Famitsu Details Some of KH3's World Order, Pudding Heartless, Gummi Ship Customisation and More
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- Published on February 12, 2018 @ 07:26 am
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Famitsu published a very long, and very detailed, recap of the Kingdom Hearts Fan Event that took place at D23 Japan over the weekend.
Saken has provided a synopsis of the new information, as well as detailing what Miyu Irino, voice actor of Sora, and Risa Uchida, voice actor of Kairi, had to say about their experiences with the Kingdom Hearts series.
There was a lot of repeated content in the report, so we have only included details which are new or expand on previously known information.
- As previously revealed, development of the worlds are split up into three different sections. The first round of worlds are around 90% complete, the middle round of worlds are around 60-70% complete.
- Toy Story and Monsters Inc. are in the first round of worlds, alongside Olympus. Tangled is in the middle round of worlds.
- There are roughly 10 worlds over the 3 parts, but it is unclear if that is just Disney worlds or all of the worlds in the game.
- The Rare Heartless will be a giant-sized Japanese pudding themed Heartless. Co-director Tai Yasue says that there will be different fruit accessories that they wear.
- The Giantland segment will be implemented like an old LSI game. This is something that Nomura really wanted to put into Kingdom Hearts 3.
- You will be able to customise the Gummi Ship with accessories. It is not like Kingdom Hearts 1 level of customisation, but more in tune with how you could accessorise Aqua in Kingdom Hearts 0.2 Birth by Sleep.
The following was shown as a video message to the audience at the Kingdom Hearts Fan Event at D23.
The first scene comprised of a video message from Miyu Irino, voice actor of Sora, and Risa Uchida, voice actor of Kairi.
In the message, Irino san discussed about the journey he’s taken with Sora and how they have both grown together. As Irino san grew, his expression and style of speech changed, which naturally transmitted unto Sora. About the change, Irino san commented “It’s not like I was consciously aware of it. As I grew and experienced life, the changes I felt also transferred to Sora.”
About his visit to Square Enix’s Osaka office, who are currently hard at work developing Kingdom Hearts 3, Irino san commented, “The amount of information on each piece of content and their respective designs, the trial and error, everyone’s hard work… I could feel the shape that KH was being moulded into and I too felt that I wanted to evolve Kingdom Hearts into something even better.”
Irino san is currently most keen in exploring the Toy Story world. “Sora finally being able to visit the Toy World filled me with so much happiness and joy! I felt exactly like the fans!” he exclaimed.
Finally, Irino san expressed his gratitude toward Sora. “Through Sora’s curiosity and adventurous spirit I have also been able to grow, so I’m incredibly glad to have been able to walk this path with him for the past 15 years. Thank you.”
Continuing, Uchida san was asked the question, “If there was any other character you could voice in KH, who would it be?” in which she replied, “A character who’s strong and confident, a cool character”. She continued, “Upon meeting Megumi Toyoguchi (voice actor of Aqua), I thought she was such a beautiful person… I aspired to be like her!” to which her reply to the question at hand was “Aqua”.
When asked to comment about Kingdom Hearts 3, Uchida san responds saying “I’ve heard rumours that ‘this’, which is one of my favourites, and ‘that’ which has never appeared in Kingdom Hearts before, will be included this time so I’m really looking forward to it!*” With much enthusiasm she concluded, “I’m full of emotion to be reunited with Kairi again. I’ll do my utmost best! (in voicing her)” *She purposely left ‘this’ and ‘that’ incredibly vague.
Next, Irino san and Uchida san talked together about their experiences working on Kingdom Hearts. They reflected upon the KH1 recording days, where they would go out together to eat Japanese dumplings (gyoza), rehearse their lines with each other and about other nostalgic episodes they experienced together. Even recently, they often go and see each other off in their respective performances, where they commented that they feel like they share a connection similar to that which is shared amongst Sora, Riku and Kairi, forged from when they originally worked together which permeates until this day.
Back to Irino san, who talks about his recent endeavours travelling abroad with a single backpack. About his reasoning, he commented, “I wanted to study languages, and experience the various theatre performances available around the world”. “While I didn’t feel exactly like Sora, it was a similar sort of feeling… Travelling around to all these different worlds, meeting and conversing with so many different people… It felt like a Sora-esque adventure”, he concluded.
Upon seeing the video message, Nomura san, with sentiments similar to that of a parent toward their children, remarked, “I’m glad that they were able to grow into adults without causing too much trouble (laughs). They have remained true to themselves and us, as they have been from the very beginning.”
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Re: Famitsu Details Some of KH3's World Order, Pudding Heartless, Gummi Ship Customisation and More
So worst case scenario...
Beginning:
1. Twilight Town
2. Olympus
3. Toy Story
4. Monsters Inc
Middle:
5. Radiant Garden + 6. Mini-game World
7. San Fransokyo
8. Corona
End
9. Frozen
10. Final world/Keyblade Graveyard
Notable omissions/swaps: Land of Departure/CO, Daybreak Town?, Mysterious Tower (if separate world), the weird Cable Town thing
Nomura did say roughly three per section.
Of course, best case scenario, the '10 total' are all Disney worlds and we still have 5 more Disney worlds to go!
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So that means our possible order is:
Mount Olympus
Twilight Town
Monsteropolis
Toy Story world
Then Tangled somewhere in the middle worlds
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I think it's great that they've changed Gummi Ship customisation to be more in tune with what we experienced with Aqua in 0.2. I never went into the Gummi menu in KH1 without using a prewritten guide to complete the missions, and in KH2 I had to make that donut.
To have accessories editable is very welcome for me.
Also I'm amazed by how the rare heartless are Japanese pudding themed. That is ripped straight from KHUX.
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I think it's great that they've changed Gummi Ship customisation to be more in tune with what we experienced with Aqua in 0.2. I never went into the Gummi menu in KH1 without using a prewritten guide to complete the missions, and in KH2 I had to make that donut.
To have accessories editable is very welcome for me.
Also I'm amazed by how the rare heartless are Japanese pudding themed. That is ripped straight from KHUX.
What I am about to say will fly over most reading this:
Neptune would be pleased
*Silence*
No one will get it
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They need to Put Treasure Planet, Jungle Book and Wreck-It-Ralph in the Game.
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I think the roughly 10 are just Disney Worlds. This does not include the Original Worlds. The Disney Worlds for the most part are always gonna be more detail oriented then the Regular Ones and need more focus on them. Plus we go back to Nomura saying KH 3 would have less Disney Worlds then KH 2.
[So 10 Disney Worlds is what I think many of us predicted which means that even after the leaked ones (100 Acre Wood/Frozen) that leaves us with 3 more Disney Worlds that are unknown. And it's great cause it's more then KH 1.
As for the others I think there will be 4-5 Original Worlds including Radiant Garden, Cable Town, Twilight Town, Keyblade Graveyard and LOD.
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I think the roughly 10 are just Disney Worlds. This does not include the Original Worlds. The Disney Worlds for the most part are always gonna be more detail oriented then the Regular Ones and need more focus on them. Plus we go back to Nomura saying KH 3 would have less Disney Worlds then KH 2.
So 10 Disney Worlds is what I think many of us predicted which means that even after the leaked ones (100 Acre Wood/Frozen) that leaves us with 3 more Disney Worlds that are unknown. And it's great cause it's more then KH 1.
As for the others I think there will be 4-5 Original Worlds including Radiant Garden, Cable Town, Twilight Town, Keyblade Graveyard and LOD.
Yea but from a development perspective, why would the way its split up only include Disney worlds? If they’re discussing how they’ve split up development across the entire game, why wouldn’t they be talking about every world? Obviously I want to be wrong, but I don’t think we can assume they’re just talking about Disney worlds just because we want there to be 9 Disney worlds.
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Before they stressed KH3 didn't have only 9 worlds. I guess it was 10 all along.:rolleyes:
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Yea but from a development perspective, why would the way its split up only include Disney worlds? If they’re discussing how they’ve split up development across the entire game, why wouldn’t they be talking about every world? Obviously I want to be wrong, but I don’t think we can assume they’re just talking about Disney worlds just because we want there to be 9 Disney worlds.
It may be that way for a variety of reasons. One could be they're designing completely new areas (Hercules) and worlds (TS, MI, Tangled etc.) for the game, so those are taking a lot of precedence to original worlds, which already have maps created from past games. Another could be some original worlds are cutscene only so they don't have to go to the trouble of making a playable environment and thus only have to create a handful of assets and areas for the cutscenes to take place in.
Edit: They also have Mysterious Tower and Destiny Islands finished because of 0.2! Getting 0.2 out and having that eliminate "4" worlds of dev for KH3 might have helped in the long run.
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Yea but from a development perspective, why would the way its split up only include Disney worlds? If they’re discussing how they’ve split up development across the entire game, why wouldn’t they be talking about every world? Obviously I want to be wrong, but I don’t think we can assume they’re just talking about Disney worlds just because we want there to be 9 Disney worlds.
So it's Possible that Jungle Book, Treasure Planet and Wreck-it-Ralph could be those 3 Final Disney Worlds?
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The last few worlds could be anything. Though i feel like Jungle book's chances has kinda lowered because of Tangled. Like they went outta of their way to make it more Jungle influenced.
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Nomura said that 0.2 was suppose to be the length of one Disney world in KH2, but when he actually got around to playing it, it was a bit longer. For 10 Disney worlds and however many original worlds, we are looking at roughly 2 hours per Disney world (because unless you know 0.2 and rush through it, it should take about this long). Therefore we're looking at around a nice length for KH3, over 20 hours with more put in it if worlds take longer, if the original worlds have a lot of length, and if there's plenty to do when going for 100% completion.
Side note: You also really shouldn't ever compare the proper length of a world to how long it took you to rush through it, otherwise all Disney worlds in KH2 are less than 1 hour long for me, both trips included and it isn't true if I said Agrabah is only 44 minutes long (this is how long it took me in the PS4 when skipping cutscenes and going where I knew where to go).
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I dunno why having both worlds with appearance changes right at the beginning bugs me, but it does a little lol. Maybe because Sora will get his KH3 outfit and then immediately change in 2 worlds like right in a row? I dunno. I mean, I'll live lol. But its a tad strange to me.
The pudding Heartless sound amazing, I love them already. I really love the Giantland thing too, I want to know more about how it works.
So worst case scenario...
Beginning:
1. Twilight Town
2. Olympus
3. Toy Story
4. Monsters Inc
Middle:
5. Radiant Garden + 6. Mini-game World
7. San Fransokyo
8. Corona
End
9. Frozen
10. Final world/Keyblade Graveyard
Notable omissions/swaps: Land of Departure/CO, Daybreak Town?, Mysterious Tower (if separate world), the weird Cable Town thing
Nomura did say roughly three per section.
Of course, best case scenario, the '10 total' are all Disney worlds and we still have 5 more Disney worlds to go!
Yeah that just seems like too few original worlds given how until now they have focused on talking about the quantity of Disney worlds being less than KH2. Though I do think Mysterious Tower is part of something, whether its Twilight Town or a Fantasia world I dunno lol. 10 really sounds like a decent amount of Disney worlds....
To be honest tho, I sort of still think Cable Town and LoD are maybe the same thing? And so it being on top of this list....could maybe work lol. So one less, maybe isn't as crazy as I thought.
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Maybe the world order is being done in accordance to release year of the Disney franchises from Toy Story onwards?
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Maybe the world order is being done in accordance to release year of the Disney franchises from Toy Story onwards?
I did consider that, it low-key lines up lol.
Edit: Oh wait, so they consider Monsters Inc 90% done? It looks less done than Tangled tbh lol. In terms of character models and lighting at least...maybe thats just the 10% left ha.
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For 10 Disney worlds and however many original worlds, we are looking at roughly 2 hours per Disney world (because unless you know 0.2 and rush through it, it should take about this long).
Plus, let's be fair. That's without exploring every nook and cranny of 0.2 or completing every objective. AND you don't even have to really worry about level grinding. Your level is already high enough that leveling up doesn't do all THAT much for you. Even if a KH3 world was only intended to be as long as 0.2, you'd still have to account for levels, probably some kind of item grinding since every main KH has some kind of crafting, probably more mini games and such. I'd go so far as to say that I feel fairly confident it'll be closer to 3 hours on the quick side of things the first time around.
I am confused though. Why does everybody suddenly seem to think there's only 9 worlds? Didn't they explicitly say that the three teams working on 3 worlds each DIDN'T mean there was only 9 worlds total?
On the subject of World Order though, I'd like to voice something I've been thinking about. From what I heard, the 0.2 section was originally intended to be the tutorial for the game, directly following the opening cutscenes and ending as 0.2 did- with Sora getting his mission and setting off for Olympus. If I recall correctly it got cut out partly because the tone shift was too severe, right? Well I've been thinking, they probably replaced that section now. We know Sora went to visit the Dream Eaters in Traverse Town, and that he only just got back. I'm gonna hazard a guess that he pips back up in Twilight Town somewhere, and heading to Yen Sid's tower will act as the tutorial. Then you head off to Olympus Colosseum, to return later in the story for the confrontation in front of the mansion.
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Plus, let's be fair. That's without exploring every nook and cranny of 0.2 or completing every objective. AND you don't even have to really worry about level grinding. Your level is already high enough that leveling up doesn't do all THAT much for you. Even if a KH3 world was only intended to be as long as 0.2, you'd still have to account for levels, probably some kind of item grinding since every main KH has some kind of crafting, probably more mini games and such. I'd go so far as to say that I feel fairly confident it'll be closer to 3 hours on the quick side of things the first time around.
I am confused though. Why does everybody suddenly seem to think there's only 9 worlds? Didn't they explicitly say that the three teams working on 3 worlds each DIDN'T mean there was only 9 worlds total?
On the subject of World Order though, I'd like to voice something I've been thinking about. From what I heard, the 0.2 section was originally intended to be the tutorial for the game, directly following the opening cutscenes and ending as 0.2 did- with Sora getting his mission and setting off for Olympus. If I recall correctly it got cut out partly because the tone shift was too severe, right? Well I've been thinking, they probably replaced that section now. We know Sora went to visit the Dream Eaters in Traverse Town, and that he only just got back. I'm gonna hazard a guess that he pips back up in Twilight Town somewhere, and heading to Yen Sid's tower will act as the tutorial. Then you head off to Olympus Colosseum, to return later in the story for the confrontation in front of the mansion.
I think we are concerned because now they upped the number to 10, and didn't clarify what that meant. I recall when they said 9 they said it wasn't all the worlds ha, but 10 is technically bigger than that....
I dunno, you mean it starts before the scenes we see in 0.2? I guess thats possible. But I think Olympus is the first world since Sora is still in his KH2 look for it.
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To be honest tho, I sort of still think Cable Town and LoD are maybe the same thing? And so it being on top of this list....could maybe work lol. So one less, maybe isn't as crazy as I thought.
I don't believe they are the same thing, personally. We know LoD becomes Castle Oblivion, plus didn't Nomura say something about a scene with Eraqus in a "world we haven't ever seen before"? Since the opening looks like it takes place in the LoD I'd bet Cable Town is elsewhere. I'm with you on the numbers though, 9-10 Disney worlds really sounds solid.
As to Monsters Inc, it looks like a 90% completed world to me honestly. The only model that I think even looks a little weird is Sully, and I remember reading on the KHInsider Twitter that a Pixar employee explained that the original movie Sully had a fuckton of fur that had to be pre-rendered (so much so that they couldn't have furry monsters in the backgrounds of scenes with him in it). I believe the person said Sully looks odd because the hair is being rendered in real time by the engine, and he has to have a lot less individual hairs for the frame rate. Everyone else looked pretty well done to me.
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I don't believe they are the same thing, personally. We know LoD becomes Castle Oblivion, plus didn't Nomura say something about a scene with Eraqus in a "world we haven't ever seen before"? Since the opening looks like it takes place in the LoD I'd bet Cable Town is elsewhere. I'm with you on the numbers though, 9-10 Disney worlds really sounds solid.
As to Monsters Inc, it looks like a 90% completed world to me honestly. The only model that I think even looks a little weird is Sully, and I remember reading on the KHInsider Twitter that a Pixar employee explained that the original movie Sully had a diddlyton of fur that had to be pre-rendered (so much so that they couldn't have furry monsters in the backgrounds of scenes with him in it). I believe the person said Sully looks odd because the hair is being rendered in real time by the engine, and he has to have a lot less individual hairs for the frame rate. Everyone else looked pretty well done to me.
That’s exactly right. Monsters Inc looked like a pretty finished world to me, as does Toy Story and Hercules. What we’ve seen from Tangled is gorgeous, but they deliberately didn’t show the town to the public so they might still be having some problems? This all fits with the idea of Tangled still being underdeveloped a bit whereas the other worlds that have had a lot more shown off are developed further.
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Hm, I think its cuz of the impressions people had as I never saw Cable Town obviously, but they said it looked like the Land of Departure. I'd be fine with it not being the same, just don't know if we would need both playable then.
Yea I just saw those tweets, but it doesn't change that I think Sully needs a little something. I already knew how prerendered vs rendered works so I knew he wouldn't look exactly like the movie or something. Its mostly the way the clumps of hair move when he moves his arms and stuff that I really had an issue with, but I think some more lighting could make that look less jarring?
I do think the rest looks pretty done as well tho. I probably should have just said Sully didn't look done ha.
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Man, I hope the flan isn't the only rare Heartless in different, er, flavours. Would be a serious disappointment.
Side note: You also really shouldn't ever compare the proper length of a world to how long it took you to rush through it, otherwise all Disney worlds in KH2 are less than 1 hour long for me, both trips included and it isn't true if I said Agrabah is only 44 minutes long (this is how long it took me in the PS4 when skipping cutscenes and going where I knew where to go).
Word.
I mean, if we used this criteria with speedrunning strats, KH1 and KH II's worlds would be what, 10 minutes at best?
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I think we are concerned because now they upped the number to 10, and didn't clarify what that meant. I recall when they said 9 they said it wasn't all the worlds ha, but 10 is technically bigger than that....
I dunno, you mean it starts before the scenes we see in 0.2? I guess thats possible. But I think Olympus is the first world since Sora is still in his KH2 look for it.
I went and checked out the original Famitsu link. According to my phones automatic translation software which admittedly doesn't pick up on nuance and occaisionally has weird grammar, the Famitsu article specified that the Background team is currently split into three parts, with three worlds to each team. Maybe the "roughly 10 worlds" translation was a liberty taken by the person kind enough to round up the info?
Yes, that's what I mean. We know that the scene where Yen Sid tells Sora to go regain hiat lost strength is going to appear anyway, it's not like KH3 can go straight from the Eraqus scenes to Sora landing on Olympus. So we can be relatively sure that scene will have to be relived anyway. And since Nomura apparently previously confirmed that Twilight Town would be the tutorial world, it would be weird to have Sora turn around after heading for Olympus and going back to Twilight Town (where he basically just was anyway) for a tutorial section. Assuming Nomura is being truthful about the tutorial location and given what we know of Sora's departure for Olympus, the ONLY way for the opening flow to make sense is for Sora to head through TwiTown before meeting back up with his friends at Yen Sids.
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It kind of cool the va are like the destiny gang and I like how risa trying not spoiler kairi role with the vague quote
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Word.
I mean, if we used this criteria with speedrunning strats, KH1 and KH II's worlds would be what, 10 minutes at best?
If it helps, I recently replayed KH2 with a Codebreaker specifically to see how fast I could complete the stories of each world. In a situation where I never had to stop to level or farm money/items, I completed all worlds (included Atlantica and Pooh' s Storybook) in 13 hours and 11 minutes. This is with skipped cutscenes wherever possible, on Proud Mode, and with roughly an hour to an hour and a half of dead time from when my husband decided to start an Important Life Conversation in the middle of me playing.
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Yes Olympus & Galaxy Toys look about 95% complete and Monstropolis look about 90% complete.
I don't understand however how they changed the lineup for Tangled. Originally I remember Nomura stating that Tangled would be 2nd after Olympus. So either they ran into a lot of issues with Tangled which caused it to be delayed. Like some already stated, Sulley needs a bit more polishing but Monstropolis is most likely going to be the least populated world with npc's, mostly due that it's set on night time.
Now I'm also really confused with how Nomura's stated about the worlds. First from D23 2017 he said "Fewer worlds than KH2" Then he said this winter " There are 9 stages of early, middle & late but it doesn't mean it's all the worlds or will only be 9 worlds" And now he says "There are roughly 10 worlds but it's unclear if that is just Disney worlds or all of the worlds in the game".
Make up your mind!
Sorry but you could be a bit more specific and it would be easier to respond to your statement.
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I think he is being clear. There are 10 Disney Worlds because no matter how you spruce it we know there's at least 4-5 Original Worlds in KH 3. So clear there's more then 10 total. That's why I think this is solely about Disney worlds which again means we do not know what 3 of the disney worlds are.
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If it helps, I recently replayed KH2 with a Codebreaker specifically to see how fast I could complete the stories of each world. In a situation where I never had to stop to level or farm money/items, I completed all worlds (included Atlantica and Pooh' s Storybook) in 13 hours and 11 minutes. This is with skipped cutscenes wherever possible, on Proud Mode, and with roughly an hour to an hour and a half of dead time from when my husband decided to start an Important Life Conversation in the middle of me playing.
And just think that speedruns in that category go from 8 to 5 hours depending on the game's version
moral of the story: really don't gauge a game's lenght by how fast you or someone else can complete it. There are ways to shorten what was made to fill time.
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Originally I remember Nomura stating that Tangled would be 2nd after Olympus.
I don’t think that was ever said?
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And just think that speedruns in that category go from 8 to 5 hours depending on the game's version
moral of the story: really don't gauge a game's lenght by how fast you or someone else can complete it. There are ways to shorten what was made to fill time.
Ohhhhh yeah for sure. Like, if I had skipped Pooh/Atlantica or the second part of the Lion King and whatever else I could, I am pretty sure I could have cut another couple of hours off the game. But I already knew where I was going, I was an expert at the abilities and knew all the boss strategies. None of that kinda stuff will be true for people with KH3! I think a lot of people are heavily underestimating the potential length.
Especially since that Famitsu article claims each of the Disney worlds is like it's own game basically, because there are tons of locations, lots of unique mechanica/rules and plenty of objectives to keep you busy.
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I'm happy Tangled is in the middle worlds (if it's true anyway). Just means there will be more powerful bosses and stuff, so I'm glad about that. Otherwise, meh. Not too sure how I feel about the immediate costume changes. Doing it twice in the same world section (the beginning) is also kinda ehhh imo. Just feel like they could've spread it out more, but maybe there will be more, so I'll wait :D
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I don’t think that was ever said?
Ive looked through every KH3 article.
Appears you're right. I was so sure I had read such information from a interview back in 2015 with Tangled's reveal.
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About the "roughly 10 worlds", let me clarify.
In Japanese, they have written 「å数個ã€as the counter for the number of worlds, which is a vague way to express any number from 10-19.
The simplest way to express this in English was "roughly 10", as I thought it would keep the number vague enough while also not being exactly 10.
Sorry for any confusion. I probably could have worded that better :'(
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About the "roughly 10 worlds", let me clarify.
In Japanese, they have written 「å数個ã€as the counter for the number of worlds, which is a vague way to express any number from 10-19.
The simplest way to express this in English was "roughly 10", as I thought it would keep the number vague enough while also not being exactly 10.
Sorry for any confusion. I probably could have worded that better :'(
Oooh
Well, thanks for clarifying that now! At least it makes things easier.
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Shibuya not being a world and there only being 10 world's basically ended my hype.
Then add on the fact Gummi Ship customization is basically watered down to nothing.
Lmfao "KHIII will have a few less Disney world's than KHII" .
I wasn't aware less than half of KHII was a few.
People need to understand we have at least 2 non open worlds too which are Twilight Town and 100 Acre Woods.
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Cat ears for gummi ships????????? Literal immediate game of the year if that happens.
I'm kinda happy Monster's Inc is so early in, of course because of Vanitas, but that also means that all enemy types will be encountered in the first three worlds, right? That really somehow sounds like they are going to make it very diverse, instead of having to fight the same kind of enemy groups again and again (like in other installments, where whatever enemy you fought, you usually saw them accompanied by shadows/dusks/floods either way).
the constant speculation over the exact number of worlds (and getting upset that there could only be 10) continues to be absolutely baffling to me. i'd be cool with 10 tbh. also i'd rather expect less and be surprised with more, y'know?
anyway i've read the source myself and basically whatever they've said about "there aren't only 9 worlds but we can't say how many exactly!" remains true.
as saken clarified above, å数個 = tens, so to be very liberal it could be anything from 10 - 19. realistically speaking, it likely caps at around 15. personally i'd wager max 13 to be safe.
there's also no mention at all whether those worlds are disney or original or anything. just "worlds", which leads me to think they mean all-inclusive. but idk, who knows? the point is that they are being intentionally vague for a reason, so really all we can do for now is roll with it.
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Shibuya not being a world and there only being 10 world's basically ended my hype.
Then add on the fact Gummi Ship customization is basically watered down to nothing.
Lmfao "KHIII will have a few less Disney world's than KHII" .
I wasn't aware less than half of KHII was a few.
People need to understand we have at least 2 non open worlds too which are Twilight Town and 100 Acre Woods.
KH2 has 12 Disney worlds, including two mini game worlds and a Disney world within a disney world. For kh3 to have less than half of KH2’s Disney worlds, there’d need to be only five and we know there’s more than that.
I get that you’re disappointed that one leak turned out to be fake but there’s no need to jump to conclusions and spout nonsense.
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keep in mine in the video mesaage risa said something this and that worlds will be in kh3 in a vague statement so unless she talking about monster inc and other frozen at that time then let not asume there only 10 worlds
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I feel like there are 10 Disney Worlds, not 10 worlds in general.
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so far form that leak list the only big world that yet to reveal is frozen not counting winnie the pooh that world will be just be aworld within a world like past times
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Idk I think they were referring to all worlds not just Disney. Since Nomura wants every world revealed before KH3 releases, it's no surprise there aren't many worlds left for us to see because it's releasing this year.
Also they do not care about spoilers at all, I mean look at this. If we say each world will have 3 big main areas, then we have literally already seen all the areas in each world leaving no surprises.
Toy Story:
1 - Andys Room/outside is one area
2 +3 - The toy shop floors 1-3
(pretty sure we saw the final boss)
Monstropolis:
1 - The main scare floor
2 - The door room
3 - Inside the factory area
Tangled:
1 - The Tower area
2 - The forest
3 - The town
Olympus:
1 - Thebes (saw the boss)
2 - Mountain (saw the boss)
3 - Heavens (prob Hades somewhere)
So... Pray they don't show all 3 areas for BH6 at E3, But they probably will.
Note: I say 3 areas because 0.2 ended up being bigger than Nomura intended which had 4 maps and the last map wasn't exactly "big" so I just assume each world will primarily have 3 main areas. Also I feel like it was even confirmed somewhere?
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there not many con coming up to reveal more world so unless they decide to make kh uncovered event in the future e3 would be for next world reveal then would be tgs after that so we coming down the home strach with world anncments
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the constant speculation over the exact number of worlds (and getting upset that there could only be 10) continues to be absolutely baffling to me. i'd be cool with 10 tbh. also i'd rather expect less and be surprised with more, y'know?
anyway i've read the source myself and basically whatever they've said about "there aren't only 9 worlds but we can't say how many exactly!" remains true.
as saken clarified above, å数個 = tens, so to be very liberal it could be anything from 10 - 19. realistically speaking, it likely caps at around 15. personally i'd wager max 13 to be safe.
there's also no mention at all whether those worlds are disney or original or anything. just "worlds", which leads me to think they mean all-inclusive. but idk, who knows? the point is that they are being intentionally vague for a reason, so really all we can do for now is roll with it.
I couldn't care less about the number of worlds, I'd take quality over quantity anyday. KH1 had 11 worlds and turned out just fine, so I really don't see the problem.
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So the Gummi Ship customization will be more like the accessorizing in Fragmentary Passage?
Does that mean we can't make the almighty donut?
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I think people are putting a little too much stock into the number of worlds. I personally would want a ton of worlds to explore, but I don't want them to shoehorn it in for the sake of adding more worlds. I'd rather they stick to the creative vision they have for the game, and work on making that as great as possible.
I also want to say that just because Nomura said 0.2 is about the same length as an average world in 3, doesn't necessarily mean we should take that as gospel going into this, because for all intents and purposes, that could've changed at any point. I think at the very least, it'll be around that length, but by the time the game rolls around, it could be boosted up to three hours per world. So I wouldn't worry too much about any of that, I think things will work out nicely.
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About the "roughly 10 worlds", let me clarify.
In Japanese, they have written 「å数個ã€as the counter for the number of worlds, which is a vague way to express any number from 10-19.
The simplest way to express this in English was "roughly 10", as I thought it would keep the number vague enough while also not being exactly 10.
Sorry for any confusion. I probably could have worded that better :'(
So like was everyone commenting at once, or did half of the people after this comment just ignore it lol. Cuz yea that is a huge difference. I say we go back to the whole "less Disney worlds thank KH2" thing cuz that narrows it down better hahaha.
As for why people are getting upset, I kind of get it? Like if we only got 10 whole worlds thats only around 7 Disney properties. Sure, I don't want them to "force" things in either, but I think its understandable to be bummed by that number given how the other console titles had quite a few more. People who like hate the game and stuff for it...that's another discussion lol. But being bummed is understandable imo.
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With how gigantic these worlds are seeming, I wouldn't mind fewer of them to kind of offset that. Not like less than 10 (although I don't think there's any chance of that happening) but games these days have a real problem of being very "big" and open but in the end all of that space is dead space full of either nothing or little nothing quests that are blatant padding to fill up space that's too big and there to look pretty and pad out game time. From what we've seen of the Toy Story world and even Olympus, I don't think that will be a problem, and if the trade off for big worlds that actually feel full of things that matter is that there aren't 20 of them, I'm okay with that.
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It is understandable why some people feel this way. It still gives people hope the properties they really want could really make it in. With 10 worlds there's just no more surprises left, we pretty much know all the Disney worlds.
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Here is a nice list of worlds that we know have been announced, leaked, or are just pretty much a given considering their earlier importance.
Confirmed:
Twilight Town
Monsters Inc
Big Hero 6
Tangled
Hercules
Toy Story
Leaked:
Frozen
Winnie the Pooh
Pretty much a given:
Keyblade Graveyard
Radiant Garden
Castle Oblivion/LoD
Realm of Darkness
???:
Cable(?) Town
We know there will be more original worlds appearing in this game than just Twilight Town. Also, I find it had to believe we won't see Disney Castle appear again in some form.
Olympus cannot be the only returning world if the PoH are going to have some level of importance in this game. I know they said almost Disney worlds all will be new...but I'm still hopeful.
Which is why I'm sure that we will have a nice balance of 10-11 Disney worlds.
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Here is a nice list of worlds that we know have been announced, leaked, or are just pretty much a given considering their earlier importance.
Confirmed:
Twilight Town
Monsters Inc
Big Hero 6
Tangled
Hercules
Toy Story
Leaked:
Frozen
Winnie the Pooh
Pretty much a given:
Keyblade Graveyard
Radiant Garden
Castle Oblivion/LoD
Realm of Darkness
???:
Cable(?) Town
We know there will be more original worlds appearing in this game than just Twilight Town. Also, I find it had to believe we won't see Disney Castle appear again in some form.
Olympus cannot be the only returning world if the PoH are going to have some level of importance in this game. I know they said almost Disney worlds all will be new...but I'm still hopeful.
Which is why I'm sure that we will have a nice balance of 10-11 Disney worlds.
Yeah but with only 3-4 slots left for Disney worlds they cant have all of the six POH worlds. And even then they can still have them without bringing back their worlds.
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Here is a nice list of worlds that we know have been announced, leaked, or are just pretty much a given considering their earlier importance.
Confirmed:
Twilight Town
Monsters Inc
Big Hero 6
Tangled
Hercules
Toy Story
Leaked:
Frozen
Winnie the Pooh
Pretty much a given:
Keyblade Graveyard
Radiant Garden
Castle Oblivion/LoD
Realm of Darkness
???:
Cable(?) Town
We know there will be more original worlds appearing in this game than just Twilight Town. Also, I find it had to believe we won't see Disney Castle appear again in some form.
Olympus cannot be the only returning world if the PoH are going to have some level of importance in this game. I know they said almost Disney worlds all will be new...but I'm still hopeful.
Which is why I'm sure that we will have a nice balance of 10-11 Disney worlds.
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Yeah but with only 3-4 slots left for Disney worlds they cant have all of the six POH worlds. And even then they can still have them without bringing back their worlds.
Who said anything about all six? xD Just one will do.
There needs to be a way to tie them into the plot in a more organic manner, which can be done by having one PoH world appear to show the impending threat on their safety. It'd be very weak writing to have them just appear without a little build up or preamble to their appearance.
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Who said anything about all six? xD Just one will do.
There needs to be a way to tie them into the plot in a more organic manner, which can be done by having one PoH world appear to show the impending threat on their safety. It'd be very weak writing to have them just appear without a little build up or preamble to their appearance.
My ideal scenario would be Kairi visiting the PoH worlds trying to figure out exactly what her powers are. Alas that is never happening :[
God we need a Kairi game.
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there not many con coming up to reveal more world so unless they decide to make kh uncovered event in the future e3 would be for next world reveal then would be tgs after that so we coming down the home strach with world anncments
They can do what they did for the other games. Some worlds can be revealed in magazines.
I still am firmly on he's solely talking about Disney Worlds as 10 is a very solid number and it's more then KH 1.
I do not see this game having less Disney Worlds then KH 1 , not happening. Especially when he specifically says KH 3 will have less Disney Worlds then KH 2. If it wasn't even gonna have more then KH 1 he would have told us. Tetsuya is honest when it comes to this stuff, he doesn't screw around.
Plus on top of 10 Disney Worlds you have the guaranteed Twilight Town, Radiant Garden, Cable Town, Disney Castle, and Final World, and likely one more to make it more than KH 2 in total number of worlds.
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Who said anything about all six? xD Just one will do.
There needs to be a way to tie them into the plot in a more organic manner, which can be done by having one PoH world appear to show the impending threat on their safety. It'd be very weak writing to have them just appear without a little build up or preamble to their appearance.
Oh I see. Agrabah would be ideal for numerous reasons.
My ideal scenario would be Kairi visiting the PoH worlds trying to figure out exactly what her powers are. Alas that is never happening :[
God we need a Kairi game.
Wait till the next saga XD.
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I guess they could always make it so you could visit each PoH world but it would be a small section. A quick visit with a short protect and rescue and get out thing.
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I mean it would be ridiculous if someone would hate the game for lack of worlds but that's not the same if feeling bummed. Whatever happens, happens and understandably there are reasons for being bummed.
However I just really wish there's at least 1 world that is animal focused. That was something that really made me connect with KH2 due to the vast variety of concepts for the worlds. Doesn't help either that I'm all for animals.
Another reason many stated is that lack of earlier properties in hand drawn animation. I think that even there, just having one property from 50s-70s library of feature films would serve as fresh and different. At the moment we have confirmed for 90s, 2010s feature films. And early 2000s with MI.
I think that's what had many upset due to leaks being revealed and announcement of fewer worlds.
However there's still hope for something completely out of the ordinary. I mean Nomura is paying attention to a short from 1938. So anything is possible.
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That's why I want Jungle Book personally or Robin Hood.
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However there's still hope for something completely out of the ordinary. I mean Nomura is paying attention to a short from 1938. So anything is possible.
Oh, KH3 is going to be balls off the wall full of extraordinary things nobody would have thought of. This game is shaping up to be a big love letter to the medium of animation and Disney as a company in general...More so than it ever has been before.
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Yeah but with only 3-4 slots left for Disney worlds they cant have all of the six POH worlds. And even then they can still have them without bringing back their worlds.
I could see the Princesses being brought to Disney Castle for safety and/or to combine their powers to counter Xehanort. They should definitely feature in the game to some degree and something like that would be an easy route to include them without featuring their worlds.
EDIT: Plus, imagining Snow White, Cinderella, Aurora, et al bonding with Queen Minnie makes me feel all warm and fuzzy.
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doesn't giantland minigame remind people mario 2d leveals a bit?
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*almost everybody else speculating about the worlds of KHIII*
*me just crying and being emotional after reading Uchida´s and Irino´s interviews*
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*me just crying and being emotional after reading Uchida´s and Irino´s interviews*
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*almost everybody else speculating about the worlds of KHIII*
*me just crying and being emotional after reading Uchida´s and Irino´s interviews*
*Hides onions*
Oh, are you okay, maybe you like some onion chips
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Hm, so despite not being in the trailer I guess Kairi will still be in the game. I wonder if there's an actual reason she's not shown, maybe she actually does something this time and they don't want to spoil it? Maybe. It's possible. Really cute that the voice actors are friends too ;-; It always gets me just how much not just the characters, but all of us have grown during these years of KH. The voice actors too!
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The lack of FF is concerning.
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Hm, so despite not being in the trailer I guess Kairi will still be in the game. I wonder if there's an actual reason she's not shown, maybe she actually does something this time and they don't want to spoil it? Maybe. It's possible. Really cute that the voice actors are friends too ;-; It always gets me just how much not just the characters, but all of us have grown during these years of KH. The voice actors too!
The lack of FF is concerning.
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The lack of FF is concerning.
We don't know if any FF is even in the game, we barely know anything about the story outside of what we learned back in 2013 to 2015.
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Reading that Irino wanted to learn other languages and travel abroad really brings out the Sora in him. And it's wonderful to hear that they have such a strong bond with one another. It feels like you really get to know these actors.
So with 10 Disney Worlds, 3 are unknown, and about 4-5 original worlds that brings the total worlds to the same as KH 2.
Oh, KH3 is going to be balls off the wall full of extraordinary things nobody would have thought of. This game is shaping up to be a big love letter to the medium of animation and Disney as a company in general...More so than it ever has been before.
If that is the case then they need to start revealing more traditional worlds. Cause so far they're mostly all modern Disney films.
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The lack of FF is concerning.
I'm honestly not expecting anything new at this point, but at least Leon and the gang will have to be back as they are basically KH characters in their own right. I expect the Cloud and Sephiroth thing, Vivi and Seifer's gang should be in Twilight Town, too. Maybe we will at least get Rinoa since they hinted her at the end of 2, but yeah. Any new ones I am not holding my breath lol.
doesn't giantland minigame remind people mario 2d leveals a bit?
It reminds me of this more:
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Aren't Tangled and Frozen in the same world? So wouldn't it be possible that those two stories would just happen in the same World but maybe at different visits?
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Aren't Tangled and Frozen in the same world? So wouldn't it be possible that those two stories would just happen in the same World but maybe at different visits?
Rapunzel and Eugene were just an easter egg. If we visit Arendelle we will go to a different world, like how China in Land of Dragons is not in the same world as London in Neverland.
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So my theory on worlds based on different types of animation is kind out of the dump. But thinking hypothetically...
Would Olympus be the exception to the categorization, given that it is the first Disney world that is directly connects to 0.2's story?
If the sections are divided into three worlds and Olympus ends up being an exception, does this rule the possibility of a third Pixar world?
We know too little to figure out, and we only have Tangled being categorized in the middle section (potentially the Disney CG animation category.) to speculate about, with Big Hero 6 not being even grouped or mentioned within the hypothetical Disney CG middle section.
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About the "roughly 10 worlds", let me clarify.
In Japanese, they have written 「å数個ã€as the counter for the number of worlds, which is a vague way to express any number from 10-19.
The simplest way to express this in English was "roughly 10", as I thought it would keep the number vague enough while also not being exactly 10.
Sorry for any confusion. I probably could have worded that better :'(
Ohhhhh, that makes sense! I'm curious; The part of the interview that refers to three teams working on roughly 3 worlds each... if my autotranslation was accurate, the article specified that it's the Background/Assets team that is split this way, rather than the entire development team. Is that accurate?
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I agree with the sentiment that the Disney worlds need some more diversity in the form of earlier films from the 50s-70s. Or a hand drawn film from the 80s-00s that we haven't been to before. Direct to VHS sequels (King of Thebes) aren't the most thrilling so a return to Agrabah isn't high on my list of wants if going there meant we couldn't go somewhere totally new.
That being said, the series itself doesn't show signs of stopping so I'm sure they'll cover more films eventually.
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it amazing that how much stuff they holding back on i never thought we see a lot of stuff but barely scrat the surface
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There is nothing I don't love about a giant Pudding Heartless. I already want to eat it.
| Continuing, Uchida san was asked the question, “If there was any other character you could voice in KH, who would it be?†in which she replied, “A character who’s strong and confident, a cool characterâ€. She continued, “Upon meeting Megumi Toyoguchi (voice actor of Aqua), I thought she was such a beautiful person… I aspired to be like her!†to which her reply to the question at hand was “Aquaâ€. |
Hint hint, Nomura -3-
Actually, I really hope Hayden comes back for Kairi. Do we know anything further on that front? Has anyone tweeted her or something?
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Actually, I really hope Hayden comes back for Kairi. Do we know anything further on that front? Has anyone tweeted her or something?
Everyone is silent on KH3. The most recent thing we know is that no one has approached Zachary Levi yet.
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There is nothing I don't love about a giant Pudding Heartless. I already want to eat it.
Hint hint, Nomura -3-
Actually, I really hope Hayden comes back for Kairi. Do we know anything further on that front? Has anyone tweeted her or something?
I mean in another thread we have sort of deduced English recording hasn't even started so I doubt she would know. The only concern is I know she was having health issues, does anyone know if she has resumed work and such since then? She was in Until Dawn a few years ago, and Birth by Sleep lol, so its not like she is opposed to game acting still....
I hope they get her too, I'm kind of sick of the back and forth though. Alyson seems more consistent.
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I mean in another thread we have sort of deduced English recording hasn't even started so I doubt she would know. The only concern is I know she was having health issues, does anyone know if she has resumed work and such since then? She was in Until Dawn a few years ago, and Birth by Sleep lol, so its not like she is opposed to game acting still....
I hope they get her too, I'm kind of sick of the back and forth though. Alyson seems more consistent.
It's not their fault , I'm sure Hayden wasn't available for a few games, re cast and under studies are a thing.
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I mean in another thread we have sort of deduced English recording hasn't even started so I doubt she would know. The only concern is I know she was having health issues, does anyone know if she has resumed work and such since then? She was in Until Dawn a few years ago, and Birth by Sleep lol, so its not like she is opposed to game acting still....
I hope they get her too, I'm kind of sick of the back and forth though. Alyson seems more consistent.
She seems to have recovered from her post-partum depression, enough to complete her run as Juliet on Nashville, do a film, a few TV spots. I hope she is able to commit to KH3. Keep Alyson as Xion though, after all the work she's put in she deserves to voice a main character.
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I mean in another thread we have sort of deduced English recording hasn't even started so I doubt she would know. The only concern is I know she was having health issues, does anyone know if she has resumed work and such since then? She was in Until Dawn a few years ago, and Birth by Sleep lol, so its not like she is opposed to game acting still....
I hope they get her too, I'm kind of sick of the back and forth though. Alyson seems more consistent.
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This is one area where I prefer our English dub. I like having different voices for Xion and Kairi, and would like to keep it that way.
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She seems to have recovered from her post-partum depression, enough to complete her run as Juliet on Nashville, do a film, a few TV spots. I hope she is able to commit to KH3. Keep Alyson as Xion though, after all the work she's put in she deserves to voice a main character.
Oh I see, I did see someone else mention Nashville I didn't realize she had come back to finish the show. So thats good, I'm glad she is doing better.
Yeah I agree Xion should just sort of be Alyson at this point but I dunno, BBS makes me think they won't do that? But I would like to be wrong.
It's not their fault , I'm sure Hayden wasn't available for a few games, re cast and under studies are a thing.
I do get that, I guess its just unfortunate when its a main character? Like I guess if I was the casting director I would just stick with who is more available for the projects lol. I guess its also the Japanese casting never really has these issues, it seems like sometimes its about actors not being paid enough and such over here in the West, which really sucks.
But this series is clearly no stranger to recasts ha, since the Disney characters are all over the place with that as well.
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Oh I see, I did see someone else mention Nashville I didn't realize she had come back to finish the show. So thats good, I'm glad she is doing better.
Yeah I agree Xion should just sort of be Alyson at this point but I dunno, BBS makes me think they won't do that? But I would like to be wrong.
DDD had Hayden as Xion and 0.2 had Alyson as Kairi so it is honestly a mystery just what they will do!
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DDD had Hayden as Xion and 0.2 had Alyson as Kairi so it is honestly a mystery just what they will do!
Oh gosh 0.2 fell out of my head lol...I am more unsure again as well ha.
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I was definitely disappointed she wasn't in 0.2, especially since she returned for literally one sentence in DDD.
I just don't want any more recasts. We've had enough in this series.
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Everyone is silent on KH3. The most recent thing we know is that no one has approached Zachary Levi yet.
Well FTR he could be contracted to not say anything until the English trailers are released.
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Are you okay with the Master Xehanort's being recast? They are the only one's outside of any Disney voice actors hired by Disney.
Well FTR he could be contracted to lie. I know for a fact this has happened in multiple projects.
Having been under NDA by Disney and Square Enix in the past before, I know it is better to just stay quiet than it is to speak up like he did here. His response does nothing except cause a little headache for fans which isn't very nice.
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Very true but when people ask questions it's better to give those kind of responses or none at all. Plus as many said they haven't even started on VA likely for KH 3.
I am anxious to find out what the other 3 Disney worlds will be in KH 3 aside from the 2 we know from the leak.
I have hope that at least 2 of them will be more classic Disney while they may do Wreck It Ralph as more modern.
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Are you okay with the Master Xehanort's being recast?
Obviously there's not much anyone can do about that one.
| They are the only one's outside of any Disney voice actors hired by Disney. |
What?
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What?
Sorry, I meant the original VA's are the only ones who can be replaced as Disney have their own voice actors for media like games.
Carlos Alazraqui, for example, has voiced Mike in every video game appearance.
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acroding to this tweet from tasha she said this
"I probably can't say much about schedule other than we're working on it!
(credit https://twitter.com/tashasounart/status/963227595360714753)
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Tasha has been very lovely to this community. Good on her for releasing little bits of information for us :)
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Is anyone confident they'll still do magazine world reveals? Feel like with Disney being more hands on with KH3 it won't happen. It just makes me wonder how would they reveal some of the more less popular properties this time around, especially with there being still so much to show.
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speaking of sceldre i wonder they going to work with zachery levi since he cuntly fliming shazam right now
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Is anyone confident they'll still do magazine world reveals? Feel like with Disney being more hands on with KH3 it won't happen. It just makes me wonder how would they reveal some of the more less popular properties this time around, especially with there being still so much to show.
I can't say they will with confidence really. I think, with like you said, Disney being more behind it all they'd want world reveals to make as much noise as possible. Sure word can spread from a magazine reveal and publications but when you can have it at an event or livestream it usually gets more immediate buzz. But anything is possible!
I can still see them getting new info for sure though like summons, character render reveals, orders of the worlds, and so on.
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Is anyone confident they'll still do magazine world reveals? Feel like with Disney being more hands on with KH3 it won't happen. It just makes me wonder how would they reveal some of the more less popular properties this time around, especially with there being still so much to show.
I hope they do cause i want to see What the Remaining Worlds for Kingdom Hearts III (Both Disney and KH Original Worlds)
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Sorry, I meant the original VA's are the only ones who can be replaced as Disney have their own voice actors for media like games.
Carlos Alazraqui, for example, has voiced Mike in every video game appearance.
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speaking of sceldre i wonder they going to work with zachery levi since he cuntly fliming shazam right now
Zachary Levi loves video games, loves Tangled, and has worked with Square Enix in the past. He'd probably find a way to make it happen.
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I'm not saying I think they would go all out to hire the original VA from the movies for characters that have VA counterparts they use for video games... but would I be wrong in thinking KH3 is the biggest Disney video game, except maybe Disney Infinity? That was really big for a while.
I know the KH series doesn't always have the original cast but it'd be nice if they would. If Disney Infinity didn't, Kingdom Hearts III won't.
But I can dream.
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I'm not saying I think they would go all out to hire the original VA from the movies for characters that have VA counterparts they use for video games... but would I be wrong in thinking KH3 is the biggest Disney video game, except maybe Disney Infinity? That was really big for a while.
I know the KH series doesn't always have the original cast but it'd be nice if they would. If Disney Infinity didn't, Kingdom Hearts III won't.
But I can dream.
Disney Infinity was a bit of a different beast than KH3. It was a toys-to-life game but had very little true story content, and what it did have was barebones until some of 2.0 and 3.0. Disney wasn't going to try and push to get all of the original voices for it. It was always about the toys and sandbox aspects and not about the story.
KH3, though...You've got some of the actual staff from Walt Disney Animation Studios and Pixar working on the games as consultants with said staff stating how it is canon to the films, and almost near perfect replication of these films in a video game format. It would not surprise me if Disney tried a little harder to get as many of the original VAs back for this game in order to keep up with the near-movie quality experience SE is trying to deliver with this game.
There are some that just won't no matter what is said or done, but you'd be surprised just how many will likely return to reprise their role.
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One thing for sure is that Mandy Moore will be back as Rapunzel. She loves that character and wouldn't miss a second to reprise her role.
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Is anyone confident they'll still do magazine world reveals? Feel like with Disney being more hands on with KH3 it won't happen. It just makes me wonder how would they reveal some of the more less popular properties this time around, especially with there being still so much to show.
I do think Magazine reveals will and could still happen. What I can also see Disney doing is promoting worlds on The Disney Channel or one of their channels that they own. Promote the game and at the end reveal a new world.
Or they can go the route of what Smash did with Smash Wii U. Have livestream events just for talking about the game.
I think there's still 3 Disney Worlds remaining and since Namura said he won't hold any surprises on the Disney World reveals till the game, they're gonna find a way to reveal the remaining 3 worlds aside from the leak confirmed ones.
For all we know they can use D23 in July to reveal another one after E3 reveals one or they can do something like they did in KH 2 and reveal 2 worlds at the same time.
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Disney Infinity was a bit of a different beast than KH3. It was a toys-to-life game but had very little true story content, and what it did have was barebones until some of 2.0 and 3.0. Disney wasn't going to try and push to get all of the original voices for it. It was always about the toys and sandbox aspects and not about the story.
KH3, though...You've got some of the actual staff from Walt Disney Animation Studios and Pixar working on the games as consultants with said staff stating how it is canon to the films, and almost near perfect replication of these films in a video game format. It would not surprise me if Disney tried a little harder to get as many of the original VAs back for this game in order to keep up with the near-movie quality experience SE is trying to deliver with this game.
There are some that just won't no matter what is said or done, but you'd be surprised just how many will likely return to reprise their role.
I really appreciate the reply but about my actual question... what would you say is the biggest Disney video game in TWDC's eyes?
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There is no D23 in July. That expo is once every two years.
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So this year's remaining major gaming events are, What? E3 in June, Gamescom in August, Tokyo Gameshow in September? I feel like I'm missing another major one, which is to say nothing of smaller events.
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And I don't think anyone is gonna care about 100 Acre Woods being revealed as a world. It never has been, the way 100 Acre Woods has always been confirmed is magazines. So they wouldn't waste a trailer on revealing that world. If we get trailers we are getting newsworthy worlds. So with 3 events incoming that leaves 3 Disney worlds + 100 Acre Wood as well.
And I imagine the E3 trailer will show us our first look at FF characters in the game as well.
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So this year's remaining major gaming events are, What? E3 in June, Gamescom in August, Tokyo Gameshow in September? I feel like I'm missing another major one, which is to say nothing of smaller events.
There's a PAX East event in April in Boston a week before the Union Cross fan event in Los Angeles.
There's E3 in June, San Diego Comic Con in July, Gamescom in August, Tokyo Game Show in September, New York Comic Con and Paris Games Week in October, and PSX / Jump Festa in December.
Each event listed above, excluding PSX, has had at least one Kingdom Hearts trailer or demo in the past.
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There's a PAX East event in April in Boston a week before the Union Cross fan event in Los Angeles.
There's E3 in June, San Diego Comic Con in July, Gamescom in August, Tokyo Game Show in September, New York Comic Con and Paris Games Week in October, and PSX / Jump Festa in December.
Each event listed above, excluding PSX, has had at least one Kingdom Hearts trailer or demo in the game.
I think TGS will be the last event cause I think KH 3 will either come out at end of September or in October. Depending on when NYCC and Paris Games Week is they could release trailers but I think by then we will know all the Disney Worlds in the game.
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i hope we get word when the next news will be at but i think e3 will have the release date though it the one that makes the most sense right now and yseah i can see them appaering in a lot of event we barely scratch the surface with annoucments
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I really appreciate the reply but about my actual question... what would you say is the biggest Disney video game in TWDC's eyes?
I thought my answer was pretty clear with just how much I said...
Star Wars Battlefront II. Spider-Man. The Avengers Project.
But if we are talking purely Disney and not Marvel or Star Wars, this. This is the biggest one. It is vastly different than those games listed above. There is no game like this. They would not have put even half the effort they are right now to equip SE with the references, the contacts, the staff, the money like they are for this game if they didn’t see it as a major project—if not one of their most important ones—to them.
Again, the fact that they have actual WDAS and Pixar staff consulting and actually working on the game is already huge. This never happens. They’ve never stated something could be CANON to their film canon beyond the animated shows. And yet here we are with KH3 having a canon story in between Toy Story 2 and Toy Story 3. That’s insane considering how protective Pixar is of their properties. They’d never allow something like that in the past.
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I thought my answer was pretty clear with just how much I said...
Star Wars Battlefront II. Spider-Man. The Avengers Project.
But if we are talking purely Disney and not Marvel or Star Wars, this. This is the biggest one. It is vastly different than those games listed above. There is no game like this. They would not have put even half the effort they are right now to equip SE with the references, the contacts, the staff, the money like they are for this game if they didn’t see it as a major project—if not one of their most important ones—to them.
Again, the fact that they have actual WDAS and Pixar staff consulting and actually working on the game is already huge. This never happens. They’ve never stated something could be CANON to their film canon beyond the animated shows. And yet here we are with KH3 having a canon story in between Toy Story 2 and Toy Story 3. That’s insane considering how protective Pixar is of their properties. They’d never allow something like that in the past.
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They're probably also looking at the future of the franchise as well. I mean if Disney wants their own cinematic universe look no further then Kingdom Hearts.
I also think this is for 3 reasons...
1. They've realized that there is money to be made in the KH franchise just by looking at the insane reaction at D23. Way way more then SW BF 2 and Spider Man.
2. They're looking to the future of the franchise where they can include the likes of Star Wars and Marvel in KH. I can pretty much bank we're gonna have Darth Vader as a secret boss in KH 3. I just have this feeling.
3. One of the big shows coming to the streaming service is gonna be a TV show based on Kingdom Hearts. I think something KH is coming to the Disney exclusive streaming service.
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I’ll never stop saying it but when they played the old trailer from the concert, the crowd was already massively louder than it had been the entire presentation. When Nomura came out it got even louder. When that new trailer started rolling, the crowd’s screams were like a roar. When Toy Story came on sceeen, the room might as well have been exploding because it was so loud.
Sign, Dandelion, and I were sitting behind a row of Disney marketing staff and they literally were freaked out by just how insane the crowd got. One of the staff members who was monitoring streams of the presentation on her phone literally stopped because she was so shocked at the reaction around her.
The whole time the audience was politely excited about earlier stuff, but hardly raving. Then it was like a switch flipped. If they weren’t aware of what they actually have in their hands, they certainly know now.
Hell, one only need to look at their social media and see what the majority of comments were made at them were during D23 Expo Japan.
The trailers have gotten millions of views since releasing. If the main Disney account marketed the trailer, it’d probably explode even more.
Post KH3 is going to be a very weird and crazy time, y’all.
My only worry is how well KH3 will review. It’s going to do well on everything but the story, I imagine.
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I’ll never stop saying it but when they played the old trailer from the concert, the crowd was already massively louder than it had been the entire presentation. When Nomura came out it got even louder. When that new trailer started rolling, the crowd’s screams were like a roar. When Toy Story came on sceeen, the room might as well have been exploding because it was so loud.
Sign, Dandelion, and I were sitting behind a row of Disney marketing staff and they literally were freaked out by just how insane the crowd got. One of the staff members who was monitoring streams of the presentation on her phone literally stopped because she was so shocked at the reaction around her.
The whole time the audience was politely excited about earlier stuff, but hardly raving. Then it was like a switch flipped. If they weren’t aware of what they actually have in their hands, they certainly know now.
Hell, one only need to look at their social media and see what the majority of comments were made at them were during D23 Expo Japan.
The trailers have gotten millions of views since releasing. If the main Disney account marketed the trailer, it’d probably explode even more.
Post KH3 is going to be a very weird and crazy time, y’all.
My only worry is how well KH3 will review. It’s going to do well on everything but the story, I imagine.
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I’ll never stop saying it but when they played the old trailer from the concert, the crowd was already massively louder than it had been the entire presentation. When Nomura came out it got even louder. When that new trailer started rolling, the crowd’s screams were like a roar. When Toy Story came on sceeen, the room might as well have been exploding because it was so loud.
Sign, Dandelion, and I were sitting behind a row of Disney marketing staff and they literally were freaked out by just how insane the crowd got. One of the staff members who was monitoring streams of the presentation on her phone literally stopped because she was so shocked at the reaction around her.
The whole time the audience was politely excited about earlier stuff, but hardly raving. Then it was like a switch flipped. If they weren’t aware of what they actually have in their hands, they certainly know now.
Hell, one only need to look at their social media and see what the majority of comments were made at them were during D23 Expo Japan.
The trailers have gotten millions of views since releasing. If the main Disney account marketed the trailer, it’d probably explode even more.
Post KH3 is going to be a very weird and crazy time, y’all.
My only worry is how well KH3 will review. It’s going to do well on everything but the story, I imagine.
I guess I can't speak for the reviewers, but I am hoping having the Disney writers aiding the main team will at least make the Disney plots better written than ever, so maybe that will help parts of the story be better received lol. But yea, the main plot will probably be chastised a bit.
I am still low-key worried about how all the gameplay elements are balanced. Two friends of mine who haven't played since KH2 were saying that about the trailer yesterday, how they felt there is way too much being shown and not enough is really combat. Even though they acknowledged it may just be the way the trailers are cut and stuff. Which it definitely is to a point. I assured them its all optional also of course, but I mean for me, I want to utilize most of what's being offered ha.
The only KH thing I always forget to use are summons...I have a few fights I use them on but thats about it. And then of course farming with Bambi on 1, and doing all the dumb coliseum orb stuff in 2 with Stitch ha.
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I guess I can't speak for the reviewers, but I am hoping having the Disney writers aiding the main team will at least make the Disney plots better written than ever, so maybe that will help parts of the story be better received lol. But yea, the main plot will probably be chastised a bit.
I am still low-key worried about how all the gameplay elements are balanced. Two friends of mine who haven't played since KH2 were saying that about the trailer yesterday, how they felt there is way too much being shown and not enough is really combat. Even though they acknowledged it may just be the way the trailers are cut and stuff. Which it definitely is to a point. I assured them its all optional also of course, but I mean for me, I want to utilize most of what's being offered ha.
The only KH thing I always forget to use are summons...I have a few fights I use them on but thats about it. And then of course farming with Bambi on 1, and doing all the dumb coliseum orb stuff in 2 with Stitch ha.
They definitely seem to be focusing on showing off all of the technical feats they've made over anything else. I imagine that has to do with the fact they are probably very confident about the gameplay itself since that tends to be the strongest part about the games, even when there are some issues with it. I really wish they'd show us a full boss battle--nothing too big, just a small fight so we can understand the basics of combat.
The summons seem to be working more as Links now, so I'm hoping they have more use this time around. In BBS I found Linking to be extremely fun and useful, so if we are getting a mix of the utility of Links and the flash and fun of Summons in this new Link system, I'm totally down for it. Also, with how the shortcuts seem to be set up for multiple pages of shortcuts, I wonder if we will be able to set up instant summons. Like L1 + Square = Ariel Link so they aren't easy to just ignore when playing.
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They definitely seem to be focusing on showing off all of the technical feats they've made over anything else. I imagine that has to do with the fact they are probably very confident about the gameplay itself since that tends to be the strongest part about the games, even when there are some issues with it. I really wish they'd show us a full boss battle--nothing too big, just a small fight so we can understand the basics of combat.
The summons seem to be working more as Links now, so I'm hoping they have more use this time around. In BBS I found Linking to be extremely fun and useful, so if we are getting a mix of the utility of Links and the flash and fun of Summons in this new Link system, I'm totally down for it. Also, with how the shortcuts seem to be set up for multiple pages of shortcuts, I wonder if we will be able to set up instant summons. Like L1 + Square = Ariel Link so they aren't easy to just ignore when playing.
Hm, yea I get that. It does seem the very core gameplay is similar, the only thing I am unsure is if it has combo modifiers as abilities like KH2 or if we are going BBS and DDD where its always the same base combo. They did very briefly show off some normal combos in Corona in this trailer ha. But I also think that was to let Rapunzel and Eugene show off a little too lol. But yea I agree, instead of just clips we really need to see a full fight...even if its just one of the two they already revealed for Olympus again ha.
Yeah I noticed there was 3 tabs for shortcuts as well, it would be nice if summons were able to be set as well! I am unsure what the combination of the 2 would result in, but I agree I used D-links more as well.
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I am 1 of like 5 people who think Birth By Sleep is the best Kingdom Hearts game, so I'm happy with battle system.
I really do hope the datamined Water spells are in though.
My main concern is this, Keyblade transformations are based on hits done right?
Like that's how it charges?
If that's the case, doesn't that mean in the post game, they'll be useless since you 2 shot everything?
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I am 1 of like 5 people who think Birth By Sleep is the best Kingdom Hearts game, so I'm happy with battle system.
I really do hope the datamined Water spells are in though.
My main concern is this, Keyblade transformations are based on hits done right?
Like that's how it charges?
If that's the case, doesn't that mean in the post game, they'll be useless since you 2 shot everything?
Considering how much work they put into this game, I don't think it'd be hard for them to implement enemy difficulty scaling. For every level you go up, enemy levels go up so they aren't just easy pickings later on.
They'd also be smart to have an actual scaler where you can set the difficulty of enemies post-game with reward rarity tied to it. The higher the difficulty, the more rewards you get.
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do you gys think there will be famitsu one on one iniiview with nomura or no?
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Considering how much work they put into this game, I don't think it'd be hard for them to implement enemy difficulty scaling. For every level you go up, enemy levels go up so they aren't just easy pickings later on.
They'd also be smart to have an actual scaler where you can set the difficulty of enemies post-game with reward rarity tied to it. The higher the difficulty, the more rewards you get.
Didn't FF8 do that? Enemy levels rise with yours
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Didn't FF8 do that? Enemy levels rise with yours
Yep, and the ability to scale enemy difficulty is from TWEWY if I remember correctly.
In FF8 you had no influence on the enemy scaling as it was calculated automatically except in some places like the Islands to Heaven and Hell where enemies are always at max. level.
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Yep, and the ability to scale enemy difficulty is from TWEWY if I remember correctly.
In FF8 you had no influence on the enemy scaling as it was calculated automatically except in some places like the Islands to Heaven and Hell where enemies are always at max. level.
Right I have TWEWU, have to put it at a level to do the Secret noises
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My only worry is how well KH3 will review. It’s going to do well on everything but the story, I imagine.
I’m concerned about the reviews as well. While the gameplay and graphics look stellar, I think a lot of the casual fans and potential newcomers will be looking to see what reviewers say about the story before they buy it. Like Sora2016 said, scenarios and writing for the Disney worlds will likely be strong due to more collaborative work with the Disney team. The mostly original plots combined with film quality animation will set them over the top and be a huge draw for Disney fans wanting to see new stories with their favorite characters as opposed to rehashes. I’m not too worried there.
As far as the main plot goes, I’m afraid it’s going to be hit or miss. The key is that they not give in to the pressure to provide too much exposition, especially on what has transpired in the games released between 2 and 3. In my opinion, the focus should be on new character and plot development. If people want to know what has happened, they should play the other games or read up on them. We don’t need long-winded cutscenes explaining the minutiae of time travel or how exactly the old villains are alive and well. While I want answers to the more complex series questions, I think they should be fleshed out in supplemental forms, such as reports and optional side missions.
For those concerned that would take away depth from the plot, I’d say that the game is already set up to be deep with everything it has going on. The game WILL have a deep, complex story regardless due to the established premise. But presentation is key and it should be, well, simple and clean.
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Considering how much work they put into this game, I don't think it'd be hard for them to implement enemy difficulty scaling. For every level you go up, enemy levels go up so they aren't just easy pickings later on.
They'd also be smart to have an actual scaler where you can set the difficulty of enemies post-game with reward rarity tied to it. The higher the difficulty, the more rewards you get.
Funny you should mention that because Re:Coded is the only game that does that. Using the Stat Matrix you could raise the enemy difficulty for rare prizes, tamper with Data Sora's HP, and the CP to EXP ratio. I personally really enjoyed the Stat Matrix system and feel it's a bit overlooked by the negatives a lot of people point out.
So there really shouldn't be any reason why they can't implement this in KH3.
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I’m concerned about the reviews as well. While the gameplay and graphics look stellar, I think a lot of the casual fans and potential newcomers will be looking to see what reviewers say about the story before they buy it. Like Sora2016 said, scenarios and writing for the Disney worlds will likely be strong due to more collaborative work with the Disney team. The mostly original plots combined with film quality animation will set them over the top and be a huge draw for Disney fans wanting to see new stories with their favorite characters as opposed to rehashes. I’m not too worried there.
As far as the main plot goes, I’m afraid it’s going to be hit or miss. The key is that they not give in to the pressure to provide too much exposition, especially on what has transpired in the games released between 2 and 3. In my opinion, the focus should be on new character and plot development. If people want to know what has happened, they should play the other games or read up on them. We don’t need. ong-winded cutscenes explaining the minutiae of time travel or how exactly the old villains are alive and well. While I want answers to the more complex series questions, I think they should be fleshed out in supplemental forms, such as reports and optional side missions.
For those concerned that would take away depth from the plot, I’d say that the game is already set up to be deep with everything it has going on. The game WILL have a deep, complex story regardless due to the established premise. But presentation is key and it should be, well, simple and clean.
I'm actually a tad bit worried for post-KH3. At the same time I am glad to see Disney for once actually market KH's existence wider than ever. But I don't want to see a future for Kingdom Hearts as a series where the main approach will be about what's hot for Disney or shoehorn in Marvel, Star Wars propreties and whatever else from FOX without being connected to Kingdom Hearts storyline.
The very core of this series is Nomura's pitch of a ordinary boy who explores new worlds with friends to meet new long lasting bonds and build a connection within their hearts. It's about curiosity, maturity, sacrifice and lots of heart. I never want to see that go away from the series despite how milked it might get. As far as the future arc with Union X it still has the concept and heart of the story safe, but I just hope this won't be affected by Disney's insane marketing for Marvel & Star Wars.
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Of course, best case scenario, the '10 total' are all Disney worlds and we still have 5 more Disney worlds to go!
I think the roughly 10 are just Disney Worlds. This does not include the Original Worlds. The Disney Worlds for the most part are always gonna be more detail oriented then the Regular Ones and need more focus on them. Plus we go back to Nomura saying KH 3 would have less Disney Worlds then KH 2.
[So 10 Disney Worlds is what I think many of us predicted which means that even after the leaked ones (100 Acre Wood/Frozen) that leaves us with 3 more Disney Worlds that are unknown. And it's great cause it's more then KH 1.
This is what I'm hoping is the case. While it would be cool to see Twilight Town and Radiant Garden with bigger, city-sized maps, I don't want a potential additional Disney world exempted in place of an original world's inclusion.
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I'm actually a tad bit worried for post-KH3. At the same time I am glad to see Disney for once actually market KH's existence wider than ever. But I don't want to see a future for Kingdom Hearts as a series where the main approach will be about what's hot for Disney or shoehorn in Marvel, Star Wars propreties and whatever else from FOX without being connected to Kingdom Hearts storyline.
The very core of this series is Nomura's pitch of a ordinary boy who explores new worlds with friends to meet new long lasting bonds and build a connection within their hearts. It's about curiosity, maturity, sacrifice and lots of heart. I never want to see that go away from the series despite how milked it might get. As far as the future arc with Union X it still has the concept and heart of the story safe, but I just hope this won't be affected by Disney's insane marketing for Marvel & Star Wars.
I really don't think Disney is forcing them to do anything, I really think Disney being more involved at least with lending staff for writing and development of the worlds is nothing but good. To the point where if they don't do that after this I think the next game will feel worse. Tbh, the series needs to embrace its crossover nature with Disney more to reach more people, and also to be something truly unique.
I think they overtly said they still get to choose the worlds they want? Just cuz there are going to be 3 newer movies in the game, I assume the team just liked them like a lot of other people lol. Marvel and Star Wars may happen, but especially the latter may very well just be because Nomura is a fan lol. Unless they got a new writer or director, I don't see the main plot suddenly shifting...
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I really don't think Disney is forcing them to do anything, I really think Disney being more involved at least with lending staff for writing and development of the worlds is nothing but good. To the point where if they don't do that after this I think the next game will feel worse. Tbh, the series needs to embrace its crossover nature with Disney more to reach more people, and also to be something truly unique.
I think they overtly said they still get to choose the worlds they want? Just cuz there are going to be 3 newer movies in the game, I assume the team just liked them like a lot of other people lol. Marvel and Star Wars may happen, but especially the latter may very well just be because Nomura is a fan lol. Unless they got a new writer or director, I don't see the main plot suddenly shifting...
Marvel & Star Wars will happen eventually and I'm ok with that as long as it serves a part to the series story. You're right that they have been most the time in charge of what worlds they include. In some cases however Disney has been known to be a bit troubling with SE which can be found in the scrapped ideas for previous KH titles. Disney as a corporation is always looking for the easiest way to sell for an audience. And there is no denying that Disney's money maker is selling from Frozen, Disney Princesses, Marvel, Star Wars & Cars.
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I’ll never stop saying it but when they played the old trailer from the concert, the crowd was already massively louder than it had been the entire presentation. When Nomura came out it got even louder. When that new trailer started rolling, the crowd’s screams were like a roar. When Toy Story came on sceeen, the room might as well have been exploding because it was so loud.
Sign, Dandelion, and I were sitting behind a row of Disney marketing staff and they literally were freaked out by just how insane the crowd got. One of the staff members who was monitoring streams of the presentation on her phone literally stopped because she was so shocked at the reaction around her.
The whole time the audience was politely excited about earlier stuff, but hardly raving. Then it was like a switch flipped. If they weren’t aware of what they actually have in their hands, they certainly know now.
Hell, one only need to look at their social media and see what the majority of comments were made at them were during D23 Expo Japan.
The trailers have gotten millions of views since releasing. If the main Disney account marketed the trailer, it’d probably explode even more.
Post KH3 is going to be a very weird and crazy time, y’all.
My only worry is how well KH3 will review. It’s going to do well on everything but the story, I imagine.
I think KH 3 will be reviewed very well. I expect an A from everyone just like KH 2 got. The only place that didn't give KH 2 a good grade was IGN they gave it a C and till this day I do not take seriously at all what they say.
They definitely seem to be focusing on showing off all of the technical feats they've made over anything else. I imagine that has to do with the fact they are probably very confident about the gameplay itself since that tends to be the strongest part about the games, even when there are some issues with it. I really wish they'd show us a full boss battle--nothing too big, just a small fight so we can understand the basics of combat.
The summons seem to be working more as Links now, so I'm hoping they have more use this time around. In BBS I found Linking to be extremely fun and useful, so if we are getting a mix of the utility of Links and the flash and fun of Summons in this new Link system, I'm totally down for it. Also, with how the shortcuts seem to be set up for multiple pages of shortcuts, I wonder if we will be able to set up instant summons. Like L1 + Square = Ariel Link so they aren't easy to just ignore when playing.
I definitely think we will get all of that at E3. Demos and stuff and likely the SE day will be about KH 3.
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I am concerned Twilight Town will be an out of place linear copy paste from KHII.
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I am concerned Twilight Town will be an out of place linear copy paste from KHII.
There was so much of the town we never visited. They can easily expand on that, or even open up the map to the green hills or the god damn beach lol we also know there is a school there so we could visit that area. Open up the clocktower for exploration.
There is plenty to do to make Twilight Town refreshing. Even just making the existing buildings taller to add more depth to existing areas would help out a lot.
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It'd be nice if they showed Roxas and Xion going toTwilight Town's school during the end credits. Along with Hayner, Pence, and Olette of course.
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There was so much of the town we never visited. They can easily expand on that, or even open up the map to the green hills or the god damn beach lol we also know there is a school there so we could visit that area. Open up the clocktower for exploration.
There is plenty to do to make Twilight Town refreshing. Even just making the existing buildings taller to add more depth to existing areas would help out a lot.
Yeah I have been wanting to see how they handled Twilight Town...I'd like to see it and Radiant Garden soon, to know how its rebuilding has progressed between games as well. Hoping both have some new areas...but I also want the latter to let us go to the amazing gothic castle setting again lol. But I guess maybe that time has passed...
If it looks more gorgeous like BBS I could be fine too. All the wasted water they have spouting out of like every wall and corner just to be extra. But I love that hah.
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what i’m most curious of is whether or not kh3 is truly open world. if the gummi ship has a free-exploration mode, can sora just dive out of it when over a world? between that and how each individual level is it’s own seamless area akin to dragon age inquisition, have we finally reached peak KH? how cool would it be if you could view exactly where you’re over from the gummi ship and freefall down there? probably getting my hopes up for nothing, but man does that sound awesome haha
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I'm excited to see how Castle Oblivion will look in KH Shader. A small visit at Destiny Islands would also be very welcomed.
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what i’m most curious of is whether or not kh3 is truly open world. if the gummi ship has a free-exploration mode, can sora just dive out of it when over a world? between that and how each individual level is it’s own seamless area akin to dragon age inquisition, have we finally reached peak KH? how cool would it be if you could view exactly where you’re over from the gummi ship and freefall down there? probably getting my hopes up for nothing, but man does that sound awesome haha
Considering we couldn't go from Castle of Dreams -> Dwarf Woodlands -> Enchanted Dominion without loading screens I don't think that there will be a seamless jump from the Gummi ship to worlds.
I think you should prepare for a loading screen when going into worlds, but there won't be any or very few used throughout a map (such as going from Andy's House to Galaxy Toys. We don't know if you can walk there or if you'll just go through a loading screen).
I'm excited to see how Castle Oblivion will look in KH Shader. A small visit at Destiny Islands would also be very welcomed.
Some people have been going through 0.2's files and whatnot and I think they have determined that the Kingdom Shader is just a post processing shader. I believe this is akin to something like cell shading.
Like, for example, this is an area of Lego Dimensions without any additional shaders:
And here is one that uses cell shading to replicate the cartoon format:
For Kingdom Hearts, outside of original worlds, I think whatever the Kingdom Shader is set up to do is just to mimic whatever the movie looked like as closely as possible, but we haven't really seen that in effect in any of the Disney worlds - the models and everything all look the same. I guess the closest would be some of Olympus having a cartoony / 2D look to some of the assets.
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Considering we couldn't go from Castle of Dreams -> Dwarf Woodlands -> Enchanted Dominion without loading screens I don't think that there will be a seamless jump from the Gummi ship to worlds.
I think you should prepare for a loading screen when going into worlds, but there won't be any or very few used throughout a map (such as going from Andy's House to Galaxy Toys. We don't know if you can walk there or if you'll just go through a loading screen).
Some people have been going through 0.2's files and whatnot and I think they have determined that the Kingdom Shader is just a post processing shader. I believe this is akin to something like cell shading.
Like, for example, this is an area of Lego Dimensions without any additional shaders:
And here is one that uses cell shading to replicate the cartoon format:
i expect there to be SOME loading screens, however current gen is an entirely different animal than last gen. unreal 4 especially is a great example of an engine that handles loading in the background, it’d be a missed opportunity to invest all this effort into getting current-gen kingdom hearts and all we got is MORE instead of taking advantage of the tech and getting better. batman arkham knight was a massive title, to this day its the single best looking video game i’ve ever played. not a single loading screen beyond initial startup and that was developed using a mix of U3 and U4.
not trying to argue or get anyone’s hopes up, i’m just saying that they could conceivably do it if they wanted to.
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i expect there to be SOME loading screens, however current gen is an entirely different animal than last gen. unreal 4 especially is a great example of an engine that handles loading in the background, it’d be a missed opportunity to invest all this effort into getting current-gen kingdom hearts and all we got is MORE instead of taking advantage of the tech and getting better. batman arkham knight was a massive title, to this day its the single best looking video game i’ve ever played. not a single loading screen beyond initial startup and that was developed using a mix of U3 and U4.
not trying to argue or get anyone’s hopes up, i’m just saying that they could conceivably do it if they wanted to.
I forgot about Arkham Knight doing that (it was very well done) but that also had repeated assets. KH3 has a tonne of world exclusive assets that need to load every time you visit a world. This is a game that is bigger than Arkham Knight as well, and there's a lot more going on in each area. I'd rather they play it safe but it's ultimately up to Square Enix after they do their tests to see if it is viable.
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There was so much of the town we never visited. They can easily expand on that, or even open up the map to the green hills or the god damn beach lol we also know there is a school there so we could visit that area. Open up the clocktower for exploration.
There is plenty to do to make Twilight Town refreshing. Even just making the existing buildings taller to add more depth to existing areas would help out a lot.
If we do Wreck It Ralph I expect somehow for it to be accessed through Twilight Town.
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Some people have been going through 0.2's files and whatnot and I think they have determined that the Kingdom Shader is just a post processing shader. I believe this is akin to something like cell shading.
For Kingdom Hearts, outside of original worlds, I think whatever the Kingdom Shader is set up to do is just to mimic whatever the movie looked like as closely as possible, but we haven't really seen that in effect in any of the Disney worlds - the models and everything all look the same. I guess the closest would be some of Olympus having a cartoony / 2D look to some of the assets.
I see, yet do you think the original KH worlds such as TT, RG, DS & Daybreak Town would also try to make the engine follow a more Disney style?
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So, what do you guys think the pudding Heartless will look like? Besides pudding, of course.
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So, what do you guys think the pudding Heartless will look like? Besides pudding, of course.
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I expect it to look like what you see, Japanese pudding. Kinda shaped like the tip of a traffic cone with different fruit on top. Eyes and the Heartless insignia, of course.
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So, what do you guys think the pudding Heartless will look like? Besides pudding, of course.
Probably similar to the enemies in UX. I'm personally not really too excited about that, I guess they're going to be the new org13 mushrooms in a way, but all these cutesy dream eaters and candy flower toy heartless just aren't my aesthetic at all. I prefer KH1 style heartless and nobodies that actually look kinda threatening, but it is what it is. I'm glad there's extra stuff like this in the game already since it's usually only been a thing with FM.
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So, what do you guys think the pudding Heartless will look like? Besides pudding, of course.
I imagine somewhat like a KH version of the Flan monsters from Final Fantasy.
In the vein of what was said about KH being truly open world with seamlessly going from the Gummi Ship into the open worlds, I’ve been wanting to ask: is there a chance the big surprise Nomura is preparing for the end of the game being the convergence of the worlds into one open world? I have no clue how they could make it happen with how varied these worlds are. But it’s always been said that at one point all the worlds were one until darkness split them apart. I assumed if this happened it would take place in KH3’s epilogue. But is there any possibility it could actually occur and be playable in the game?
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Probably similar to the enemies in UX. I'm personally not really too excited about that, I guess they're going to be the new org13 mushrooms in a way, but all these cutesy dream eaters and candy flower toy heartless just aren't my aesthetic at all. I prefer KH1 style heartless and nobodies that actually look kinda threatening, but it is what it is. I'm glad there's extra stuff like this in the game already since it's usually only been a thing with FM.
I like a mixture myself, I simultaneously love cutesy things and also badass things lol. So I do hope in the worlds where it makes sense, we got some rad Heartless like Invisibles or Angel Stars. That one big turtle monster Unversed looked kinda cool to me? The little puppet snake one not so much lol.
Honestly I have only caught a few Heartless so far, the toy space soldier in Toy Story, I noticed some kind of bandit/jester thing in Tangled this past trailer. And then there were those horn wielding warriors and new flying soldier Heartless in Olympus.
For Kingdom Hearts, outside of original worlds, I think whatever the Kingdom Shader is set up to do is just to mimic whatever the movie looked like as closely as possible, but we haven't really seen that in effect in any of the Disney worlds - the models and everything all look the same. I guess the closest would be some of Olympus having a cartoony / 2D look to some of the assets.
I dunno, so I think it may just be the textures they are using in general but just looking at the new renders alone, the way the Monsters are textured is way more 3D and "realistic" than Mickey. Who looks super flat, but also not flat? Donald and Goofy default to looking like him as well, they all are super smooth I think. So yeah, the best way I can describe it is the Monsters Inc characters look textured in comparison. And that's most notable on Donald and Goofy themselves, since its such a drastic change for them.
The Toy Story ones have a different smoothness as well obviously, as its a plastic shine. But I mean, overall, I feel like the "shader" could be having an even more distinct effect?
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I guess my Hercules Olympus exception theory is pretty bogus based on the zero responses. lol
I guess I was too into it with exploring potential possibilities in world development in all nooks and crannies. :p
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Here’s my artist’s rendition of what I personally think it might look like.
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