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ansem is DiZ's shell... when you beat ansem for the last time at the end of CoM ansems says"im only a mere shell".... of DiZ is the question...
 

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diz is like this thing called a shell, he is the shell of ansem

he wants to destroy the org even tho he was orginally part of it
 

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when you beat ansem for the last time at the end of CoM ansems says"im only a mere shell".... of DiZ is the question...

Ansem did not say he was a shell, where did you get that stupid Idea?
 

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Themuffinman said:
Ansem did not say he was a shell, where did you get that stupid Idea?
dude yeah he did. go beat CoM wiht riku right now. he says it ive checked it many times to make sure i wasnt dreaming. andi respect you cause your the noob pwner adn what not but seriosly he says it.
 

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show something that conferms that diz is ansems shell. and im not saying that ansem is diz's shell but when you beat him wiht riku at the end of CoM he says "im only a mere shell" right before he blows up into his big ball of darkenss or w/e
 

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Okay, I'm about to beat Ansem... and I am going to write down EVERYTHING he says:

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Riku: Come on out Ansem, I can smell you...

Ansem: Oh I know what you can do. Your skill with darkness has matured

Ansem: But I do not understand. Why accept darkness, and still refuse me?

Ansem: You and I are similar. We both follow where the darkness leads...

Ansem: We exist in the same space--so why deny me?

Ansem: Perhaps some part of you still fears the dark?

Riku: Wrong. The truth is...

Riku: You just really stink.

Ansem: You are a fool to choose a fight with me

Ansem: You've been conquered by me once before. You should know what sort of power you face...

Riku: Oh I do...I used all the power you had to give and still lost to Sora

Riku: I'm not impressed

Ansem: Very well... then sink into the dark abyss!

*I beat ansem*

Ansem: Insolent brat!

Riku: Ansem...

*Slices through ansem*

Riku: You're finished!

Ansem: Hardly...finished...I gave you....the dark...My shadow...lingers...

Ansem: I WILL RETURN!

*Ansem disappears into the darkness and Mickey saves Riku, Ansem is never seen again*

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There you go... Ansem never said ANYTHING about a Shell...

BTW:

Diz has the same Skin tone and eyes as Ansem, Is confirmed to have Ansems Voice, Vexen describes him as "He is Ansem, and He is not Ansem", and the infamous "They must not know our plans Ansem" scene...
 

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I have beaten Kingdom Hearts: COM over five times, spent hours trying to aquire new info on KH2 and I still have no idea how all of you are obtaining all thses facts on the game. Could anyone tell me where all this is coming from cause I'm really confused.
 

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frodo101 said:
DiZ is ansem
You're only half right. Ansem is the flesh of the former Ansem. See Ansem was good a while ago, then his heart got corrupted by darkness, to purge himself of darkness, true Ansem split into 2. Maybe even 3. The maniac Ansem, DiZ, Quite possibly the EM.

See DiZ wants to destry the Organization. And if I'm correct, then EM is the leader, who is also a part of Ansem. Maybe the heart, or Soul? Which would explain why he's a nobody. And Diz probably doesn't want to be complete again, cuz you know; Ansem's a friking maniac; so he is trying to recruit BHK, Sora, Namine, and Riku so that he can stop the Org. from opening Kingdom Hearts so that they may become whole again. And IF that's the real storyline...Yay, I figured it out!^_^And sorry I ruined it for the rest of you.
 

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No, you figured nothing out because that theory is completely wrong >_>

Wanna know why? Lets see...

Ansem did not cast off his body and soul in order to purge himself of darkness, he did it to go deeper into the darkness!

Also:

THE BODY AND SOUL CANNOT SEPERATE!!

Why do none of you understand that the body and Soul cannot seperate!??!

A heart can be strong enough to survive on it's own, and Ansem's heart was so strong that he could live off of his heart alone. The heart will just have no form, which is why Ansem needed to use Riku as a vessel, because he had no body of his own.

The body, nor the soul, are strong enough to do this. But together, they can survive and keep living. The soul keeps the body alive, and the body give the soul something to reside in. Together they make another existance!

But because they are not whole, and they are not what they truly are, they cannot be deemed existant, thus the name: Non-Existant-One!

And BTW:

The EM is working for Diz.

And also, just because Diz is trying to destroy the Order, doesn't mean that he is not the Superior of it! Maybe he thinks that the Order is trying to overthrow him, or betray him. Or maybe he created the Order to study the heart, but it's members are trying to corrupt it and make it soemthing he doesn't want it to do...

Ever think of that!!?
 

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This is a forum where people post thier theory's, and other people say why they're wrong, or why they are right. I just happened to be able to see pretty much anything that is wrong with a theory.

Just because you don't have the intellegence to comprehend what I'm saying, doesn't mean my points aren't valid >_>

I'm not going to site here and be preached by a freakin 13 year old, so:

STFU
Aflip.bmp
 

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Sora's Shadow said:
you like flaming dont ya. here's some advice. get a life!
Ummm, are you talking to Muffin Man? Because, just for your information, he wasn't flaming. Copy and paste an example from his post where you see him flaming, and we'll see if you're right about it.
 
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