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But I'll have to say that your accusations about FFVII's aspects as the worst in the series are a little bit off.
That's what "IMO" is for, Billabong.

Why was it so popular? Because people thought it was good. (although it's overrated, it's still quite popular and a good game anyways.)
It's not a bad game, it's good, but it doesn't compare to other FF's in my opinion. That cow is over-milked.
And DoC looks.. bad.
The only good thing I've seen in DoC so far is the recent scans of Yuffie :p Finally, an improvement in the character.

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I actually would not mind seeing a spin-off of Final Fantasy 6 or better yet, Final Fantasy 9. But then again, I'll probably regret saying this when the time comes.

FF9 is the most underrated of all games. I would love to see something else for it, the story, characters and the music far exceeds FFVII's (IMO). But I'm picky against sequels, too. Most of them don't live up to the originals.
 

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MegaFlare said:
FF9 is the most underrated of all games. I would love to see something else for it, the story, characters and the music far exceeds FFVII's (IMO). But I'm picky against sequels, too. Most of them don't live up to the originals.

FFIX wasn't GREAT but I can't say it was bad. I mean, it should've been another one of the sprite FF games. Really. o.o

I found little purpose of having this childlike game to be 3D. But I can't say it's a bad game. I liked...uh...the...uh...stor--.......uh...I...liked the game... >,>

FFVIIAC is a great spin-off of FFVII. It's not so bad. DoC I can understand is being overdone but I can't blame S-E for being money loving.
 

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MegaFlare said:
FF9 is the most underrated of all games. I would love to see something else for it, the story, characters and the music far exceeds FFVII's (IMO). But I'm picky against sequels, too. Most of them don't live up to the originals.

So very true. The fact is, initially I did not think much of Final Fantasy 9. And then I actually played through it and I realized "Holy.... This game is awesome!" In fact, I'd say it tied, if not beat, FFVII in greatness. Unfortunately, I do not believe that half the people who've actually played FFVII have actually played through FF9 once (or twice) and actually appreciated it (But hey, what do I know?)
 

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(But hey, what do I know?)


Yes, what DO you know? ^-^

Just kidding but I have to say that I play FFIX. I liked it better than FFVIII...at least...and of course is better than FFX2.

FFIX was good...not GREAT though. FFVII was great, not perfect though. There will never be a perfect Final Fantasy. Great will be the peak.
 

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FFIX wasn't GREAT but I can't say it was bad. I mean, it should've been another one of the sprite FF games. Really. o.o

I found little purpose of having this childlike game to be 3D. But I can't say it's a bad game. I liked...uh...the...uh...stor--.......uh...I...liked the game... >,>

A sprite game? Childish? I think not. How does a childish game deserve to be sprited?

And FFIX was an awesome game. Far better than FFVII, IMO.

Back to the compilations though, FFVII does not need or deserve this much attention. I'm sure it was a great game when it came out, and all the fanboys loved it, but now, it's mediocre. Story is bland, characters suck, battle system is simple and boring. FF:AC wasn't even called for. Sure, the ending of the game sucked balls, but it AC didn't explain the ending. The ending took place about 498 years after AC, so there is no relevance there.

Like squalleonheart said, Vincent doesn't need his own game, he's mysterious, and he should stay that way. I'd rather not know too much about him, that's what made him my favourite out of all the characters (but he doesn't compare to most other FF characters).

~*|SPOILER|*~...sorta...
BTW, squalleonheart, I think it was Hojo that 'played around' with Vincent. He did experiments on him, so he knew if could do it to his son (Sephiroth. Hojo and Lucrecia got together right before Vincent proposed), and if he'd live. At least, that's what I got from the game.
 
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So very true. The fact is, initially I did not think much of Final Fantasy 9. And then I actually played through it and I realized "Holy.... This game is awesome!"

Most people who don't like it haven't played it, because the characters don't look as "realistic" as the other Final Fantasy characters. Which is stupid, because if I wanted to judge characters by appearance, I would take out my lego collection rather than play FFVII.

Take shortyguwhatever, he said "FF9 iz gayYYy" in some thread in KH2, reason? He doesn't like it. And I'm willing to bet he never played. it ^_^

In fact, I'd say it tied, if not beat, FFVII in greatness.

FF9 beats FFVII in a Final Fantasy game, IMO. The music of FFVII around the various places in the game was nothing compared to the music in FF9. I loved Aerith's theme, Tifa's, and One Winged Angel, but the rest of the music irritated me, whereas all the music of FF9 was enjoyable, IMO.

The characters, story, music, everything +.

FFIX wasn't GREAT but I can't say it was bad. I mean, it should've been another one of the sprite FF games. Really. o.o I found little purpose of having this childlike game to be 3D. But I can't say it's a bad game. I liked...uh...the...uh...stor--.......uh...I...liked the game... >,>

Doesn't surprise me you think that :p I liked the story.
 

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I don't really have a problem with any of the add-ons to FF7. I am looking forward to getting Advent Children, Crisis Core, and Dirge of Cerberus. I like to see what else can be done with the story and see how it expands. It might be good and it might be bad, but I want to see it done either way. It would be cool to see the old FF7 crew come back again. It definately isn't the best FF in the series IMO, but it still was good and I wouldn't mind a sequel. FF8 and 9 deserve a movie and sequels more than 7 does though, IMO.
 

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A sprite game? Childish? I think not. How does a childish game deserve to be sprited?

And FFIX was an awesome game. Far better than FFVII, IMO.

Back to the compilations though, FFVII does not need or deserve this much attention. I'm sure it was a great game when it came out, and all the fanboys loved it, but now, it's mediocre. Story is bland, characters suck, battle system is simple and boring. FF:AC wasn't even called for. Sure, the ending of the game sucked balls, but it AC didn't explain the ending. The ending took place about 498 years after AC, so there is no relevance there..

Eh, too many people on these forums (in particular) say FFVII isn't their favorite. Go to my anime club and other forums, it's rated that FFVII is the best FF game...at least, that's what majority of the FF players think o_O

God, too many people on these forums have such dislike towards FFVII and it's kind of annoying to hear complaints. Like crying over spilled milk. It happened. Get over it.

I might as well not talk about FFVII on this site anymore because so many of you sound the same. It's like listening to the same person on different accounts. Literally.
 

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FF8 and 9 deserve a movie and sequels more than 7 does though, IMO.
Ever since FFX-2, people have been wanting sequels and prequels to all the FF games. Then, when AC was announced, everybody wanted sequels, prequels and movies to the games. Damn Sq-E for starting such a useless, stupid idea/fad.

The great thing about FF games, is that they are perfect on their own! The stories begin, the stories get complicted, climax and end. It's what we all have come to love about FF stories. None of them needed sequels. None of them needed prequels, none of them needed spin-offs, and most certainly not movies.

IMO, Sq-E should just immediately stop with all this money-milking of their great games which they start to butcher, slowing and painfully, and just stick to making new ones.

NOTE: Remakes are fine once a game becomes way to out of date ( ie anything from FFVI and before).

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Eh, too many people on these forums (in particular) say FFVII isn't their favorite. Go to my anime club and other forums, it's rated that FFVII is the best FFVII...at least, that's what majority of the FF players think o_O
Could mean one of two things.
1. The people on your other forums are all fanboys that started out with the almighty FFVII and want everything like that, but don't realize how great the other FF's are.
2. You are seeing just a small, opinion from people on these forums. So far, it's been about the same 6 people in this thread. There are many FFVII fans, just not posting here.
 
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Eh, too many people on these forums (in particular) say FFVII isn't their favorite. Go to anime club and other forums, it's rated that FFVII is the best FFVII...at least, that's what majority of the FF players think o_O

It's not that we don't believe you, do you expect us to go to other forums just to see that? We'll come back with the same opinion as before, that it's not the best Final Fantasy in our opinion. I realize most people simply won't accept that it's not the greatest game ever made.

God, too many people on these forums have such dislike towards FFVII and it's kind of annoying to hear complaints. Like crying over spilled milk. It happened. Get over it.

You brought it up by making this thread ^_^ And I'm not trying to show dislike to FFVII, I like the game. It's just not as great as other FF's, IMO, and is over-milked for it's worth.
 

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1. The people on your other forums are all fanboys that started out with the almighty FFVII and want everything like that, but don't realize how great the other FF's are.
No, I know three people (personally) from other FF sites. They've played them all. They know even more FF trivia than I do o_O. That says a lot. Most people on the site LOVE FFVII the most because it brought FF into 3D realm. It was just terrific. I have to say that. And they all say FFVII is great. One says FFVII was good the way it is but he drooled when he saw FFVII. (I saw a picture -_-)

2. You are seeing just a small, opinion from people on these forums. So far, it's been about the same 6 people in this thread. There are many FFVII fans, just not posting here.

You don't think I know that? o_O

I've been on this site for a while now. More than 6 people on KHforums think that there are better FF games than FFVII. I love FFVII. I mean, don't think I'm being stubborn about FFVII. I mean, I love the sprite games as well. My top five (games) are
1) FFVII
2) FFVI
3) FFX
4) FFI
5) FFIX

Graphic critics out there can be so judgemental. I like FF games for their story. Mostly for their story. So few KHforum users think actually have the same admiration for FFVII



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It's not that we don't believe you, do you expect us to go to other forums just to see that? We'll come back with the same opinion as before, that it's not the best Final Fantasy in our opinion. I realize most people simply won't accept that it's not the greatest game ever made.

Not the greatest game ever o.o. KH is. o_O

Really, I love FFVII but it isn't the best game. I don't like it because all these compilations came out. I like it because it was my first FF game. I guess for personal reasons then? >.<

I can't really give you my other forum site because I sound like a Jerkass there. So, I want to spare the embarrassment.

You brought it up by making this thread ^_^ And I'm not trying to show dislike to FFVII, I like the game. It's just not as great as other FF's, IMO, and is over-milked for it's worth.

Sigh...Well, at least it's a good game.

Well, I guess KHforums has more individuality than the people on my other FF site.
 

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Ever since FFX-2, people have been wanting sequels and prequels to all the FF games. Then, when AC was announced, everybody wanted sequels, prequels and movies to the games. Damn Sq-E for starting such a useless, stupid idea/fad.

The great thing about FF games, is that they are perfect on their own! The stories begin, the stories get complicted, climax and end. It's what we all have come to love about FF stories. None of them needed sequels. None of them needed prequels, none of them needed spin-offs, and most certainly not movies.

IMO, Sq-E should just immediately stop with all this money-milking of their great games which they start to butcher, slowing and painfully, and just stick to making new ones.

I like sequels just as much as new games, so I don't really mind if they make sequels or new games. The FF games are perfect as they are and they really don't need sequels or anything, but that doesn't mean people would'nt want to see what happens in the future of the games that we loved so much. I also don't think that they should keep making sequels for all the FF's either, I just think the other FF's deserved it more than FF7 did. After the whole compilaton they should indeed stick to just making new games, I would like to see new franchises, characters, and stories that S-E can come out with.
 

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No, I know three people (personally) from other FF sites. They've played them all. They know even more FF trivia than I do o_O. That says a lot. Most people on the site LOVE FFVII the most because it brought FF into 3D realm. It was just terrific. I have to say that. And they all say FFVII is great. One says FFVII was good the way it is but he drooled when he saw FFVII. (I saw a picture -_-)

That wasn't exactly a serious comment. I didn't mean fanboys as in "OMG leik FFVII r0x0rz1@311obn1@1!!!!" I just meant that they all happened to be FFVII fans, big ones.

You don't think I know that? o_O

Then you didn't really need to make this thread. If you knew you were seeing posts by the just a few people over and over saying that they don't like the compilation, then this thread serves no purpose.

And video games are about the content, not the looks. People that judge by graphics annoy me. They say a game sucks because it looks like crap. Obviously they are too stuck-up in the times to go back and play some classics.
 

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In truth Final Fantasy 7 is popular, but because it is the greatest FF? I think not. The original history is simple, it is the first Final Fantasy for the playstation/out of 3d area. Not only did it appeal to the hardcore RPG'ers, finally getting to see their final fantasy's in 3d, most Final Fantasy Players started off in 7, when they picked up their playstations, went to the store and saw this game..

"OOOh, that guy has a big sword. OOOO you get to be a terrorist!"

Afterwards, everyone expected everything to be like FF7. =O Thank god not!

FF9 is indeed the PWN'er of FF7 >.< Heartless is right, FF7 is the most popular, but that doesnt come close to determining if its a good game.
 

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That wasn't exactly a serious comment. I didn't mean fanboys as in "OMG leik FFVII r0x0rz1@311obn1@1!!!!" I just meant that they all happened to be FFVII fans, big ones.

Okie...(can't dislifer your "lingo" >.<)

Then you didn't really need to make this thread. If you knew you were seeing posts by the just a few people over and over saying that they don't like the compilation, then this thread serves no purpose.

The first FFVII-bashing quote I heard was a month after I signed up. I've been hearing them a lot and I finally decided to make this thread. But, what's the point? I didn't expect to change opinions anyways. Just trying to say that too many people complain about the compilation.

And video games are about the content, not the looks. People that judge by graphics annoy me. They say a game sucks because it looks like crap. Obviously they are too stuck-up in the times to go back and play some classics.

True true. At least you support my opinion. Well, I like FFVII for so many personal reasons but I can't say that graphics is what makes it my favorite FF game of all.
 

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Heartless1990 said:
I found little purpose of having this childlike game to be 3D.
My immaturity alarm is going crazy. FFIX is not "childlike", nor is it childish. Being in 3D is not a priviliege.
There's this "gap" in the maturing process where everyone thinks everything has to be dark, brooding and bloody to be cool/interesting. I know, I've been through it myself. It's exactly the same as saying the Legend of Zelda: the Wind Waker sucks.
I'm sorry, but FFIX and FFVI beat VII to hell and back- and IX is childish and VI is in 2D.

Meh, didn't mean to get that upset, but one does not bash FFIX without a just cause in my presence. And, as I'm sure you've found, there are very few acceptable causes when it comes to IX.

FFVII's popularity is just a product of the PSX Generation. Some played their first RPG, and it is common knowledge everyone is biased in favor of the first RPG they ever played. It was the first FF in 3D, which made some of the old fans go "zOMG".
Looking at FFVII objectively, the story is 90% hippie save-the-planet drivel, the remaining 10% is some sort of nearly non-existent vendetta between Cloud and Sephiroth, a villain who suffers from a severe lack of personality.

How people can take FFVII's marshmallows-on-sticks characters seriously, but not FFIX' artistic flair, I'll never understand.[/ramble]
 

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My immaturity alarm is going crazy. FFIX is not "childlike", nor is it childish. Being in 3D is not a priviliege

I really should've paraphrased. I meant to say that FFIX felt like a step back on the FF growth. I mean, it kind of felt that FFIX should've been the true FFVII and FFVII should be VIII and VII should be...etc.

Just, it seemed to have the environment of the truly older FF games. Felt too...childish at times as well.
 
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I love you Lord Mune.

And with Monkeybutt, I agree that FF9 pwns FFVII in every way possible. FFVII is the only FF game where I didn't like all the characters except for a few. They lacked any background and good development. The opening of FFVII wasn't impressive compared to other Final Fantasys (niether was the ending), and the music was irritating excluding a few songs. The behaviors of the characters got old quick. FFVII's story had far too many twists than appropriate. I liked the game, believe it or not, but the other Final Fantasys far surpass it IMO, especially FF9.
 

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Heartless1990 said:
I really should've paraphrased. I meant to say that FFIX felt like a step back on the FF growth. I mean, it kind of felt that FFIX should've been the true FFVII and FFVII should be VIII and VII should be...etc.

Just, it seemed to have the environment of the truly older FF games. Felt too...childish at times as well.
Ah, but there's the problem. From the instant FF left its cradle of "bash the monsters save the princess" gameplay, it has not changed one bit. They're all the same, fundamentally. FFIX is as much a step forward as FFVII is a step back. Do not confuse sci-fi environments and streamlining for the mainstream with "progress".

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I love you too, Flare. :3
 

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I agree that FF9 pwns FFVII in every way possible.

:falls off his chair:

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Oh, who am I kidding? I can't win against you guys. I know you people at this site keep thinking the same thing. >.< You all have one mind -_-
 
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