You know what'd be sick? A Kingdom Hearts remake

[AegisXIII]

I would be onboard for a remake of the xehanort saga as a trilogy that removes all the unnecessary repetition of concepts/worlds.
Chain of memories should be a post-game content of kh1 with no disney world revisit and just the main plot.
Days could be seen as flashbacks alongside the adventure of kh2, like they did with tidus father adventures in ffx. re:coded would just be a post-game content of kh2 that starts at castle oblivion.

All of this would allow newcomers to catch up with the story without feeling lost and confused having to play all 300 hours of retelling and copy paste content.

 

[Elysium]

Amazing how many remakes utterly fail to surpass the originals, yet people keep asking for more.

A lot of times, it's not really about surpassing the original. Something like FFVII, for example, I imagine half the appeal is getting to hear all the dialogue voiced and see the action play out with realistic models / graphics. At least for me, a re-make is a separate, additional experience. It doesn't mean you throw the original in the trash.

 

[Barrett]

Honestly, I'd be really interested to see how a remake of KH1 would turn out, whether it'd be like Ocarina of Time 3D where it uses new assets from the ground up but still very faithful to the original or a full-on reimagining like how FF7R turned out, which I'd be fine with either of those scenarios. The story of KH1 is such a classic, it's no wonder the series was given two opportunities to revisit that story and its settings with CoM and coded with their own twists. I'd even argue that the beginning of DDD was another stealth reimagining of at least the beginning of KH1, which brings me to my next point.

I've been playing around with this idea for years now even before KH3 came out, and I still think it could work now that we're in the 2nd Phase. Personally, something that I'd wanna see in a full-on "hard reboot" of KH1 is for the game to begin mostly similar to how it was in KH1, including Dive to the Heart, Destiny Islands, Disney Castle, and Traverse Town, with some small yet noticeable changes being thrown at the player already. Basically like the beginning of DDD, but on a larger scale. The following is a list of changes that could happen during this segment.

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• Who appears on the stained glass pillars in Dive to the Heart? Are they the Princesses of Heart again or do they show the New Seven Hearts instead? Or do they depict something entirely new?
• Will the FF characters in Destiny Islands and Traverse Town remain the same or will they be replaced with other Square characters or even new original characters instead?
• Who does Sora meet in the small cave at Destiny Islands? Is it Ansem SoD again? Or maybe it's the Master of Masters?
• Whoever Sora meets at Traverse Town, how will they explain why the Keyblade is connected to him?
• Why did King Mickey leave Disney Castle? Will Donald and Goofy find Mickey sooner than they think?
• How do Sora, Riku, and Kairi end up leaving Destiny Islands this time? Are they gonna end up staying separated the majority of the game just like last time?

Then after Sora leaves Traverse Town, the journey going forward ends up being nowhere near like how it was in KH1, complete with all new Disney worlds and a new threat unrelated to anything contained within the Dark Seeker saga of KH. And throughout the game, there are hints littered throughout the game that tells the player that this might not even be an alternate universe or different worldline that the player is experiencing and may actually well be a stealth sequel taking place within the main timeline. One subtle example could be how even though Sora, Riku, and Kairi are depicted in their KH1 ages again, all three of their hairstyles are how they were in KH3 and that they wear all-new outfits like every other numbered title and DDD. It only takes up until the game's secret ending that it all-but confirms this really is a stealth sequel after all and leaving a huge enough hint to give players ideas on how this "reboot" connects to the timeline.

 

[Deliverance]

A lot of times, it's not really about surpassing the original. Something like FFVII, for example, I imagine half the appeal is getting to hear all the dialogue voiced and see the action play out with realistic models / graphics. At least for me, a re-make is a separate, additional experience. It doesn't mean you throw the original in the trash.

The intentions behind them don’t really matter considering most remakes end up being worse games overall. 7R in particular might be the most exploitative remake ever made. Splitting the game into parts? Turning it into an action game? How does any of that pay respect to the original?

I’ve always liked the concept of remakes. The idea of going back to our favorite games and fixing all the problems that held them back. But it almost never works out, because everyone has a different idea of what should and shouldn’t be preserved.

 

[Alpha Baymax]

Seeing Riku in a Green Shirt, gloves and tan pants reminds me of Goofy's duds. Kind of distracting

That's the point of the outfit recolouring, Sora has Mickey's colour scheme, Kairi has Donald's colour scheme and Riku has Goofy's colour scheme.

Amazing how many remakes utterly fail to surpass the originals, yet people keep asking for more.

Xenoblade Chronicles Definitive Edition says hi.

 

[Elysium]

The intentions behind them don’t really matter considering most remakes end up being worse games overall. 7R in particular might be the most exploitative remake ever made. Splitting the game into parts? Turning it into an action game? How does any of that pay respect to the original?

What I meant is that topping the original is not the goal or shouldn't be? It's usually just having a new experience that plays off of the original product. A KH1 re-make would of course be inferior to the real KH1, but I would still like to experience a version of those same worlds and its storyline with the new scope of technology. I don't think of remakes as something that's supposed to surpass or replace the original because that's usually impossible. They're just something fun to interact with if you're a fan of the original product because it plays on your nostalgia.

That said, the problem with a KH1 re-make is, as pointed out here, that Nomura would try to tie into the story via worldlines and I don't really want that...

 

[Face My Fears]

The only things I really want from a KH1 remake are those specific DISNEY worlds reimagined KH3 style and those DISNEY boss fights KH3 ReMIND style.

With that said, if they bring back those worlds (specifically Agrabah, Atlantica, Halloween Town, and NeverLand) in future KH games and give us the DISNEY boss fights from those worlds, then I really don't need a KH1 remake.

If they ever do remake KH1, I beg them to please let Jafar's sorcerer boss fight include him transforming into the snake AND the genie fight be an actual fight with Jafar and not animal abuse. Kthnx.

 

[BufferAqua]

The intentions behind them don’t really matter considering most remakes end up being worse games overall. 7R in particular might be the most exploitative remake ever made. Splitting the game into parts? Turning it into an action game? How does any of that pay respect to the original?

I think the term "remake" when it comes to gaming doesn't necessarily have a strict pattern for us to really know what properly pays respects and what doesn't. For some people, like yourself, 7R did not respect the original by removing the turn-based combat and changing some aspects of the story. But for a lot of my peers, 7R was a fantastic remake by giving enough familiarity to where it becomes faithful, but also keeps interest by incorporating some differences.
A respectful remake seems to be different to various people. I've seen folks just wanting the original with a fresh coat of paint, I've seen people desiring only minor differences, and so on.

 

[Elysium]

With that said, if they bring back those worlds (specifically Agrabah, Atlantica, Halloween Town, and NeverLand) in future KH games and give us the DISNEY boss fights from those worlds, then I really don't need a KH1 remake.

This. And I think that's still possible. I think all of them will be in KH again at some point, just spaced out.

Although I don't care as much about seeing NeverLand as the other three. I suppose it's because it did get a decent world in BbS. Same with Pinocchio getting a pretty good world in 3D. I'm open to seeing any film hundreds of times again though, just saying the other three are my personal priority.

 

[Face My Fears]

This. And I think that's still possible. I think all of them will be in KH again at some point, just spaced out.

Although I don't care as much about seeing NeverLand as the other three. I suppose it's because it did get a decent world in BbS. Same with Pinocchio getting a pretty good world in 3D. I'm open to seeing any film hundreds of times again though, just saying the other three are my personal priority.

It would be really dumb and odd for Nomura to never touch those worlds again. Let alone worlds like Land of Dragons or Pride Lands. People won't accept DISNEY villains coming back again, but can accept that Ansem was actually Xehanort's heartless, and Xehanort is actually Terra possessed by Master Xehanort, and that the original plan of Organization XIII was to get 13 nobodies to hook up to Kingdom Hearts and use the 7 Princesses of Heart to summon the X-Blade that we found out existed 3-4 games after KH1, which was all the plan dictated by a time travelling Xehanort and ultimately have several versions of Xehanort recurring throughout the series.

The DISNEY worlds are already treated by fans as "filler", so why the hell do they care if someone that was "dead" comes back? If Xehanort gets to harass us with multiple incarnations, I have absolutely no problem with Jafar, Ursula, Oogie, Hook, Scar etc. coming back with little to no explanation. I seriously don't know why people are so picky about old DISNEY worlds coming back, especially some of the best DISNEY films/characters.

 

[the red monster]

If it's the only way i'm getting my UE4/5 halloween town then so be it.
replace tarzan with lion king and it's perfect.

 

[Face My Fears]

If it's the only way i'm getting my UE4/5 halloween town then so be it.
replace tarzan with lion king and it's perfect.

As much as Deep Jungle is my least favourite world in KH1, it won't feel like KH1 without it. I think it's an important world for the group's dynamic as Sora/Donald are fighting and getting to know each other.

Also, The Pride Lands are already destroyed by the heartless at this point... unless they retcon it. I guess Simba won't be a summon? Maybe they can swap it and make Tarzan a summon?

 

[the red monster]

As much as Deep Jungle is my least favourite world in KH1, it won't feel like KH1 without it. I think it's an important world for the group's dynamic as Sora/Donald are fighting and getting to know each other.

Also, The Pride Lands are already destroyed by the heartless at this point... unless they retcon it. I guess Simba won't be a summon? Maybe they can swap it and make Tarzan a summon?

They're not allowed to use tarzan as far as i know, so i don't think they can use him as summon (?)

pride lands was just me being wishful lol. if anything they will probably use the jungle book since it's the second closest thing.

 

[Keyblade Knight 1st Class]

They're not allowed to use tarzan as far as i know, so i don't think they can use him as summon (?)

If I recall correctly, Disney only had a 5 year deal for Tarzan and it's inclusion in the original Kingdom Hearts was their way of getting as much use out of it as possible before the deal expired.

 

[MATGSY]

A KH1 remake on the caliber of KH3/FF7R is one of those things that sounds good on paper but probably wouldn't work out as you envision it. KH1 had a unique atmosphere & tone to it that is just utterly gone in every other game of the series. I don't trust the creative heads of this franchise to suddenly find that tone again.

& the gameplay is a part of it. Disney bosses are a lot more imposing when you can only do a 3-hit combo & dinky fireballs. Stick KH3 Sora into this & the bosses either become pushovers or get ramped up to ludicrous degrees.

 

[Katsagu]

Really mellow on that idea, I still think the game stands up quite well and there are other games in the KH series that would need a remake way more, looking at UX especially.

 

[AegisXIII]

Really mellow on that idea, I still think the game stands up quite well and there are other games in the KH series that would need a remake way more, looking at UX especially.

Some mechanics feel outdated but could easily be fixed if they hadn't lost the godamn source code of the first game. XD

 

[Deliverance]

Xenoblade Chronicles Definitive Edition says hi.

So does it’s generic new art style.

What I meant is that topping the original is not the goal or shouldn't be? It's usually just having a new experience that plays off of the original product. A KH1 re-make would of course be inferior to the real KH1, but I would still like to experience a version of those same worlds and its storyline with the new scope of technology. I don't think of remakes as something that's supposed to surpass or replace the original because that's usually impossible. They're just something fun to interact with if you're a fan of the original product because it plays on your nostalgia.

That said, the problem with a KH1 re-make is, as pointed out here, that Nomura would try to tie into the story via worldlines and I don't really want that...

I’m sorry but I genuinely don’t understand why you’d wanna play an inferior version of a game you like. That sounds like a giant waste of time, not just for the player but for the developers as well. I’d rather they spend their time making a game people will actually connect with on its own terms.

And how can you say surpassing the original isn’t the goal when the majority are recreations that specifically address problems in those original games? What other goal would that serve? Most remakes fail because they try to outthink the original and make changes that undermine its vision.

I think the term "remake" when it comes to gaming doesn't necessarily have a strict pattern for us to really know what properly pays respects and what doesn't. For some people, like yourself, 7R did not respect the original by removing the turn-based combat and changing some aspects of the story. But for a lot of my peers, 7R was a fantastic remake by giving enough familiarity to where it becomes faithful, but also keeps interest by incorporating some differences.
A respectful remake seems to be different to various people. I've seen folks just wanting the original with a fresh coat of paint, I've seen people desiring only minor differences, and so on.

If you and your peers think cutting up a complete experience in a blatant attempt to get more money out of fans somehow pays respect to the original, then I don’t know what to tell ya.

 

[Alpha Baymax]

So does it’s generic new art style.

I’m sorry but I genuinely don’t understand why you’d wanna play an inferior version of a game you like. That sounds like a giant waste of time, not just for the player but for the developers as well. I’d rather they spend their time making a game people will actually connect with on its own terms.

And how can you say surpassing the original isn’t the goal when the majority are recreations that specifically address problems in those original games? What other goal would that serve? Most remakes fail because they try to outthink the original and make changes that undermine its vision.

If you and your peers think cutting up a complete experience in a blatant attempt to get more money out of fans somehow pays respect to the original, then I don’t know what to tell ya.

Yeah, it's totally a generic art style. It's one thing to have a preference for an artistic style but you're factually incorrect in saying that the character models for the original game are better than the Definitive Edition, the latter emote properly and have fingers.

Remakes are designed to be a different experience. Whether they're better than the original all comes down to personal preference. A remaster/enhanced remaster is designed for compatibility with modern hardware. The original version of the game isn't suddenly gone just because the remake exists, you can still play Final Fantasy VII if you're that much of a purist of the "original vision".

 

[WastedPenguin]

I agree that they should do KH1-2 remakes once phase 2 finishes or the series reached a conclusion.

Other than that, my only concern about KH1 and 2 remakes would be the way they handle the gameplay and balancing, which is already very good and it's the thing that got me hooked on this series way back then.

When they do it, I would definitely love to see the classics in UE4/5 with a revamped UI and stuff. Just don't change the gameplay mechanics too much. Maybe add a few new abilities that won't deviate too much from the original and won't break the game, add some new story content and new bosses and maybe even new keyblades.