Watch the KINGDOM HEARTS 0.2 Opening!
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Re: Watch: Footage of Kingdom Hearts HD DDD and 0.2 Birth by Sleep
Because it's recapping birth by sleep.
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Re: Watch: Footage of Kingdom Hearts HD DDD and 0.2 Birth by Sleep
If we're talking about the Opening... no? It's not (except at the beginning) I mean when he steps in to fight against Terranort and Venitas with Aqua.
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Edit: It's more of a symbolic recap than an accurate one. Aqua never fought Terranort in the Keyblade Graveyard, and yet it's happening there in the opening.
Mickey will also be wearing his BBS clothes in the flashback portion of 0.2, IIRC.
Because Aqua fighting against Terranort and Venitas takes place during Birth by Sleep, where he was sporting that outfit.
Edit: It's more of a symbolic recap than an accurate one. Aqua never fought Terranort in the Keyblade Graveyard, and yet it's happening there in the opening.
Mickey will also be wearing his BBS clothes in the flashback portion of 0.2, IIRC.
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Re: Watch: Footage of Kingdom Hearts HD DDD and 0.2 Birth by Sleep
Ohh okay, that makes sense I guess. Thanks!
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Re: Watch: Footage of Kingdom Hearts HD DDD and 0.2 Birth by Sleep
It takes place around KHI and CoM so he's wearing his CoM outfit
It takes place around KHI and CoM so he's wearing his CoM outfit
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But you're right. Red shirt, gold buttons, boys night out on the town
Yeah, I was trying to remember that half body shot of Mickey from the last trailer and I didn't really want to open it up again.
But you're right. Red shirt, gold buttons, boys night out on the town
You know what I really love about this opening? I think it finally helped some people see what I saw in Aqua's story.
People complained that "her story was nothing other than Ven and Terra Ven and Terra, where is her struggle?"
But her friends are everything to her. It's not that she doesn't have her own story, her story is her friends, her attempts to help and save them, and her own decent into darkness. It's no different than Sora in KH1 looking for his buddies while having some adventures along the way. In fact, their stories are almost exactly the same, I don't understand why Aqua is sometimes criticized for it while Sora is praised.
This opening did an excellent job focusing on her and what happened to her friends and how it affected her. Of course, their stories ultimately affected her story... but that's just how plots work? If something big happens, such as getting possessed by the enemy, doesn't affect SOMETHING, what is the point?
People complained that "her story was nothing other than Ven and Terra Ven and Terra, where is her struggle?"
But her friends are everything to her. It's not that she doesn't have her own story, her story is her friends, her attempts to help and save them, and her own decent into darkness. It's no different than Sora in KH1 looking for his buddies while having some adventures along the way. In fact, their stories are almost exactly the same, I don't understand why Aqua is sometimes criticized for it while Sora is praised.
This opening did an excellent job focusing on her and what happened to her friends and how it affected her. Of course, their stories ultimately affected her story... but that's just how plots work? If something big happens, such as getting possessed by the enemy, doesn't affect SOMETHING, what is the point?
Whoa. First time we've seen Xehanort since we lost Leonard.
Tbh that still doesn't justify the way she is treated in BBS.
Yes, her friends are everything to her, but she basically has no personal villain like Ventus and Terra do and she never even acts like a good friend for them. Her whole arc feels a little useless and that is not changed by the fact of her friends meaning everything to her.
Sora's friends mean everything to him but it still never feels like he blindly runs after his friends without a proper storyline around it.
Aqua's personal enemy in BBS was Male stupidity amirite. Men are the worse.
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Last I recall, Vanitas was as smart as her.
Then he formed into Ventus then nooooooooooooooooooooooooooope.
I feel like people prefer Sora because he has two great characters to play off in the form of Donald and Goofy. Riku has a nice dynamic with Mickey, and Sora himself of course, so fans like him as well. Theae characters get fleshed out because they consistently have other characters to bounce off of and grow with... There's nothing to dislike about Aqua, but she's always alone and never says anything interesting to anyone, and talks to herself a lot which is always a nono. If Aqua had a sidekick in BBS, some funny or interesting character to consistently mesh with, she would be far more interesting-- If Aqua had been Stitch's proverbial Lilo throughout the entirety of BBS, lots of fun stuff would have gone down in each world.
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It's not really that Aqua lacks a conflict it's that the game never focused on it. Like 0.2 is the first time we are actually seeing aqua's feelings and suffering be addressed. BBS the story just kinda never took a real moment to focus on Aqua there is always a Terra or Ven related thing taking focus instead. Like Radiant Garden is the worst of this because she gets called awful and just kinda takes it, neither of her friends explain anything to her, Terra like completely avoids a perfectly valid question, and next time she sees Ven it's like nothing between them happened. It's also clear they wanted her to have all the big villains as part of her story but...
This results in her having way more vanitas than Ventus but the conflict is always about/focused on Ventus.
A very random and anti-climactic battle with Braig and its Ven's angry glare in all this he will remember and constantly reference not anything about Aqua
A super anti-climactic fight between her and MX seeing as she and MX haven't even so much as shared a single conversation the entire gane
There is also a real issue in that none of the conflicts Aqua does have get focused. Her story is clearly meant to be a coming of age story, a young women graduating and stepping into the real world with a whole new host of responsibilities and creates a real divide between her and her non-grad friends. That is why we have all that Destiny island stuff where Awua basically not so subtly indicates she is regretting her life, the keyblade, and her position of master. But there is so little build up it comes almost out of no where and then promptly is dropped. Which makes this big decisive moment where she proudly declares herself master feel weightless because they spent even less time showing this like 180 of a view developed in the last like hour since she was on destiny island.
This results in her having way more vanitas than Ventus but the conflict is always about/focused on Ventus.
A very random and anti-climactic battle with Braig and its Ven's angry glare in all this he will remember and constantly reference not anything about Aqua
A super anti-climactic fight between her and MX seeing as she and MX haven't even so much as shared a single conversation the entire gane
There is also a real issue in that none of the conflicts Aqua does have get focused. Her story is clearly meant to be a coming of age story, a young women graduating and stepping into the real world with a whole new host of responsibilities and creates a real divide between her and her non-grad friends. That is why we have all that Destiny island stuff where Awua basically not so subtly indicates she is regretting her life, the keyblade, and her position of master. But there is so little build up it comes almost out of no where and then promptly is dropped. Which makes this big decisive moment where she proudly declares herself master feel weightless because they spent even less time showing this like 180 of a view developed in the last like hour since she was on destiny island.
I don't view these things as dropped, it's as you say, it is never quite focused on in BbS. It was never resolved.
They introduced many of the things she'll probably be encountering in 0.2. Balance of the light and darkness, more confidence in the strength of her heart which allowed her to become a Master in the first place. Heck, even the destiny of the little island children she decided she didn't want to get involved in the mess she considers the keyblade nearing the end as per her convo with AtW. Even her conflict with Xehanort might be more direct this time because he clearly wants something from her (still wondering about the mysterious talking armor and Xemnas referring to it as friend).
I feel if BbS had a better script writer or even if it had been completely developed for the PS2, these themes in Aqua's story would have been more pronounced, but they still wouldn't have been resolved. It still would have ended with unresolved drama between her friends, the enemy still somehow succeeding despite her best efforts, and her still wandering around in the dark realm or lost somewhere else. She still would be borderline giving up on life even when she's accepted her title as Master.
Given Nomura had concepts for BbSv2 planned right after BbS (the secret ending for it), I don't think Aqua's unresolved unfocused character arcs are a mistake or not even necessarily a sign of bad writing (though as always, it COULD have been done better). Her story just isn't complete and BbS was her backstory. It could have all been written in flashbacks.
If we had never gotten to play BbS and we were just introduced to Aqua one day with her backstory already written: "Master Xehanort and his dark apprentice Vanitas possessed her best friends. She was forced to fight and defeat them, hoping to free them from their entrapment. Ventus fell into a deep sleep, never to wake up again, and in efforts to save Terra, Aqua sacrificed herself, willingly falling into the darkness in Terra's place. Now, join Aqua as she ventures through the realm of darkness trying to find a way back to the Realm of Light and reunite with her friends."
I don't think people would have these complaints. I mean, I guess they are justified since her story can be written in a summary like this, but my overall view is that her story was never bad, her conflict didn't start until Master Xehanort really started jacking things up. Even this opening shows that, her real story started when Ven and Terra's ended.
Now all the stuff she didn't learn in BbS will test her relentlessly in the RoD. I suppose I can see peoples problems with that, that her story wasn't told in BbS itself, but her story there was keeping her friends out of trouble and she failed even though it was completely not her fault. Her real story now is all the baggage from that coupled with revisiting the small lessons that didn't seem to have much affect in BbS. In my opinion, as always.
They introduced many of the things she'll probably be encountering in 0.2. Balance of the light and darkness, more confidence in the strength of her heart which allowed her to become a Master in the first place. Heck, even the destiny of the little island children she decided she didn't want to get involved in the mess she considers the keyblade nearing the end as per her convo with AtW. Even her conflict with Xehanort might be more direct this time because he clearly wants something from her (still wondering about the mysterious talking armor and Xemnas referring to it as friend).
I feel if BbS had a better script writer or even if it had been completely developed for the PS2, these themes in Aqua's story would have been more pronounced, but they still wouldn't have been resolved. It still would have ended with unresolved drama between her friends, the enemy still somehow succeeding despite her best efforts, and her still wandering around in the dark realm or lost somewhere else. She still would be borderline giving up on life even when she's accepted her title as Master.
Given Nomura had concepts for BbSv2 planned right after BbS (the secret ending for it), I don't think Aqua's unresolved unfocused character arcs are a mistake or not even necessarily a sign of bad writing (though as always, it COULD have been done better). Her story just isn't complete and BbS was her backstory. It could have all been written in flashbacks.
If we had never gotten to play BbS and we were just introduced to Aqua one day with her backstory already written: "Master Xehanort and his dark apprentice Vanitas possessed her best friends. She was forced to fight and defeat them, hoping to free them from their entrapment. Ventus fell into a deep sleep, never to wake up again, and in efforts to save Terra, Aqua sacrificed herself, willingly falling into the darkness in Terra's place. Now, join Aqua as she ventures through the realm of darkness trying to find a way back to the Realm of Light and reunite with her friends."
I don't think people would have these complaints. I mean, I guess they are justified since her story can be written in a summary like this, but my overall view is that her story was never bad, her conflict didn't start until Master Xehanort really started jacking things up. Even this opening shows that, her real story started when Ven and Terra's ended.
Now all the stuff she didn't learn in BbS will test her relentlessly in the RoD. I suppose I can see peoples problems with that, that her story wasn't told in BbS itself, but her story there was keeping her friends out of trouble and she failed even though it was completely not her fault. Her real story now is all the baggage from that coupled with revisiting the small lessons that didn't seem to have much affect in BbS. In my opinion, as always.
I've actually come to think of it as the unofficial theme song of the whole series.
On an unrelated note, there's something up with the "Quick Reply" box at the bottom of the page. The space bar wouldn't work when I typed unless I went to "Go advance". Where would I go to post stuff like that for forum maintenance?
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Before, if we're talking about the bits where you play as Aqua. The scene with DiZ happens post-KH2. The bulk of 0.2 happens during KH1/CoM, which is how she runs into Mickey?
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