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Really? You trust "medical experts" (i can only assume on twitter) who havent done the autopsy... over the person who actually conducted the autopsy based on a conspiracy theory that he lied about epstein? Thats incredibleWhat I do know is this person has already lied once. I would not trust them again especially when other medical professionals are refuting them.
No government official or journalist pointed to antifa being present, and I'm not American but a quick search tell me Portland is a 26 hour drive to Minneapolis. Not sure what the correlation is here. As such, I'm not inclined to believe in this until I see video evidence or a reputable third party claim the information. Just because you say Antifa are there, doesn't mean I have to believe you.
For someone who staunchly believes that there's a left wing conspiracy at play during these riots, I'm astonished you think Epstein wasn't killedReally? You trust "medical experts" (i can only assume on twitter) who havent done the autopsy... over the person who actually conducted the autopsy based on a conspiracy theory that he lied about epstein? Thats incredible
There are factions of antifa across the states. Portland has just been an easy target in recent years because the mayor puts up with their bullshit, but its obvious theyre the ones who destroyed portland last night so to pretend antifa isnt involved here is ridiculous
I dont care enough about this to "staunchly" believe anything. I never said epstein wasnt killed either, but the autopsy never disproved his "murder" to begin withFor someone who staunchly believes that there's a left wing conspiracy at play during these riots, I'm astonished you think Epstein wasn't killed
"bare minimum" continues to increase until the expectations are impossible to meet. Even if becoming a cop required a bachelors degree in addition to the academy it would take 6 years or more to meet your expectations. I don't know if you've been to college in america, but its expensive and the standards aren't that high to begin with. And there is already a ton to cover at the academy but most of what cops learn comes from being on the job.I find this bs imo. Teachers get paid far less than that and have to be trained in basic first aid as well as dealing with special needs. If you're in a public service role you should be prepared to deal with the public. I think American police have had it too good for too long and don't want to be put to more rigorous standards than previously. Let them leave then. A police force shouldn't have people not prepared to do the bare minimum to ensure they deal with the public safely
I find this bs imo. Teachers get paid far less than that and have to be trained in basic first aid as well as dealing with special needs. If you're in a public service role you should be prepared to deal with the public. I think American police have had it too good for too long and don't want to be put to more rigorous standards than previously. Let them leave then. A police force shouldn't have people not prepared to do the bare minimum to ensure they deal with the public safely
Are you aware of how teachers are taught basic first aid? It's a couple of hours in one day. That's it. They get certified, then they get re certified the next year. It's half a day of training. Those are not impossible standards. It doesn't require a degrees worth of knowledge to undertake, in fact 16 year olds are allowed on these coursed and can be certified. I laid out very simply that two things that should be standard for police officers to do that wouldn't take any time at all."bare minimum" continues to increase until the expectations are impossible to meet. Even if becoming a cop required a bachelors degree in addition to the academy it would take 6 years or more to meet your expectations. I don't know if you've been to college in america, but its expensive and the standards aren't that high to begin with. And there is already a ton to cover at the academy but most of what cops learn comes from being on the job.
You don't understand that cops are human and they will naturally make mistakes. It is impossible to 100% ensure mistakes won't happen. Even with extra training, retaining information and actually implementing what you've learned on active duty takes many many years. If a person couldn't graduate until your standards are met you're probably looking at 8 years of schooling and it would be impossible to maintain a steady supply of new police at that rate.
Not to mention being a cop is a high risk job. and it's not just "serving the people" either. They are required to know law, and are required to file detailed police reports. They put themselves in danger every time they respond to a call. And on top of that it's a thankless job. Look at how they're being treated right now.
I respect fire fighters a great deal as well, but they don't have near the same level of responsibility. Cops should be seen in our country as heroes, but they aren't. They're taken for granted and hated because a few of them make bad decisions or do terrible things. Instead who is propped up on a pedestal? It's athletes, actors, singers, political and religious activists.
You'll believe what you want to, but many cops resent their jobs. A lot of them go into it wanting to do good. I wanted to be a cop since I was a kid but my father actively discouraged me and now I can make up to 90k a year doing simple engineering work with little to no stress
engineers are the same way. Why? Because theory doesn't mean shit when it comes to practicality. There are an inumerable amount of things you learn about in academy and college that you would never ever have to use in the field. That's the way it goes. But if you think you know better than I guess thats that, vote for who you vote for.Lol I worked with cops for two years. They are clueless when they start and clueless when they finish their 6 months. I wouldn’t trust them with my life. I’ve never seen a bunch of more scatterbrained people in my life. I’ve had grown adult men ask me what size pant they should buy for their uniform. GROWN ADULT MEN.
Cops should have to go to college and get a degree and go through another two years of training with ample training in deescalation, mental health, psychology, criminology, and law in the same way we teach lawyers before they are fit for the field.
If every other field requires years of training, there is no reason why cops should be exempt from this as well.
Not to mention teachers have to go to school for years before they can actually teach, and if you want to teach higher levels you have to get more degrees and maybe get paid $40k in K-12 and $60k as a college professor.
Cops are also certified in basic first aid, i don't understand your point. There is a difference in teaching someone first aid and conditioning officers to perform well in a high stress job at a reasonable rate.Are you aware of how teachers are taught basic first aid? It's a couple of hours in one day. That's it. They get certified, then they get re certified the next year. It's half a day of training. Those are not impossible standards. It doesn't require a degrees worth of knowledge to undertake, in fact 16 year olds are allowed on these coursed and can be certified. I laid out very simply that two things that should be standard for police officers to do that wouldn't take any time at all.
The public sector is not a place to go for self fulfilment
engineers are the same way. Why? Because theory doesn't mean shit when it comes to practicality. There are an inumerable amount of things you learn about in academy and college that you would never ever have to use in the field. That's the way it goes. But if you think you know better than I guess thats that, vote for who you vote for.
I'm aware, I'm an engineer. You're the one saying you want cops to have a college degree, I'm just telling you its not practical and wouldn't change anything except severely limit the number of cops that are availableEngineers go to school for 5 years my dude. They learn on the job and so does everybody else in any field but cops only go to train for 6 months without any degrees outside of a HS/GED degree. How is that even equivalent?
Cops are also certified in basic first aid, i don't understand your point. There is a difference in teaching someone first aid and conditioning officers to perform well in a high stress job at a reasonable rate.
thanks for lecturing me on self fulfillment. I was in the navy before i came to private sector by the way.