Why Ven's really special.

[Iridium]

That doesn't really explain much :v

 

[The Enchanted]

This dual wielding ability (that Noruma has mentioned) could mean that Ven is the person described in the legend. I think this means he has the choice to choose sides and bring peace or chaos. This is why MX wanted him.

Ven being ambidextrous isn't important.
Being able to wield two Keyblades at the same time that's important, but Ven hasn't exhibited that ability.
Also, MX seems intrested in Ven and Terra, not just Ven. So both hold importantce in his mind.
The Chaos and Peace part technically goes for any Keyblade Master, not just 1.

So, MX tries to manipulate him using Terra who I think obviously betrays him (they always say used to be friends) and when Ven thinks he is to dangerous to be kept alive he asks Aqua (that shadow is obviously her in her non armor outfit) to erase him (like when Axel was ordered to erase Roxas).

Terra and Ven are friends, no where in any trailer or interview did it say they weren't friends in BBS.

I also think Kairi had a keychain becauese she is obviously qualified to wield a keyblade

Foolishess at it's highest.

from the realm of light like Riku and Mickey accept since they walk the path of dawn (heading towards light) they are qualified for either but use them for light while twilight is qualified for both too, but leads to darkness (the path Terra wound up on).

Terra isn't Twilight he is Light heading to the path of darkness.

Roxas was a nobody created off of Ven's heart instead of Sora's which is why he resembles Ven though has no memories of him.

Roxas is Sora's Nobody, Nomura confirmed it.

So in the final battle that MX won a. MX projected himself out of his apprentice, b. Terra opened up too much towards the darkness in order to defeat MX so MX's heart relocated to Terra. The world was consumed by darkness (I think MX might have planned to consume the RoL) and they wound up in the RoN both struggling for control as their memories faded MX outlasts Terra remembering the name Xehanort (could be more related too his heart the Guardian) and winds up in Radiant Gardens.

Fanfic.

Also, I think Xion was probably an unbirth mistaken for a heartless referred to in the Secret Ansem Reports. So she had Kairi's appearance but some memories of Sora. More theories on 358/2 and Coded will come later.

Xion has more chance of being Kairi's Nobody than Namine.

 

[Insomniac]

Read this, Kingdom Hearts: Another Report - Kingdom Hearts 3 ,before you ever post on this site again.

I have read it. I know it fairly well. Maybe you should read it. You seem to not know most of the information that's in it. If you did this theory would not have been made. My questions weren't because I didn't know they were because you apparently didin't.

358/2 Days is not a sequal it's a prequal. They didn't design her yet because, she wasn't mentioned in the game. They didn't even completely design Birth by Sleep yet and, that began design before 358/2 Days.

 

[Org14Kurix(Riku)]

There.

V - There is still a lot of mystery about the Keyblades I think. The “Light side, Heart of Worlds Keyblade” that Sora wields, the “Keyblade of People’s Hearts” made from the Seven Princesses’ hearts for Riku, and the “Dark side, Heart of Worlds Keyblade” that the King obtained in the realm of darkness; presently these 3 types can be confirmed. Could you please explain things a little further?

Keyblades have 2 different constitutions, either from the Light side or the Dark side. This is merely the exterior key. The inner key can act from either side and its abilities won’t change. There is no clear division between Good and Evil. Usually the door to each world is closed and the Keyhole itself is not visible. By bringing a Keyblade nearby, the Keyhole appears. But the lock is not actually closed itself. Indeed, the Heartless were able to find the door, easily open it and in this way steal hearts. In the previous game, Sora turned the locks and closed these doors. Furthermore, about the opened door of the integrated heart of worlds “Kingdom Hearts” itself, to prevent the outflow of the Darkness within hearts, the intent and reasons were different so the Keyblade was used for a different purpose. In order to work, the door needs to be closed from both the Dark side and the Light side and both a Dark and Light realm Keyblade are needed. The King needed a Keyblade opposite from the realm of Light Keyblade that Sora had, so he went to the realm of Darkness to obtain one.

The Keyblade constructed from the Seven Princesses’ hearts that Riku obtained in the previous game allowed for the Keyhole in Hollow Bastion to appear. For the plan to cause Darkness to overflow from hearts, the special hearts held by the Princesses were used to artificially make this Keyblade, so it is different from a proper Keyblade. There are further suggestions that this Keyblade is artficial as well.

VI - Could you please give an explanation for the new Keyblade “Way to the Dawn” that Riku obtained and the Keyblade Kairi has, as well as what the conditions for using a Keyblade are?

There isn’t necessarily one Keyblade for the Dark side and one for the Light side, just as many as there exist people with qualified hearts. Concerning the conditions to wield one, at this stage, “Those with strong hearts” is the only obvious one. However, less obvious conditions still exist and there are still plans for an opportunity to reveal those. Riku’s “Way to the Dawn” and Kairi’s Keyblade are naturally the same type of Keyblade as Sora’s. However there is no particular explanation for the Soul Eater’s transfer and occurence (Riku: Nomura previously confirmed that Soul Eater changed into Way to the Dawn), as well as Riku’s handing it to Kairi. When there isn’t a normal process of acquisition, I think it’s ok to think there is some deeper meaning there.

There there.
By same type I mean all 3 are all constituted of light.

 

[Iridium]

You are doing horribly at making a proper argument, if anything you're just signifying his point even more :v

 

[Muse]

My latest theory is that there are 14 pure hearts (7 light) (7 darkness) and another much more valuable heart.

It's not impossible that there are 7 Hearts of Pure Darkness.

I know some of you have all noticed by now that Roxas's preferred keyblades of choice both have keychains and 1 is from light while the other is from darkness. This dual wielding ability (that Noruma has mentioned) could mean that Ven is the person described in the legend. I think this means he has the choice to choose sides and bring peace or chaos. This is why MX wanted him. Most likely, he can unlock a legendary power (otherwise known as the forbidden secret) but, either way he is still the biggest threat to MX.

I don't know if that legend should be taken for truth or not. After all, it is a legend which logically should be dealt with as delicately as Kairi's Grandmother's story.

So MX tries to manipulate him using Terra who I think obviously betrays him (they always say used to be friends) and when Ven thinks he is to dangerous to be kept alive he asks Aqua (that shadow is obviously her in her non armor outfit) to erase him (like when Axel was ordered to erase Roxas). In the battle we see when Ven is frozen his body is damaged, therefore it is most likely that the damages were so severe his heart (which can move to other bodies the same as PoHs and pure dark hearts) that it relocated to Sora's heart.

I don't remember either MX nor Terra ever calling each other 'friends'. Where'd you pull that from?

Ven's heart relocated to Sora's heart? Do you mean Sora's body? Question: How would Ven's heart travel all the way from the scene where the battle took place to Destiny Islands, which if I remember correctly, is a completely different world?

Also I think when a master picks an apprentice they are given a keyblade but until they are qualified to be a chosen wielder (Noruma said there are multiple) it doesn't have a keychain. I also think Kairi had a keychain becauese she is obviously qualified to wield a keyblade from the realm of light like Riku and Mickey accept since they walk the path of dawn (heading towards light) they are qualified for either but use them for light while twilight is qualified for both too, but leads to darkness (the path Terra wound up on). Roxas was a nobody created off of Ven's heart instead of Sora's which is why he resembles Ven though has no memories of him.

Keyblade choses its wielder. Yes, it's said that Terra originally chose Riku to be the Keyblade wielder, but did he have the power to actually give Riku the ability to wield? No. In the end, though, the Keyblade chose Riku. And later, Sora.

*Ahem.*

1. Kairi was not wielding,
2. That was not her Keyblade,
3. That was not her Keychain.

Riku was dual-wielding, ie: He split the WtD into two Keyblades, and allowed Kairi to hold onto the second one. She didn't summon it on her own, she could only hold onto it because Riku gave her permission to, and it's Riku's Keyblade. And as far as we know, Kairi isn't 'obviously qualified' to wield a Keyblade because, as far as we know, her heart is relatively weak. You need a strong heart to even be considered qualified to wield a Keyblade.

If Roxas was a Nobody created through Ven's heart leaving Sora's body, why did we see only two hearts coming out of Sora? Also, if that was the case, then whatever happened to Ven's heart?

I think Terra winds up working for Maleficent because she helps him find the power to protect his friends. So in the final battle that MX won a. MX projected himself out of his apprentice, b. Terra opened up too much towards the darkness in order to defeat MX so MX's heart relocated to Terra. The world was consumed by darkness (I think MX might have planned to consume the RoL) and they wound up in the RoN both struggling for control as their memories faded MX outlasts Terra remembering the name Xehanort (could be more related too his heart the Guardian) and winds up in Radiant Gardens. Since the heart effects appearances (a difference between somebodies and nobodies) Xehanort is more of a median between MX and Terra in appearance. Also he thought KH was filled of darkness because he was thinking of the one found in the RoL.

What does Maleficent have to do with anything? It sounds like you just threw her in at random.

MX projected himself out of DS? It's more like DS was projected out of MX.

How would they get from the Realm of Nothingness to Radiant Garden?

And it was Ansem SoD that thought Kingdom Hearts was filled with darkness, not Apprentice Xehanort. Slight difference there.

Also in another report Nomura mentions nothing about a keyblade from the realm of inbetween. Also, I think Xion was probably an unbirth mistaken for a heartless referred to in the Secret Ansem Reports. So she had Kairi's appearance but some memories of Sora. More theories on 358/2 and Coded will come later.

Because there are only Keyblades from the Realm of Light and the Realm of Darkness. No Realm of Inbetween or Realm of Nothingness Keyblades.

Unbirths don't exist in the current timeline. And why would Xion be mistaken for a Heartless? She's in an Organization of Nobodies. If they thought she was a Heartless, she wouldn't have been inducted into the Org.

What does Xion even have to do with this theory?! How does Xion have Kairi's appearance and memories of Sora? Elaborate. And explain what she has to do with this theory, please.

Edit: The format you chose to write this in bothers me. The size is a tad big and the unnecessary indentions are, well, unnecessary.

 

[Byronic Hero]

There there.

And this proves what I posted wrong, how?

Ya know what, this theory has been proved to have waay too many faults to be possible, and since you cant come up with any decent bases for it, I move that it be closed, due to pure BSness.

 

[Org14Kurix(Riku)]

I have read it. I know it fairly well. Maybe you should read it. You seem to not know most of the information that's in it. If you did this theory would not have been made. My questions weren't because I didn't know they were because you apparently didin't.

358/2 Days is not a sequal it's a prequal. They didn't design her yet because, she wasn't mentioned in the game. They didn't even completely design Birth by Sleep yet and, that began design before 358/2 Days.

Who says they have to mention all of there ideas in the previous game, he left hints for the new games in Anoteher Report so you should read it again. He had to have some idea of what took place or else what occured with Roxas might have been different. Think before you type.

 

[Muse]

Think before you type.

Ooh, look! Hypocrisy!

 

[Insomniac]

Who says they have to mention all of there ideas in the previous game, he left hints for the new games in Anoteher Report so you should read it again. He had to have some idea of what took place or else what occured with Roxas might have been different. Think before you type.

I do put thought into my posts unlike you. Your theory makes no sense. Just because your wrong and can't uphold a proper arguement doesn't make anyone else any less intelligant. So next time thoroughly reseach your information and, then chack it again so you might actually make a decent theory. Nomura didin't design Xion yet. Deal with it.

 

[Org14Kurix(Riku)]

It's not impossible that there are 7 Hearts of Pure Darkness.



I don't know if that legend should be taken for truth or not. After all, it is a legend which logically should be dealt with as delicately as Kairi's Grandmother's story.



I don't remember either MX nor Terra ever calling each other 'friends'. Where'd you pull that from?

Ven's heart relocated to Sora's heart? Do you mean Sora's body? Question: How would Ven's heart travel all the way from the scene where the battle took place to Destiny Islands, which if I remember correctly, is a completely different world?



Keyblade choses its wielder. Yes, it's said that Terra originally chose Riku to be the Keyblade wielder, but did he have the power to actually give Riku the ability to wield? No. In the end, though, the Keyblade chose Riku. And later, Sora.

*Ahem.*

1. Kairi was not wielding,
2. That was not her Keyblade,
3. That was not her Keychain.

Riku was dual-wielding, ie: He split the WtD into two Keyblades, and allowed Kairi to hold onto the second one. She didn't summon it on her own, she could only hold onto it because Riku gave her permission to, and it's Riku's Keyblade. And as far as we know, Kairi isn't 'obviously qualified' to wield a Keyblade because, as far as we know, her heart is relatively weak. You need a strong heart to even be considered qualified to wield a Keyblade.

If Roxas was a Nobody created through Ven's heart leaving Sora's body, why did we see only two hearts coming out of Sora? Also, if that was the case, then whatever happened to Ven's heart?



What does Maleficent have to do with anything? It sounds like you just threw her in at random.

MX projected himself out of DS? It's more like DS was projected out of MX.

How would they get from the Realm of Nothingness to Radiant Garden?

And it was Ansem SoD that thought Kingdom Hearts was filled with darkness, not Apprentice Xehanort. Slight difference there.



Because there are only Keyblades from the Realm of Light and the Realm of Darkness. No Realm of Inbetween or Realm of Nothingness Keyblades.

Unbirths don't exist in the current timeline. And why would Xion be mistaken for a Heartless? She's in an Organization of Nobodies. If they thought she was a Heartless, she wouldn't have been inducted into the Org.

What does Xion even have to do with this theory?! How does Xion have Kairi's appearance and memories of Sora? Elaborate. And explain what she has to do with this theory, please.

Edit: The format you chose to write this in bothers me. The size is a tad big and the unnecessary indentions are, well, unnecessary.

That's your theory, Nomura said Roxas and Sora could dual wield nothing about Riku, I didn't say Terra and MX were friends I said Terra and Ven, Maleficent probably has a large role that led into KH1.
Xion theory was just a thought, follow up will occur later.

 

[Iridium]

Christ, it was mentioned in the reports and in the novels.. and if you are going to quote someone do it properly.

 

[Org14Kurix(Riku)]

just explained KH thing on page 2 with edit.

 

[Org14Kurix(Riku)]

and what was mentioned in reports and novels, due you have a link?

 

[Muse]

That's your theory, Nomura said Roxas and Sora could dual wield nothing about Riku, I didn't say Terra and MX were friends I said Terra and Ven, Maleficent probably has a large role that led into KH1.

Theory? What theory? o.o; Did I post a theory somewhere in my thread without me actually knowing it?

Oh... Wait. You're talking about the Riku dual-wielding part. It's in one of Nomura's interviews. He confirmed it as Riku dual-wielding. Or are you telling me you honestly didn't see Rikunort hand Kairi the damn Keyblade, because honestly, that pretty much confirms that Kairi didn't summon it on her own.

You didn't specify who you said were friends. You just said that they called each other friends. While you were talking about MX and Terra. Can you see where I got confused?

I never said she didn't. I'm just saying that you just threw her in randomly with no real purpose, just like what you did with Xion in the end.

 

[Byronic Hero]

That's your theory, Nomura said Roxas and Sora could dual wield nothing about Riku, I didn't say Terra and MX were friends I said Terra and Ven, Maleficent probably has a large role that led into KH1.
Xion theory was just a thought, follow up will occur later.

Soul Eater’s transfer and occurence (Riku: Nomura previously confirmed that Soul Eater changed into Way to the Dawn), as well as Riku’s handing it to Kairi.

Sounds like Duel Wielding to me, 'specially since Riku still had the WtD in his hand.

 

[Org14Kurix(Riku)]

If Riku could dual wield (still doubt it) there could be 2 legendary wielders, Ven and Terra, though I think my theory is more likely and we will find out later this year, hopefully we can get a better idea after the next Coded download is available.

 

[Byronic Hero]

Hehe, you're indenial, your theory has been disproved on several occasions. Besides, what do you mean "Legendary Wielders"? Where did that come from?

 

[Org14Kurix(Riku)]

VII - In KH, at the same time Sora became a Heartless, Roxas was born and entered the Organization. So if that’s the case, at that point in time at Castle Oblivion, Sora used a Keyblade while at the same time, Roxas would have been using a Keyblade. Was this Sora’s keyblade? Within the Organization, I think we particularly saw Roxas using a Keyblade. And similar to Roxas, Sora served as another Keyblade Master conveniently gathering hearts. So why was the Organization defeated?

The Keyblade that Roxas used and the Keyblade that Sora once lost in Castle Oblivion are the same thing. Furthermore, these two both used the Keyblade at the same time. This can be explained by the relationship between Roxas and Sora. Thus, they both can wield two Keyblades, which, in fact, has an important meaning. This is also related to Xehanort’s memories, but this point can’t be touched on just yet.

Furthermore, from the time that the two were both using the Keyblade at the same time, the Organization itself was using Sora for their ultimate goal. Soon enough, each of the Organization’s expectations differed. By changing Sora’s and Roxas’ movements, eventually they became unable to use Sora for their true meaning. As a result, Sora became an obstacle to the movements of the Organization itself and he had to be defeated. But even if Sora were to be defeated, you could say there are other things to think about in making that sacrifice.

Remember Nomura also said Ven and Sora are connected.

 

[KH~faNaTic22]

Thats a pretty good theory. Im impressed.