who does "DIZ" think he is plus other points

[jamietl]

playing through the beggining part of kh2 again, and i realise what an idiot diz is, i cant even work out why he is doing most of the things he does.
1. it was sora's mind not power that was in turmoil so there was no need to capture roxas AND wipe his mind blank.
2. who is he to say who or what has the right to do anything "a nobody has no rights", the fact that he is able to be talked to means that he is somebody, therefore he has rights.
3. "dispose of namine", shows his complete disregard for anone/thing that does what what they desire, he did just what marluxia was doing, practically trapping her.

here are some other things that ive been confused about or cant remember
1. what is "ansem the wise", normal, or nobody (he looks too normal to be heartless)
2. why doesn't riku have a nobody, as he opened his heart to darkness and was overwhelmed, isn't that the same as having your heart taken (plus ansem was a heartless).
3. the part about nobodies having no emotions is completely wrong, in the first part with roxas you see him go through sorrow, confusion and happiness meaning he has emotions, let alone looking at the other organisation members'.

lastly i find it annoying that the org members were being attacked, they knew no better than to seek out out what they wanted (yet another emotion, desire), like a young child would to get his food.
what does anyone else think about these matters?

 

[Koji]

DiZ created the major Crisis in Kingdom Hearts so he felt it is his duty to fix it. I agree, he can be cold towards nobodies.

Some answers.
1)DiZ is normal. His heart told him to die, destroying Xemnas' Kingdom Hearts so he's no nobody.
2)Riku is the Twilight Keyblade Master. He originally opened his heart to darkness, and became strong but lost all hope and light. Then he avoided darkness and was very weak. Later, he realized that he had the power to control darkness so long as he retains his light as well, therefore bearing both light and darkness.
3)Nobodies know what emotions feel like because they remember what it was like to have a heart. Their emotions are false though.

 

[jamietl]

"3)Nobodies know what emotions feel like because they remember what it was like to have a heart. Their emotions are false though."

maybe with most of them, however roxas's mind had been wiped, he thought that he was normal so th "false emotions" must have been real, theyre both the same so false and real emotions are the same.

 

[Zero]

Why cant you just call him Ansem?I mean thats his name.

 

[Koji]

Roxas memories were not wiped completely. He was able to recall things when it happened again, like Axel being his friend, his fight against Riku, his part in the org, and maybe his feelings too. I'm just using the fact that he recalled feelings as a theory. Really, I dont know if it is true. Maybe that statement that nobodies have no feelings is false.

Roxas claimed that he had a heart. He seemed to have feelings too along with Namine, but Xemnas said he can not feel emotion.

 

[Professor Ven]

DiZ

1.DiZ needed someone who could move about the Realm of Light and destroy Organization XIII. Therefore instead of Roxas, he needed Sora.

Sora had to be put to sleep for a year, for Namine to tak out the false memories she put in his mind. Roxas onthe other hand, had little memories of Sora, from Sora only being a Heartless for only a short period of time.

2.In his mind, "A Nobody has no rights.":

Basically a Nobody is the body and soul of a person; they lack a Heart. Therefore they are not considered as a whole person, more as an Other or half a person. In that perspective they hold no rights, not being a full person.

Also DiZ's mind is still on Organization XIII - with the Nobodies of his traitor apprentices at it's core.

3."Dispose of Namine."

She and Roxas were never meant to exist-being the fact Sora was a KeyBlade Wielder and Kairi a Princess of Heart pertains to this. Being both of high status in the Realm of Light, they were never meant to lose their Hearts naturally;

Also is the fact that being a Nobody is being out of nature- The Heart, Body, and Soul are meant to be together, thus creating a whole person. Here in the nature of Man they are meant to exist; To take one out of the Trinity is to defy the laws of nature, thus creating a whole different being, not meant to exist in Man's nature.

Confusion(s)

1.DiZ still has his Heart, but revenge has eaten away at it slightly, making his eye color diiferent.

2.Ansem the Wise (DiZ) did not have a Heartless. Ansem from the Kingomd Hearts 1 game was really the Heartless of Xehanort, one of six of Ansem the Wise (DiZ's) apprentices.

Riku, on the other hand; His Heart was very strong, and he was possessed by Xehanort's Heartless during the last levels of the game (Hollow Bastion-End Of The Worlds) He was the true KeyBlade Wielder, but he willingly walked the path to Darkness at the beginning of the game; Sora had the purest Heart to wield the KeyBlade when Riku turned to Darkness.

3.Nobodies have no Hearts, so, from The Ansem Reports in KH2, DiZ (Ansem the Wise) finds that Nobodies have no emotions, pertaining to the fact that they have no Hearts. Roxas' Heart was returning to him, giving him emotions, however slight.

The Organization were seeking for a way to unlock Kingdom Hearts, and thus obtain their Hearts back, and become whole again. Xemnas drones on about it during the whole game whenever he's in a cutscene.

 

[Zexionia]

]First Off sorry if any of this information was already posted i just checked through very quickly cause i wanted to reply my thoughts before someone else did ^^

Let me clear up a little what Jub said a little,
DiZ was angry at the time, he was filled with rage and wanted revenge on Xemnas(Xehanort, if thasts spelled correctly) In order for Diz to have his revenge he needed sora like Jub said, the whole bit about moving around the realms and stuff. Yes i to also agree that is was unfair of Diz to treat Roxas the way he did, even he new that roxas was special but he was blinded by revenge

Diz is also human and from what i understand went undercover and into the organization to gain information (thus him finding out about Xemnas) it is possible, more that than, that he was trying to look like a heartless or some creature from the dark

And the organization probably felt it right that they had to continue living in the dark and acting somewhat like heartless.
SPOILER!! Don't READ THE REST IF YOU HAVN:T BEAT GAME UNLESS U WANT TO
Xemnas stated at the end of the game that the nobodies were rejected by both light and dark and thought that (in my opinion) the only way they could be apart of it was to get some hearts. Now how else can u get a heart besides they way they do it?

 

[Koji]

1.DiZ still has his Heart, but revenge has eaten away at it slightly, making his eye color diiferent.

But his eyes were yellow in Mickey's story of when he first met Ansem. That was during the experiments but before the crisis.