He isn't crumpled over, trying to compose himself in between fights with Aqua and Ven; if the deaths of the Unversed still hurt him, he's long gotten used to it. His hatred drives him to kill, and to enjoy killing, anyone who has what he doesn't. He's sadistic and irredeemable and utterly, utterly pitiable, and he needs to be put down as much for his own good as for the good of the worlds.
You can't tell me that after a boss Unversed battle, Vanitas didn't feel a bit more pain than normal. The small-fry like the Floods, Scrappers, and Jellyshades would probably do nothing...but something as behemoth as the Iron Imprisioners and even the Unversed formed through Vanitas because of the negative emotions of others...Those must have caused
some kind of extreme pain.
Really makes you think about just how black and white characters in KH look at things. And...I killed so many damn unversed ;-; tens of thousands of them. I never thought I'd feel anything for Vanitas...but damn
...If 3D moves the KH plot along...would it be selfish of me to ask that BBSv2 be character based and fill in holes that the other games left open. It wouldn't hurt to see just how humane all these characters are and just what are going through their heads. Everyone has their own troubles and level of troubles...Vanitas was no exception...and neither was Repliku. ;-; As twisted as Vanitas became...he still felt. He wasn't emotionless.
No, it wouldn't be selfish at all. :3 I think this is what we are all wishing for.
I have a strong hunch that Vanitas' Lingering Sentiment will return.
I don't think any of these themes will come out though. Between Disney and Nomura, I don't think things with this much emotional baggage and dark themes will ever see the light of day. But who knows. Nomura might cave in to fans, and they used a lot of exclusive novel content for Kingdom Hearts II Final Mix.
Haha, Nomura is the one who approves the novels. He honestly has no problem with these kinds of themes. Also, considering BBS was one big sob story, he really has no problem playing with people's heartstrings.
There are themes of suicide (stabbing yourself with a giant key), child abuse (Ven being abused by MX), manslaughter (Sora pretty much enthusiastic about killing the Organization), genocide (the destruction of entire worlds), murder (MX stabbing ME), torture (MX torturing Ven with the Heartless; whatever the Apprentices did during their experiments with whoever ended up in those cells under RG)...and I could keep going...I'll start talking about libel, human trafficking, and kidnapping.
Nomura has no qualms about dark themes. I'm sure if he cared about parents enough, there would be patricide...and technically there is with Terra trying to defeat Master Eraqus.
This needs to be a scenario in BBSv2. I can't believe they kept this for a novel, where half the things in there aren't canon. It's such a shame, really.
Now I'm left wondering, since they had such amazing ideas for this game, why they didn't make it two disc or keep it on the PS3.
I'm pretty sure somebody smart at SE was like "Rework the story so it can be as basic as possible"
If this was in the games i might consider vanitas more then pointless filler.
to bad canon wise he is.
He is filler, but at the same time he isn't. I think his existence was to show that there can be beings of Pure Darkness and that there aren't just Nobodies and Heartless out there in the universe.
you can see from early trailers, the story was a bit different. It was going to end the same way but the journey would have changed.
Finding out about Vanitas' past could have come from more Flashbacks from MX or the ever wise Yen Sid.
The information in the game sort of links with this, which shows that they had this planned. Something in development changed this, whether it be hardware issues or lack of space(which they say is grately smaller than what can fit onto the disc).
I still feel really sad when I look at earlier trailers and then I look at what we got.
The UMD had enough room for one more world and some cutscenes, actually....if I remember correctly. Easily they could have fit in more story and longer world gameplay.
Tomoco Kanemaki(he writes the novels) should help write the story for KH. The series' story would probably be better. If the novels really are canon though, I really pity Vanitas.
She was a scenario writer in Days. And the novels are partial canon. The new information you gain from it can be considered canon if you wish, but since only one audience gets to read them (the Japanese and those who can read Japanese and the lucky people like us who find these translations) it isn't all that fair to make it legit canon.
An example would be from the KH2 novels where Namine hints at the fact Axel is a Somebody again. She tells that when a Heartless and Nobody are destroyed, the Somebody is formed again...and she said something about maybe Axel can be met again.
I believe this information was said before Nomura said it in an interview, and waaaay before it was confirmed in Re:coded that Heartless destroyed + Nobody destroyed = Somebody.
lol.
She was a scenario writer for one of the games.
Days.
Yeah...and that was pretty bad. But so was Watanabe...and it was still bad.
I think if Kanemaki was allowed the freedom she is with the novels with close supervision from Nomura, a really good story could be made for a future Kingdom Hearts game.
And then again, I think her style is meant more for novels...
