Theory on the black box

[WastedPenguin]

There is probably an abundant number of theories about it on here but I thought I would just add my 2 cents to it. Here it goes.

So the box happens to have 13 locks.

And each lock represents every canonical game in the series.

To make more sense of this, let's assume that the locks only open once a certain event triggers it, and those events are what happens at the ending of each game.

So far, and without counting the remakes and the Back Cover movie, we have 12 games in the series which are canon and which have major events at the ending (UX and DR will definitely have one).

And what if the 13th game (which is probably the warm-up for KH4) is the game whose events at the ending opens the box?

If this is true, then that would mean the box plays a major role in KH4 (as expected) and narratively, it would explain why Nomura decided to include it

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in that post credits scene of KH3.

I believe it contains a Pandoras Box kind of thing. Like once it opens, chaos is unleashed and this would also be a major plotpoint in KH4 and beyond.

 

[Face My Fears]

That's an interesting theory. I didn't even realize the box had 13 locks/latches on it. Although I don't think the box is actually locked though, because I believe the Master of Masters told Luxu not to look at the contents or to open it - which basically says that Luxu could open it at any time, if he wanted. Also, if it was going to unleash chaos onto the world, then MoM told Luxu that and he's OK with opening it. Wouldn't he have had a different reaction in the Back Cover film?

If there needed to be 13 events to open it, what would they be? I can't see Roxas killing Xion or fighting Riku being one. I would like to see lesser known or discussed events being key to opening the locks, like maybe something that happened in Days that we weren't aware of (like Xemnas doing something).

But now that you bring up the number of locks on there, I kind of saw it as the front 7 being for the Foretellers with the big middle one being the Master of Masters. The sides have 3 each and then there's the big logo on the top, so that's 7 again.

Did we ever see the back of the box?

 

[Xickin]

I've always maintained my crackpot theory of it being the container for the device that's holding all the lost Keyblade wielders (like our Player) so that MoM can have an instant army and/or Keyblade War when the time comes (assuming he needs the X-Blade for some reason [to fight darkness?]).

 

[Sign]

Reminds me of Type-0, but those were similar events acting as the trigger as opposed to different ones.

 

[Kokoko253]

I always assumed that the box has 20 locks, 7-7 on the longer sides, and 3-3 on the shorter ones, and that it's connected to the 20 pieces of the χ-blade. But since we never saw all sides, and 13 is Nomura's favourite number (and coincidentally also the number of hours each day he spends thinking on how to confuse KH fans), this could be the correct number of locks.

On the theory, what if the events are tied to hearts, or specific events that happened to hearts? Like, Kairi's heart finding refuge in Sora's heart, Sora's heart leaving his body, Roxas gaining a heart, Xehanort splitting his heart, Riku reclaiming his heart, Ventus shattering his heart, etc. If specific, rare events are needed to open the locks, you need a lot of manipulation, and maybe helping out a guy whose actions will result in a lot of damaged hearts is in your intrest.

 

[Rainclouds]

MoM's real keyblade or heart.
The real Kingdom Hearts, or another version of it.
A great amount of light or darkness.
The X-Blade, or another version of it.

 

[the red monster]

It's clearly nomura.

jokes aside, my theory that one of the darknesses is inside, the box so will be able to summon the others when he'll want to forge the X-blade and foretellers acting as light.

 

[Deleted member 252753]

we ever see the back of the box?

We do see the back of the box in the epilogue of KH3 and indeed there aren't locks on the back, just two hinges.


I thought that maybe the 13 locks were connected with the 13 keys forged in the Keyblade Graveyard by the clash of 7 lights and 13 darknesses but I don't know. I like the OP's idea anyway.

 

[Idreamaboutcats]

Wasn’t there some hints in the game how whatever it actually was is something similar to the Pandora’s box and the dead man’s chest? It contains “hope” in it or something?

I can’t remember the exact scenes and words since it’s been a year but something along those lines…

There’s been a lot of theories bouncing around like how it’s actually a black box as we understand it being a recorder/server for important information, or the possible things inside it like a heart, a copy of the BoP, Sora sleeping in it, data or projection for a new worldline after the current one ends, nothing because MoM is baiting them with red herring, etc.

 

[Face My Fears]

Wasn’t there some hints in the game how whatever it actually was is something similar to the Pandora’s box and the dead man’s chest? It contains “hope” in it or something?

I can’t remember the exact scenes and words since it’s been a year but something along those lines…

There’s been a lot of theories bouncing around like how it’s actually a black box as we understand it being a recorder/server for important information, or the possible things inside it like a heart, a copy of the BoP, Sora sleeping in it, data or projection for a new worldline after the current one ends, nothing because MoM is baiting them with red herring, etc.

I can't remember if its contents were described to be "hope", but it's been a while since I played KH3 and the Black Box scenes were very rare and few in the game anyway.

I do remember when MoM told Luxu what was in it, Luxu's response was something like "but why?"

 

[Absent]

Yes I wasted 5 minutes doing this.

 

[Idreamaboutcats]

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Yes I wasted 5 minutes doing this.

It has a secret compartment with an embarrassing snapshot of Aced at last year’s Christmas party!

 

[Ballad of Caius]

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Yes I wasted 5 minutes doing this.

I'm not having a hard time seeing the MoM pulling this. Sora opens the box, there's a string, the MoM tells him to pull it, and from below a mirror comes.

"That's it, Sora. You're my secret weapon!" - MoM

I can't remember if its contents were described to be "hope", but it's been a while since I played KH3 and the Black Box scenes were very rare and few in the game anyway.

I do remember when MoM told Luxu what was in it, Luxu's response was something like "but why?"

LuXigbar sent everyone on a wild goose chase over the Box. I think that it's possible that Luxu was the one that told Maleficent about the Box and to Xemnas as well to send everyone to look for it. Xemnas was the one that told either Luxord or Vexen that the Box contains "hope".

What I wonder is why did Luxu send everyone to look for it, when he knew where it was?

And if we're to use KH3 as any sort of clue as to what the box could contain, with Davy Jones' heart being inside a box and Xemnas thinking it's "hope", maybe it's a heart that gives hope?

 

[Deleted member 252753]

LuXigbar sent everyone on a wild goose chase over the Box. I think that it's possible that Luxu was the one that told Maleficent about the Box and to Xemnas as well to send everyone to look for it. Xemnas was the one that told either Luxord or Vexen that the Box contains "hope".

What I wonder is why did Luxu send everyone to look for it, when he knew where it was?

And if we're to use KH3 as any sort of clue as to what the box could contain, with Davy Jones' heart being inside a box and Xemnas thinking it's "hope", maybe it's a heart that gives hope?

Sorry, I don't think you're right about Xemnas being the one to tell Luxord that the box contains 'hope'. Xigbar was the one who told Luxord to look for the Box and in ReMind Luxord tricks Xigbar into pretending that Xemnas issued the order but Luxord knows that isn't true and the whole thing was Xigbar's idea. So it was most likely Xigbar himself who told Luxord that the Box contains hope.

 

[MATGSY]

Inside it is a PS5 that didn't get scalped, that's why it's so special.

 

[Xickin]

I've also heard that the Black Box might contain MoM's real body, and that his current figure is like Ansem SoD so that he can travel through time (and I guess realities) when he needs to, but the box is there for when he needs to come back.

 

[Deleted member 252753]

I've also heard that the Black Box might contain MoM's real body, and that his current figure is like Ansem SoD so that he can travel through time (and I guess realities) when he needs to, but the box is there for when he needs to come back.

I am not keen on that one because with all the stuff about replicas and vessels in KH3 the idea of the MoM needing to preserve his body seems kind of redundant to me.

 

[Xickin]

I am not keen on that one because with all the stuff about replicas and vessels in KH3 the idea of the MoM needing to preserve his body seems kind of redundant to me.

I'm not too into it either. I just heard it from another source and thought I'd throw it out there.

 

[KingdomKurdistan]

I sincerely hope the box is empty.

 

[Ballad of Caius]

I sincerely hope the box is empty.

Your content is in another castle/wordline.