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Madison Davenport (Nameless Star) recently recorded voice over for an unspecified project

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Published on July 16, 2020 @ 11:00 pm
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It may soon be time for Kingdom Hearts Melody of Memory to make its English debut. Madison Davenport, the voice behind the Nameless Star in the Final World in Kingdom Hearts III, posted on Instagram in early July that she was recording some voice over work.

As always with unconfirmed news, take with a grain of sale as this may not be for Kingdom Hearts. Madison does have a history of voice over work with Square Enix, as she also lent her voice to Materia in Dissidia: Final Fantasy NT.

The use of a mask and writing that there were bleach wipes and hand sanitiser available suggests she had to travel to do this recording rather than recording from her home. The timing also lines up, as Kingdom Hearts Melody of Memory launches this year and English voice recording is done towards the end of development.

In an interview with Dengeki PlayStation last year, Nomura was asked about Subject X and the Nameless Star and had this to say about them:

--Many people who have finished KH3 are interested in the "girl" that Lea and Isa were looking for, and the existence of the "NAMELESS STAR" in the Final World. Can you give us any kind of hint about the truth behind these girls? Are they characters who have already appeared in the series?

Nomura: I think this is also possible to figure out for yourself if you look at all the secret reports, but yes, they are characters who have already appeared in the series. You will find out who "NAMELESS STAR" is if there is a next time.

Kairi and Riku were seen talking to one of the stars in the Kingdom Hearts Melody of Memory announcement trailer. Aside from Naminé, the Nameless Star was the only other star to be voiced. With Naminé returned to the realm of light via a replica, the only one left with a voice is the Nameless Star.

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Chaser

July 16, 2020 @ 11:03 pmOffline

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I'm 99.99999999995% certain it's Kingdom Hearts. Her IMDB doesn't have many confirmed upcoming projects at all, we know Nameless Star is returning and voice recording for this game should have started by now, if not it should have been soon.

I forgot that we are suppose to learn her identity in this game until I started looking into past stuff about Nameless Star. Also, it was too flimsy of a connection to make for the article because any recording company could purchase this item, but the same type of pop filter was used by Jesse McCartney at Skylark Sounds in 2013.

The_Echo

July 17, 2020 @ 12:24 amOffline

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C'moooooooooooon September release

Recon

July 17, 2020 @ 12:30 amOffline

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The_Echo

C'moooooooooooon September release

Bet. It’s gunna be November.

Zip

July 17, 2020 @ 12:46 amOffline

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Recon

Bet. It’s gunna be November.


I’m in the September/October camp. I just can’t see Square thinking it’s a good idea to release a game like this the same month as the PS5 and Xbox SX when it most likely won’t be on those platforms. They’d be better off waiting until January if they couldn’t get it out before then.

Cumguardian69

July 17, 2020 @ 12:49 amOffline

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SE will do a Oct/Nov release bc PS5/XSX are Nov/Dec for sure. Glad to hear Madi is still employed as well, keep up the great work!!

SuperNova

July 17, 2020 @ 12:51 amOffline

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Come on October release date!

Zettaflare

July 17, 2020 @ 12:54 amOffline

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September or October. I'm still amazed the the next saga is starting so quickly.

Feels like the Xehanort Saga ended just yesterday, lol

Sakuraba Neku

July 17, 2020 @ 01:24 amOffline

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Plot twist: She recorded for a Verum Rex announcement trailer

kinxsonic

July 17, 2020 @ 02:21 amOffline

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It will be scheduled for October and then get delayed to November :sneaky:

Chaser

July 17, 2020 @ 04:05 amOffline

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I forgot that Nomura said we'd learn her identity next time around so I'm excited now. If we don't find out MoM's then at least we learn who the Nameless Star actually is (rather than guessing, no matter how close or how far those guesses are.)

Edit: I forgot too but I'd like a proper name, pls Nomura.

Cumguardian69

July 17, 2020 @ 04:30 amOffline

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kinxsonic

It will be scheduled for October and then get delayed to November :sneaky:

Delayed to January*

Remember 0.2 was announced for 2017 then delayed to january, same with KH3 announced for 2017 then pushed to january hahaha

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Chie

July 17, 2020 @ 05:09 amOffline

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Chaser

I forgot that Nomura said we'd learn her identity next time around so I'm excited now. If we don't find out MoM's then at least we learn who the Nameless Star actually is (rather than guessing, no matter how close or how far those guesses are.)

Considering that he said that for KH3, the "next time" after that would arguably be ReMind; I wouldn't be surprised if he was referring to what was revealed there and that he is expecting us to make the leap to "ah, she must be the one (1) girl in verum rex".

KeybladeLordSora

July 17, 2020 @ 02:48 pmOffline

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Yeah but that mask is really cute tho

RonaldPoe

July 17, 2020 @ 03:49 pmOffline

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I think it's going to be Strelitzia from KHX. I think she mentioned a brother being corrupted (likely Marluxia) and seems like lost soul. She was also underutilized in her debut despite her cute design.

KeybladeLordSora

July 17, 2020 @ 05:03 pmOffline

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RonaldPoe

I think it's going to be Strelitzia from KHX. I think she mentioned a brother being corrupted (likely Marluxia) and seems like lost soul. She was also underutilized in her debut despite her cute design.

ReMind already debunked that though.

Ballad of Caius

July 17, 2020 @ 05:45 pmOffline

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Sakuraba Neku

Plot twist: She recorded for a Verum Rex announcement trailer

JAHAJAJHAAAHAJAJAH

"This is my ascension." - [S]Noctis[/S] Yozora

U.N. Owen

July 18, 2020 @ 03:38 amOffline

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She's obviously not recording for Dissidia. That's for sure.

FudgemintGuardian

July 19, 2020 @ 02:40 amOffline

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Chie

Considering that he said that for KH3, the "next time" after that would arguably be ReMind; I wouldn't be surprised if he was referring to what was revealed there and that he is expecting us to make the leap to "ah, she must be the one (1) girl in verum rex".
That's how I took it as well. So unless we're getting another twist here where it turns out Nameless Star isn't Not-Stella, then the "next time" already happened.

Chaser

July 19, 2020 @ 02:46 amOffline

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FudgemintGuardian

That's how I took it as well. So unless we're getting another twist here where it turns out Nameless Star isn't Not-Stella, then the "next time" already happened.

It needs to be spelled out for some people. Our twitter mentions are full of people thinking it's Skuld, Strelitzia etc.

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darknessitself

July 19, 2020 @ 02:48 amOffline

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Chaser

It needs to be spelled out for some people. Our twitter mentions are full of people thinking it's Skuld, Strelitzia etc.

I hate to agree with this, but it is very much the truth.

The_Echo

July 19, 2020 @ 01:30 pmOffline

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Chaser

It needs to be spelled out for some people. Our twitter mentions are full of people thinking it's Skuld, Strelitzia etc.

Why is this fanbase always like this? Characters can in no uncertain terms explain exactly what's going on and fans still won't get it.

KeybladeLordSora

July 19, 2020 @ 02:15 pmOffline

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The_Echo

Why is this fanbase always like this? Characters can in no uncertain terms explain exactly what's going on and fans still won't get it.

That must makes me realize something.

Haven't the characters been doing just that?

Explaining things in such a matter-of-fact way that it should be impossible to be confused?

Oracle Spockanort

July 19, 2020 @ 02:29 pmOffline

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KeybladeLordSora

That must makes me realize something.

Haven't the characters been doing just that?

Explaining things in such a matter-of-fact way that it should be impossible to be confused?


It’s because people expect Nomura to obfuscate the truth through misdirection and also connect every single person to each other because he did it in the past despite the larger mystery being focused elsewhere.

It’s already enough that Subject X is likely Skuld. We do not need Subject X and Skuld to also be Nameless Star.

Prior to Re:mind, Strelitzia was a good guess because we had Marluxia who fit the description, but once Re:mind released, it was obvious who she was meant to be associated with. Discussions of it being Skuld or Strelitzia should have ended there but alas, here we are.

Cumguardian69

July 19, 2020 @ 02:38 pmOffline

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The_Echo

Why is this fanbase always like this? Characters can in no uncertain terms explain exactly what's going on and fans still won't get it.

Because this franchise is written so poorly and makes literally no sense at times. Sure, NS says that her homie's heart has been swapped with another's blah blah blah, and in falsus rex Sora says that "that girl" told him about Yozora...but does that mean NS is the girl in VR trailer? Does that mean Yozora *doesn't* know Strel/Skuld? What if Yozora time traveled to the age of fairy tales but got amnesia, but was ACKSHUALLY from the time when the Master of Masters was a kid fighting against the light and the darkness, and the girl the same way?

Don't blame the fanbase for KH's writing and dialogue failures.

The_Echo

July 19, 2020 @ 03:09 pmOffline

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Cumguardian69

Because this franchise is written so poorly and makes literally no sense at times. Sure, NS says that her homie's heart has been swapped with another's blah blah blah, and in falsus rex Sora says that "that girl" told him about Yozora...but does that mean NS is the girl in VR trailer? Does that mean Yozora *doesn't* know Strel/Skuld? What if Yozora time traveled to the age of fairy tales but got amnesia, but was ACKSHUALLY from the time when the Master of Masters was a kid fighting against the light and the darkness, and the girl the same way?

Don't blame the fanbase for KH's writing and dialogue failures.

Fans jumping to wild conclusions without any evidence is not exactly a failure of the games' writing.

KH really, really isn't as complicated or nonsensical (or poorly written) as people make it out to be.
I wish desperately for this stale meme to die out already.

KeybladeLordSora

July 19, 2020 @ 04:01 pmOffline

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The_Echo

Fans jumping to wild conclusions without any evidence is not exactly a failure of the games' writing.

KH really, really isn't as complicated or nonsensical (or poorly written) as people make it out to be.
I wish desperately for this stale meme to die out already.

It won't die out cuz the internet pretty much turned it into a "fact".

And that sucks.

SuperNova

July 19, 2020 @ 05:01 pmOffline

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Nomura could have Sora marching around with a neon sign that says "THIS IS FACT" and people would still try and twist his words into something that is more complex than it needs to be. KH's writing is really stupid and klutzy at times, but the Nameless Star situation was clearly explained.

Cumguardian69

July 19, 2020 @ 05:07 pmOffline

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Source for NS confirmation?

KeybladeLordSora

July 19, 2020 @ 05:24 pmOffline

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SuperNova

Nomura could have Sora marching around with a neon sign that says "THIS IS FACT" and people would still try and twist his words into something that is more complex than it needs to be. KH's writing is really stupid and klutzy at times, but the Nameless Star situation was clearly explained.

Sora: I had a sandwich this morning. It was yummy.

Fanbase interpretation: I had a Light Dark Heartwich that time traveled to this morning to make Kairi's Grandma eat my mom's dinner with 13 sandwiches in the pastfuture.

Did I get that right?

Zettaflare

July 19, 2020 @ 05:34 pmOffline

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Cumguardian69

Source for NS confirmation?

It was confirmed from Sora himself when he said to Yozora "a girl told me about you". That girl being Nameless star

RonaldPoe

July 19, 2020 @ 05:42 pmOffline

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It's more or less confirmed that Project X is Skuld. Player X (protagonist of KH Union X) is at least connected to Xehanort. Forget the original post as I haven't beaten all the Limit-Cut fights yet (My only saves are on Critical mode). Maybe the Nameless Star is Yozora's girlfriend.

SuperNova

July 19, 2020 @ 05:45 pmOffline

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When Sora encounters Yozora he literally says "A girl told me about you." The only girl he talked to in the FW besides Namine was the Nameless Star.

Eonstar890

July 19, 2020 @ 06:04 pmOffline

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KeybladeLordSora

Sora: I had a sandwich this morning. It was yummy.

Fanbase interpretation: I had a Light Dark Heartwich that time traveled to this morning to make Kairi's Grandma eat my mom's dinner with 13 sandwiches in the pastfuture.

Did I get that right?


Honestly the fact that Kairi’s Grandma has been so hyped up is one of the silliest things about this fan base. She’s just an old lady who knows a fairy tale?

But at the same time we still don’t know the faces of the foretellers or MoM after what.. half a decade? So I guess I can’t blame ppl for their crazy theories since the series loves giving us a bunch of questions.

SuperNova

July 19, 2020 @ 06:25 pmOffline

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Currently one of the craziest theories I am seeing is the Corpse Theory. Now that one is a wild ride.

KeybladeLordSora

July 19, 2020 @ 08:01 pmOffline

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SuperNova

Currently one of the craziest theories I am seeing is the Corpse Theory. Now that one is a wild ride.

The WHAT

SuperNova

July 19, 2020 @ 08:33 pmOffline

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KeybladeLordSora

The WHAT

Yeah. Its a recent theory that's been spreading on the Twitter community. Basically someone compared Sora's regular KH3 model to his model from the Secret Episode where he encounters Yozora. TDLR: The change in graphics makes Sora look paler and greyer so people are chalking it up to him being a walking talking corpse.

Cumguardian69

July 19, 2020 @ 08:53 pmOffline

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I do like that one, esp considering that the change is so bizarre and Sora doesn't look like he "fits" in the VR world. Yozora looks like he has more human proportions compared to Sora's obviously anime but "realism-inspired" proportions.

FudgemintGuardian

July 20, 2020 @ 02:48 amOffline

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Chaser

It needs to be spelled out for some people. Our twitter mentions are full of people thinking it's Skuld, Strelitzia etc.

KeybladeLordSora

July 20, 2020 @ 03:36 amOffline

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SuperNova

Yeah. Its a recent theory that's been spreading on the Twitter community. Basically someone compared Sora's regular KH3 model to his model from the Secret Episode where he encounters Yozora. TDLR: The change in graphics makes Sora look paler and greyer so people are chalking it up to him being a walking talking corpse.

...I was skeptical until I saw the fingernails.

But I wouldn't be surprised if this was easily debunked.

SuperNova

July 20, 2020 @ 04:03 amOffline

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Well..considering most of the community is convinced that Sora is gonna end up participating in the Reapers Game..I wouldn't be surprised either. But I don't really count every little plot detail as something that Nomura put there on purpose just for complexity.

MATGSY

July 20, 2020 @ 06:31 amOffline

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So new Nintendo direct for tomorrow. 10 minutes, focusing previously announced 3rd parties. Sounds like good odds for an update.

GreyouTT

July 20, 2020 @ 06:45 amOffline

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SuperNova

Yeah. Its a recent theory that's been spreading on the Twitter community. Basically someone compared Sora's regular KH3 model to his model from the Secret Episode where he encounters Yozora. TDLR: The change in graphics makes Sora look paler and greyer so people are chalking it up to him being a walking talking corpse.


I just figured it was because he always changes slightly to fit a world's artstyle. Like Port Royal in 2 dims the UI and adds a bit of grit to the portraits.

Cumguardian69

July 20, 2020 @ 07:48 amOffline

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MATGSY

So new Nintendo direct for tomorrow. 10 minutes, focusing previously announced 3rd parties. Sounds like good odds for an update.



SE loves to play counterculture....I highly doubt we'll get some MoM news especially with the game just recently being announced....

Chaser

July 20, 2020 @ 08:06 amOffline

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I wouldn't discount it. While they're rumours (and I'm not sure how truthful they are since I'm not in any Nintendo fandom) Nintendo Tweeters have teased KH MoM + more news at this Nintendo Direct.

If not this one then hopefully there'll be something at Xbox's event later this week.

MATGSY

July 20, 2020 @ 08:58 amOffline

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TWEWY port was announced in a direct, it's not that far-fetched to see MoM in one.

EDIT: Another point to consider is that Nintendo has more to gain from promoting the game than Sony/MS as those guys are focused on next-gen which MoM isn't.

2 quid is good

July 20, 2020 @ 10:44 amOffline

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The corpse theory might be one of the more sillier things I've read. Especially when so many people talk about the LiNeS on Sora's hands. It's one thing to theorise but it's quite another to treat it as fact which is something twitter is really wont to do.

It can be easily debunked by putting your phone down, and putting your hand up to your face, either left or right, and LOOKING at it. That should really answer the lines question for people

Chaser

July 20, 2020 @ 02:02 pmOffline

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And back to waiting until 2am AEST on Friday 8)

KeybladeLordSora

July 20, 2020 @ 02:35 pmOffline

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Chaser

And back to waiting until 2am AEST on Friday 8)

*Friday*

"Well back to waiting until Insert Time Here"

Chaser

July 20, 2020 @ 02:51 pmOffline

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KeybladeLordSora

*Friday*

"Well back to waiting until Insert Time Here"

Lmao pretty much. It’s weird to say but outside of SE just dropping it without fanfare or coverage, Xbox is my last hope for this month.

Cumguardian69

July 20, 2020 @ 03:00 pmOffline

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Lol told you guys not to get excited. At least SMTV was reconfirmed after so long!

Anyway, KH is a Sony primary series at this point, I think you should wait for Sony.

KeybladeLordSora

July 20, 2020 @ 03:11 pmOffline

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Cumguardian69

Lol told you guys not to get excited. At least SMTV was reconfirmed after so long!

Anyway, KH is a Sony primary series at this point, I think you should wait for Sony.

You didn't say that at all. You said that SE loves to play "counterculture" and that you doubted that MoM would show up.

Oracle Spockanort

July 20, 2020 @ 04:34 pmOffline

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I was so happy about SMTV and SMT3HD that I forgot for a second that those "Nintendo insiders" said we were getting MoM news lol

As for "Sora is a corpse" theory, I mean...Nomura's fascination over death as a primary theme in the games he conceptualizes is pretty apparent. Is Sora's color palette in Shibuya meant to evoke the sense of a dead person? Perhaps. Will Nomura ever outright say it? Probably not.

The_Echo

July 20, 2020 @ 05:19 pmOffline

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Chaser

Lmao pretty much. It’s weird to say but outside of SE just dropping it without fanfare or coverage, Xbox is my last hope for this month.

Isn't the Xbox event about next gen/Series X stuff?

My money's on an unannounced trailer drop or even just a tweet about a Collector's Edition sometime next week.
I'm not sure MoM is going to have the kind of marketing push/priority that a regular KH game would get.

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Flinkon15th

July 20, 2020 @ 05:58 pmOffline

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KeybladeLordSora

...I was skeptical until I saw the fingernails.

But I wouldn't be surprised if this was easily debunked.


I think that because of how crazy KH as a story can be, where connections are drawn places that people hardly suspected and where one line can dictate a whole character's backstory, this leads people on to speculate so much with so many different theories. Like the Corpse Theory could easily just be a different art direction or a change in graphics lighting on one end of the spectrum, but could just as easily be signifying that Sora is now beyond the grave on the other end. Personally I like the theory, but who knows what's going on in Nomura's head and what is important and what is just video game industry technicalities

SuperNova

July 20, 2020 @ 06:38 pmOffline

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I remain skeptical of the more otherworldly theories including the Corpse Theory, but this series has always been a wild ride. The phase the fandom is going through now really reminds me of the theory phase it went through back in 2005 before KH2 released. Its a cycle.

SuperSaiyanSora

July 23, 2020 @ 09:30 amOffline

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Sakuraba Neku

Plot twist: She recorded for a Verum Rex announcement trailer


Big brain thinking. The gaming community would explode if this happened. Or if a Versus XIII trailer happened.

Cumguardian69

Delayed to January*

Remember 0.2 was announced for 2017 then delayed to january, same with KH3 announced for 2017 then pushed to january hahaha


For the best. People joke about delays, but 0.2 Beta Terra was... Yikes.

I still maintain that had the engine change not occurred, we would've gotten KH3 in early-mid 2018. I'm glad it came out in the time that it did though.

KeybladeLordSora

That must makes me realize something.

Haven't the characters been doing just that?

Explaining things in such a matter-of-fact way that it should be impossible to be confused?


Honestly, this is why the "KH is convoluted" meme has more than overstayed its welcome. Literally everything complicated to understand at first has been explained in-universe by the characters themselves, in a plain-as-day fashion. Young Xehanort might be cryptic most of the time, but even he reveals things when it comes time to it.

The story just has a lot to remember, and while it' not told in the most masterful way, it's nowhere near the dumpster fire people make it out to be.

Then again, people just like to complain about why they don't like things instead of moving on, so... Idunno. The KH story has always been easy to understand, it's the mysteries that cause the confusion more than anything, because most of the time we're going off a lack of information to base theories on. And most of that information may come in a a game where said mysteries get solved anyway.

KeybladeLordSora

...I was skeptical until I saw the fingernails.

But I wouldn't be surprised if this was easily debunked.


It's a cool theory, but I don't know if that's what Nomura's going for. It's a pretty morbid idea if so, and definitely darker than usual. On one hand, it can easily be explained by Sora coming into Yozora's world and therefore, his appearance changes with it. But on the other hand, why even make the change in the secret ending? That model is even on the ReMind DLC art, so you have to wonder why. You'd think there's more significance to it because of how in-your-face it is. And, Sora also wakes up in the Final World with his appearance already looking more realistic. They could've easily kept everything in the same design as before and called it a day, but they made it a point to change him.

Does that mean Sora's a zombie kid now? Not necessarily, but if the guy is actually dead and has to play the Reaper's Game with Yozora or something, then it's just even more detail to an already really cool but also very morbid idea.

KeybladeLordSora

July 23, 2020 @ 03:49 pmOffline

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SuperSaiyanSora

Honestly, this is why the "KH is convoluted" meme has more than overstayed its welcome. Literally everything complicated to understand at first has been explained in-universe by the characters themselves, in a plain-as-day fashion. Young Xehanort might be cryptic most of the time, but even he reveals things when it comes time to it.

The story just has a lot to remember, and while it' not told in the most masterful way, it's nowhere near the dumpster fire people make it out to be.

Then again, people just like to complain about why they don't like things instead of moving on, so... Idunno. The KH story has always been easy to understand, it's the mysteries that cause the confusion more than anything, because most of the time we're going off a lack of information to base theories on. And most of that information may come in a a game where said mysteries get solved anyway.

Exactly!!! KH's reputation as a nearly impossible to understand story is literally just internet hearsay blown way out of proportion.

Like, because of it people literally expect to be horrifically confused from the first game alone!

And don't even get me started on the ones who exaggerate how many games there are.

SuperNova

July 23, 2020 @ 04:33 pmOffline

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Honestly, I think the reason they changed Sora's model was to show the change in tone for Yozora's world and the new direction KH is heading. He looks like he stepped out of a final fantasy game with his newer realistic model so it makes sense that Nomura would update Sora's character model to match Yozora's for their encounter.

Does that mean I discredit the theory that Sora is undead/dead? Not necessarily, for all we know even if Riku and Kairi find him in MoM they still have no way to get him out of the FW which still leaves the Reapers Game as an option.

Cumguardian69

July 23, 2020 @ 05:31 pmOffline

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SuperNova

Honestly, I think the reason they changed Sora's model was to show the change in tone for Yozora's world and the new direction KH is heading. He looks like he stepped out of a final fantasy game with his newer realistic model so it makes sense that Nomura would update Sora's character model to match Yozora's for their encounter.

If they wanted to do that, why not you know give us a taste of Yozora's world and how it functions? Does DEATH-death happen, or are we talking more KH-death? What are the common enemy types? Give Yozora some character and some backstory too, even if just an hour. Give us some actual characters and characterization.

I know Disney pretty much didn't let the ENG crew say "death, die, dead" and instead they had to use "body perish, expire, disappear," and other similar words. But even so...we DO NOT KNOW if Sora is stuck in limbo along with Yozora, we do not know if he is DEAD-dead but gets to fight a powerful enemy as a ticket back to TFW, we just don't know because Nomura wants to be le cryptic with the sequelbaiting instead of commit to some decent storytelling. And that's why the novel corpse theory can be touted by fans.

Absent

July 24, 2020 @ 12:32 amOffline

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I don't know, I think convoluted is the right word to use for the series. I do think the series was easy to follow from 2002 to 2009, post that the presentation of the plot and characters went off the rails.

Cumguardian69

July 24, 2020 @ 12:49 amOffline

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I don't know, I think convoluted is the right word to use for the series. I do think the series was easy to follow from 2002 to 2009, post that the presentation of the plot and characters went off the rails.

Nah, the series has a clear timeline of events. It isn't hard to follow at all. It just doesn't answer questions in a timely sense. It took us forever to find out what happened to Aqua in the RoD, for example (BBS in 2010, 0.2 in 2017, KH3 in 2019)

KeybladeLordSora

July 24, 2020 @ 12:59 amOffline

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Cumguardian69

Nah, the series has a clear timeline of events. It isn't hard to follow at all. It just doesn't answer questions in a timely sense. It took us forever to find out what happened to Aqua in the RoD, for example (BBS in 2010, 0.2 in 2017, KH3 in 2019)

We kinda didn't need to find out what happened to Aqua in the RoD since Blank Points pretty much answered that.

She reached the Dark Margin and met AtW, and DDD's secret ending showed that she was still there, waiting.

The question was what happened once she saw Castle of Dreams in the RoD, and I'm pretty sure people thought that was never gonna happen cuz of BBS Volume 2's silent cancellation until 2.8 was announced.

2 quid is good

July 24, 2020 @ 10:36 pmOffline

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KeybladeLordSora

We kinda didn't need to find out what happened to Aqua in the RoD since Blank Points pretty much answered that.


Plot wise it might not have done much, and even actively worsened the plot retroactively speaking, but 0.2 really elevated Aqua's character a lot higher. I put a lot of importance on that to be honest and I think that facet should be noted as well when it comes to KH games, we shouldn't just value the plot and crazy twists I think.

Cumguardian69

July 24, 2020 @ 10:58 pmOffline

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KeybladeLordSora

We kinda didn't need to find out what happened to Aqua in the RoD since Blank Points pretty much answered that.

But we did. The number one rule is show, don't tell. Cutscenes are some of the most expensive portions of game design but they are SO important to delivering a good story and ultimately a good game. It's not enough to show Aqua merely sitting on the beach. 0.2 easily catapulted her character *and her plight* to the forefront, and is why the Anti Aqua reveal garnered such a visceral reaction from the fanbase.

KeybladeLordSora

July 24, 2020 @ 11:57 pmOffline

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Cumguardian69

But we did. The number one rule is show, don't tell. Cutscenes are some of the most expensive portions of game design but they are SO important to delivering a good story and ultimately a good game. It's not enough to show Aqua merely sitting on the beach. 0.2 easily catapulted her character *and her plight* to the forefront, and is why the Anti Aqua reveal garnered such a visceral reaction from the fanbase.

I admit, my response was a poor one.

And you raise a good point.

Cumguardian69

July 25, 2020 @ 03:26 amOffline

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KeybladeLordSora

I admit, my response was a poor one.

And you raise a good point.

No, your response was not a poor one. I see where you're coming from: 0.2 was about a 3 hr adventure whose beginning and ending we already knew from Blank Points, and the journey between them wasn't some blockbuster must-see for the franchise at large.

That being said, it provided much needed screentime to Aqua. It helped showcase Willa Holland's ability to sound muted and depressed in a positive sense, and it showed some of the inner workings of the realm of darkness.

By all accounts, it wasn't NECESSARY. But, as a mini-episode focused on a character, it was welcome

SuperSaiyanSora

July 25, 2020 @ 07:11 amOffline

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KeybladeLordSora

Exactly!!! KH's reputation as a nearly impossible to understand story is literally just internet hearsay blown way out of proportion.

Like, because of it people literally expect to be horrifically confused from the first game alone!

And don't even get me started on the ones who exaggerate how many games there are.


And to add onto that as well, most of the "side games" are either movies or are important enough to warrant a port/remake so a wider audience can experience the stories that need to be told.

The ONLY game that would throw things for a loop is DDD because of time travel, but even then, it's basically like.... You can't go forward in time as your most current self, but you can go back in time where a version of yourself already exists. You also (presumably) can't change the past either, and once you return back to your own time, you forget all that transpired in the future, but remnants of those memories are etched in your heart.... Leading you down to take the eventual path your future self makes.

How in the world is that complicated lmao. That whole plot point just means nobody can pull a Doctor Who and clap four-year-old Sora on the beach. Sora messed with the natural order of the universe by using the Power of Waking to not only save lost hearts, but to ALSO reverse time right before they all fell, and look what's currently happened to him -- He's trapped in the Final World, presumably dead, and can't find a way back.

This is why DDD is extremely important for the series going forward, because while the characterization for Sora may not be optimal (although the kid got pretty serious once he know shit hit the fan), the elements introduced in DDD are major clues as to where we might be going. It's not a coincidence that the only Square Enix cameos in DDD were the TWEWY cast, and now Sora's in Shibuya. It's also not a coincidence that DDD introduced the Sleeping Worlds, and now Kairi in MoM seems to have been asleep for a year and is facing off against a guy in a black coat while searching for Sora... While in the Final World, a location closely related to sleep. Let's also not forget the KHUX story and how all of that comes into play. It's an extremely important game, nowhere near as bad as people make it out to be, and it's very interesting the more you look into it. It has its flaws, absolutely, but it's not a big ball of convolution.

KeybladeLordSora

July 25, 2020 @ 01:51 pmOffline

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SuperSaiyanSora

And to add onto that as well, most of the "side games" are either movies or are important enough to warrant a port/remake so a wider audience can experience the stories that need to be told.

The ONLY game that would throw things for a loop is DDD because of time travel, but even then, it's basically like.... You can't go forward in time as your most current self, but you can go back in time where a version of yourself already exists. You also (presumably) can't change the past either, and once you return back to your own time, you forget all that transpired in the future, but remnants of those memories are etched in your heart.... Leading you down to take the eventual path your future self makes.

How in the world is that complicated lmao. That whole plot point just means nobody can pull a Doctor Who and clap four-year-old Sora on the beach. Sora messed with the natural order of the universe by using the Power of Waking to not only save lost hearts, but to ALSO reverse time right before they all fell, and look what's currently happened to him -- He's trapped in the Final World, presumably dead, and can't find a way back.

This is why DDD is extremely important for the series going forward, because while the characterization for Sora may not be optimal (although the kid got pretty serious once he know shit hit the fan), the elements introduced in DDD are major clues as to where we might be going. It's not a coincidence that the only Square Enix cameos in DDD were the TWEWY cast, and now Sora's in Shibuya. It's also not a coincidence that DDD introduced the Sleeping Worlds, and now Kairi in MoM seems to have been asleep for a year and is facing off against a guy in a black coat while searching for Sora... While in the Final World, a location closely related to sleep. Let's also not forget the KHUX story and how all of that comes into play. It's an extremely important game, nowhere near as bad as people make it out to be, and it's very interesting the more you look into it. It has its flaws, absolutely, but it's not a big ball of convolution.

Funny that you mention Doctor Who, cuz I always felt that the rule that you can't change things that are destined to happen was the same as "fixed points in time" from DW, only without the consequence of having dinosaurs running down London streets next to Roman soldiers while Winston Churchill knows what downloads are.

Aside from that, you're right. It ain't perfect, but it's not horrifically confusing either.

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