameters listed (so the medal will go out, non-nerfed) and they will also be giving 300 jewels to all players. They also said they are reviewing their internal procedures to make sure this kind of error doesn't occur again.

What do you guys think? Do you think were ACTUALLY trying to bone us with this? Or do you think it was just a random screw up? They do have a precedent for this.

I don't think the medal being changed was a screw up, but I think not listing the new parameters was.

So the Medal is normal now? That's good. That was just the right thing to do, I am glad they did that!

Hey would you look at that. They decided to change the effect of the Jack and Sally medal to the JP effect. Meaning we get it with the effect it originally had. Plus 300 free Jewels! 300 kinda suck. And their reasoning that the medal is too OP for the global version is bs as well. But in the end we all got what we bargained for.
Guess that means we go back to complaining about the lack of Brooms again.

Edit: Ninja'd by Audo >.<