What do you think of 358/2 Days?

[Deleted member]

Always when I read stuff like "Days kept me in the series", I really dk what to say. HOW can a game like this do something like that? I just... dunno what to say.

No offense, guys. I respect your opinions. This is just my reaction, kind of.

Idk, I felt like LightUptheSky explained pretty well how it kept them in the series. It was the first new titles to be released after KH2 and was released 2 and a half years after it. For some people I could see them growing weary in this time, wondering if maybe they should exit the series (of course that being said it has been almost four years since the last new title released in English and here we all are lol) and that the series' focus on plot twists and mandate on keeping things surprising helped invigorate interest in the series.

 

[Muke]

I didn't specifically mean LightUptheSky. I talked about such comments in general.

But, yeah, now I get it. Sotty for misunderstanding your post, LightUptheSky.

 

[*TwilightNight*]

As I mentioned before, Xion wasn't apart of Days until the game was already in production. Taking that into consideration, and looking to KHII for context, I feel that Naminé was the girl Nomura had imagined Roxas left the Organization for, and the third piece of the Nobody trio. This would also better contextualize Naminé's actions and feelings during the Roxas segment of the game, as well as the scene with them on the top of The World That Never Was, and during the ending.

As a Naminé fan, I'm pretty upset about that.

Couple of months late, perhaps more, but as I filter through threads to entertain me I feel you have a very palpable point. Xion was created and added [unnecessarily so] by someone else in charge of the novels, and wasn't thought of at all by the director himself. Which is why they had to literally clean traces of her for KHII to be near sensible (KHII has its own issues, nonetheless). The reason why I'm replying is that while Nomura was more pegged as a scenario writer, it feels like he still managed to include shadows of what his original idea may (keyword) have been. This is in theory, but...I have Days, and shifting through it, as well as the HD remix, has your statement about Naminé being the ghost girl Nomura had in mind for Roxas leaving more and more plausible.

Despite the incredibly forced Xion insertion, Naminé's presence was still included when it came to his character. She sort of played the mysterious "woman in white" persona in his point of view. He's seen her in his visions (something that occurs in KHII as well), and in the scene when he deserts his friendship with Axel, it sets up the potential ties for Roxas towards Naminé later on with this simple, penultimate line: "Somebody knows where I came from. If I can't get answers here, I'll get them somewhere else. That'll be the person...I trust."

All in all, Naminé, even with what Days turned out to be, was situated to be the one to reveal what Roxas' true self is.

I first thought that it was a shallow shipping dialogue to sort out KHII and smooth over why Roxas and Naminé seemed close despite meeting only briefly, and that's more than likely the case. But it gives credence to your assumption. They're both my most favorite characters (next to Larxene, don't ask), so that would make up for Roxas' lack of character action and purpose in the game and I would have gotten to see more Naminé as added bonus.

I would have preferred this so much more. The potential and how it all would have connected is a loss. Yet I can't be angry at Days for what it could have been anymore. It's not going to change anything.

 

[Dreaded_Desire62]

I forgot to mention in my initial post that it was even Days that convinced me to keep on with the series. LOL.

Before then, I was kind of thinking about quitting (maybe thinking that I'd outgrown KH, and that I was in more of a bookish mood then because of things like Twilight).

And though Re:Chain of Memories was definitely nice, it made me lose my momentum with the saga some. Mainly because even though I appreciated/appreciate it, I already had played the GBA version quite a bit and knew the story well. For that reason Re:CoM didn't have the appeal to me that a new title would've, and I was deeply hankering for some kind of KH title to pull me in again while waiting after II.

Days did that for me (and it's why I'm even here today^_^) by giving me that KH feel that I love: making me think that I was smart and had it all figured out (in thinking that Xion was some sort of Kairi clone nor Nobody), but then being way off and learning that "one who knows nothing can understand nothing". LOL.

Honestly, Nomura keeping on my toes is one of the greatest reasons I love this series, and Days definitely helped me to remember that again and to keep with it.

Interestingly, it was Days that got me into being a Kingdom Hearts fan.

 

[Chuuya]

Days was so sad, my 16 year old brother even cried. I even got depressed after seeing the whole game. It was a good story and good game. I loved it, but was way off the boards with drama and sadness so much. Anyone who saw Xion's death and not feel a tiny bit sad is despicable.

 

[The_Echo]

Anyone who saw Xion's death and not feel a tiny bit sad is despicable.

What if I didn't feel sad because I felt that Xion was an overall nuisance, an unnecessary addition, a thinly-veiled "tragic" character whose death could be foreseen almost from the moment you look at the back of the box?

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I remember the first time I played KHII, and I got to the scene where the boulder hits Goofy and he "dies."
That scene got to me, even if for only a moment. Like yeah obviously he wasn't dead.
Because I like Goofy. He's a likable character. I don't wanna see bad things happen to characters I like.

But I didn't like Xion.
So I didn't cry.
I wasn't sad.
It was just "OK."

 

[Chuuya]

You sound just like Saix. Still, the scene was tragic to me how Roxas reacted to her death. She was the main point of the whole game, a part of Roxas' life. She's an important piece to the puzzle to answering questions about the story like why Roxas wanted to find Sora. She was a likeable character because she was caring to her friends and she was willing to DIE for Sora to awaken. I did get upset too when I thought Goofy died, but he actually didn't die. Xion returned to Sora for good, and it crushed Roxas and Axel. THAT made me upset.

 

[Sephiroth0812]

Several people, me included, actually didn't exactly feel that much about Xion's oh so tragic fate because the drama and sadness surrounding Xion was so "off the boards" and forced down the audience's throat every second corner of the whole game that it was simply an overload.
It was so overdone and pushed into center stage to overshadow everything else that yes indeed, there are people who actually got annoyed by that.

 

[Chuuya]

Why did I have to start a discussion?......I just wanted to put my opinion out there cause even though the game wanted to be dark the whole time, Xion's death was the darkest moment that I know could upset a lot of children. Many people also love Xion so seeing her die can be tragic (I was upset when Axel died, that was even worse). I'm a sensitive person so things like movies or death itself upsets me.

 

[BlackOsprey]

Why did I have to start a discussion?......I just wanted to put my opinion out there cause even though the game wanted to be dark the whole time, Xion's death was the darkest moment that I know could upset a lot of children. Many people also love Xion so seeing her die can be tragic (I was upset when Axel died, that was even worse). I'm a sensitive person so things like movies or death itself upsets me.

People have different opinions, and we're dealing with one of the most divisive parts of this whole franchise. Please don't freak out, it'd be more surprising if people WEREN'T voicing their dislike for Days for the umpteenth time.

 

[Sephiroth0812]

Why did I have to start a discussion?......I just wanted to put my opinion out there cause even though the game wanted to be dark the whole time, Xion's death was the darkest moment that I know could upset a lot of children. Many people also love Xion so seeing her die can be tragic (I was upset when Axel died, that was even worse). I'm a sensitive person so things like movies or death itself upsets me.

Starting a discussion is not really a bad thing y'know.
Your opinion on the matter is certainly also completely valid and sound, but if you didn't want a debate to prop up then maybe you should have used some less aggressive wording as

Anyone who saw Xion's death and not feel a tiny bit sad is despicable.

this part is actually just baiting people to jump out and tear into yours with a diverging opinion.

 

[Chuuya]

*Sigh* True Sephy.....all of it. Sometimes I don't want to be in discussions cause it lasts FOREVER. And I never have really good combat. *scratches head*

 

[BlackOsprey]

*Sigh* True Sephy.....all of it. Sometimes I don't want to be in discussions cause it lasts FOREVER. And I never have really good combat. *scratches head*

If you don't want to have a conversation, you could just not reply, couldn't you?

 

[BufferAqua]

I had a very mixed reaction towards Xion's death. The tone of her death is sad... until Roxas said that mistranslated icecream line. Now that was funny.

 

[Chuuya]

Osprey, let's stop talking about that. Please. True Buffer, that was funny out of everything else that had happened.

 

[VoidGear.]

Yeah, so, uhm, I admit I was glad believing Xion was gone for good because seriously I would have forgiven SE for including this blighter of a character if it had only been for the "bad fanfiction" installment of the series.
But noooooooooooooo, suddenly people have to remember her and she's still part of everything. Gimme a break.
So no, I wasn't sad. The only thing I was sad about when Days ended was the amount of time I wasted on it. Ugh.

 

[ephemer]

I just got the game yesterday. While I had known of its plot and have read the manga (a very enjoyable experience), I had wanted to experience the game myself. I'm about 16 days in, and I agree, the battle system is kinda bad: Roxas is slow, graphics aren't the best quality, and Roxas is slow.
However, I am still enjoying it.
Probably because I emulated CoM and nothing gets worse than that I'll play the worst battle systems and they won't be as bad as emulating CoM.

As for Xion, I like Xion. Her death in the manga was very sad, coupled with Vector to Heavens, I'm probably going to cry.

We'll see, of course, what happens, since I'm barely in.

 

[h.e.hassanein]

I'm actually surprised at the amount of hate this game gets- to be fair, i've only watched the cutscenes so i have no idea how bad the gameplay was like....but considering that the thing i hold KH up to highest is the story it tells and the characters I'e come to love. So I like this installation more than most of the series because (what i've seen of) it's so focused on the storyline and the characters. Yeah the writing isn't the best. But I'm a sucker for the drama and the emotions and everything. Xion being a tragic plot device? Axel suddenly turning into a good guy for fan service? I understand those criticisms, but I still love how story-oriented this game is, whereas the rest of the series relies on leaving the bulk of the major plot points to ending sequences. 

 

[Divine Past]

I'm actually surprised at the amount of hate this game gets- to be fair, i've only watched the cutscenes so i have no idea how bad the gameplay was like....but considering that the thing i hold KH up to highest is the story it tells and the characters I'e come to love. So I like this installation more than most of the series because (what i've seen of) it's so focused on the storyline and the characters. Yeah the writing isn't the best. But I'm a sucker for the drama and the emotions and everything. Xion being a tragic plot device? Axel suddenly turning into a good guy for fan service? I understand those criticisms, but I still love how story-oriented this game is, whereas the rest of the series relies on leaving the bulk of the major plot points to ending sequences. 

I think if you play the game you'll understand why people hate it

Though I still love the game but the mission system drags so much. And the bosses...........

 

[EchoFringe49]

I personally love this game but I can see why people dislike it. I think Xion is a good character, even if her entire existence is a bit of a shallow plot device. The thing I most love about the game is the dialogue. All of the OrgXIII members have consistently great writing, it felt like they were actual characters unlike in KH2 or COM. I think its a lot better if you look it as a standalone game rather than part of the overall series.