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Going off of the secret endings of Birth By Sleep and Recoded, I may have come up with a theory on who Xehanorts secret allies are.

Ok, before I continue, I'll have to ask that everyone keep the term "Paopu Fruit" in their heads. I'll come back to it.

Secret of the Yellow Eyes:
Ok, so we've all been wondering for the longest what these secret eyes could mean right? At first we came to the conclusion that they were the eyes of darkness. Overwhelming darkness to be exact. That those with overwhelming darkness obtain those eyes. Now let's go to SaiX's case here. Determine the following, why is it that Xemnas has orange eyes but SaiX has the demon darkness yellow eyes? If we remember, at the beginning of Xehanorts capture of Terra's body, he retained the yellow eyes, but as time went by they gradually took on the orange form. I would assume that is due to the influence of Terra's and Eraqus' heart. Now when it came to his darkness however(AnsemSoD) he retrieved the yellow eyes where Xemnas the body held on to the orange eyes. Now, both parts being essences of the original Xehanort, why is it their eyes ended up different? Due to coexistence? Possibly. Due to darkness? Less possibly but in a sense Yes. Now when I say less possibly, I say that speaking of natural darkness. Him being a heartless and everything and of the pure darkness nature, some would think thats why he has the yellow eyes. But lets not forget the ol' separation obligation shall we? The graph of Master Xehanort(Original)>Ansem; Terra(Possibly Eraqus)>Xemnas.
And if that can be rejected, think in Isa's situation then. Him also having the yellow eyes, but as a nobody as well? How can that be if its due to darkness seeing as how Nobodies have neither Light nor Darkness. We all know who originally had the eyes, and one way or another, anyone else with them have some link to this original holder. So now the question is, if they didn't obtain these eyes through darkness, how did they get them? Moving along.

The Planted Seeds:
In the secret ending of Birth by Sleep, MX spoke of his planting these secret seeds correct? I have a feeling I know what these secret seeds are. Lets concur that we all know how incredibly inteligent MX is ok? The guy played everyone all the way to the end of Birth by Sleep. So let's say, in a sense, he knew everything that was going to happen up to now in the KH Timeline. I'll come back to that in a second. I'll tell you this much, when he spoke of "Your only one of many roads I may choose to take." I would kind of figure the whole capturing Terra's body thing isn't what he meant. This may be obvious but I believe he was talking about his heart. This I can't really explain, but possibly, MX has some way of combining his heart with others to strengthen his own. I'm not sure about it or why he seeks it, but that's what I get out of it. Now the moment of truth. The Planted Seeds MX speaks of are... Isa and Braig!!!(Applause)
The only other two with the strikingly yellow MX eyes. We all bared witness that those weren't their original eye colors. So let me ask you this.
Don't you find it weird how one way or another, the paopu fruit keeps getting brought up so much? For something that held a big tale but such little significance to the story at first, why was it talked about so much? Another question is, why was MX's home chosen to be Destiny Islands? I can't answer the second question, but I can answer the first. Because our main antagonist gave way to using this magnificent fruit. First keep in mind that the destinies become intertwine. I figure, the use of this fruit makes two or more be a part of each others lives NO MATTER WHAT. Meaning through life AND death. My guess is, he shared one with Braig first of course then Isa later on. He was closest to those two after all. I'll let you put 2 and 2 together on their placements of receiving the fruit.(Braig being before the Keyblade Graveyard of course.) My guess is with the Paopu fruit, that it joins together the bodies and not the hearts as predetermined. So of course first to go down was AnsemSoD (presumed Xehanorts heart.) Then of course Xigbar and SaiX went down and Xemnas followed. The three bodies. Now since Xehanorts body is returning, Isa's body and Braig's body is as well. As for the heart, I wouldn't be so sure. It is possible that their hearts are retuning as well, but I couldn't say about that one. After all, somebody will have to control the Nobody's right? Xehanort would be able to resume his role over the Heartless. And as far as we know, Vanitas could be returning as well seeing as how he received the same treatment of eating the fruit. So what does that mean? The return of the Heartless, Nobodies, and Unversed. Isn't that cool? KH1=Heartless;1 KH2=Heartless&Nobodies;2 KH3=Heartless&Nobodies&Unversed;3.

That proves how smart MX is. He had all of this planned out from the beginning. The planted seeds and his return. Highly intelligent.

But those are my thoughts on the whole Secret Allies thing. Some feedback and critique would be nice.
 

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Secret of the Yellow Eyes:
Ok, so we've all been wondering for the longest what these secret eyes could mean right? At first we came to the conclusion that they were the eyes of darkness. Overwhelming darkness to be exact. That those with overwhelming darkness obtain those eyes. Now let's go to SaiX's case here. Determine the following, why is it that Xemnas has orange eyes but SaiX has the demon darkness yellow eyes? If we remember, at the beginning of Xehanorts capture of Terra's body, he retained the yellow eyes, but as time went by they gradually took on the orange form. I would assume that is due to the influence of Terra's and Eraqus' heart. Now when it came to his darkness however(AnsemSoD) he retrieved the yellow eyes where Xemnas the body held on to the orange eyes. Now, both parts being essences of the original Xehanort, why is it their eyes ended up different? Due to coexistence? Possibly. Due to darkness? Less possibly but in a sense Yes. Now when I say less possibly, I say that speaking of natural darkness. Him being a heartless and everything and of the pure darkness nature, some would think thats why he has the yellow eyes.
Both Xemnas and XH (Xehanort's Heartless) had yellow eyes. Xehanort the Apprentice had brown eyes.

The Planted Seeds MX speaks of are... Isa and Braig!!!(Applause)
Agreed. :p

Don't you find it weird how one way or another, the paopu fruit keeps getting brought up so much? For something that held a big tale but such little significance to the story at first, why was it talked about so much? Another question is, why was MX's home chosen to be Destiny Islands? I can't answer the second question, but I can answer the first. Because our main antagonist gave way to using this magnificent fruit. First keep in mind that the destinies become intertwine. I figure, the use of this fruit makes two or more be a part of each others lives NO MATTER WHAT. Meaning through life AND death. My guess is, he shared one with Braig first of course then Isa later on. He was closest to those two after all. I'll let you put 2 and 2 together on their placements of receiving the fruit.(Braig being before the Keyblade Graveyard of course.)

Having the paopu fruit have mysical powers would be pretty random...I'm more inclined to think that he connected to Braig's/Isa's hearts in the same/similar way that Ven did to Sora.
 

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I subscribe to theory that MX has the same power as Sora, the abiltity to "connect" their hearts to others. MX discovered how to harness it and then used it to ensure his survival, the "other routes" of Braig and Isa. Sora's use of it is more accidental and for better purposes obviously! I think KH3 will revolve around this idea, but we won't figure it out until MX and Sora finally meet and MX makes some comment about it.

...Or what the OP said, 'cause right now we have no idea what's right! I really do like the idea of the star fruit becoming important. I'm sure there's a name for it, but I always like it when the insignificant thing becomes the most important, sort of Sherlockian.
 

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Both Xemnas and XH (Xehanort's Heartless) had yellow eyes. Xehanort the Apprentice had brown eyes.

i'm pretty sure Xemnas and Ansem SoD eyes are actually amber, where as Terranort, Braig, and Saix are yellow, and Appretice Xehanort had brown.

Having the paopu fruit have mysical powers would be pretty random...I'm more inclined to think that he connected to Braig's/Isa's hearts in the same/similar way that Ven did to Sora.

Yeah I was thinking that too. He may have connected his heart to these two somehow down the line or maybe it acts as some sort of virus effect, Braig was effected directly and somehow through Braig the MX factor connected to Isa :/ Idk
 

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Ansem the Wise has amber eyes naturally (seen in BBS), but MX knowing about the possibility of heart-connections and he using them would not be that farfetched, as Eraqus said a keyblade master has access to certain hidden knowledge and I can clearly assume that not all of this extra knowledge has been revealed yet.
Neither by Yen Sid, Eraqus or Xehanort.
 

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Ansem the Wise has amber eyes naturally (seen in BBS), but MX knowing about the possibility of heart-connections and he using them would not be that farfetched, as Eraqus said a keyblade master has access to certain hidden knowledge and I can clearly assume that not all of this extra knowledge has been revealed yet.
Neither by Yen Sid, Eraqus or Xehanort.
A tad of that knowledge is the fact that LoD can be transformed into CO with Eraqus keyblade right. At least he told Aqua that. And I like the Braig/Isa coming back idea. Not far-fetched at all.
 

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A tad of that knowledge is the fact that LoD can be transformed into CO with Eraqus keyblade right. At least he told Aqua that. And I like the Braig/Isa coming back idea. Not far-fetched at all.

Yeah, but that little Info doesn't have to be all the exclusive knowledge a master gets.
Xehanort already mentioned the power to extract hearts (and did it with his heart invading Terra) and he actually showed the power of "cracking" a heart into pieces on a living sample in all its cruel glory.
So its not far-fetched at all to assume that hearts connecting with each other also is part of that knowledge.

BtW, was it already confirmed somewhere that yellow/golden eyes= succumbed to darkness or was this just an allusion?
What if Xehanort's natural eye color is really yellow/golden and Braig, Isa and even Vanitas having those eyes just symbolizes their strong connection to Xehanort?
 

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BtW, was it already confirmed somewhere that yellow/golden eyes= succumbed to darkness or was this just an allusion?
What if Xehanort's natural eye color is really yellow/golden and Braig, Isa and even Vanitas having those eyes just symbolizes their strong connection to Xehanort?

Yellow eyes were assumed to be those who succumbed to darkness thanks to Vanitas. But it was disproven thanks to Riku and Terra. So now we figure that its MX's natural color and that anyone else that gets the eye color must have some connection with MX.
 

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Yeah, also, Vanitas didn't succumb to darkness...he is darkness.
Yellow eyes = dark side => Emperor Palpatine and Star Wars, but not necessarily means in KH too.

If we assume completely identical eye color is a indicator of a strong heart connection would this apply to everyone or just Xehanort?
I.e. Ven and Sora have also nearly identical blue eyes, while Kairi's are in a somewhat darker shade of blue.
So if one would form a close heart connection with Riku he would get the same turquoise eyes as Riku?
 

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Keep in mind though that their eye colors are their original eye colors. Braig and Isa's eye colors weren't originally yellow. Explain why Isa AKA Saix has yellow eyes? Once you become a Nobody, you cease to have light or darkness. So how does his eyes remain yellow? Hell Xemnas' eyes didnt even stay yellow at the point of Nobody.
 

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It's possible there are different kinds of close heart-connections...the one between Sora and Ven clearly is a willing one from both sides, yet that doesn't mean it is always the case.

Let's take a short side step what we've seen so far with hearts:
1. a heart settle into another.
2. a heart can connect with another.
3. a heart can be cracked into pieces.

Assuming there are at least two ways to do each, a benevolent and a malevolent way, which have we seen so far?

Case 1:
The benevolent way: End of BBS when Ventus politely asked Sora to allow him in and he accepted.
The malevolent way: MX invading Terra's heart, XH invading Riku's and Vanitas invading Ven's.

Case 2:
The benevolent way: Prologue of BBS when Sora's newborn heart connected with Ven's in mutual agreement.
The malevolent way: Not shown yet (correct me if I'm wrong)

Case 3:
The benevolent way: To split a part off a heart peacefully without harm seems to be somewhat odd, yet we can't rule out it'll be possible.
The malevolent way: Xehanort cracking Ven's heart through an attack.

So, maybe these Connection with MX's heart weren't fully mutual between MX and Isa/Braig/Vanitas, or the connection is something other and not through their hearts.
This would also be reinforced by the fact that Xigbar and Saix retain the yellow eyes despite having no heart anymore.

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Xehanort....planted his seed in Isa? So, he is a pedo. =/

I heavily loled at this...but the hints are spread wide over the entire series.
- Riku's and Vanitas's full tight-fitting body-suits*cough*
- Ven suddenly shirtless when MX drags him to DI *cough*
-"SUBMIT!" lol
 

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I heavily loled at this...but the hints are spread wide over the entire series.
- Riku's and Vanitas's full tight-fitting body-suits*cough*
- Ven suddenly shirtless when MX drags him to DI *cough*
-"SUBMIT!" lol

Forgot the wiggly pedo fingers...
 

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I heavily loled at this...but the hints are spread wide over the entire series.
- Riku's and Vanitas's full tight-fitting body-suits*cough*
- Ven suddenly shirtless when MX drags him to DI *cough*
-"SUBMIT!" lol

Forgot the wiggly pedo fingers...
 

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It's possible there are different kinds of close heart-connections...the one between Sora and Ven clearly is a willing one from both sides, yet that doesn't mean it is always the case.

Let's take a short side step what we've seen so far with hearts:
1. a heart settle into another.
2. a heart can connect with another.
3. a heart can be cracked into pieces.

Assuming there are at least two ways to do each, a benevolent and a malevolent way, which have we seen so far?

Case 1:
The benevolent way: End of BBS when Ventus politely asked Sora to allow him in and he accepted.
The malevolent way: MX invading Terra's heart, XH invading Riku's and Vanitas invading Ven's.

Case 2:
The benevolent way: Prologue of BBS when Sora's newborn heart connected with Ven's in mutual agreement.
The malevolent way: Not shown yet (correct me if I'm wrong)

Case 3:
The benevolent way: To split a part off a heart peacefully without harm seems to be somewhat odd, yet we can't rule out it'll be possible.
The malevolent way: Xehanort cracking Ven's heart through an attack.

So, maybe these Connection with MX's heart weren't fully mutual between MX and Isa/Braig/Vanitas, or the connection is something other and not through their hearts.
This would also be reinforced by the fact that Xigbar and Saix retain the yellow eyes despite having no heart anymore.

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I heavily loled at this...but the hints are spread wide over the entire series.
- Riku's and Vanitas's full tight-fitting body-suits*cough*
- Ven suddenly shirtless when MX drags him to DI *cough*
-"SUBMIT!" lol

That's why I stated that the paopu fruit might somehow be involved. If their connections were due to the heart, how come they retained the yellow eyes and pointy ears even after losing their heart? It's the bodies that are connected not the hearts. That's why bodily figures were the changed result but they acted the same. Take into consideration Braig before and after his transformation in BBS. Could you say his character changed in any way? Besides of course the receiving of the yellow eyes and pointy ears? Now someone might say, well Terra's body changed when MX took over it. And yes thats true, but you have to understand, Terra's heart was no longer in control over the body so features that were accustomed to MX's heart changed the look of Terra's body. But when it comes to Braig or Isa, only the eyes and ears changed. Simply because of connection of course but not through the heart. That's why I'm saying once Xehanort returns, only the bodies of Braig and Isa will return.
 
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