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Published on December 18, 2015 @ 10:00 pm
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Square Enix unveiled a brand new trailer for Kingdom Hearts HD 2.8 Final Chapter Prologue today at Jump Festa!

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gosoxtim

December 19, 2015 @ 03:10 amOffline

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um so does this mean the rebirth theroy is true?

Blackdrazon

December 19, 2015 @ 03:13 amOffline

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Not much I can glean from the first half of the trailer (at least until it's properly translated), except to say that that's real nice-lookin' stained glass.

[Edit: Welp, speak of the devil.]

Everyone can have fun with the second half of the trailer, though. I like the way the Yellow Operas and Violet Waltz's have fancier hats, because a Final Fantasy Black Mage always upgrades their hat if they have a promoted form (Black Wizards in FFI, Maguses in FFIII).

Sdog

December 19, 2015 @ 03:13 amOffline

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The subbed one is up
[video=youtube;Sfw_r1UCPs0]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sfw_r1UCPs0[/video]

catcake

December 19, 2015 @ 03:14 amOffline

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It wasn't all that much but worth the wait nevertheless oh man those scythe enemies rocking that Marluxia style look amazing, can't wait to know more about them! The water part looked a bit weird but it is still in production so maybe it'll be fixed. All in all looking so good.

Oracle Spockanort

December 19, 2015 @ 03:14 amOffline

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REBITH THEORY AAAAAAH

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ultima-demi

December 19, 2015 @ 03:15 amOffline

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Is it me or did Kairi's hair get a quite a bit longer and besides that dem environments.

Hercules world looks amazing.Those waterfalls in the back looking great.

LightUpTheSky452

December 19, 2015 @ 03:15 amOffline

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I was starting to go away from the video to login here, not realizing it also had KHIII footage in it, and boy am I glad I kept the video going and the sound on, so I could look back down and see the KHIII awesomeness!

OMG! Some of those new attacks look amazing! Absolutely amazing! And those water physics, this is what I'm here for people! OMG!:D

And as for the II.8 trailer, they sure spoiled a lot for Dream Drop Distance, but I can't say I really mind. And that part with Rinzler reaching for Sora's hand still brings about all the feels. The game also seems to be looking gorgeous to me, and I appreciate that they showed some of the ladies in the trailer for DDD;)

II.8... Kairi... she looks so gorgeous! -sobs forever- And I swear that her hair is longer. Yen Sid is also looking pretty hip in the new graphics.

And I'm for sure digging the 3D version stuff for Chi. That one location is looking especially nice. Also... do we have any idea on the Foretllers' VAs yet?:)

All in all, a great night (and Christmas gift), and I hope it'll make the fandom act less jaded now.

Edit: So it seems that we're all in agreement that Kairi's hair is longer, and that the Rebirth theory is true. Wow. Just wow. ASDFGHJKL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

rokudamia2

December 19, 2015 @ 03:16 amOffline

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There was some nice environmental interaction with soda in the water.

Moose

December 19, 2015 @ 03:17 amOffline

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Master Spockanort
REBITH THEORY AAAAAAH


Wait so is it actually confirmed? Do the Japanese voice actors match up?

Also, Shotlocks, I don't know how I feel about that too be honest.

Launchpad

December 19, 2015 @ 03:17 amOffline

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I think KH3's combat looks kinda bad. The enemies have shitty flinch. :p hopefully it'll get better. The graphics look good

gosoxtim

December 19, 2015 @ 03:19 amOffline

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yep master spockanort nail riku voice as the unicorn

Crysaxel

December 19, 2015 @ 03:20 amOffline

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Personally I think KH3 looks beautiful!
Its still has no release date yet which means theirs still a lot of work to do.
If it looks this nice now, I can't wait to see how gorgeous its going to look as a final product. Game-play looks like its going to be a ton of fun and I just can't get over how nice it looks overall.
So hyped to play all three of these titles!

Chaser

December 19, 2015 @ 03:21 amOffline

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This was everything I expected and more. 5 and a half minutes was more than enough, I was expecting like 3-3:30 minutes.

II.8 FCP looks gorgeous. Loving that Yen Sid and the Mysterious Tower sky is just gorgeous. Just wish we could have seen more of Aqua.

Back Cover looks exciting, and it's great that Grass' Rebirth theory is true.

KH3 looks excellent like always. Loving the shotlocks and Marluxia's Nobodies. I'm a bit sad that one of the Heartless' doesn't seem to be the Violet Waltz though (but it's certainly not that heartless from Days either lol)

rokudamia2
There was some nice environmental interaction with soda in the water.

Ahhhhh a refreshing soda.

gosoxtim

December 19, 2015 @ 03:22 amOffline

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we got to stick that theroy becuase it not going anywhere

Blackdrazon

December 19, 2015 @ 03:22 amOffline

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ultima-demi
Is it me or did Kairi's hair get a quite a bit longer and besides that dem environments.


She's definitely got a revised model. I for one was drawn to her face. Though I still hope she gets a fully revised outfit in the future.

WhinyAcademic

December 19, 2015 @ 03:23 amOffline

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Well, that wasn't worth the wait. Disappointing. I was hoping for something new. Feels like Square just said, "Eh, they've gotten over it by now, just throw them the trailer and be done with it."

AFP's intro still irks me. Mickey basically says, "Oh, yeah, I found Aqua but didn't remember her till now! And I didn't try to rescue her either!" Sigh. I'm sure he did but still.

And I still don't share Square's enthusiasm for the lifeless, empty worlds of 3D. Oh boy, no persecuted people to rally around Quasimodo! Only thing I'm in for is The World That Never Was and the Xemnas boss battle. And the last cut scene movie literally put me to sleep.

And they want $50 for this. And no relevant III footage either. Hurry up, 2017, so we'll be another 10 years away from KH3.

Launchpad

December 19, 2015 @ 03:23 amOffline

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Sora in the river was the worst part imo. Best part was probably the new Disney ride. The river part was so poorly animated.

KeybladeLordSora

December 19, 2015 @ 03:25 amOffline

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I noticed that KH3's command menu changed color, and that it switched to shortcuts for magic and "Button" for the Shotlock/Flowmotion attacks.

Sign

December 19, 2015 @ 03:25 amOffline

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LightUpTheSky452
And I'm for sure digging the 3D version stuff for Chi. That one location is looking especially nice. Also... do we have any idea on the Foretllers' VAs yet?:)


They're an exact match to the Rebirth theory :)

Unicornis / Riku: Mamoru Miyano
Anguis / Aqua: Megumi Toyoguchi
Ursus / Terra: Ryotaro Okiayu
Vulpes / Kairi: Risa Uchida
Leopardus / Ventus: Koki Uchiyama

Chaser

December 19, 2015 @ 03:26 amOffline

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Return to us, Prince

silentmusic16

December 19, 2015 @ 03:27 amOffline

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Twilight Town looked fantastic. Absolutely fantastic, graphic and lighting wise. Also, I'm glad to see Shot Lock back and updated - I liked the system a lot, personally. I'm glad we got that look at the Marluxia nobodies in action; the sakura petal effect was nice.

Wish we got more of a look at 0.2, though. And while DDD certainly looks updated, it really does show how empty the game was town-wise.

The way they did the Back Cover cutscenes is intriguing - I wonder if they'll keep that story-book idea, and if we'll see the Chi models or something more updated.

gosoxtim

December 19, 2015 @ 03:28 amOffline

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They're an exact match to the Rebirth theory :)

Unicornis / Riku: Mamoru Miyano
Anguis / Aqua: Megumi Toyoguchi
Ursus / Terra: Ryotaro Okiayu
Vulpes / Kairi: Risa Uchida
Leopardus / Ventus: Koki Uchiyama
wow man i never it coming now i wonder it going to work us va then hmm?

robvandam111

December 19, 2015 @ 03:32 amOffline

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I'm happy I have KHInsider on Facebook. I had to rush back to the forum :)

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PunksNotDead

December 19, 2015 @ 03:32 amOffline

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What's this about summoning Hitler? I doubt he'd be much use in the keyblade war :frown:
http://postimg.org/image/wkxnret4j/

KeybladeLordSora

December 19, 2015 @ 03:32 amOffline

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silentmusic16
Twilight Town looked fantastic. Absolutely fantastic, graphic and lighting wise. Also, I'm glad to see Shot Lock back and updated - I liked the system a lot, personally. I'm glad we got that look at the Marluxia nobodies in action; the sakura petal effect was nice.

Wish we got more of a look at 0.2, though. And while DDD certainly looks updated, it really does show how empty the game was town-wise.

The way they did the Back Cover cutscenes is intriguing - I wonder if they'll keep that story-book idea, and if we'll see the Chi models or something more updated.

I have an idea as to why the worlds are empty in DDD. They're basically dream worlds, yes? Reality's laws don't exist in dreams. Random npcs don't exist in dreams.

And Twilight Town does indeed look fantastic.

silentmusic16

December 19, 2015 @ 03:34 amOffline

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gelandporn

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They're an exact match to the Rebirth theory :)

Unicornis / Riku: Mamoru Miyano
Anguis / Aqua: Megumi Toyoguchi
Ursus / Terra: Ryotaro Okiayu
Vulpes / Kairi: Risa Uchida
Leopardus / Ventus: Koki Uchiyama


Well damn! That's the final nail in the coffin then (for lack of a better term) - the Rebirth theory is true.

This is actually great! Even if it doesn't match up 100% to gelandporn's, it'll certainly be close enough.

Moose

December 19, 2015 @ 03:36 amOffline

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Now that they added in Shotlocks I'm kind of worried about the overwhelming amount of techniques we can use:
-Keyblade Transformations
-Attraction Flow
-Flowmotion
-Shotlocks
-Summons (Most Likely)

I really hope this doesn't end up like BBS where keyblade attacks weren't very viable.

Hirokey123

December 19, 2015 @ 03:38 amOffline

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It doesn't necessarily mean the rebirth theory is true they very easily could be just summoned out the tome of prophecy which I think is what actually happened myself. It parallels how the journal is protected from people inside, Data Sora and Data Riku. Here I believe that the master in order to save the world and have suitable guards for the tome of prophecy decided to summoned forth the guardians of light from the tome of prophecy, copies of them specifically like the worlds and people like Snow White are.

Also I think I understand attraction flow now.


Before he summons shooting blaster you see a green menu bar appear with shooting blaster in katakana with 99*6 on it. During regular combat the same color green appears on numbers like 3p and 2p when Sora is hitting hearts. It looks identical to the tech point system so this is my theory.


Tech points are back but instead of experience they are attraction flow points. When you build up enough points then the attraction flow can be activated to expend your points.

Chaser

December 19, 2015 @ 03:40 amOffline

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Moose
Now that they added in Shotlocks I'm kind of worried about the overwhelming amount of techniques we can use:
-Keyblade Transformations
-Attraction Flow
-Flowmotion
-Shotlocks
-Summons (Most Likely)

I really hope this doesn't end up like BBS where keyblade attacks weren't very viable.

While it is still being tweaked, it was nice to see those attacks not being one-hit K.O.'s to the enemies.

gosoxtim

December 19, 2015 @ 03:41 amOffline

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Hirokey123
It doesn't necessarily mean the rebirth theory is true they very easily could be just summoned out the tome of prophecy which I think is what actually happened myself. It parallels how the journal is protected from people inside, Data Sora and Data Riku. Here I believe that the master in order to save the world and have suitable guards for the tome of prophecy decided to summoned forth the guardians of light from the tome of prophecy, copies of them specifically like the worlds and people like Snow White are.
then why did the forteeler have the same exact va when you hear them talk?

Oracle Spockanort

December 19, 2015 @ 03:42 amOffline

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Hirokey123
It doesn't necessarily mean the rebirth theory is true they very easily could be just summoned out the tome of prophecy which I think is what actually happened myself. It parallels how the journal is protected from people inside, Data Sora and Data Riku. Here I believe that the master in order to save the world and have suitable guards for the tome of prophecy decided to summoned forth the guardians of light from the tome of prophecy, copies of them specifically like the worlds and people like Snow White are.


That wouldn't make sense. This is taking place in the past. Why would the tome pull out the GoL to represent the Foretellers rather than the Foretellers themselves?

And why would the tome pull out the Foretellers represented by the GoL when the Foretellers are there...

Essentially, that doesn't make any sense.

gosoxtim

December 19, 2015 @ 03:44 amOffline

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there no more denying it that rebirth theroy is true all of it so i guess we got to get used to it

LightUpTheSky452

December 19, 2015 @ 03:44 amOffline

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They're an exact match to the Rebirth theory :)

Unicornis / Riku: Mamoru Miyano
Anguis / Aqua: Megumi Toyoguchi
Ursus / Terra: Ryotaro Okiayu
Vulpes / Kairi: Risa Uchida
Leopardus / Ventus: Koki Uchiyama


Well, damn. This is really exciting... and at the same time, I kind of wish I could go back in time and stop myself from ever reading the Rebirth theory. LOL. Remember how some of us back then read it all and were like, "I feel like I just read KHIII spoilers," well, now it seems like that sentiment was completely right to have. LOL. (Though honestly, I'm mostly joking, and am uber excited about it/that I know it. Congratulations on being right, Grass! ^_^)

Also, this confirms that Hayden Panittiere has to come back, right? Because now not only is she voicing (a hopefully more used) Kairi, but also Ava now.

Now I'm even more curious if Kairi might be doing something really important in III, since Ava's part (her perhaps original incarnation) in Chi is so huge, and Square's been so hush-hush about Kairi in III, I mean.

...And now we must all wait to hear Ephemera's voice, to see if the theory about him being Sora's original self is true....

Anyway, moving away from Chi stuff, is any of the stuff in this trailer new at all? I mainly ask because I don't remember reading about some of these things in the D23 write up, but maybe people just forgot a few aspects of the trailers shown there and forgot to mention them in their tweets about the event and stuff?

Edit: @Hirokey23: If tech points truly are back, I swear I'll be the happiest person alive. I loved them in KH1 SO VERY MUCH, and I would adore it if they came back for this one game to end out the Xehanort Saga. It would be like book ends, even.

silentmusic16

December 19, 2015 @ 03:47 amOffline

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Lunafreya
While it is still being tweaked, it was nice to see those attacks not being one-hit K.O.'s to the enemies.


Good point. They didn't look way too overpowered. Even shot lock didn't kill everything it touched in the trailer, iirc.

Casting magic looks really fast now. I like it.

gosoxtim

December 19, 2015 @ 03:48 amOffline

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LightUpTheSky452
Well, damn. This is really exciting... and at the same time, I kind of wish I could go back in time and stop myself from ever reading the Rebirth theory. LOL. Remember how some of us back then read it all and were like, "I feel like I just read KHIII spoilers," well, now it seems like that sentiment was completely right to have. LOL. (Though honestly, I'm mostly joking, and am uber excited about it/that I know it. Congratulations on being right, Grass! ^_^)

Also, this confirms that Hayden Panittiere has to come back, right? Because now not only is she voicing (a hopefully more used) Kairi, but also Ava now.

Now I'm even more curious if Kairi might be doing something really important in III, since Ava's part (her perhaps original incarnation) in Chi is so huge, and Square's been so hush-hush about Kairi in III, I mean.

...And now we must all wait to hear Ephemera's voice, to see if the theory about him being Sora's original self is true....

Anyway, moving away from Chi stuff, is any of the stuff in this trailer new at all? I mainly ask because I don't remember reading about some of these things in the D23 write up, but maybe people just forgot a few aspects of the trailers shown there and forgot to mention them in their tweets about the event and stuff?
um if they cant hayden most likey is stoner for madame ava as for the trailer iteslf no everything is same as the d23 stuff

XIII Heartless

December 19, 2015 @ 03:53 amOffline

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So, that was a pretty dope trailer.

Wonderful

December 19, 2015 @ 03:53 amOffline

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They're an exact match to the Rebirth theory :)

Unicornis / Riku: Mamoru Miyano
Anguis / Aqua: Megumi Toyoguchi
Ursus / Terra: Ryotaro Okiayu
Vulpes / Kairi: Risa Uchida
Leopardus / Ventus: Koki Uchiyama

that's so disappointing.
one, because reincarnation or whatever is kinda meh idea
two, basically just means these characters are more or less even more clones
three, and most important, i was looking forward to all new voice cast for all new characters ;-;
sigh.

gosoxtim
as for the trailer iteslf no everything is same as the d23 stuff

well the full eraqus/xehanort conversation was missing.

LightUpTheSky452

December 19, 2015 @ 03:54 amOffline

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gosoxtim
um if they cant hayden most likey is stoner for madame ava as for the trailer iteslf no everything is same as the d23 stuff


I thought that it was, but I just don't remember hearing about Sora getting pulled down the stream and stuff at D23. Maybe I just forgot I read it^_^'

Yeah, if they can't get Hayden, they'll most likely have Alyson Stoner do it. I'm hoping Hayden will come back, though, because she seems to at least try for the main titles (such as BbS and DDD recently), and she just did some video game voice over work recently, so here's hoping:)

Plus, I just prefer Kairi and Xion having separate voices from each other, so I hope that they'll both come back. Hayden for Kairi and Alyson for Xion (though I'm not too worried about Alyson, because she's been really faithful thus far).

KeybladeLordSora

December 19, 2015 @ 03:55 amOffline

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XIII Heartless
So, that was a pretty dope trailer.

I'm gonna be honest....Yen Sid looks pretty handsome.

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Xagzan

December 19, 2015 @ 03:57 amOffline

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Wonderful
that's so disappointing.
one, because reincarnation or whatever is kinda meh idea
two, basically just means these characters are more or less even more clones
three, and most important, i was looking forward to all new voice cast for all new characters ;-;
sigh.


So hackneyed. Why does it seem like Nomura keeps trying to emulate Naruto time after time? Naruto is awful. Please stop, Nomura.

Yen Sid looks really great, so it's strange that Riku and Kairi still look so lifeless. I guess because they're not moving.

Wonderful

December 19, 2015 @ 03:58 amOffline

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KeybladeLordSora
I have an idea as to why the worlds are empty in DDD. They're basically dream worlds, yes? Reality's laws don't exist in dreams. Random npcs don't exist in dreams.

And Twilight Town does indeed look fantastic.

the worlds are empty in DDD because they are empty in every KH game. KH just has empty worlds.

LightUpTheSky452
Plus, I just prefer Kairi and Xion having separate voices from each other

they don't, though. canonically they have the same voice. hayden voices both kairi and xion in the games she appears.

personally i want hayden over stoner. stoner isn't very good as far as i am concerned. and it would suck to end the saga with kairi not being voiced by her main va.

Antifa Lockhart

December 19, 2015 @ 03:59 amOffline

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LightUpTheSky452

Plus, I just prefer Kairi and Xion having separate voices from each other, so I hope that they'll both come back. Hayden for Kairi and Alyson for Xion (though I'm not too worried about Alyson, because she's been really faithful thus far).


That idea drives me up the wall, but to each their own. It'll be interesting to hear from the cast again.

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kakalakingma

December 19, 2015 @ 04:01 amOffline

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Can someone give me a refresher on what the rebirth theory is. LINK?

faemarch

December 19, 2015 @ 04:01 amOffline

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Wonderful
that's so disappointing.
one, because reincarnation or whatever is kinda meh idea
two, basically just means these characters are more or less even more clones
three, and most important, i was looking forward to all new voice cast for all new characters ;-;
sigh.

I'm going to have to echo the same sentiments as well. I'm worried that the Foretellers will essentially become carbon-copies of TAVRK, so I'm hoping that they at least look different if we ever get to see them unhooded.

gosoxtim

December 19, 2015 @ 04:02 amOffline

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kakalakingma
Can someone give me a refresher on what the rebirth theory is. LINK?
http://forums.khinsider.com/kingdom-hearts-iii/194630-rebirth.html

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his grace

December 19, 2015 @ 04:05 amOffline

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What No Drive forms ? ( that Kinda Lame I don't even Like Shot Lock )

gosoxtim

December 19, 2015 @ 04:05 amOffline

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faemarch
I'm going to have to echo the same sentiments as well. I'm worried that the Foretellers will essentially become carbon-copies of TAVRK, so I'm hoping that they at least look different if we ever get to see them unhooded.
we dont what there personalities all we know they have same va as the other characther we know for all we know there personalities could be different

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kakalakingma

December 19, 2015 @ 04:06 amOffline

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gosoxtim
http://forums.khinsider.com/kingdom-hearts-iii/194630-rebirth.html


I didn't expect this refresher to be a novel long!

Sigh. You got a TL:DR version? LOL. I'll.. read later. And btw, we are just assume at this point that the theory may be proven or exposed in some way in the 2.8 playthrough right? Or 3.0

silentmusic16

December 19, 2015 @ 04:06 amOffline

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faemarch
I'm going to have to echo the same sentiments as well. I'm worried that the Foretellers will essentially become carbon-copies of TAVRK, so I'm hoping that they at least look different if we ever get to see them unhooded.


From Chi alone they at least seem to have their own personalities. That said, I think it works thematically, even if they're not straight up reincarnations. The three generations of Keyblade Warriors being similar, and the way the story of the heartless starting with the Chi gen, continuing through BBS, and ending of this main conflict with Sora is a neat little bookend kind of thing.

I'm a supporter of the Rebirth theory so I'm really happy about this near-confirmation.

Chuman

December 19, 2015 @ 04:07 amOffline

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-rebirth theory
-shotlocks
-flowmotion
-tech points
-the combat looks better

THANKS SQUIZZLE MY HIZZLES

gosoxtim

December 19, 2015 @ 04:10 amOffline

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kakalakingma
I didn't expect this refresher to be a novel long!

Sigh. You got a TL:DR version? LOL. I'll.. read later. And btw, we are just assume at this point that the theory may be proven or exposed in some way in the 2.8 playthrough right? Or 3.0

correct as right now it going end up true until we wach the movie

LightUpTheSky452

December 19, 2015 @ 04:12 amOffline

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Wonderful
they don't, though. canonically they have the same voice. hayden voices both kairi and xion in the games she appears.


Yeah, but so far SENA has done such a weird job of going back and forth with them (where so far Hayden has mostly voiced Kairi, and Alyson, Xion), that it almost seems like they do/can. Though to be fair, I know a lot of this is probably because of Hayden's busy schedule, though.

Tinny

That idea drives me up the wall, but to each their own. It'll be interesting to hear from the cast again.



I can see why it would bother you (and it used to me, too, since they're not voiced like that in the Japanese version), but I just like it this way now, because we all know Xion's going to become her own person in the end anyway, so why not go the extra mile and give her her own voice? It serves to help differentiate her from Kairi as well, which is nice, as a lot of people (rightfully, tbh) complain about the number of carbon copies of people in this series.

And I... I just can't imagine anyone but Hayden as Kairi most of the time, and while I could maybe handle Hayden voicing Xion (since I don't have my nostalgia goggles on as tightly with her), I feel like that would also come off as really strange, perhaps.

So really--for me, at least--giving them different voices is truly the best way to go. Especially since it would give both Hayden and Alyson the chance to end out this saga they've both spent quite a time acting in.

Chuman

December 19, 2015 @ 04:12 amOffline

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One thing that disappoints me is the lack of HUD in DFDDD. What are you hiding square?

Wonderful

December 19, 2015 @ 04:13 amOffline

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LightUpTheSky452
And I... I just can't imagine anyone but Hayden as Kairi most of the time, and while I could maybe handle Hayden voicing Xion (since I don't have my nostalgia goggles on as tightly with her), I feel like that would also come off as really strange, perhaps.

you know hayden voiced xion in BBS and DDD right?

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gosoxtim
we dont what there personalities all we know they have same va as the other characther we know for all we know there personalities could be different

i don't think people's criticisms of kh having too many "clone" characters has to do with personalities. all of the "clones" have different personalities, after all.
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Oracle Spockanort

December 19, 2015 @ 04:13 amOffline

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kakalakingma
I didn't expect this refresher to be a novel long!

Sigh. You got a TL:DR version? LOL. I'll.. read later. And btw, we are just assume at this point that the theory may be proven or exposed in some way in the 2.8 playthrough right? Or 3.0


TL;DR

Riku, Aqua, Terra, Kairi, and Ven have a similar color scheme to the Foretellers and Nomura tends to do things on purpose therefore the Foretellers AKA the ones who caused the first Keyblade war are in fact our Guardians of Light, the chosen of the Keyblade destined to cross Keyblades against Xehanort...aka Foretellers reborn.

his grace
What No Drive forms ? ( that Kinda Lame I don't even Like Shot Lock )


Currently in development title is currently in development. Also lol Nomura said in an interview many months bad they were still thinking about if they want Drives in KH3. Honestly they aren't necessary considering what Sora can do now.

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his grace

December 19, 2015 @ 04:15 amOffline

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Pretty let down Trailer for me ( But This what happens When its The BB team doing Kingdom hearts III So I should't be shocked By this News )

Antifa Lockhart

December 19, 2015 @ 04:16 amOffline

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Pretty let down Trailer for me ( But This what happens When its The BB team doing Kingdom hearts III So I should't be shocked By this News )


This comment doesn't make any sense. The original KH dev team doesn't really exist anymore.

Chaser

December 19, 2015 @ 04:16 amOffline

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chuman
One thing that disappoints me is the lack of HUD in DFDDD. What are you hiding square?

Square never show HUD in the remaster promotions, it's disappointing.

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Pretty let down Trailer for me ( But This what happens When its The BB team doing Kingdom hearts III So I should't be shocked By this News )

BB Team?

Kaijuguy19

December 19, 2015 @ 04:16 amOffline

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Wished the new KH3 showed a bit more then just gameplay footage though I did like the one for 2.8 which actually does show more content. :)

Chuman

December 19, 2015 @ 04:17 amOffline

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Pretty let down Trailer for me ( But This what happens When its The BB team doing Kingdom hearts III So I should't be shocked By this News )


TROLL IN THE KINGDOM EVERYBODY

pissed when you got news, pissed when you didnt. Did you join this forum to complain?

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December 19, 2015 @ 04:17 amOffline

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Master Spockanort
TL;DR
Currently in development title is currently in development. Also lol Nomura said in an interview many months bad they were still thinking about if they want Drives in KH3. Honestly they aren't necessary considering what Sora can do now.
That doesn't Change the fact they were sooo Cool ( Plus if Sora is a Keyblade master you would Think he Needs Armor like the others

Chuman

December 19, 2015 @ 04:18 amOffline

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That doesn't Change the fact they were sooo Cool ( Plus if Sora is a Keyblade master you would Think he Needs Armor like the others


They needed armor to travel through space, but the gummi ship protects them so its superfluous.

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December 19, 2015 @ 04:18 amOffline

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Master Spockanort
TL;DR

Riku, Aqua, Terra, Kairi, and Ven have a similar color scheme to the Foretellers and Nomura tends to do things on purpose therefore the Foretellers AKA the ones who caused the first Keyblade war are in fact our Guardians of Light, the chosen of the Keyblade destined to cross Keyblades against Xehanort...aka Foretellers reborn.


Thanks for the condensed milk version.

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I'm very impressed with the flashy colors and moves in the KHIII portion of the trailer. One ongoing disappoint (probably will never be realized) is how empty the worlds are. The only lively thing are the enemies and protagonist and company. No birds, no bugs, no random NPCs (I'm not asking for open world dozens of NPC kind of thing, but I mean.... >_<

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December 19, 2015 @ 04:19 amOffline

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chuman
TROLL IN THE KINGDOM EVERYBODY

pissed when you got news, pissed when you didnt. Did you join this forum to complain?
Because I don't like what You like I'm a troll ? :confused: ( drone In the The area everybody )

Oracle Spockanort

December 19, 2015 @ 04:19 amOffline

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That doesn't Change the fact they were sooo Cool ( Plus if Sora is a Keyblade master you would Think he Needs Armor like the others


I thought it was a lame representation of the shounen era of the early-mid 2000s but...eh. To each their own.

Drive forms =/= armor

Sora doesn't need armor. He's got magic clothes. And he doesn't need Drive forms because he's got every other power under the sun now.

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December 19, 2015 @ 04:20 amOffline

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chuman
They needed armor to travel through space, but the gummi ship protects them so its superfluous.
Yet they are Used in the Keyblade graveyard ( Nice )

Master Spockanort
I thought it was a lame representation of the shounen era of the early-mid 2000s but...eh. To each their own.

Drive forms =/= armor
In my opinion I never liked the Idea of shot Lock and it should have Been I thing for BB and not the Main Kingdom hearts games ( just my opinion tho)

Oracle Spockanort

December 19, 2015 @ 04:22 amOffline

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Yet they are Used in the Keyblade graveyard ( Nice )


Because that was what TAV were taught to use. Xehanort didn't have armor and Vanitas' armor consisted of his spandex darkness Kamen Rider suit.

Armor is obsolete. It's a relic of the past, carried down only through tradition. Sora and his friends aren't traditional wielders by any means.

his grace
In my opinion I never liked the Idea of shot Lock and it should have Been I thing for BB and not the Main Kingdom hearts games


BB?

BBS is essentially a main game.

KeybladeLordSora

December 19, 2015 @ 04:23 amOffline

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If you guys look closely at the Character icons, they actually change when a battle starts.

Chuman

December 19, 2015 @ 04:24 amOffline

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Because I don't like what You like I'm a troll ? :confused: ( drone In the The area everybody )

You're exhibiting major troll behavior.
his grace
Yet they are Used in the Keyblade graveyard ( Nice )


Because it protects them from darkness, which didn't work, so there is zero reason to give sora armor.

Lifes.Lover

December 19, 2015 @ 04:25 amOffline

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What's all this about a rebirth theory? I read the link given, but I'm not quite sure I understand exactly how this trailer near-confirms it. I guess I need to learn more about Chi in order to understand it. I've been out of the swing of things for far too long!

I'm amazed over the trailer, though! And I loved the part where Sora was in the water and got swept along. It might not be refined right now, but I think it would be amazing if the environment actually mattered in how Sora fought.

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December 19, 2015 @ 04:25 amOffline

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Master Spockanort
Because that was what TAV were taught to use. Xehanort didn't have armor and Vanitas' armor consisted of his spandex darkness Kamen Rider suit.

Armor is obsolete. It's a relic of the past, carried down only through tradition. Sora and his friends aren't traditional wielders by any means.



BB?

BBS is essentially a main game.
What I mean By that 1 to 2 ( I know BB is a main story that important) But that just my opinion

Wonderful

December 19, 2015 @ 04:25 amOffline

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Lunafreya
Square never show HUD in the remaster promotions, it's disappointing.


BB Team?

the goes in raw team of osaka

Chuman

December 19, 2015 @ 04:26 amOffline

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What I mean By that 1 to 2 ( I know BB is a main story that important) But that just my opinion


Bbs was the first non gimmicky game that osaka designed. It was rough design wise but they know what they're doing now.

Chaser

December 19, 2015 @ 04:26 amOffline

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KeybladeLordSora
If you guys look closely at the Character icons, they actually change when a battle starts.

Huh well there you go.




Don't like how it just snaps between the two though.

Oracle Spockanort

December 19, 2015 @ 04:26 amOffline

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Lifes.Lover
What's all this about a rebirth theory? I read the link given, but I'm not quite sure I understand exactly how this trailer near-confirms it. I guess I need to learn more about Chi in order to understand it. I've been out of the swing of things for far too long!

I'm amazed over the trailer, though! And I loved the part where Sora was in the water and got swept along. It might not be refined right now, but I think it would be amazing if the environment actually mattered in how Sora fought.


The voice actors are Riku, Aqua, Terra, Kairi, Ven/Roxas' in that order for Unicornis, Anguis, Ursus, Vulpes, and Leopardus (the people talking in the trailer. As each person talks, the screen hovers over their Union)

gosoxtim

December 19, 2015 @ 04:27 amOffline

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Lifes.Lover
What's all this about a rebirth theory? I read the link given, but I'm not quite sure I understand exactly how this trailer near-confirms it. I guess I need to learn more about Chi in order to understand it. I've been out of the swing of things for far too long!
bascialy the same va of tav and riu and kair are voice the forttlers when you match the same color of color of the characthers you it preey much the rebirth theroy

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his grace

December 19, 2015 @ 04:27 amOffline

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chuman
You're exhibiting major troll behavior.
You Don't Like Shot Lock ?
You are a Troll

Get over Yourself Dude Not everyone is going to be Happy Like you. ( Very one side way of thinking its Very disgusting )

Oracle Spockanort

December 19, 2015 @ 04:29 amOffline

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You Don't Like Shot Lock ?
You are a Troll

Get over Yourself Dude Not everyone is going to be Happy Like you. ( Very one side way of thinking its Very disgusting )


It's not your opinion that makes you seem like a troll...

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December 19, 2015 @ 04:30 amOffline

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Lunafreya
Huh well there you go.




Don't like how it just snaps between the two though.


What ever happened to the character portraits being animated like in the D23 2013 trailer? I kinda liked that :frown:

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December 19, 2015 @ 04:32 amOffline

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Master Spockanort
It's not your opinion that makes you seem like a troll...
what is then ? I haven't been Back here for a while ( Everyone In gametsu Tells me everyone in Khinsider is Mindless Drone and I should not bother Making an account But I want to Give this place one more chance was I wrong ? )

Lifes.Lover

December 19, 2015 @ 04:32 amOffline

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I love how Goofy just looks so fierce, though! Completely un-Goofy like.

Chuman

December 19, 2015 @ 04:33 amOffline

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You Don't Like Shot Lock ?
You are a Troll

Get over Yourself Dude Not everyone is going to be Happy Like you. ( Very one side way of thinking its Very disgusting )


Sorry if i (Offended You at all Very Poor of Me)

KeybladeLordSora

December 19, 2015 @ 04:33 amOffline

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Moose
What ever happened to the character portraits being animated like in the D23 2013 trailer? I kinda liked that :frown:

I liked that too....but now I'm laughing at how Sora's hair is poking out of the character portrait again :3

Lifes.Lover

December 19, 2015 @ 04:34 amOffline

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Yep, reading through again, I get it, although I find it amazing that people can even recognize the voices. I've never been that good at it, especially in a different language.

kinxsonic

December 19, 2015 @ 04:35 amOffline

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Sign
They're an exact match to the Rebirth theory :)

Unicornis / Riku: Mamoru Miyano
Anguis / Aqua: Megumi Toyoguchi
Ursus / Terra: Ryotaro Okiayu
Vulpes / Kairi: Risa Uchida
Leopardus / Ventus: Koki Uchiyama

Umm... no they're not
Unicornis: Yuichiro Umehara
Anguis: Kana Hanazawa
Still couldn't figure out the rest...
so doesn't this mean that the theory is wrong?

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his grace

December 19, 2015 @ 04:36 amOffline

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chuman
Sorry if i (Offended You at all Very Poor of Me)
its Okay I still Love Kh ( and I will Buy III ) But I won't lie if I'm salty about My fave Mechanic Not being in the game

gosoxtim

December 19, 2015 @ 04:39 amOffline

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kinxsonic
Umm... no they're not
Unicornis: Yuichiro Umehara
Anguis: Kana Hanazawa
Still couldn't figure out the rest...
so doesn't this mean that the theory is wrong?
um what are you talking about riku and aqaua are not voixced by those va?

Lifes.Lover

December 19, 2015 @ 04:40 amOffline

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Everyone's entitled to their opinion... but you're not making much of a case for why you think the way you do. It's all fine and well to state an opinion, but why not back it up? What made you hate shotlock so much in BbS and why do you think you'll hate it in KH3? Furthermore, most of these abilities don't seem like they'll be necessary to use, so you can just ignore it if you'd like.

Okay, so, I loved shotlock in BbS... but I also didn't like it. Using a well-timed shotlock often made complicated battles ridiculously easy and I hope that's not the case in KH3, like what happened with the reaction commands in KH2. KH1 still has the distinction of being the hardest game, at least in my opinion, and I want KH3 to try and break that.

While I'm okay with the idea of shotlocks in KH3, I'm disappointed about the attraction flow. It just all looks too gimmicky and like a different version of the reaction commands from KH2 and I'm wondering what real-world application it will have in the game. It could easily become overpowered and make things too easy, again, like the shotlocks.

Sign

December 19, 2015 @ 04:43 amOffline

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gosoxtim
um what are you talking about riku and aqaua are not voixced by those va?


Because all we have to go on for the voice actors are, well, the voices in the trailers, there isn't a definite agreement on who the exact cast is among the community. This will be debated until the cast is confirmed via a credible source.

I've also been arguing with someone who claims that Anguis is Kana Hanazawa as well, and Ursus is Subaru Kimura, for literally no other reason besides "he says so".

kinxsonic, would you mind explaining your choices though? Just so we can understand from your perspective :)

Wonderful

December 19, 2015 @ 04:45 amOffline

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i'm still hoping that they will ditch the cg character battle icons and return to the illustrated versions again. they just have a certain charm.

Oracle Spockanort

December 19, 2015 @ 04:45 amOffline

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kinxsonic
Umm... no they're not
Unicornis: Yuichiro Umehara
Anguis: Kana Hanazawa
Still couldn't figure out the rest...
so doesn't this mean that the theory is wrong?


Unicornis sounds exactly like Mamoru Miyano. His accent when he says "Lost Page" is pretty much all the hint anybody needs. He has a very distinctive voice.

Koki's voice is also very distinctive and Leopardus sounds exactly like him.

Chaser

December 19, 2015 @ 04:46 amOffline

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Why do you look so weird treasure? I'm chalking this up to the angle...

kinxsonic

December 19, 2015 @ 04:46 amOffline

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gosoxtim
um what are you talking about riku and aqaua are not voixced by those va?

Yes that's what I'm saying, the VA for the for foretellers are different.

Sign

December 19, 2015 @ 04:48 amOffline

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kinxsonic
Yes that's what I'm saying, the VA for the for foretellers are different.


Will you please explain why you went with Umehara and Hanazawa so we can try to understand from your perspective?

KeybladeLordSora

December 19, 2015 @ 04:49 amOffline

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Lunafreya


Why do you look so weird treasure? I'm chalking this up to the angle...

Go home, treasure. You're drunk lol

Vulpeus1041

December 19, 2015 @ 04:50 amOffline

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So anguis and vulpeous are female?

Chuman

December 19, 2015 @ 04:52 amOffline

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Lunafreya


Why do you look so weird treasure? I'm chalking this up to the angle...


Why complain? She's all chest

*ba dum tss*

kinxsonic

December 19, 2015 @ 04:53 amOffline

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Master Spockanort
Unicornis sounds exactly like Mamoru Miyano. His accent when he says "Lost Page" is pretty much all the hint anybody needs. He has a very distinctive voice.

Koki's voice is also very distinctive and Leopardus sounds exactly like him.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nH-x4-LZYCg
check this video to compare Rikus & Unicornis voice
at the beginning of the video the guy on right is Yuichiro Umehara(Unicornis) and the one on the left is Mamoru Miyano(Riku)

Oracle Spockanort

December 19, 2015 @ 04:53 amOffline

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Vulpeus1041
So anguis and vulpeous are female?


Anguis and Vulpues (Master Ava) are female, yes.

gosoxtim

December 19, 2015 @ 04:53 amOffline

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Vulpeus1041
So anguis and vulpeous are female?
yeah in the kingdom hears x game is was reaveld that vulpres true name is madam ava or just ava

Hirokey123

December 19, 2015 @ 04:55 amOffline

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So I wonder what is the story with Sora using two different magic spells? One was a fireball another a fire pillar that covered him whlie the shortcut only said fire on it.

gosoxtim

December 19, 2015 @ 04:55 amOffline

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kinxsonic
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nH-x4-LZYCg
check this video to compare them
at the beginning of the video the guy on right is Yuichiro Umehara and the one on the left is Mamoru Miyano
i get what you saying here the thing the they could of tol her to change her ovice up a bit to sound ddofernt we dont how the fortellers peronalties are until we watch the movie i mean each forteller peronality could be difernt from the characthers we know

Sign

December 19, 2015 @ 05:00 amOffline

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gosoxtim
yeah in the kingdom hears x game is was reaveld that vulpres true name is madam ava or just ava


Her name is Ava. Madam/Master is just the title used by other characters when referring to her.

Oracle Spockanort

December 19, 2015 @ 05:01 amOffline

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Hirokey123
So I wonder what is the story with Sora using two different magic spells? One was a fireball another a fire pillar that covered him whlie the shortcut only said fire on it.


Magic is now contextual, so it changes depending on the enemies and environment. We don't really know how the variations can be activated...but its similar to how blizzard could be used to make a railing for Sora to slide on and use to propel himself onto a wall.

Chuman

December 19, 2015 @ 05:01 amOffline

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Master Spockanort
Anguis and Vulpues (Master Ava) are female, yes.


Ew. I can handle darkness but not cooties

gosoxtim

December 19, 2015 @ 05:04 amOffline

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well it good to know i been working with past kairi lol :)

Vulpeus1041

December 19, 2015 @ 05:04 amOffline

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If mickey once met aqua in the realm of darkness, why the fuck is she still there!

Wonderful

December 19, 2015 @ 05:05 amOffline

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Vulpeus1041
If mickey once met aqua in the realm of darkness, why the diddly is she still there!

because he's incompetent.

Chuman

December 19, 2015 @ 05:07 amOffline

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Vulpeus1041
If mickey once met aqua in the realm of darkness, why the fuck is she still there!


Because his short arms and legs cannot carry someone out, duh.

Oracle Spockanort

December 19, 2015 @ 05:10 amOffline

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Vulpeus1041
If mickey once met aqua in the realm of darkness, why the fuck is she still there!


Because Mickey is this series' Yoda AKA he does stuff then leaves and conveniently forgets.

gosoxtim

December 19, 2015 @ 05:12 amOffline

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Master Spockanort
Because Mickey is this series' Yoda AKA he does stuff then leaves and conveniently forgets.
yeah preey much lol good comparison

Vulpeus1041

December 19, 2015 @ 05:13 amOffline

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This bbs2, blabbing Bullshit story, will explain why mickey just left her there, femanons will say she didn't want to get saved by a man

Wonderful

December 19, 2015 @ 05:19 amOffline

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Vulpeus1041
This bbs2, blabbing Bullshit story, will explain why mickey just left her there, femanons will say she didn't want to get saved by a man

Chuman

December 19, 2015 @ 05:20 amOffline

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Vulpeus1041
This bbs2, blabbing Bullshit story, will explain why mickey just left her there, femanons will say she didn't want to get saved by a man


Can you, uh, rephrase that. I see words but no correlation to each other

Antifa Lockhart

December 19, 2015 @ 05:22 amOffline

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Vulpeus1041
This bbs2, blabbing Bullshit story, will explain why mickey just left her there, femanons will say she didn't want to get saved by a man


Vulpeus1041

December 19, 2015 @ 05:25 amOffline

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Why oh why didn't mickey save aqua

gosoxtim

December 19, 2015 @ 05:27 amOffline

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Vulpeus1041
Why oh why didn't mickey save aqua
we wont know until we played the game to his story told

Oracle Spockanort

December 19, 2015 @ 05:27 amOffline

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Vulpeus1041
This bbs2, blabbing Bullshit story, will explain why mickey just left her there, femanons will say she didn't want to get saved by a man


Lonbilly

December 19, 2015 @ 05:28 amOffline

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Shotlocks? In my KH3? It's more likely than you think.

No but on a serious note, I'm 100% starting to believe 2.8 Aqua has no face and the entire demo will only be her from behind and all cutscenes will be "stylized" to where we never see her face and it will be a running gag throughout the rest of the series. Rip HD Aqua face hopes and dreams.

When I heard the chi parts, omg. I knew the theory was right because the voices sounded very, very similar. Although I wish we could have seen the character designs as well.

DDD looks fabulous, as always. KH3 looks cool too. I'd like to see some more of it in action with the actual menu, however. Also, I love how one of the YouTube comments said this game has been in development for 13 years. And they were being serious. I just. Omfg. I cannot even

Chuman

December 19, 2015 @ 05:29 amOffline

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Kh news = time for everyone to be passive aggressive

Lonbilly

December 19, 2015 @ 05:29 amOffline

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Master Spockanort
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chuman
Can you, uh, rephrase that. I see words but no correlation to each other
Wonderful


I really appreciate these posts so much <3

Vulpeus1041

December 19, 2015 @ 05:31 amOffline

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I didn't notice, is there a release date?

Oracle Spockanort

December 19, 2015 @ 05:32 amOffline

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Vulpeus1041
I didn't notice, is there a release date?


2016 like always

Wonderful

December 19, 2015 @ 05:32 amOffline

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Master Spockanort
2016 like always

for japan, anyways.
the english trailer still reads "now in development"

gosoxtim

December 19, 2015 @ 05:33 amOffline

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Wonderful
for japan, anyways.
the english trailer still reads "now in development"
no the engish descption also has 2016 as well

Lonbilly

December 19, 2015 @ 05:35 amOffline

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Pretty sure everyone will get it in 2016. It's just a matter of if they do an international release or space it out like most of the releases.

Which, honestly, I may end up spoiling myself. Like I did with Days. And BbS. And coded. And 15% of DDD but then stopped myself because I wanted to try and have patience.

Wonderful

December 19, 2015 @ 05:36 amOffline

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gosoxtim
no the engish descption also has 2016 as well

eh. they still went out of their way to change the trailer itself which just says "now in development" again.
i mean i hope the description is the accurate one. but i don't get why they'd change the card in the trailer then.

Vulpeus1041

December 19, 2015 @ 05:38 amOffline

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It's back to theories, but I did like the kh x cutscenes

Sign

December 19, 2015 @ 05:44 amOffline

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The VO guesses online are literally all over the place right now, so I don't even know what to think anymore 8D

Chuman

December 19, 2015 @ 05:48 amOffline

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Sign
The VO guesses online are literally all over the place right now, so I don't even know what to think anymore 8D


[strike]pics or it didn't happen[/strike]

gosoxtim

December 19, 2015 @ 05:48 amOffline

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Sign
The VO guesses online are literally all over the place right now, so I don't even know what to think anymore 8D
go with your gut if you think those are correct va then go with it who care what anybodly else think if you wrong then your wrong it a matter of what you think

Reagan Rayden

December 19, 2015 @ 05:49 amOffline

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It feels like between this footage of KHIII and the last they used someone who is fluent in how the game works and someone who just spams dodge roll 90% of the time while almost never using abilities. I hate that guy.

Lonbilly

December 19, 2015 @ 05:49 amOffline

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Sign
The VO guesses online are literally all over the place right now, so I don't even know what to think anymore 8D


Don't worry. All the voices were James Earl Jones. All of them

Sign

December 19, 2015 @ 05:52 amOffline

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Lonbilly
Don't worry. All the voices were James Earl Jones. All of them


This is true! <3

Chuman

December 19, 2015 @ 05:54 amOffline

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Lonbilly
Don't worry. All the voices were James Earl Jones. All of them


Sora, i am your father.

AQUUOOOOOOOOO

BlackOsprey

December 19, 2015 @ 05:56 amOffline

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chuman
Sora, i am your father.

AQUUOOOOOOOOO



Tho tbh I doubt Sora or anyone would really care...

Nazo

December 19, 2015 @ 05:58 amOffline

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Two things.

First off, I am blown away by this trailer. I am so happy Square essentially gave us a double-trailer. A 5 minute trailer of two games? Thank you kindly! And I could not believe how good the graphics are looking on the new engine now. Every other point until now, my initial reaction was "Uh... the graphics looks really weird." And finally, this was the first time I saw the game running and thought "Oh wow, this looks absolutely incredible." Seriously KH3 is looking GORGEOUS. I am stunned. And we got Yen Sid looking amazing, Daybreak Town in HD, shotlocks confirmed, the Marluxia-ish enemy thing, all the environments look amazing, etc etc. It's all so great. I was just staring in awe the entire time I first watched it. So good.

Secondly, fuck this fanbase, omg. I cannot believe the amount of complaining and whining I'm seeing on the social media sites. Everyone's disappointed and all "This was all they gave us? There was nothing new." What fucking trailer are they watching? Because nearly all of the KH3 footage was never seen before. Same locations? Yes, but that footage was new and it was fantastic. Ungrateful little shits complaining for a month about this, and then they finally get what they want and all they do is cry. The casual KH fans are so annoying it drives me up the wall. "KH1 and KH2 are the only relevant games, where's the release date, show us the trailers and then oh those trailers sucked, shut up and give us kh3 no one cares about 2.8." God, I just.... aghhh.

Vulpeus1041

December 19, 2015 @ 06:01 amOffline

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I know right, nothing is good enough for these people, that's what your saying right

Nazo
Two things.

First off, I am blown away by this trailer. I am so happy Square essentially gave us a double-trailer. A 5 minute trailer of two games? Thank you kindly! And I could not believe how good the graphics are looking on the new engine now. Every other point until now, my initial reaction was "Uh... the graphics looks really weird." And finally, this was the first time I saw the game running and thought "Oh wow, this looks absolutely incredible." Seriously KH3 is looking GORGEOUS. I am stunned. And we got Yen Sid looking amazing, Daybreak Town in HD, shotlocks confirmed, the Marluxia-ish enemy thing, all the environments look amazing, etc etc. It's all so great. I was just staring in awe the entire time I first watched it. So good.

Secondly, diddly this fanbase, omg. I cannot believe the amount of complaining and whining I'm seeing on the social media sites. Everyone's disappointed and all "This was all they gave us? There was nothing new." What diddlying trailer are they watching? Because nearly all of the KH3 footage was never seen before. Same locations? Yes, but that footage was new and it was fantastic. Ungrateful little shits complaining for a month about this, and then they finally get what they want and all they do is cry. The casual KH fans are so annoying it drives me up the wall. "KH1 and KH2 are the only relevant games, where's the release date, show us the trailers and then oh those trailers sucked, shut up and give us kh3 no one cares about 2.8." God, I just.... aghhh.


Everybody looks like they are made of plastic, unreal 4 should have made them look "real", master yen sid looked weird, don't get me started on useless mickey and aqua.

Oracle Spockanort

December 19, 2015 @ 06:10 amOffline

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Vulpeus1041
Everybody looks like they are made of plastic, unreal 4 should have made them look "real", master yen sid looked weird, don't get me started on useless mickey and aqua.


Unreal Engine doesn't have to make anything look real. Street Fighter V is on UE4 and I don't see anything there that looks even close to real.

Yen Sid looks fine. The problem is that there is some part of the texturing missing on the characters that makes them look shiny and also doesn't have shadows from the lighting yet.

Do not double post. The edit button is there for your perusal for a reason.

Lonbilly

December 19, 2015 @ 06:14 amOffline

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chuman
Sora, i am your father.

AQUUOOOOOOOOO


The true reason we have not seen Aqua's face. It's all starting to fall into place now.

limit

December 19, 2015 @ 06:16 amOffline

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Hot damn, the new graphics look absolutely beautiful! Wasn't a fan of shotlocks in BBS due to how overpowered they could get, but they look SEXY AS HELL here.
And of course I come back here after a while and see Rebirth theory is a thing along with Tech points being shown. You guys are insane, haha.

Oh, 2.8 trailer also got me squeeing. Never knew how happy I'd feel seeing DDD again despite how contrived it got, and that on top of full HD scenes of 0.2BBS was more than enough ;v;

Lifes.Lover

December 19, 2015 @ 06:22 amOffline

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I keep reminding myself that it will look a ton better in the final product. I mean, it looks gorgeous, but Yen Sid does look a little like plastic and oh my god, Mickey's ears! They look like paper. But other than that, I'm very happy. Hell, I finally broke down and asked for a ps4 for Xmas because of 2.8, so... I was all set to wait until there was an actual release date for KH3, because surely by then it would go down in price. But nope, yet again, Squeenix is squeezing my wallet dry and forcing me into another console purchase.

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his grace

December 19, 2015 @ 06:53 amOffline

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Nazo
Two things.
Secondly, diddly this fanbase, omg. I cannot believe the amount of complaining and whining I'm seeing on the social media sites. Everyone's disappointed and all "This was all they gave us? There was nothing new." What diddlying trailer are they watching? Because nearly all of the KH3 footage was never seen before. Same locations? Yes, but that footage was new and it was fantastic. Ungrateful little shits complaining for a month about this, and then they finally get what they want and all they do is cry. The casual KH fans are so annoying it drives me up the wall. "KH1 and KH2 are the only relevant games, where's the release date, show us the trailers and then oh those trailers sucked, shut up and give us kh3 no one cares about 2.8." God, I just.... aghhh.
I don't Know what other people are saying ( I Liked this trailer) The only thing I have issue with is That Shot Locks are back with No Drive forms other then That The Trailer was Good :smile:

Oathkeyper97

December 19, 2015 @ 07:01 amOffline

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Nazo
Two things.

First off, I am blown away by this trailer. I am so happy Square essentially gave us a double-trailer. A 5 minute trailer of two games? Thank you kindly! And I could not believe how good the graphics are looking on the new engine now. Every other point until now, my initial reaction was "Uh... the graphics looks really weird." And finally, this was the first time I saw the game running and thought "Oh wow, this looks absolutely incredible." Seriously KH3 is looking GORGEOUS. I am stunned. And we got Yen Sid looking amazing, Daybreak Town in HD, shotlocks confirmed, the Marluxia-ish enemy thing, all the environments look amazing, etc etc. It's all so great. I was just staring in awe the entire time I first watched it. So good.

Secondly, diddly this fanbase, omg. I cannot believe the amount of complaining and whining I'm seeing on the social media sites. Everyone's disappointed and all "This was all they gave us? There was nothing new." What diddlying trailer are they watching? Because nearly all of the KH3 footage was never seen before. Same locations? Yes, but that footage was new and it was fantastic. Ungrateful little shits complaining for a month about this, and then they finally get what they want and all they do is cry. The casual KH fans are so annoying it drives me up the wall. "KH1 and KH2 are the only relevant games, where's the release date, show us the trailers and then oh those trailers sucked, shut up and give us kh3 no one cares about 2.8." God, I just.... aghhh.


I KNOW, RIGHT?!?!?! AUGH, I friggin' hate people sometimes. I, along with the more dedicated fanbase, absolutely loved the trailer :)

MATGSY

December 19, 2015 @ 07:22 amOffline

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Boy, my 7 guardians theory was WAY off.

BlackOsprey

December 19, 2015 @ 07:25 amOffline

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*chokes on drink*

Weeell, I guess it would be possible to summon Hitler. Donald Duck was in a short that involved the Nazis, wasn't he? I think they could exist... sort of..

Muke

December 19, 2015 @ 08:00 amOffline

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Waking up and seeing this trailer was so awesome. The trailer itself was awesome!!
BTW Shotlocks confirmed. And did you guys notice, that the Menu changes when Sora is attacking the Nobodies?
Like, it goes from EX3 -> Max. Everything is a little bit zoomed out and there is a color change. It went from blue to brown/yellow-ish.

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I really think the part with the Nobodies is more developed. Like, I noticed something else.
See the running animation in Rapunzel's world with the blue Menu. He runs like an idiot. Sorry. It looks like shit.

And then, when the changes come, he runs like in KH II -- holding his Keyblade in both hands.

drumstickwielder

December 19, 2015 @ 08:11 amOffline

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I'm really appreciating the amount of detail and textures in the game/footage, like the ground in Yensid's office, Aqua's hair, plant life in Tangled, and the sky in Mysterious Tower. HYPE

Also, I read the rebirth theory but can't remember, was part of it that these foretellers would become some of the 13 darknesses or was that a separate theory. Because, like, that theory made a lot of sense but I can't even believe that it might be canon. I don't know a whole lot about Chi though outside of that theory.

GGDude00

December 19, 2015 @ 08:37 amOffline

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Hirokey123
It doesn't necessarily mean the rebirth theory is true they very easily could be just summoned out the tome of prophecy which I think is what actually happened myself. It parallels how the journal is protected from people inside, Data Sora and Data Riku. Here I believe that the master in order to save the world and have suitable guards for the tome of prophecy decided to summoned forth the guardians of light from the tome of prophecy, copies of them specifically like the worlds and people like Snow White are.


I can personally understand this. Besides, looking back at the game itself, I question how the events of Alice in Wonderland can occur at the time BEFORE the Keyblade War since Sora had visited Wonderland AFTER the War. It wouldn't make sense to see Alice's adventure in Wonderland repeat twice. There's also King Mickey, Donald, and Goofy. They were shown in Kingdom Hearts X as well.

Also, I'm not really up for this Rebirth Theory. To me, it just seems to make TAV, Riku, and Kairi really less interesting, knowing that they have to go through the goddamn never-ending cycle of life and death, over and over again. Ugh, I feel agitated...

Seighart

December 19, 2015 @ 08:40 amOffline

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I'm not entirely sold on the Rebirth Theory just because the Foretellers have the same voice actors. If that indeed turns out to be the case, then we potentially have a never ending cycle with no true death. Birth by Sleep will have an entirely different meaning.

Hirokey123

December 19, 2015 @ 08:41 amOffline

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I mean to say if they are the past versions of the characters then there was no reason for the master to go to such lengths to hide their identities. He gave them new names and instructions on keeping their faces hidden. He clearly doesn't want anyone to know their actual identities which means something about their identity would be a give away to people IN-story not just out of story.

I mean even more so this series is not about Death that's something Nomura had said. That's why we have this developed mythos but have completely skipped over death. They either never talk about death when people die or it's not "true death" it's sleep, vanish, split, etc... they literally jump through hoop after hoop to never acknowledge real death. Reincarnation would break that because that would be something they have to explore and I just don't see that happening. Especially given Nomura's track record who if he can make a clone of someone and get away with it he will.

LightUpTheSky452

December 19, 2015 @ 08:46 amOffline

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Wonderful
you know hayden voiced xion in BBS and DDD right?


Yeah, but at this point Alyson Stoner has done all the voice over work for Xion in Days itself, as well as the cinematic version of it, which is more than Hayden's done for her at all (as Hayden's only voiced two Xion lines, really).

I don't think it'd be any more fair to rip Alyson away from voicing Xion now (when the Days cinematic is the most recent Xion voice work, even), than it would to have Alyson replace Hayden as Kairi.

Hayden as done far more voicing for Kairi, and Alyson for Xion, than any other way...

And this reply is turning into a rambling mess (and I don't even know where I'm going with it anymore), so I'm going to shut up now and try (and fail) to go to sleep. LOL. :)

Chaser

December 19, 2015 @ 08:51 amOffline

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I really hope that when it comes down to it they hire Hayden for Kairi and Alyson for Xion. I know that Xion is meant to share Kairi's voice but I just feel like it'd only be right for both voice actresses to get a role.

SentimentOfTruth

December 19, 2015 @ 08:52 amOffline

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Well, this trailer has been one big adventure.

Yen Sid looks pretty damn cool, I have to say. Riku and Kairi still look a little odd to me in the 0.2 segment, but I just assume that's down to the lighting, at this point; they don't quite look like they're meant to be in the same room. Mickey looks much better once he starts talking, though, so I imagine that the same will happen for Riku and Kairi, too. And I love the sheer attention to detail throughout the entire room; the cracks and scuffs on the walls and pots, the uneven texture of the stony floor, the sea of stars, and the screws holding the fabric onto Yen Sid's chair... the team have certainly gone out of their way to make it feel like an actual environment. The same can be said for the room being panned over for the Back Cover segment, which I find very interesting; I don't know much about Chi, and am waiting for Unchained to move west before I play it, but that's just because I don't want to have to use translation guides and jump through hoops to understand and play a game.

There's not as much to say about 3DHD, other than that it looks considerably prettier; they've definitely gone out of their way to improve the textures, which I can appreciate. Some of the models look a bit better, as well.

And then, of course, we have the juiciest part, which is the KHIII segment. The more I see it, the better it gets; I love watching Sora run around, Dodge Rolling, using magic and taking on enemies. It looks like they've given him additional field abilities, one of which looks a bit like Doubleflight. The environments are gorgeous, and the enemies all have a distinct look to them. Also, I'm so happy they brought back the Elemental enemies from the original game; as much of a pain as they were to fight back then because KH1's aerial combat was a bit iffy, I liked them a lot. The potential return of Tech is another huge plus, too! Sora's attacks look very fluid, but I hope that basic attacks function as they did in previous games - with Sora starting off with basic three-hit combos, and gradually gaining Abilities that increase the number of hits and allow for new types of attacks to be unleashed as the player progresses. I want to earn the right to use flashy combos, rather than just be given them right off the bat.
The return of Shotlocks... I'm not sure how I feel about that. They looked fine in the trailer, and never had much of a problem with them in Birth by Sleep, either. I just don't want them to be a mechanic that winds up being far stronger than basic attacks, and supersedes/makes them superfluous them as a result.
Oh, and also... does anyone else think that Sora's out-of-battle run is a bit too fast? It's the kind of run that says "Oh God, I can't miss the train, nonono!". It's not any sort of deal-breaker, obviously, but simply a insignificant nit-pick that I spotted.

As for this Rebirth theory... I don't particularly want to pay any mind to it. That's no offense to anyone who does, of course, or to the person who originally wrote it - I've read it several times, and think it's a good theory. But I'd rather not go putting all my eggs in one basket just because a bunch of voices sound the same as someone else's. If it turns out to be correct when official materials come to light that confirm such, then that's that. And if not, that's that too. I'd prefer not to go over-analyzing something we know so little about, and running around in a panic thinking that it's true purely based on voices. Theories, after all, are called such for a reason.

Chaser

December 19, 2015 @ 09:01 amOffline

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SentimentOfTruth


Yen Sid looks pretty damn cool, I have to say. Riku and Kairi still look a little odd to me in the 0.2 segment, but I just assume that's down to the lighting, at this point; they don't quite look like they're meant to be in the same room. Mickey looks much better once he starts talking, though, so I imagine that the same will happen for Riku and Kairi, too.

It unfortunately features one of my biggest issues from DDD; characters standing motionless with a blank stare while Yen Sid talks. Combine that with unfinished textures and whatnot and the start of 0.2 looks a little bland. I have faith that the finished product will ship with it looking great, but I do fear that it might be rushed to meet a 2016 deadline.




And I love the sheer attention to detail throughout the entire room; the cracks and scuffs on the walls and pots, the uneven texture of the stony floor, the sea of stars, and the screws holding the fabric onto Yen Sid's chair... the team have certainly gone out of their way to make it feel like an actual environment.


I agree. I paused at one point and there's just so much detail to take in. A lot of care and attention has gone into creating this environment. Makes me wonder why they released a screenshot last month showing the worst part of Yen Sid's room when 180 degrees the other way had such beauty.




The same can be said for the room being panned over for the Back Cover segment, which I find very interesting; I don't know much about Chi, and am waiting for Unchained to move west before I play it, but that's just because I don't want to have to use translation guides and jump through hoops to understand and play a game.


If it helps, Sign got screencaps to show how faithful the 3D adaption of the room is from X;




My only wish for Back Cover now (because I have faith that this will be an excellent movie) is I don't want the footage to just be dialogue over various camera angles on an empty room.

king_mickey rule

December 19, 2015 @ 11:45 amOffline

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Poor Mickey, what have they done to your mouth?

Man, those models and the shading on those models isn't doing it for me at all. I thought my concern would be an early-dev concern, but I see no progress being made on that department. During battle everything looks fine, but the close-ups really take me out of it because of how the models look.

I liked the interaction between Sora and the environment, but that part in the waterfall didn't look all that good. Besides the weird animation loop, I'm guessing you can't control Sora in the river stream until he's landed at the bottom of the river again. Meaning: fall into it and you can't do shit about it, while enemies can probably still hit you. A potential game-breaking mechanic, if you ask me. Or at least a very annoying one). The lack of obvious flinching on the enemies' side also quite concerns me. I want to able to feel my hits. It's one of my concerns for Final Fantasy XV as well. I did notice an improvement on the animation when Sora enters the area with Rapunzel's Tower (there was a "stutter" in Sora's movement during that scene in the E3 trailer, which is now gone).

I liked the Shotlock and especially the way it looked. One thing they've really nailed in KH3 so far, are the particle effects. They look amazing. That and the environments that, for the most part, look gorgeous. There's already a lot going on gameplay-wise, though, so I hope they can mantain some sort of balance, because it looks quite overwhelming with all the mechanics showcased so far. It's gonna be a tough cookie balancing it out properly and making it feel as fluid as it should feel.

But yeah, I have some big concerns about the model-work and the animations. Hopefully by the next trailer we can see some progress on that end.

Muke

December 19, 2015 @ 12:43 pmOffline

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I just noticed that REVENGE VALUE is back.
I am so happy about that right now.

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I saw these in a video, and I don't know what to think about the heartless now...
Heartless #1
Heartless #2

rokudamia2

December 19, 2015 @ 01:11 pmOffline

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D

Muke
I just noticed that REVENGE VALUE is back.
I am so happy about that right now.

EDIT

I saw these in a video, and I don't know what to think about the heartless now...
Heartless #1
Heartless #2



You mean this video?

[video=youtube;9Xv9scESDOk]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Xv9scESDOk[/video]
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It's a good video I recommend.

hemmoheikkinen

December 19, 2015 @ 01:27 pmOffline

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That was interesting. I think one my biggest concern about III`s combat is the same thing that others have brought up, the flinching of enemies. Some of the enemies don`t flinch at all, and just suck up you hits. Some of the swings of the Keyblade aren`t enough heavy looking. I think the hits had a good balance with the trailer we had two years ago, but well maybe things when the game is developed further, and I still enjoyed DDD very much even thou the flinching was a bit off. Despite some of my concerns, the combat looks really cool. The areas are not flat and I am really liking that.

Some of the models still look little too plastic, but I think this is because the game is still being made.
When in 2.8 they zoomed to Riku and Kairi, in a way it shows how much we have progressed from the PS2 days. The models need some work, but I am still liking what I am seeing. Kairi and Riku looked like two breathing living persons. Little sad that we did not see Aqua gameplay or her face.

Back Cover looks very interesting. I am not sure how I feel about the Rebirth thing. At the same time it seems cool, but I feel like I have been spoiled now, but that is the fault of my own curiosity. I don`t know... I kinda hope it is not true, but that won`t ruin the game for me.

The visuals look freaking amazing! Like other have noticed there is a lot of detail in the game. To me that is a sign that the developers are really putting their heart and soul into the game, and that makes me very glad. All thou this has always been the case with KH games, so why change now. Yen Sid`s tower, my god that looked great.

So in a nutshell I could say that there are things that worry me a little, but there is a lot of stuff that I like.

hemmoheikkinen

December 19, 2015 @ 01:52 pmOffline

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Dean did a good job once again. Man there was a lot of interesting and good stuff that I missed. Looking good.

EDIT: Oh sorry for double post, my mistake :(

WaveK89

December 19, 2015 @ 02:21 pmOffline

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I just can't get over how fluid Sora's battle style is. Between magic, combos, and well combos utilizing magic. Free flow, attraction flow, and shotlock. All these special effects between Sora and enemies among the beautiful environment. Some might say there wasn't much added with the new trailer, but I see many small details which impressed me. Gorgeous!

I do find the plastic appearance to be slightly off-putting, but not so much that I can't enjoy it. It will grow on me, no problem. I haven't much knowledge with Chi and their stories, but I'm liking what this rebirth theory is all about. Everything is connected, our hearts are connected, blah blah blah. Sorry, I'm just really psyched for 2.8 and 3.

Saken

December 19, 2015 @ 02:53 pmOffline

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So the voices of the 5 foretellers that speak while the camera is revolving around the platform are the same as Riku, Aqua, Terra, Kairi and Ven but the last one to speak was who? A new voice?

Moose

December 19, 2015 @ 04:02 pmOffline

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Kamehameha!

FudgemintGuardian

December 19, 2015 @ 04:40 pmOffline

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OhmyGlobohmyGlobohmyGlob!

-Yes Sid looks fantastic!
-Mickey had botax along with his facelift.
-Riku and Kairi still look unfinished.
-Show yo face already, Aqua! I can't take it anymore!!
-REBIRTH THEORY AGAGABLGGFHG!!
-The Marluxia Nobody is so pretty!
-SHOTLOCK!
-Stupid river! *shakes fist at river*
-Mysterious Tower's everything is beautiful!


Lunafreya
Huh well there you go.




Don't like how it just snaps between the two though.
I love the angry looks Goofy and Donald are giving. Sora looks vaguely annoyed.

Lunafreya


Why do you look so weird treasure? I'm chalking this up to the angle...
Looks like a cardboard cutout~

MATGSY

Boy, my 7 guardians theory was WAY off.
Well, Nomura, you finally had a twist no one saw coming.XD

BlackOsprey

December 19, 2015 @ 05:19 pmOffline

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Moose
Kamehameha!


Looks like a sparkly Ragnarok.

Am I the only one who's missing the 2-D portraits for the HP bars? Come to think, we haven't gotten any official Nomura art of KH3 Sora yet, have we? I've always preferred the look of the 2D Nomura art over the models.

king_mickey rule

December 19, 2015 @ 05:24 pmOffline

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BlackOsprey
Am I the only one who's missing the 2-D portraits for the HP bars? Come to think, we haven't gotten any official Nomura art of KH3 Sora yet, have we? I've always preferred the look of the 2D Nomura art over the models.


Nope, you're not alone. I hope we get to choose between models and 2D-art, just like we could choose between menu styles in KH2.

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DanX

December 19, 2015 @ 05:59 pmOffline

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BlackOsprey
Looks like a sparkly Ragnarok.

Am I the only one who's missing the 2-D portraits for the HP bars? Come to think, we haven't gotten any official Nomura art of KH3 Sora yet, have we? I've always preferred the look of the 2D Nomura art over the models.

There's this https://twitter.com/KHUX_PR/status/639273926586032128

Antifa Lockhart

December 19, 2015 @ 06:34 pmOffline

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LightUpTheSky452
Yeah, but at this point Alyson Stoner has done all the voice over work for Xion in Days itself, as well as the cinematic version of it, which is more than Hayden's done for her at all (as Hayden's only voiced two Xion lines, really).

I don't think it'd be any more fair to rip Alyson away from voicing Xion now (when the Days cinematic is the most recent Xion voice work, even), than it would to have Alyson replace Hayden as Kairi.

Hayden as done far more voicing for Kairi, and Alyson for Xion, than any other way...


I mean, if one has played on then they've played the other. The only reason Alyson was cast at all is because she sounds exactly like a younger Kairi. (before anyone disagrees, here's Alyson dubbing over one of Hayden's lines: https://youtu.be/y_0tCkqEjFc?t=28m36s)

Whenever Alyson played Xion, she played Kairi in flashbacks and in fact, Alyson's introduction to the series was playing Kairi in Re:CoM. And if you want to get really pedantic, Alyson's played Kairi in Re:CoM, Days/Days Cinematic, while Hayden's played Kairi in 1, 2 and BBS. While Alyson's only played Xion in Days, Hayden has been associated with the role longer. I guess the final nail here will be what happens in 0.2/backcover.

There just isn't supposed to be a distinction between the two and honestly, there never will be. It's not really about what's "fair?" It's a job. They're grown-ups.

Chuman

December 19, 2015 @ 08:20 pmOffline

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DanX
There's this https://twitter.com/KHUX_PR/status/639273926586032128


With some coloring and polish, that would be pretty damn dapper tbh. I can't imagine a kh game without a 2D portrait but i guess times are changing.

Unusual1290

December 19, 2015 @ 11:37 pmOffline

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Even though it's only Yen Sid, it's so cool to see a human Disney character with the new graphics! My biggest worry was that they would look out of place with the main and FF characters, but judging from him, they don't! I love how the engine makes things look more realistic but still cartoony at the same time! Looks PERFECT!

Chuman

December 20, 2015 @ 12:00 amOffline

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breaktheice16
Even though it's only Yen Sid, it's so cool to see a human Disney character with the new graphics! My biggest worry was that they would look out of place with the main and FF characters, but judging from him, they don't! I love how the engine makes things look more realistic but still cartoony at the same time! Looks PERFECT!


They did a really good job on the graphics, I'm just hoping to see a substantial gameplay clip soon (bu that i mean one clip of continuous gameplay and not several smaller clips slapped together.

Chuman

December 20, 2015 @ 12:02 amOffline

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breaktheice16
Even though it's only Yen Sid, it's so cool to see a human Disney character with the new graphics! My biggest worry was that they would look out of place with the main and FF characters, but judging from him, they don't! I love how the engine makes things look more realistic but still cartoony at the same time! Looks PERFECT!


They did a really good job on the graphics, I'm just hoping to see a substantial gameplay clip soon (bu that i mean one clip of continuous gameplay and not several smaller clips slapped together).

Rydgea

December 20, 2015 @ 03:50 amOffline

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Omg the environments look fantastic. I was especially living for how fleshed out Mysterious Tower looks. 8D

I'm not too worried since the game is still in development, but the characters, particularly in the opening sequence with Riku, Mickey, Kairi and Yen Sid look just plain gaudy to me. Think rubber figures a la Gumby. Judging by how Sora and the gang look in comparison, I'd say they're still working on the models? Hopefully.

Or perhaps my eyes wil just have to adjust...

Wander

December 20, 2015 @ 09:10 amOffline

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I'm still trying to grasp the fact that KINGDOM HEARTS HD 2.8 FINAL CHAPTER PROLOGUE is an actual thing rofl.

Muke

December 20, 2015 @ 03:29 pmOffline

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Rydgea
Omg the environments look fantastic. I was especially living for how fleshed out Mysterious Tower looks. 8D

I'm not too worried since the game is still in development, but the characters, particularly in the opening sequence with Riku, Mickey, Kairi and Yen Sid look just plain gaudy to me. Think rubber figures a la Gumby. Judging by how Sora and the gang look in comparison, I'd say they're still working on the models? Hopefully.

Or perhaps my eyes wil just have to adjust...

I am sure the final version of both games will look stunning as diddly. Like, seriously.
I myself don't like the Models, to be honest. Guess we'll just have to wait and see, right?

maleficentfan123

December 20, 2015 @ 04:36 pmOffline

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So I've never been around the community for the release of a game before, so I'm not sure how this works.

Relative to 2.8...I guess I would think that if they were aiming for a 2016 release (even a Q4 release) that we would have more information at this point than we do. Am I wrong in thinking that? If that's the case, what are the chances that 2.8 gets pushed back to 2017?

Chuman

December 20, 2015 @ 04:43 pmOffline

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maleficentfan123
So I've never been around the community for the release of a game before, so I'm not sure how this works.

Relative to 2.8...I guess I would think that if they were aiming for a 2016 release (even a Q4 release) that we would have more information at this point than we do. Am I wrong in thinking that? If that's the case, what are the chances that 2.8 gets pushed back to 2017?


I can imagine the hate so i don't want to see that happen

king_mickey rule

December 20, 2015 @ 04:45 pmOffline

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maleficentfan123
So I've never been around the community for the release of a game before, so I'm not sure how this works.

Relative to 2.8...I guess I would think that if they were aiming for a 2016 release (even a Q4 release) that we would have more information at this point than we do. Am I wrong in thinking that? If that's the case, what are the chances that 2.8 gets pushed back to 2017?


I'd say the chances of that happening are slim to none. But I wouldn't really care if it did happen, 2016 is already filled with awesomeness. I can wait.

Chuman

December 20, 2015 @ 07:22 pmOffline

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king_mickey rule
I'd say the chances of that happening are slim to none. But I wouldn't really care if it did happen, 2016 is already filled with awesomeness. I can wait.


Not tryna be a baby

But I'd probably die

Dr_Mario64

December 20, 2015 @ 10:07 pmOffline

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breaktheice16
Even though it's only Yen Sid, it's so cool to see a human Disney character with the new graphics! My biggest worry was that they would look out of place with the main and FF characters, but judging from him, they don't! I love how the engine makes things look more realistic but still cartoony at the same time! Looks PERFECT!


Hey, credit where it's due, Yen Sid's looking pretty fine! I mean, did you even see how his beard sways?! :P

Chuman

December 20, 2015 @ 10:08 pmOffline

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Dr_Mario64
Hey, credit where it's due, Yen Sid's looking pretty fine! I mean, did you even see how his beard sways?! :P


Old man pendulum shows off his wisdom.

VoidGear.

December 20, 2015 @ 11:54 pmOffline

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Did Yen Sid have a vacation in Spain...?
The characters still look weird to me...Like puppets. OHHH. :p

Chuman

December 21, 2015 @ 12:57 amOffline

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VoidGear.
Did Yen Sid have a vacation in Spain...?
The characters still look weird to me...Like puppets. OHHH. :p


I don't understand. What do you mean by that?

VoidGear.

December 21, 2015 @ 01:31 amOffline

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chuman
I don't understand. What do you mean by that?


I was told that I could best describe it as the look of clay. Like..that stuff you can knead in your hands to make nice figurines...or just random balls of clay because you're too stupid to create art.
They just...I accepted them looking cartoony, even right next to Capt'n Jack Sparrow, but especially Kairi looks weird to me. I cant really name it.

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ultima-demi

December 21, 2015 @ 01:34 amOffline

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Wish they showed more of those melee attacks with the cannon keyblade transformation.

maleficentfan123

December 21, 2015 @ 01:57 amOffline

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maleficentfan123
So I've never been around the community for the release of a game before, so I'm not sure how this works.

Relative to 2.8...I guess I would think that if they were aiming for a 2016 release (even a Q4 release) that we would have more information at this point than we do. Am I wrong in thinking that? If that's the case, what are the chances that 2.8 gets pushed back to 2017?


chuman
I can imagine the hate so i don't want to see that happen


king_mickey rule
I'd say the chances of that happening are slim to none. But I wouldn't really care if it did happen, 2016 is already filled with awesomeness. I can wait.


chuman
Not tryna be a baby

But I'd probably die


Hmmm...well, hopefully it doesn't happen. I know 3 is still a ways away, but hopefully we get 2.8 by next year still. It just feels like we haven't heard much about it at all. Did we hear much about 1.5 and 2.5 by this point?

Wonderful

December 21, 2015 @ 02:06 amOffline

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the game definitely looked better on luminous, but the weird thing about it so far is that, idk. the models do look really rough, and part of me thinks it is just the new art style and they aren't actually going to change it much (i mean they clearly think it looks good enough to share with the world as representative of the game) which would suck. but then i think back to the xehanort/eraqus conversation which i think we all mostly agree looks great so it's like, what is it. why do all of the other models/cutscenes not look as good as that one?

Lonbilly

December 21, 2015 @ 02:29 amOffline

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I feel like I'm in the minority that is fine with everyone's models (mostly) except for Eraqus and Lil X.

Wonderful

December 21, 2015 @ 02:30 amOffline

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Lonbilly
I feel like I'm in the minority that is fine with everyone's models (mostly) except for Eraqus and Lil X.

o ____ O

Chuman

December 21, 2015 @ 04:19 amOffline

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Lonbilly
I feel like I'm in the minority that is fine with everyone's models (mostly) except for Eraqus and Lil X.


Uh. Yeah. The finished, nicer models look worse than wax figures apparently.

Muke

December 21, 2015 @ 04:44 amOffline

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This'd be so better

Chuman

December 21, 2015 @ 04:46 amOffline

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Muke

This'd be so better


Rofl cross eyes.

He's keeping watch over both mickey and kairi at once, glancing at riku with every turn of the head.

Recon

December 21, 2015 @ 07:54 amOffline

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Pardon my ignorance, but do we know the world/area Sora is fighting in with the tower and waterfall?

Also, the scene with Riku awakening Sora's heart is new right? or is it old?

I am happy we got this trailer. It also seems like I need to replay DDD.

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ultima-demi

December 21, 2015 @ 09:37 amOffline

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Recon
Pardon my ignorance, but do we know the world/area Sora is fighting in with the tower and waterfall?

Also, the scene with Riku awakening Sora's heart is new right? or is it old?

I am happy we got this trailer. It also seems like I need to replay DDD.

The world with the tower is tangled and that scene is old.

Alpha Baymax

December 21, 2015 @ 01:56 pmOffline

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Muke

This'd be so better


Kind of embarrassing on Square Enix's part on how an individual made Yen Sid look better than an entire company did...

shuyin_zer0

December 21, 2015 @ 04:44 pmOffline

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They look more and more like moving action figures with each trailer :/

Wonderful

December 21, 2015 @ 04:49 pmOffline

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Recon
Also, the scene with Riku awakening Sora's heart is new right? or is it old?.

It's from the near the end of KH3D.

Chuman

December 21, 2015 @ 06:04 pmOffline

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Alpha Baymax
Kind of embarrassing on Square Enix's part on how an individual made Yen Sid look better than an entire company did...


I don't understand what you mean

FudgemintGuardian

December 21, 2015 @ 07:09 pmOffline

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shuyin_zer0
They look more and more like moving action figures with each trailer :/
Come the end of KHIII it is revealed that the game was just Andy's take on how KHIII could go down.

Wonderful

December 21, 2015 @ 07:12 pmOffline

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honestly, while i definitely think it can and should be improved, the more i look at it the more and more it blends in more and doesn't look nearly as jarring and awful as it does on first glance. if they aren't made better by release, i could see myself coming accustom to it early on in the game when playing at least :/

SentimentOfTruth

December 21, 2015 @ 08:18 pmOffline

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FudgemintGuardian
Come the end of KHIII it is revealed that the game was just Andy's take on how KHIII could go down.

If Kingdom Hearts ever happened to have alternate gag/joke endings, I'd be so disappointed if this wasn't one of them.

C.C.

December 22, 2015 @ 08:16 pmOffline

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Darn. Was hoping they'd share a few keyblade transformation bread crumbs. Better luck next time I suppose.

Wonderful
honestly, while i definitely think it can and should be improved, the more i look at it the more and more it blends in more and doesn't look nearly as jarring and awful as it does on first glance. if they aren't made better by release, i could see myself coming accustom to it early on in the game when playing at least :/


I was a bit surprised at a lot of the negative feedback the art style received in the initial gameplay trailer. I didn't think it was all that bad, just different. I remember someone on here comparing it to the art style of the new Ratchet & Clank games which was pretty funny.

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Ven_Roxas

December 22, 2015 @ 08:54 pmOffline

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I think the reason the yen Sid scene looks weird is the lighting. Cause sora looks great in the KH3 part. The room might have weird lighting

Chuman

December 22, 2015 @ 09:11 pmOffline

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Ven_Roxas
I think the reason the yen Sid scene looks weird is the lighting. Cause sora looks great in the KH3 part. The room might have weird lighting


Why is the skylight blue but the room tinted amber? The truth is out there

Wonderful

December 23, 2015 @ 09:17 pmOffline

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the environments are incredibly detailed and look lovely, but does anyone else kind of feel like they are falling short of their original goal with kh3?



like nomura said with the decided art style they wanted to go back to the series' roots as being imagined as like exquisite hand-painted brush work illustrations like a moving disney illustration. and you definitely see that in the announcement trailer. like the there is a lot of detail, sure, but it still has that painterly aesthetic. the bridge isn't hyper realistic for example. the colours all pop and are strong.

meanwhile in the footage we've seen, it seems like it is all trending more to hyper-realistic type depictions. the environments are so incredibly detailed and they pop, but they don't exactly look like illustrations anymore. they look like a detailed fantasy world. i'm wondering if this is part of the reason why the models feel so incongruent to the rest of the game. like the models are still the less detailed brush work type models like sora is above (tho to be fair, still pretty rough) but the rest of the environments no longer match it like sora matches destiny islands in the above image. idk. just something i found myself thinking about. there isn't a balance between the models and the environment and i think it's because they are leaning more to realistic environments instead of the painted illustrations they original set out as. what do you guys think? am i just totally off base and you feel the environments are living up to the painted brush work goal?

Muke

December 23, 2015 @ 09:28 pmOffline

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Wonderful
the environments are incredibly detailed and look lovely, but does anyone else kind of feel like they are falling short of their original goal with kh3?



like nomura said with the decided art style they wanted to go back to the series' roots as being imagined as like exquisite hand-painted brush work illustrations like a moving disney illustration. and you definitely see that in the announcement trailer. like the there is a lot of detail, sure, but it still has that painterly aesthetic. the bridge isn't hyper realistic for example. the colours all pop and are strong.

meanwhile in the footage we've seen, it seems like it is all trending more to hyper-realistic type depictions. the environments are so incredibly detailed and they pop, but they don't exactly look like illustrations anymore. they look like a detailed fantasy world. i'm wondering if this is part of the reason why the models feel so incongruent to the rest of the game. like the models are still the less detailed brush work type models like sora is above (tho to be fair, still pretty rough) but the rest of the environments no longer match it like sora matches destiny islands in the above image. idk. just something i found myself thinking about. there isn't a balance between the models and the environment and i think it's because they are leaning more to realistic environments instead of the painted illustrations they original set out as. what do you guys think? am i just totally off base and you feel the environments are living up to the painted brush work goal?

Whoa. You could be onto something there. Let me think through everything for a sec, maybe I can reply later with a longer post...

VoidGear.

December 23, 2015 @ 09:53 pmOffline

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Wonderful
the environments are incredibly detailed and look lovely, but does anyone else kind of feel like they are falling short of their original goal with kh3?



like nomura said with the decided art style they wanted to go back to the series' roots as being imagined as like exquisite hand-painted brush work illustrations like a moving disney illustration. and you definitely see that in the announcement trailer. like the there is a lot of detail, sure, but it still has that painterly aesthetic. the bridge isn't hyper realistic for example. the colours all pop and are strong.

meanwhile in the footage we've seen, it seems like it is all trending more to hyper-realistic type depictions. the environments are so incredibly detailed and they pop, but they don't exactly look like illustrations anymore. they look like a detailed fantasy world. i'm wondering if this is part of the reason why the models feel so incongruent to the rest of the game. like the models are still the less detailed brush work type models like sora is above (tho to be fair, still pretty rough) but the rest of the environments no longer match it like sora matches destiny islands in the above image. idk. just something i found myself thinking about. there isn't a balance between the models and the environment and i think it's because they are leaning more to realistic environments instead of the painted illustrations they original set out as. what do you guys think? am i just totally off base and you feel the environments are living up to the painted brush work goal?


To be honest, I would've wished the game to look like in the announcement trailer, just because it looked somewhat like the previous games, just better.
Now the characters mostly look like action figures which I don't really like, especially the Disney characters we've seen so far.
I don't hate the new looks or anything, but the announcement trailer DID feel a little more like Kingdom Hearts.

Muke

December 23, 2015 @ 10:01 pmOffline

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VoidGear.
To be honest, I would've wished the game to look like in the announcement trailer, just because it looked somewhat like the previous games, just better.
Now the characters mostly look like action figures which I don't really like, especially the Disney characters we've seen so far.
I don't hate the new looks or anything, but the announcement trailer DID feel a little more like Kingdom Hearts.

Have you seen Eraqus and Xehanort. They really don't look like action figures, uh-uh.

Wonderful

December 23, 2015 @ 10:35 pmOffline

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The Xehanort/Eraqus scene is much closer to the KH announcement trailer than pretty much anything else recent we've seen.

I suppose Back Cover, with the clocktower study is close too.

Antifa Lockhart

December 23, 2015 @ 10:51 pmOffline

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The style wasn't perfect with Xehanort or Eraqus either. Did you see their hair?



I still think them developing this style is why we've seen so little. There was an interview where they said they didn't show disney characters because they wanted to be happy with their look. We've got some ways to go, everyone, I think they'll find the right balance.

Wonderful

December 23, 2015 @ 10:56 pmOffline

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i dont know, the way they are doing the hair there is pretty close to how they did it in the announcement trailer.




i hope it keeps improving anyway and gets closer to the announcement trailer. it's just weird because it seems like the environments of the worlds are pretty decided upon but you see a variance of styles there too, i feel. like The Mysterious Tower, Twilight Town, Tangled, etc. all seem very different from the announcement trailer, the Xehanort conversation, and the Back Cover study :/

Antifa Lockhart

December 23, 2015 @ 11:03 pmOffline

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I mean, keep in mind, this could be intentional. The mysterious Kingdom Shader may be to blame in the odd shading in Yen Sid's tower, or stylistic choices in some cases, Aqua's hair is rendered more or less the same as Sora's, afterall.

Muke

December 23, 2015 @ 11:43 pmOffline

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Tinny
I mean, keep in mind, this could be intentional. The mysterious Kingdom Shader may be to blame in the odd shading in Yen Sid's tower, or stylistic choices in some cases, Aqua's hair is rendered more or less the same as Sora's, afterall.

Now that you've mentioned it, I kinda get the feeling that only the OCs will look as good as the Announcement Trailer. I don't know why, I just feel like it. I am hoping the opposite though.

Wonderful

December 23, 2015 @ 11:53 pmOffline

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Muke
Now that you've mentioned it, I kinda get the feeling that only the OCs will look as good as the Announcement Trailer. I don't know why, I just feel like it. I am hoping the opposite though.

except Riku and Kairi do not look good in 2.8 so far lol

Muke

December 23, 2015 @ 11:55 pmOffline

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Wonderful
except Riku and Kairi do not look good in 2.8 so far lol

Weellp, II.8 is still in development. Of course, you could say that to Yen Sid's Model, too, but let's be honest: They already look better than him. Like, what is going on with the whole lightning and stuff?

Wonderful

December 23, 2015 @ 11:56 pmOffline

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all of this is still in development. but square is also comfortable with releasing this stuff to the public as being representative of the game. there is a chance they think all the models look perfectly fine lol.

Muke

December 24, 2015 @ 12:03 amOffline

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Wonderful
all of this is still in development. but square is also comfortable with releasing this stuff to the public as being representative of the game. there is a chance they think all the models look perfectly fine lol.

Huh. I dunno. Let's just wait and see, shall we~?

BlackOsprey

December 24, 2015 @ 12:04 amOffline

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Muke
Huh. I dunno. Let's just wait and see, shall we~?

This, pretty much. I have blind faith that this will look good in the end. Besides, it's doubtful that this will be done in the next three years. They have plenty of time.

Muke

December 24, 2015 @ 12:12 amOffline

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I really just hope we won't get any downgrades of the models - but I'm sure SE wouldn't be as dumb. I trust 'em. They know how much this game means to us all (at least I think so, lol).

Wonderful

December 24, 2015 @ 12:24 amOffline

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well it's a lot less than three years. 2.8 is coming next year, which basically means they have to finalize the art style for kh3 by then. at least i imagine they would. it'd be weird for them to have kh3 looking so much different from their big kh3 engine demos (BC and 0.2)

Chaser

December 24, 2015 @ 12:26 amOffline

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The announcement trailer was on a different engine and was target render for that engine. I don't think it's fair to compare the two and say one is trying to reach the other when they seem to have settled on a unique look now for KH3.

That's not saying that they won't work on the character models, I'm just saying don't expect the announcement trailer to be the target for what they're trying to achieve.

Donald looks great in the field though.

Muke

December 24, 2015 @ 12:27 amOffline

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Wonderful
well it's a lot less than three years. 2.8 is coming next year, which basically means they have to finalize the art style for kh3 by then. at least i imagine they would. it'd be weird for them to have kh3 looking so much different from their big kh3 engine demos (BC and 0.2)

I think KH III'll look better than both 0.2 and XBC, since it's just a greater game and stuff.

Wonderful

December 24, 2015 @ 12:53 amOffline

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Lunafreya
The announcement trailer was on a different engine and was target render for that engine. I don't think it's fair to compare the two and say one is trying to reach the other when they seem to have settled on a unique look now for KH3.

That's not saying that they won't work on the character models, I'm just saying don't expect the announcement trailer to be the target for what they're trying to achieve.

Donald looks great in the field though.

oh i know it's from a different engine. i didn't mean it should look exactly like that, but that the goal that they were aiming for (being the living brushwork disney illustration feel) they seem to have drifted from. i don't think they are trying to target the announcement trailer exactly, i just mean the announcement trailer seemed to better highlight that art style aspiration they were initially going for, but have since seemed more focused on more realistic environments with character models that don't quite blend with it.

it's just a shame luminous had to be tossed tho.

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notnow123487

December 24, 2015 @ 02:52 amOffline

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I think this game is a holiday 2018 game US and 2.8 comes out next fall as much as I don't want to admit it. They've got a long ways to go. Just my guess for the time being.

gosoxtim

December 24, 2015 @ 02:55 amOffline

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i dont think so i think it holiday 2016 for 2.8 and holiday 2017 for kh 3

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notnow123487

December 24, 2015 @ 03:15 amOffline

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gosoxtim
i dont think so i think it holiday 2016 for 2.8 and holiday 2017 for kh 3


Well see the game still looks very rough, not just the character models and square doesn't have a history of coming even close to deadlines especially for their huge titles. Well have a much better idea after this upcoming E3.

Im trying to be realistic, up until last E3 people were still saying holiday 2016 as if that were ever a possibility lol. Now the consensus is holiday 2017 as the most optimistic time for this game. A lot can change with our perceptions in six months. I think holiday 2017 has always been their goal, the holiday after XV, but I just really don't think theyre even going to come close.

gosoxtim

December 24, 2015 @ 03:36 amOffline

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notnow123487
Well see the game still looks very rough, not just the character models and square doesn't have a history of coming even close to deadlines especially for their huge titles. Well have a much better idea after this upcoming E3.

Im trying to be realistic, up until last E3 people were still saying holiday 2016 as if that were ever a possibility lol. Now the consensus is holiday 2017 as the most optimistic time for this game. A lot can change with our perceptions in six months. I think holiday 2017 has always been their goal, the holiday after XV, but I just really don't think theyre even going to come close.

okay that means we wont get get a kh game next year then and alot can change next next couple months i mean traile4r was d23 last month who know how much they gone since this was shown so we got to be patient plus i don't think they would annouce 2.8 this year if would relase it in 2017 then and also the trailer desrption and us twitter kh also has 2016 on it

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notnow123487

December 24, 2015 @ 03:45 amOffline

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gosoxtim
okay that means we wont get get a kh game next year then and alot canchabge next cuple so be patient plus i dint think they would annouce this 2.8 this year if would would relase it in 2017 and also the trailer desrption and us twitter kh aslo has 2016 on it


I'm saying 2.8 will be holiday 2016 but we won't see KH3 until holiday 2018. If 2.8 comes out in the summer I might change my opinion, but I don't see them being able to put out 3 within 12 months of 2.8. And yes I understand the two games are being developed concurrently, it's just my opinion because of the amount of work that will still have to go into 3 once 2.8 is done. I'm using squares history as a basis for my predictions, it's not unprecedented. Holiday 2018 would be a little more than five years of development which actually seems to be kind of common for gigantic rpg AAA games for this gen. I believe MGSV took five years.

gosoxtim

December 24, 2015 @ 03:51 amOffline

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notnow123487
I'm saying 2.8 will be holiday 2016 but we won't see KH3 until holiday 2018. If 2.8 comes out in the summer I might change my opinion, but I don't see them being able to put out 3 within 12 months of 2.8. And yes I understand the two games are being developed concurrently, it's just my opinion because of the amount of work that will still have to go into 3 once 2.8 is done.
i dont know man waht can they relase in 2017 then if 3 get a date of 2018 becuase after 2.8 3 is next i get what you saying i really i dont see them getting 3 a 2018 date maybe if they were using the engine then yeah but i really do see 3 in late 2017

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notnow123487

December 24, 2015 @ 04:35 amOffline

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gosoxtim
i dont know man waht can they relase in 2017 then if 3 get a date of 2018 becuase after 2.8 3 is next i get what you saying i really i dont see them getting 3 a 2018 date maybe if they were using the engine then yeah but i really do see 3 in late 2017


Then they don't release a KH game lol. There's no guarantee to be a game every year.

Oracle Spockanort

December 24, 2015 @ 05:00 amOffline

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Yeah, the one game a year thing was just a target goal, not a promised deal. We just got lucky and they've managed to release a new game every year since Nomura said that.

It shouldn't be expected.

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notnow123487

December 24, 2015 @ 05:40 amOffline

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Master Spockanort
Yeah, the one game a year thing was just a target goal, not a promised deal. We just got lucky and they've managed to release a new game every year since Nomura said that.

It shouldn't be expected.


yea although it seems like nomura has somewhat been trying to work in a game every year until 3. But my point is that if their target goal is holiday 2017 then if they realize they're not going to make it at the end of 2016, then they're not just going to all the sudden magically have a game laying around to release in 2017 which seems like will be the case if the games 2018.

redcrown

December 24, 2015 @ 07:37 amOffline

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I feel like the only one who thinks Riku, Kairi, and Yen Sid look pretty good once you get over the animation change. Especially Yen Sid, he reminds me of his look in Epic Mickey. Mickey himself on the other hand....

hemmoheikkinen

December 31, 2015 @ 10:22 amOffline

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Hmm, I remember that in E3 Yause explained that the Dandelion Heartless would just generate new enemies if you would use physical attacks against it, and in this trailer it seems that Sora`s Keyblades hits don`t really bother it. When Sora uses a spell thou, it seems to take bigger hit. Interesting.
It is little like some enemies in KH2 that can only be damaged by magic, and little like Bunny Dream Eater enemies in the last world, where you sometimes have to use magic to break their guard.

sonikkufan21KH3

March 28, 2016 @ 11:40 pmOffline

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I play kingdom HeartsDreamDropDisances and kingdom hearts 2 and menories can,t wait for the prequel chapter I played the prequel

sonikkufan21KH3

March 28, 2016 @ 11:41 pmOffline

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can,t wait for KH3 by all means its in my name

Audo

April 27, 2016 @ 03:03 pmOffline

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0.2 be like

Chuman

April 27, 2016 @ 04:29 pmOffline

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Audo
0.2 be like



can you please tell me where this is from i want to buy the album

FudgemintGuardian

April 27, 2016 @ 10:21 pmOffline

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Audo
0.2 be like

What the heck?
*Googles*
[video=youtube;npX12XDv4Ro]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=npX12XDv4Ro[/video]
Aaaaaugh! Get it out of my heeeeeaaaaad!!

Oracle Spockanort

April 27, 2016 @ 10:26 pmOffline

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FudgemintGuardian
What the heck?
*Googles*
[video=youtube;npX12XDv4Ro]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=npX12XDv4Ro[/video]
Aaaaaugh! Get it out of my heeeeeaaaaad!!


This is something I'd expect from ProZD...Not actually official Disney.

Popsydoodles

April 27, 2016 @ 10:49 pmOffline

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FudgemintGuardian
What the heck?
*Googles*
[video=youtube;npX12XDv4Ro]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=npX12XDv4Ro[/video]
Aaaaaugh! Get it out of my heeeeeaaaaad!!

The true light to defeat the darkness! Its shine is absolutely beautiful...

Chuman

April 28, 2016 @ 07:53 amOffline

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Master Spockanort
This is something I'd expect from ProZD...Not actually official Disney.


official rap remix of dearly beloved confirmed

Audo

April 28, 2016 @ 10:31 pmOffline

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mickey: give me a beat yen sid, imma tell a story

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