E3 2016: Kingdom Hearts HD 2.8 Final Chapter Prologue Hands-On Walkthrough
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- Published on June 14, 2016 @ 03:05 pm
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Today marks the official start of E3 2016, which means endless news about all of the demos available on the showroom floor. A few weeks back ahead of E3, I was given the chance to try out Kingdom Hearts HD 2.8 Final Chapter Prologue with my fellow staff member Mike at DisneyExaminer. Both Kingdom Hearts Dream Drop Distance HD and Kingdom Hearts 0.2 Birth By Sleep — A fragmentary passage — were available to play, so check out my impressions below:
Kingdom Hearts Dream Drop Distance HD
The demo station for Kingdom Hearts Dream Drop Distance HD had three different option to choose from: Riku - La Cité des Cloches, Riku - The Grid, and Sora - Traverse Town.
La Cité des Cloches is based on Disney’s 1996 animated film The Hunchback of Notre Dame, and begins with Riku in the courtyard outside of the Notre Dame Cathedral. Riku arrives just as Quasimodo rescues Esmerelda from being executed by the ruthless, god-fearing Judge Frollo. Players have full access to roam the outside courtyard and the interior of Notre Dame before rushing in to fight Wargoyle in the skies above the courtyard.
In the second demo available for Riku, players are given access to the Grid from 2011’s TRON: Legacy. The demo starts right from the beginning of the world when Riku is captured by a Recognizer and forced to into the Games. After breaking out of the Games, Riku runs into Sam Flynn who tells him about an exit from the digital world they are trapped in. As Riku explores the city, it finally leads to Riku fighting off against a ton of enemy Dream Eaters.
As Sora, players can explore the Fourth District of Traverse Town and fight against hordes of adorable Dream Eaters leading up to the boss battle against Hockomonkey in the Fifth District.
Immediately it is obvious from all of these different fragments of Dream Drop Distance that a considerable amount of work has been done to update the visuals in Dream Drop Distance HD. No longer is the game riddled with jagged edges caused by the low quality output on the Nintendo 3DS, instead feeling as though the game should have always been released on a home console. The characters look smooth and crisp, allowing for all of the detailed texturing done to them to finally be fully appreciated. The large areas from Dream Drop Distance also translate very well to a larger screen due to a brand new camera that allows you full view of everything around Riku and Sora.
Despite having over 100 hours clocked in on my copy of Kingdom Hearts 3D [Dream Drop Distance], I actually found it hard to adjust to playing Dream Drop Distance HD with the Dualshock 4 due to the buttons commands being remapped to match up with the standard controls for Kingdom Hearts in the west.
I don’t even want to begin to mention an unfortunate inverted camera which I was assured could be changed in the final version of the game. Much of my time trying out the demo was me rolling into a wall and Flowmotioning into enemies and healing constantly because I couldn’t get my bearings with the camera.
For anybody who was worried about the touch controls that were prominent on the Nintendo 3DS not translating well to the Playstation 4, plenty of them have been reworked and are just as intuitive as they were originally. On the Dualshock 4, you can press the touch pad to bring up a full map of the area you are. When you press right on the D-pad from the command deck, players have the option of swapping out their Dream Eaters, and left from the command deck allows you to activate your a single or dual link with your Dream Eaters. Reality Shifts have been changed to work with a standard Cross button and the right direction stick input.
The controls aren’t the only thing that have been updated for this HD remaster. We had been told before that there would be nothing new in Kingdom Hearts Dream Drop Distance HD, but in Sora’s demo there was a brand new Dream Eater available to play with. Catnuki, a strange Meow Wow-tanuki hybrid with a green leaf on its forehead, plump brown body, and cute striped tail charmed its way around the screen. Sadly, there was no way to tell what kind of skills Catnuki had due to the demo not granting full access to the main menu.
When I found Catnuki, a Square Enix rep told us that there were more new Dream Eaters to discover in the full edition of Dream Drop Distance HD. Although this remaster is not a Final Mix version of the game, it is exciting to know that the developers found time while completely rebuilding Dream Drop Distance for the PlayStation 4 to make additions.
Kingdom Hearts 0.2 Birth By Sleep – A fragmentary passage –
Spoiler warning: Details about Kingdom Hearts 0.2 Birth By Sleep – A fragmentary passage – will be discussed in-depth.
Kingdom Hearts 0.2 Birth By Sleep – A fragmentary passage – is probably one of the most highly anticipated games inside of this collection due to being the prologue to Kingdom Hearts III. For years fans had been asking for a continuation of Aqua’s time in the Realm of Darkness, and 0.2 Birth By Sleep delivers just that as Aqua searches for a way out. As she crosses the wastelands filled with Heartless, she comes across a familiar sight: Castle of Dreams, the home of Cinderella.
Aqua begins to cross the expansive threshold of the land leading up to the gates of the castle. Suddenly a clock strikes, and the ground just before Aqua’s feet crumbles. Although time does not move in the Realm of Darkness, it seems that every time the clock moves, time moves forward and a fragment of the world is lost. With her curiosity piqued, Aqua sees a glowing gold gear in the distance. Once she finds the gear, she hits it with her Keyblade and suddenly a fragment of the ground rebuilds part of the pathway to the castle. With the gears, time can be reversed in order to repair the pathway. Aqua sets out to find five gears which can be found in the town just behind her.
The game gives you control of Aqua after that, and already you can see just how drastically different Aqua’s model in 0.2 Birth By Sleep is from her model in Birth By Sleep Final Mix. Her walking and running animations are so much more fluid than they ever were in Birth By Sleep.
As Aqua walks up the path into town, Heartless appear to block Aqua’s way. Shadows make a return alongside a brand-new inky bat Heartless. This is where players get their first taste of the combat system, marking the return to the basic command menu system present in Kingdom Hearts and Kingdom Hearts II. The available commands are “Attack,” “Magic,” and “Items” as our three available choices. Under “Magic”, we have access to Firaga, Blizzaga, Thundaga, and Cura. Magic points (MP) return in 0.2 Birth By Sleep and works like Kingdom Hearts II’s system where the bar reloads after all MP is consumed. Items available to Aqua in the demo are Hi-Potions. There is also a Focus bar, which will be discussed later on.
In the R1 shortcuts, there are multiple pages which seems to imply that there might be a lot of spells and items to be consumed in the game. Each page links your spells to a specific face button on the controller.
For battle commands, Square is used to block and dodge, Circle is used to jump and recover from attacks, Cross is used to attack, and Triangle is used to interact with the environment like opening chests.
When I tried out the available spells, I was absolutely blown away by everything about them. Fire looks extremely explosive, thunder makes the field sizzle with electricity, and blizzard expands in extremely realistic looking ice spikes. It isn’t just the visuals that the development team has nailed, but also the effects that they have on the field and on enemies as well.
As Aqua explores the town, she reacts to points of interest in the distance. The camera pans to the area we are meant to focus on and Aqua will provide a remark about the area (i.e. “I think I can see something on that bridge” and “Interesting, there seems to be an underground passage over there”).
The town itself is massive and beautifully rendered in Unreal Engine 4, with blue crystals glowing from the cracks and broken bits of Cinderella’s world. The world expands vertically and horizontally, and almost every rooftop can be climbed on, returning us to the expansive platforming found in Kingdom Hearts and Kingdom Hearts 3D [Dream Drop Distance]. There were times when I fell off very high-up pathway to a gear and fell off, causing me to have to climb all the way back around and up again. Thankfully, the new “Free Run” mechanic is available in the demo so a lot of the tedious aspects of needing to be precise when jumping onto lampposts that serve as a path is gone because it will automatically move Aqua across as players push the direction stick in a desired direction.
As you find more gears, new functions are unlocked including Shotlocks and Command Styles. Shotlocks are much more fluid than their Birth By Sleep counterpart. It takes a few seconds of holding R2 to wait for it to appear, but once the Shotlock focus appears on screen you can easily aim it on the enemies you need to defeat. In this demo, you could use Prism Rain to shoot enemies with well-timed light beams. You consume Focus every time you use Prism Rain, but orbs to refill the bar are dropped by enemies or can be found through hitting lampposts.
For Command Styles, they do not activate instantly and instead must be triggered by pressing the Triangle button once the gauge for it appears. Players have a limited time to activate the available Command Style, a much-wanted improvement to the way it was in Birth By Sleep. For the demo I played, only Spellweaver was available to use. It should be noted that this appears to be how Attraction Flow works in Kingdom Hearts III.
There is another brand-new Heartless in this demo that goes aggro when you hit it enough times. Once it is in an aggro-state, its entire body turns into fire and the Heartless zooms across the field to attack. In this state, it is invincible and can only be hit by using Blizzard magic.
Once Aqua finds all five gears, the ground is completely repaired so she returns to the pathway to the castle. Just as she approaches the gate before the castle courtyard, she is attacked by a tornado of Shadows. The first thing that is apparent is that these enemies have more orange-colored eyes than the standard gold they used to be in previous games. There are stray Shadows that can attack you independent from the giant cyclone horde, but when you defeat them they drop HP/MP/Focus orbs to help Aqua in a pinch.
The horde enemy has multiple attacks, including a swipe attack that can knock Aqua off of her feet. Another is a basic push attack, and then there is an attack where the Shadows spread out and regroup right under Aqua’s feet to throw her into the air. Any of these attacks can trap Aqua into a combo that can easily kill her, do players must do their best to dodge at the appropriate times.
Once the enemy is defeated and Aqua continues her journey into the courtyard, Aqua begins to talk about how she wishes she could rewind time just like the gears did to fix the past and spend another night under the stars with Terra and Ventus. Just as she is telling herself that she is getting depressed again, Terra appears out of nowhere on the steps leading up to the castle doors.
Understandably, Aqua begins to freak out as she begins asking Terra why he is there in the Realm of Darkness, worrying that something has happened in the Realm of Light. Just as Aqua reaches her hand out to touch Terra’s hand, her hand passes through his.
Aqua becomes visibly upset, remarking that he must be some kind of illusion to convince herself not to give up, but Terra merely smiles and disappears in gold sparkles. Dissappointed, Aqua shakes her head and continues heading up the steps, bringing the demo to a close.
For being just a demo, it was some of the best work I’ve seen from the Kingdom Hearts team. The game runs like butter, marking itself as the ultimate form of Kingdom Hearts we have all been waiting for over the years. Fans should be excited for the release of Kingdom Hearts HD 2.8 Final Chapter Prologue when it releases this December worldwide.
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COMMENTS
well tera not real theroy is ocnfirmed
God, I'm so pleased with 0.2. Like, Aqua commenting on the field? PERFECT. This is the kind of current gen stuff Kingdom Hearts needs to evolve to.
Also, the demo ended at the castle? So, I wonder how much longer the proper game is...
GIVE US CHIRITHY
About 0.2... Did it FEEL good? Like, fluid and punchy like Kingdom Hearts 1 & 2? Give it to me straight. I can take it.
OH GOSH WHY DID YOU HAVE TO DO THIS TO ME! I am even more hyped now.
Also, I was right, heh. Told ya, Terra isn't real. (but we all knew that, didn't we) :p
Okay, err, how long did it take you to complete the 0.2 Demo? Because fuck, that sounds like it's the full game, while it's not. lol okay i need to chill, i cant even talk properly rn
Just wondering, what does the command deck looks like, did they change anything? did they add an extra layer to look like BBS so instead of seeing 2 commands, you see 3?
Saw the bits of video on Toominator from KH13's Twitter. The game looked amazing!! And the attacks are pretty badass. And I'm not gonna lie, from what I saw of Terra, he handsome. And it ended at the Castle? Makes me feel like there's more to 0.2.
Just wondering, what does the command deck looks like, did they change anything? did they add an extra layer to look like BBS so instead of seeing 2 commands, you see 3?
There is no Command Deck. It's the Command Menu. Didn't you read?
This is where players get their first taste of the combat system, marking the return to the basic command menu system present in Kingdom Heartsand Kingdom Hearts II. |
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Saw the bits of video on Toominator from KH13's Twitter. The game looked amazing!! And the attacks are pretty badass. And I'm not gonna lie, from what I saw of Terra, he handsome.
POST THE LINKS PLEEEASSEEEE
POST THE LINKS PLEEEASSEEEE
If you want me to do that, you're gonna have to fight me for it, laddie.
New Dreameaters? That's awesome! Maybe there will be new bosses as well.
0.2 sounds so good! Like someone mentioned earlier, the on the field commenting would be great. It's something I liked in Uncharted and now it looks like KH is finally doing it. I like that the KH2 magic bar has returned. The heartless that can only be defeated by certain magic is good to incorporate more strategy. Reminds me of the Phantom fight just as regular drone Heartless this time. Overall I am so hyped and jealous you got to try it out already!
How was the music? What did it sound like, O Great Spocky?
About 0.2... Did it FEEL good? Like, fluid and punchy like Kingdom Hearts 1 & 2? Give it to me straight. I can take it.
Yeah man, give us some game feel deets. Was enemy knock back prevalent in your experience or did they pull the plug on it?
Everything about 0.2 souds so good! Aqua commenting stuff, platforming with free run, interesting sounding enemies, new Dream Eaters in DDD! I am so happy that I could explode.
I skipped a few bits so I won't spoil everything. Hnggg, were are thou December!? D8
Yeah man, give us some game feel deets. Was enemy knock back prevalent in your experience or did they pull the plug on it?
Thanks Ashton. You always got my back n shit
I'm curious now about how long 0.2 is gonna be since that scene with Terra is in there, which I thought for sure that would be an endgame thing. Then again, we still haven't seen Mickey with Aqua, so I'm wondering what else is in store for us :p
BTW, is Aqua's cartwheel still invincible?
Okay, here's the title screen for those that are curious:
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AARGH, I love it!
Also, I saw the gameplay. I. WANT. TO. PLAY. IT. NOW!
How was the music? What did it sound like, O Great Spocky?
Nothing new.
Also, here's the Dream Eater!
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https://twitter.com/khizephyr/status/742802608105000960?lang=de
Nothing new.
So same music from Secret Episode? Not that hurt by it, but considering what you did play, I wouldn't be surprised of back and forth between past and present since Mickey did say he met Aqua in the Realm of Darkness
15 minutes to play the demo. Definitely not the full thing by any means.
About 0.2... Did it FEEL good? Like, fluid and punchy like Kingdom Hearts 1 & 2? Give it to me straight. I can take it.
It felt buttery smooth and punchy. Every hit feels like it has weight behind it. As for Ashton's question on kickback, enemies get knocked back but can break out of them. Feels like KH2...
This is shaping up to be a worthwhile collection. I cannot wait for Tai Yasue's walkthrough.
15 minutes to play the demo. Definitely not the full thing by any means.
It felt buttery smooth and punchy. Every hit feels like it has weight behind it. As for Ashton's question on kickback, enemies get knocked back but can break out of them. Feels like KH2...
That's so exciting to hear.
Not sure if I mentioned that magic affects enemies. Freeze with blizzard, burn with fire, stun with thunder...
Not sure if I mentioned that magic affects enemies. Freeze with blizzard, burn with fire, stun with thunder...
Hmm....very interesting....and cool!
I wish they'd put the demo up on PSN ;-;
15 minutes to play the demo. Definitely not the full thing by any means.
It felt buttery smooth and punchy. Every hit feels like it has weight behind it. As for Ashton's question on kickback, enemies get knocked back but can break out of them. Feels like KH2...
Thank you based Spockanort
I wish they'd put the demo up on PSN ;-;
^this DDx
Also, they say DDD HD runs at 60 fps -- is that true?
I'm glad that it sounds like the attacks have weight to them. Soraalm1 will probably be pleased by that. LOL.
And that apparently there are a lot of ways for Aqua to get caught in an enemy combo and easily killed: this makes me hope that 0.2 and III won't have the problem that II did in being way too easy.
I'm also so psyched that platforming is back, but with the free fun ability. Sounds like a match made in heaven, tbh. (I loved the idea of platforming in KH so much, even though the execution wasn't good, so I'm glad it's back in a better way.)
I really pray I didn't spoil too much for myself by reading all this, though (here's hoping the entire game is actually much longer than what we've seen so far). But even if I did, I can take it, because knowing that Aqua talks about the environment is getting me ecstatic for the idea that maybe Sora will talk to his friends on the map! OMG. That would be so cool. We need stuff like that in KH!
How's Willa Holland sound in the demo, btw?:)
And OMG. The tail of that new Dream Eater makes me think of a beaver. LOL. And with the leaf on its head, I imagine that it specializes in healing?
I wonder if they'll add any said new Dream Eaters to the end credits DDD scene.
I also wonder what the lovely creature's name is. Haha.
Terra's face.... :frown:
Is that true about 3D and 60fps???
Thank you Masser Spobbanord for giving us this gift.
I'm glad that it sounds like the attacks have weight to them. Soraalm1 will probably be pleased by that. LOL.
And that apparently there are a lot of ways for Aqua to get caught in an enemy combo and easily killed: this makes me hope that 0.2 and III won't have the problem that II did in being way too easy.
I'm also so psyched that platforming is back, but with the free fun ability. Sounds like a match made in heaven, tbh. (I loved the idea of platforming in KH so much, even though the execution wasn't good, so I'm glad it's back in a better way.)
I really pray I didn't spoil too much for myself by reading all this, though (here's hoping the entire game is actually much longer than what we've seen so far). But even if I did, I can take it, because knowing that Aqua talks about the environment is getting me ecstatic for the idea that maybe Sora will talk to his friends on the map! OMG. That would be so cool. We need stuff like that in KH!
How's Willa Holland sound in the demo, btw?:)
And OMG. The tail of that new Dream Eater makes me think of a beaver. LOL. And with the leaf on its head, I imagine that it specializes in healing?
I wonder if they'll add any said new Dream Eaters to the end credits DDD scene.
I also wonder what the lovely creature's name is. Haha.
The name is
Catnuki. I… guess because Cat + Tanuki = Catnuki or something? lol idk
can i post something that kh13 found in a tibbits in a intview?
Sounds super good so far, oh man… I don't get how anyone could be complaining about not getting KH3 right now when we have something like this coming soon! "Feels like KH2" is the best KH news in years for me.
Okay, so from a very recent interview with Nomura, the length of BBS 0.2 is actually the length of a Kingdom Hearts III world.
Okay, so from a very recent interview with Nomura, the length of BBS 0.2 is actually the length of a Kingdom Hearts III world.
Sourcey, pleasey~
New Dream Eater and actual comments about the environment! Only thing I'm sad about is KH2's MP system being back lol, but I can live.
Everything else is so exciting!
Apparently dengeki deleted the page? I can't find it... Maybe they showed it a bit too early lol
The snippets are interesting, but I wonder what does Nomura mean there would be difficulties adding TWEWY characters into KH3?
I wish they'd put the demo up on PSN ;-;
ALLLL OF THIS. Resident Evil 7 got revealed at E3 this year and they released a Playstation Plus exclusive demo on PSN very early this morning. I wish the 2.8 demo would get released on PSN in a similar fashion.
Also, I am very happy to hear that 0.2 will be the length of a world in Kingdom Hearts 3. Its good to know that it won't be a 10 minute long prologue at least.
60fps Kingdom Hearts 3D confirmed!!! Finally!
Apparently dengeki deleted the page? I can't find it... Maybe they showed it a bit too early lol
The snippets are interesting, but I wonder what does Nomura mean there would be difficulties adding TWEWY characters into KH3?
probally he deosnt have the right to them
But he was the main character designer and was one of the producers, you'd think he'd have the rights though. Maybe we'll get the details why when the translation is finished.
But he was the main character designer and was one of the producers, you'd think he'd have the rights though. Maybe we'll get the details why when the translation is finished.
Then I hope it is decently long or it'll be another thing I'll worry about for KH3.
Directors of games in a company like S-E do not own any rights to characters. The parent company S-E owns the rights to such characters.
Then I hope it is decently long or it'll be another thing I'll worry about for KH3.
"Tetsuya Nomura promises that this volume will be a decent length."
Directors of games in a company like S-E do not own any rights to characters. The parent company S-E owns the rights to such characters.
i dont know then why they having diffuclt then
Disney may not approve. Square-Enix may not approve. Maybe they have their own plans for the characters/TWEWY and don't want to muddle things, maybe Nomura doesn't want a full-fledged Shibuya world so how to have them return without needing to show the world could be hard, etc.
"Tetsuya Nomura promises that this volume will be a decent length."
How'd the heck I miss that? However, that's good to know.
probally disney doesn't approve
Well, if anything, I expect the size and hence the time to complete a world would be longer than in KH2.
Spockanort! Did it have no loading screens?!
Spockanort! Did it have no loading screens?!
I just watched a full play through on youtube, it has a loading screen before the final cutscene.
Spockanort! Did it have no loading screens?!
It does.
[video=youtube;qNJqpzjyTys]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qNJqpzjyTys[/video]
I-if it has a decent length and is about as long as a KH 3 world.
Then KH3 worlds will be DAMN AWESOME IN LENGTH ;_;
Was that Master Eraqus keyblade Aqua was using in the gameplay?
Was that Master Eraqus keyblade Aqua was using in the gameplay?
Yes. She obtains it in the end of BBS.
Was that Master Eraqus keyblade Aqua was using in the gameplay?
Yes, she has had it since the Final Episode in the original Birth by Sleep.
WHAT WAS THAT VERTICAL SPINNY MOVE?!
Just watched the full demo that SkywardWing posted up on his channel and it looks like the power of the Shotlocks has been somewhat reduced to me. Thank God. (Either that, or that one's not completely leveled up, but here's hoping for the former).
That description of the Aqua gameplay has me SO HYPED for 0.2 and KH3. It sounds like the gameplay was really worked on and runs smoothly. I am really curious what we find inside the castle. If getting the gears was just the beginning tutorial, there must be so much more inside the castle. I MUST KNOW!!!
Wow, I just checked the 3D gameplay out.
That game looks fucking sexy with 60 fps.
from nomura kingdom hearts hearts twittter post
[video=youtube;aAASSC_4iCQ]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aAASSC_4iCQ[/video]
WHAT WAS THAT VERTICAL SPINNY MOVE?!
What? Are you talking about Spell Weaver?
Thanks for the footage, I'm as exited for DDD's new content as I'm appalled by Terra's face.
Like seriously, what's going on at SE?
from nomura kingdom hearts hearts twittter post
[video=youtube;aAASSC_4iCQ]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aAASSC_4iCQ[/video]
Oh shit, that 0.2 SOUNDTRACK. THAT DDD HD GAMEPLAY.
THAT VIDEO!
from nomura kingdom hearts hearts twittter post
[video=youtube;aAASSC_4iCQ]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aAASSC_4iCQ[/video]
Getting to hear the music and effects is even better gah!
Also, others have already said it, but I hope Chirithy is a Dream Eater party member and that they aren't all just fancy versions of older Dream Eaters, but I suppose I could live with the latter if they are all interesting still.
Are those BBS Battle Qotes?
from nomura kingdom hearts hearts twittter post
[video=youtube;aAASSC_4iCQ]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aAASSC_4iCQ[/video]
ugh 60fps
Lol like i said they blew half the budget on Aqua's face.
I'm convinced that the models are ok, it's the lighting that is wonky as heck in some parts. Some parts Aqua looks down right gorgeous. Other times, she looks awkward and shiny. And Terra... boy, the lighting did a number on him. He pants look like leather and it looks like the color has drained out of his face. Must be Xehanort's fault.
Players: KH3D is alright, framerate is pretty terrible
Square doubles it in the remaster.
Very exciting stuff
from nomura kingdom hearts hearts twittter post
[video=youtube;aAASSC_4iCQ]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aAASSC_4iCQ[/video]
Ugh, going from 3D's smooth 60fps to 0.2's 30 made me feel pain. And my God, does that 0.2 gameplay look awful. Is this thing in alpha?
Aldo: Some graphics nerds that are really into PC gaming (and they're very LOUD about this) want 60 FPS on all their games. They even made a mod that lets you have the PC version of the FFX collection run at 60 FPS (tho that isn't finished yet/has bugs last I heard)..
Me, I'm happy if my games play nice and smooth and have enough frames per second not to be herky jerky. I think you agree with me, yes?
Anyway the fact that 0.2 plays like KH2 really makes me smile. I think KH2 had the most solid of the battle systems so far, and I can't wait to play 2.8. ^^
Holy shit I'm missing lots of stuff!!!!! *Beginning to panic* MUST GET CAUGHT UP! AHH!!!!
Thanks for the footage, I'm as exited for DDD's new content as I'm appalled by Terra's face.
Like seriously, what's going on at SE?
That's compressed weirdly. It doesn't look like that IRL.
Aldo: Some graphics nerds that are really into PC gaming (and they're very LOUD about this) want 60 FPS on all their games. They even made a mod that lets you have the PC version of the FFX collection run at 60 FPS (tho that isn't finished yet/has bugs last I heard)..
Me, I'm happy if my games play nice and smooth and have enough frames per second not to be herky jerky. I think you agree with me, yes?
Well, fast-paced games benefit the most from high frame rates and Kingdom Hearts is definitely one of the best candidates.
Aldo: Some graphics nerds that are really into PC gaming (and they're very LOUD about this) want 60 FPS on all their games.
All games should run at 60fps tho.
That's compressed weirdly. It doesn't look like that IRL.
Ah, compression. The bane of my existence.
All games should run at 60fps tho.
no. no they should not.
no. no they should not.
What problem do you have with 60fps? I'm genuinely curious, as it's pretty much the standard as far as PC gaming goes. From a technical standpoint, Dream Drop Distance running at 60fps is really impressive, especially for this series.
no. no they should not.
Cool vague complaints. Super contrary. Everyone is amazed.
I'll admit, 60 fps DDD looks pretty good.
And once again, compression is the Bane of my existence. It broke my back once.
I don't like 60 fps, because they give me a headache, so I am very much satisfied with 30 fps.
I like it when there is the option to choose between them, that way I can stick to my comfortable 30 fps, and others can utilise their wondrous 60 fps. Everyone is happy.
I don't like 60 fps, because they give me a headache, so I am very much satisfied with 30 fps.
I like it when there is the option to choose between them, that way I can stick to my comfortable 30 fps, and others can utilise their wondrous 60 fps. Everyone is happy.
That's probably your eye trying to adjust. Cause the more you raise the frame-rate, the closer to real life motion looks like. That's like saying that real life motion gives you a headache.
That's probably your eye trying to adjust. Cause the more you raise the frame-rate, the closer to real life motion looks like. That's like saying that real life motion gives you a headache.
What the-?
No. Like, I don't even know how that makes sense. How could staring at a TV be like real lif motion, no matter the frames.
i don't like it because typically looks awful and artificial, like the footage of daytime soaps on HD TVs, and what it adds to games is very minimal, only helping a slight few, yet everyone acts like it should objectively be the standard. more important is a consistent framerate imo.
this articles gets into it a bit if anyone is interested:
The Framerate Debate: Why Videogames Need To Take A Film Theory Class
But honestly, i don't care if you agree with me or not, that's why i didn't bother explaining it in the first place. It's just an off-the-cuff comment of how I feel, it wasn't meant to be a persuasive argument.
Cool vague complaints. Super contrary. Everyone is amazed.
oh shut the diddly up launchpad, like you're known for your meaningful discourse. give me a break.
Thanks for the footage, I'm as exited for DDD's new content as I'm appalled by Terra's face.
Like seriously, what's going on at SE?
I'm getting more and more convinced that the worst thing about these games will be how the characters look
I've been watching animation progression reels and I think the problem is that (like others have have said) the lighting is really off. The character models look incomplete, like they've been modeled and everything but they're still not ready for the final production.
[video=youtube;WyQZ--fBNfc]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WyQZ--fBNfc[/video]
They remind me of how animated characters look at second-to-last stage, around 1:19. Their skin isn't one color per se, but it still doesn't look alive, again due to unfinished lighting
What the-?
No. Like, I don't even know how that makes sense. How could staring at a TV be like real lif motion, no matter the frames.
Well.. think it over I guess..
i don't like it because typically looks awful and artificial, like the footage of daytime soaps on HD TVs, and what it adds to games is very minimal, only helping a slight few, yet everyone acts like it should objectively be the standard. more important is a consistent framerate imo.
this articles gets into it a bit if anyone is interested:
The Framerate Debate: Why Videogames Need To Take A Film Theory Class
But honestly, i don't care if you agree with me or not, that's why i didn't bother explaining it in the first place. It's just an off-the-cuff comment of how I feel, it wasn't meant to be a persuasive argument.
oh shut the diddly up launchpad, like you're known for your meaningful discourse. give me a break.
The person who writes this article is completely ignorant though. And biased, but that's obvious.
[FONT=Georgia]The fact that cinema is 24 frames per second is important. This is how our eyes have learned to read a moving image. Disruptions of that, like Peter Jackson’s experiment with doubling the framerate for [/FONT] The Hobbit, confuse us and keep us focused on the form of the moving image rather than the whole picture, so to speak. |
Cringe-worthy.
I'm getting more and more convinced that the worst thing about these games will be how the characters look
I've been watching animation progression reels and I think the problem is that (like others have have said) the lighting is really off. The character models look incomplete, like they've been modeled and everything but they're still not ready for the final production.
They remind me of how animated characters look at second-to-last stage, around 1:19. Their skin isn't one color per se, but it still doesn't look alive, again due to unfinished lighting
Well.. think it over I guess..
Oh forgive me, our lord and savior.
The person who writes this article is completely ignorant though. And biased, but that's obvious.
oh my god. i quit.
Oh forgive me, our lord and savior.
Well what is that hard to grasp? Your eyes are sensitive to low frame-rates, subconsciously even. The higher the frame rate, the less your eyes get tired by the fast motion.
I haven't caught up with the thread yet, forgive me, but I made an article for the footage: Watch: Footage of Kingdom Hearts HD DDD and 0.2 Birth by Sleep - News - Kingdom Hearts Insider
"Feels like KH2" is the best KH news in years for me.
It's funny... for so many years hearing that KHIII would be like KHII gameplay-wise would've been my worst nightmare, tbh.
But now that II.5 finally gave me the chance to play KHII Final Mix, I couldn't agree with you more. LOL. The Final Mix version of KHII has the best gameplay in this series, imo, so this is really good news to me and I say bring it on! ^_^
Since the 0.2 demo was just a bit of the whole thing, I wonder if there will be another boss.
oh shut the diddly up launchpad, like you're known for your meaningful discourse. give me a break.
youchie mama. Been building that one up for a while eh? I like to think I explain myself when it comes to shit I like and dislike, but by all means, keep lording over me
I am so turned on right now.
I can't wait to meet Catnuki~
Since the 0.2 demo was just a bit of the whole thing, I wonder if there will be another boss.
I would certainly hope so, that thing was definitely a mini-boss at best.
no. no they should not.
Yes. Yes they should, fam. And they will.
Give me 60fps or give me death!
Man, I missed the exciting news and the snarkshow? Stupid summer classes.
Welp, as someone who was extremely pleased with the original DDD in all its low framerate-ness, I gotta say that this looks gorgeous and I'm 100% sold. And if Fragmentary Passage really does feel like KH2... well, that's excellent news in itself, but more importantly, this means that KH3 will feel the same way too. Couldn't be happier.
I'm curious did they improve the hitstun in DDD in 2.8? I'm watching the videos and it looks like Riku's attacks are for the most part making the dream eaters reel, especially in that trailer during the style the enemies are flinching like crazy and Riku actually *gasp* canceled an enemy attack with his style which I don't think I've ever seen happen usually you just bounce off or be canceled out yourself. Or is the new frame rate just giving the illusion they are flinching?
Also mother of god I immediately am in love with how they changed up the reality shifts. Just summoning a giant web of light you can travel around freely is sooo much better then pausing the game to draw a whole path.
Ah, a new Dream Eater! Well, Catnuki is just another Meow Wow, but it's still a new Dream eater so I'm excited!
0.2 looks simply amazing! Thank you guys so much for the footage!
Thanks for the footage, I'm as exited for DDD's new content as I'm appalled by Terra's face.
Like seriously, what's going on at SE?
It doesn't look all that bad considering it's a screenshot from a camera and not from, say a capture device or official release shot from SE.
Now his pants. Those bother me. They just don't look right.
....And his shoulder thingy looks like plastic.
That's compressed weirdly. It doesn't look like that IRL.
Since the 0.2 demo was just a bit of the whole thing, I wonder if there will be another boss.
What are you talking about? He looks as brainless as ever! XD
I have a feeling the best lighting in the world wouldn't be enough to fix that one :wink:
Thanks for the footage, I'm as exited for DDD's new content as I'm appalled by Terra's face.
Like seriously, what's going on at SE?
What's wrong with Terra's face?
some intresing news about a possible collection and no final fantasy worlds
http://www.gamespot.com/articles/kingdom-hearts-ps4-collection-not-ruled-out/1100-6440897/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
http://www.gamespot.com/articles/kingdom-hearts-3-wont-feature-final-fantasy-worlds/1100-6440895/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
So am I the only one that is, like, totally fine with Terra's model, face included? I'm just straight-up content with it. Is that weird?
So am I the only one that is, like, totally fine with Terra's model, face included? I'm just straight-up content with it. Is that weird?
Nah, it ain't weird. I'm fine with it too. Probably because I don't have many standards. Also the current image we have is compressed oddly.
So am I the only one that is, like, totally fine with Terra's model, face included? I'm just straight-up content with it. Is that weird?
I am in the same boat the HD-ifying of the game looks well done to me. And.... I just want the game. Like everyone else. Can't really complain
So am I the only one that is, like, totally fine with Terra's model, face included? I'm just straight-up content with it. Is that weird?
I don't think it looks bad, but considering what we've seen from even Back Cover, I still get the feeling that they aren't quote finished with the character models. We know for a fact that the game hasn't gone gold yet, so there's still work left to be done in some area of the game. I think it looks fine, but not great. It could definitely use some work, but I wouldn't throw a fit if it released like this. I'm more interested in the gameplay and the improvements that come with the current generation of hardware, and based on what Spock has said, I couldn't be happier with what they're doing on that front.
Also, DDD looks so good, I can't wait to get into that again. Shoutout to Spock for blowing my hype out of proportion with this collection.
I'll just copy and paste this from my thread:
To all who are currently attending (attended) E3 and got their hands on the DDD HD demo, I've got a few pretty straight-forward questions:
How are Reality Shifts triggered? A downward swipe on the touch-pad? Also, how exactly do they work? How do you, for example, connect the dots for Faithline? Do you just move the analog stick around for Slingshot? And lastly, what are the UI changes? Any photos, or videos of them in action?
Thanks. :)
I'll just copy and paste this from my thread:
Reality Shifts seem to be activated by pressing Circle and Triangle, and I don't think you have to connect any dots for faithline. And for the UI, they added a third slot to the Command Deck, along with two other sections dedicated to Dream Links and switching out Dream Eaters. Oh, and they made the HP bar thick.
Reality Shifts seem to be activated by pressing Circle and Triangle, and I don't think you have to connect any dots for faithline. And for the UI, they added a third slot to the Command Deck, along with two other sections dedicated to Dream Links and switching out Dream Eaters. Oh, and they made the HP bar thick.
That doesn't make sense. The NA version (which is the one present at E3) uses X instead of O, and it's really impractical to need to press both of those simultaneously. As for the UI, I was wondering about the Reality Shift UI.
So am I the only one that is, like, totally fine with Terra's model, face included? I'm just straight-up content with it. Is that weird?
I don't think he looks that bad at all. They have several more months of polishing to do anyways, so I doubt it will be a problem by the time the game comes out in December.
That doesn't make sense. The NA version (which is the one present at E3) uses X instead of O, and it's really impractical to need to press both of those simultaneously. As for the UI, I was wondering about the Reality Shift UI.
The info bar in DDD HD said "Press Circle + Triangle to activate Reality Shift", and the Reality Shift UI is just pretty much the icon/name for the Reality Shift.
That doesn't make sense. The NA version (which is the one present at E3) uses X instead of O, and it's really impractical to need to press both of those simultaneously. As for the UI, I was wondering about the Reality Shift UI.
And yet it's the NA version which had gameplay shown where X was to attack, and the info bar said Reality Shift is activated with O and Triangle
Oh, how was Aqua's voice? I couldn't hear it in the clips due to the huge mass of voices in the crowd
0.2 looks fantastic. Though Aqua still looks unfinished, she still looks really fantastic for the most part. Also, that Pixar animation reel up above is much appreciated as it gives some perspective to where Square must be in terms of progress. The characters in Ratatouille have that same problem in the next-to-last stage where they look good but still annoyingly unfinished, but that lighting makes them look perfect. If it's just the lighting that Square needs to pin down to make the characters look perfect, then I think we'll be good when the final products of 2.8 and 3 come out.
The combat looks fantastic. Those air combos immediately reminded me of KH2 and I am immensely pleased. The game looks absolutely great.
Terra looks atrocious, but given how briefly he appears and how this game still appears to be unfinished since this is a demo (FFXV's Episode Duscae didn't look particularly amazing to my eyes, but the Platinum Demo did, for example) I'm thinking that Terra's face is REALLY unfinished. At least I hope so. Not gonna be able to take a single scene he's in seriously with a derp face like that.
Does Aqua seem to be moving a tad bit fast to anyone? It seems odd to me honestly. It's almost like she's covering the distance of 2-3 steps with one, and it looks weird. Small thing, but I suppose it's noteworthy. Meh, honestly. Nbd
Does Aqua seem to be moving a tad bit fast to anyone? It seems odd to me honestly. It's almost like she's covering the distance of 2-3 steps with one, and it looks weird. Small thing, but I suppose it's noteworthy. Meh, honestly. Nbd
A lot of people have mentioned this. She seems to be moving a bit too fast. Hopefully they slow her down a bit in the final version of the game.
It looked like it was about DDD run speed to me which is faster than the other KH games but that's because the worlds were positively gigantic and exploring them with KH2 or god forbid KH1 run speed would be unbearable. I imagine the worlds in KH3 are even bigger given the tech, so they probably upped the run speed a bit more to account for it.
It looked like it was about DDD run speed to me which is faster than the other KH games but that's because the worlds were positively gigantic and exploring them with KH2 or god forbid KH1 run speed would be unbearable. I imagine the worlds in KH3 are even bigger given the tech, so they probably upped the run speed a bit more to account for it.
Yeah, if it were about KH1/KH2 running speed, it would take forever to get from point A to point B.
I'm liking the sound of the new camera in DDD, anything to help take advantage of the size and scope of the worlds. Strange that they had it set to inverted for the demo, though.
Catnuki's neat but kind of disappointing to see they're adding "new" Dream Eaters which might just be recolors of existing models. Also just adds more dang creatures to collect. Still, it'd be nice if this pointed towards other small additions like extra Keyblades or something.
0.2 looks like it plays about as nice as expected, although I think it's both hyperbolic and premature to call it "the ultimate form of Kingdom Hearts." I acknowledge that's valid as one's personal interpretation of the state of things, but as far as I can tell there are still elements of the game which look rough and unfinished and which need to be addressed. Like, if these character models are really what Square was aiming for, I'd honestly rather have a game which might impress less in terms of scale but was more consistent across the board on the PS3 (or, heck, even the PS2). I'm also not in love with the notion of Aqua/the game literally pointing out the scenery as if we're watching an episode of Dora the Explorer. "Can you find the underground passage? It's where? Over there? OK!" I don't mind characters having real time observations and interactions for the sake of advancing the immersive quality of a play through, but what exactly is the point of having the camera swerve to show you something which could have been discovered through exploration and attention to detail? Doesn't it render those kinds of details moot? Maybe I'm misunderstanding that element, I dunno.
It's great to hear that Command Styles are activated manually as opposed to passively, that fixes a significant frustration from BBS and, really, that's how they should have been to begin with. Love the idea of Attraction Flow playing along similar lines-- like a reaction command, but one which requires a more deliberate effort to activate. It's also nice to hear magic is back and hopefully useful again: I hope we're encouraged to use spells that aren't Reflect and Cure when KH3 rolls around.
some intresing news about a possible collection and no final fantasy worlds
http://www.gamespot.com/articles/kingdom-hearts-ps4-collection-not-ruled-out/1100-6440897/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
http://www.gamespot.com/articles/kingdom-hearts-3-wont-feature-final-fantasy-worlds/1100-6440895/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
Yeah, that pretty much confirms 1.5 + 2.5 announcement before December
Yeah, that pretty much confirms 1.5 + 2.5 announcement before December
Not really, they're just considering the possibilities. They're way to knee deep with 2.8 and III to completely prioritise that right now.
Not really, they're just considering the possibilities. They're way to knee deep with 2.8 and III to completely prioritise that right now.
Unlike 3 stealing the hype of 2.8, PS4 ports of previous collections wouldn't draw much away from 2.8 and might in fact drive up sales since people will know that the whole series is coming to PS4. An announcement at TGS isn't entirely out of the question, although I feel they might wait until Jump Festa to announce it, just to avoid stepping on 2.8's toes in any way. They could discuss all the KH3 news and then be like "Also, 1.5/2.5 are coming to PS4 next year."
Not really, they're just considering the possibilities. They're way to knee deep with 2.8 and III to completely prioritise that right now.
Like they were considering the possibilities of the collections in the first place? And then 3D HD? Or this
Kingdom Hearts HD 2.5 Remix "Could Happen" if the HD 1.5 Remix is Popular - PlayStation LifeStyle
When Hashimoto was telling us that the 2.5 collection "could happen" less than a month before announcing it?
Yeah, it's happening.
tbh I always automatically translate "we are thinking about it/considering it/maybe" and stuff like that as "yes".
If it's not a flat out no, then it is a yes.
If it's not a flat out no, then it is a yes.
he didn't say no or yes so maybe or we consdering i think yes weel see it possible next year
If it's not a flat out no, then it is a yes.
What does this mean for the bingo, though?
Also, did Tai Yasue smile at all?
What does this mean for the bingo, though?
Also, did Tai Yasue smile at all?
He smiled many times in the PS LiveCast.
What does this mean for the bingo, though?
Also, did Tai Yasue smile at all?
It wasn't formally announced so I'm not counting it on our official one, but feel free to mark your own lol.
I need to go through bingo tomorrow when there's hopefully less news.
He smiled many times in the PS LiveCast.
Gooood, gooood... Now we just need Hashimoto to laugh...
[spoiler="..."]
[/spoiler]I need to go through bingo tomorrow when there's hopefully less news.
Don't hope for less news!
Don't hope for less news!
But it's just been me trying to keep up with all of it and I'm very tired :(
| It felt buttery smooth and punchy. Every hit feels like it has weight behind it. As for Ashton's question on kickback, enemies get knocked back but can break out of them. Feels like KH2... |
YUUUUUUSSSSSS! Yus! This is fantastic. Man I am so tempted to watch some of those videos that were from the demos at E3, but I think I`ll pass. I wanna go trough the demo with at least some things not spoiled before hand. Oh boy oh boy I am so excited!
The stuff about DDD sounds also really good.
| When I found Catnuki, a Square Enix rep told us that there were more new Dream Eaters to discover in the full edition of Dream Drop Distance HD. Although this remaster is not a Final Mix version of the game, it is exciting to know that the developers found time while completely rebuilding Dream Drop Distance for the PlayStation 4 to make additions. |
They better have a donkey DE in the Pinocchio world this time. Such an obvious oversight.
Not sure if I mentioned that magic affects enemies. Freeze with blizzard, burn with fire, stun with thunder...
Is this a "maybe" occurrence? Or does it occur every time you cast?
Overall, I'm really loving everything we've been shown and Willa Holland returning to voice Aqua, oh yes I am very much pleased like honestly she suits Aqua very well.
~Moreover, I really love e hybrid gameplay system, for example how Aqua still retains her abilities (double-flight, cartwheel, barrier, air glide, an improved version of her BbS finisher implemented in her amazing combos, shotlocks, command styles (\^0^/), etc...), it's her style of fighting which makes her a force to be reckoned with I mean c'mon, that magic though.
One thing I'm looking forward to is if we have more command styles other then Spell Weaver, like Firestorm, Diamond Dust, Thunder Bolt, Blade Charge, Sky Climber, Rhythm Mixer, or even Frozen Fortune (lol). But if we won't get all those, one other command style exclusive to Aqua, which in my opinion is her best or just really strong in general, that I would want is Ghost Drive. Put that one in as well and we're set :) . Just imagine how it'll look.
And anyone feel that D-links could return, I mean most likely not but still. Sure it wasn't really game changing, other than another way to heal when Curaga wasn't ready, but it was a nice little touch to the game.
And oh boy, the last few scenes with Aqua at the end of the demo, all the feels ;-;. The Realm of Darkness is really affecting her.
"Finally," Audo says, cracking his knuckles. He opens the folder full of article bookmarks in alphabetical order, accesses the folder marked Gamer culture and opens the one that reads "~~Framerate~~".
Launchpad is gonna get it now.
jk. i just think people need to chill over a disney videogame.
june 13-15 2017 is next e3 this is pacular be june 14 is the last of la concert so i wonder if nomura plane it so hardcore fan see the concet while regualr fan see e3 becuase something is going to happen on that day
Hey guys, look!
They brought back the floating heart from KH1!
Oh, and the game over screen gives you tips now.
Hey guys, look!
They brought back the floating heart from KH1!
Oh, and the game over screen gives you tips now.
Ooh hey, I never thought I'd see that again! And it's now in that glowing spherical form that the series has used so much too.
I feel like the game over screen has given hints before... I think it might've been Re:Coded, if you died enough? Maybe I'm misremembering, who knows.
Ooh hey, I never thought I'd see that again! And it's now in that glowing spherical form that the series has used so much too.
I feel like the game over screen has given hints before... I think it might've been Re:Coded, if you died enough? Maybe I'm misremembering, who knows.
Actually I don't think it's in the spherical form. It looks like it's in the middle of turning :3
And I've never seen a KH game over screen give tips before. It's a nice touch!
Not sure if it's been posted or anything, but I came across a demo with the sound and everything on it~
[video=youtube;gkSnJlXeDKg]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gkSnJlXeDKg[/video]
Not sure if it's been posted or anything, but I came across a demo with the sound and everything on it~
[video=youtube;gkSnJlXeDKg]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gkSnJlXeDKg[/video]
That's a funny sound effect for starting the game at 0:05 lol I think I heard a newly recorded quote when Aqua took damage, too, which I wasn't expecting.
How can she not realize that they transformed into Heartless? Even without realizing what the Heartless really are, you'd think she'd put two and two together at some point. At least, I think they turn into Heartless, don't they? I know the people of each world return once they're restored at the end of KH1 but they still lost their hearts so they should have been turned into them. Either way, it's kind of sad that even what Aqua takes comfort in 'knowing' is a lie, as well.
Hey guys, look!
They brought back the floating heart from KH1!
Oh, and the game over screen gives you tips now.
No way! And it looks just like the heart-shaped heart from KH1 too!
Not sure if it's been posted or anything, but I came across a demo with the sound and everything on it~
[video=youtube;gkSnJlXeDKg]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gkSnJlXeDKg[/video]
Spockanort's report follows this well :P The demo looks lots of fun. Terra's face...is amusing.
Gahh, that familiar game over screen! All the.... nostalgia.... rushing in... can`t stop it. I love what they are doing here, giving these little nods to the fans of the series that have been with the games for years now.
Amazing! Hype
[video=youtube;xKA2xxe8RiU]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xKA2xxe8RiU[/video]
Basically he said that the demo had frame-rate problems, which isn't crazy since it's either an old build or not the final version, but I didn't see other people discussing this, so..
Amazing! Hype
One thing I'll give the new games is how great the particle effects look. Magic looks incredible. The skyboxes also look amazing this time around.
[video=youtube;xKA2xxe8RiU]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xKA2xxe8RiU[/video]
Basically he said that the demo had frame-rate problems, which isn't crazy since it's either an old build or not the final version, but I didn't see other people discussing this, so..
Saw that video pass by as well yesterday. Probably (and hopefully) just more signs that this is a dated build of the game.
How can she not realize that they transformed into Heartless? Even without realizing what the Heartless really are, you'd think she'd put two and two together at some point. At least, I think they turn into Heartless, don't they? I know the people of each world return once they're restored at the end of KH1 but they still lost their hearts so they should have been turned into them. Either way, it's kind of sad that even what Aqua takes comfort in 'knowing' is a lie, as well.
But she doesn't even know they're called heartless, she has no idea what they are except dwellers of the darkness. Remember, heartless weren't around during BbS, only the Unversed which disappeared as suddenly as they appeared (because Vanitas).
And, we can't be 100% sure that those heartless are the inhabitants of the town, but I think it's highly possible that they are.
But she doesn't even know they're called heartless, she has no idea what they are except dwellers of the darkness.
This.
Thus she could assume the heartless have somehow "consumed" the people of the world if they weren't able to flee, which would still be less cruel than her actually killing the remnants of the people.
This.
Thus she could assume the heartless have somehow "consumed" the people of the world if they weren't able to flee, which would still be less cruel than her actually killing the remnants of the people.
But actually what Aqua is doing is a good thing, she is setting their hearts free with her keyblade meaning they can be revived.
But actually what Aqua is doing is a good thing, she is setting their hearts free with her keyblade meaning they can be revived.
Not really. Emblem Heartless release Hearts, Purebloods don't.
Not really. Emblem Heartless release Hearts, Purebloods don't.
Still, destroying a Pureblood allows whoever turned into that Heartless to re-form again.
Still, destroying a Pureblood allows whoever turned into that Heartless to re-form again.
They're being destroyed in the Realm of Darkness, though. I'm pretty skeptical towards the effectiveness there.
They're being destroyed in the Realm of Darkness, though. I'm pretty skeptical towards the effectiveness there.
Destroying a Heartless in any realm causes the heart that created it (plus the hearts it might've been carrying) to go to the RoD until they reform as people, unless you've got an Org XIII Kingdom Hearts going on.
Tbf they never actually say the heart goes to the realm of darkness, more it goes to a vague limbo on which the only description was "a state of suspension" which is probably more like what happened with Ventus. He lost his heart and then it just wasn't...anywhere it was in some kind of black metaphorical (and yet also literal) heart void. Yensid describe it as a void between light and dark, waiting for something to lead him out.
Though I mean the point still stands there is no rule that states the revival rule differs based on realm.
Tbf they never actually say the heart goes to the realm of darkness, more it goes to a vague limbo on which the only description was "a state of suspension" which is probably more like what happened with Ventus. He lost his heart and then it just wasn't...anywhere it was in some kind of black metaphorical (and yet also literal) heart void. Yensid describe it as a void between light and dark, waiting for something to lead him out.
Though I mean the point still stands there is no rule that states the revival rule differs based on realm.
But Ventus didn't simply lose his heart to the darkness.
He actively smashed it into pieces by destroying the X-Blade.
Audo
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