When playing over KH2FM+, Nomura discovered a secret boss he did not tell his staff to make. He then used it to his advantage saying that the being known as the Lingering Sentiment wasn’t canon, but only his words that were relevant to Terra. Later, Nomura decided the keep the fight non-canon, but make the Lingering Sentiment itself canon. The only thing Nomura truly told us about Sentiments is that as a whole, they are final thoughts and emotions of a person. However, what relevance does that give us? Well, that is what this thread is about. I’m going to decode the mystery of the Sentiments, or at least try. In fact, because of the Eraqus Armor you fight in the Mirage Area in BBSFM, I’m almost sure about this theory. I might also try and fit connections that could have resulted of the current Sentiments we already know about, and one other possible Sentiment. So, let’s kick off this theory with our prior knowledge first.
First of all, this is what we know for sure about the Sentiments.
· Embody the final thoughts and emotions of a person
· Seem to lack shells of their own, so they inhabit other objects (only armor was shown so far)
· Have the ability to wield a Keyblade
· Don’t have a Heart
Now, which of these things seems to contradict the behavior of the Sentiments? Well, that’s actually quite easy. The fact that they don’t have a Heart seems to be unbelievable, doesn’t it? You should have a Heart to be able to wield a Keyblade and have true emotions. How is that even possible? Well, let us first look at the Lingering Sentiment. As we know, Xehanort stabbed himself with his own Keyblade and entered Terra’s body, then dominated Terra’s Heart and took over. Anything ring a bell yet? Terra harbors Eraqus in his Heart, and there is an Armored Eraqus we get to fight in the Mirage Arena. As some people believe, Vanitas is hiding within Riku’s Heart, and we get to fight the Vanitas Sentiment as an optional boss in BBS. Although the Vanitas Sentiment isn’t canon, that was the way the Lingering Sentiment started out. With Nomura, you never know.
The point is that all of these Sentiments are of people whose Heart laid within another Heart, and they were most likely all resilient of it to an extent. So, what if those people’s Hearts weren’t truly lost, and an imprint of said Heart’s essence got into another object? What if those Sentiments were the projection of the Heart’s will and its power? It’s not that illogical, really. Riku somehow could project his image out of Ansem SoD. If you don’t believe me, then here is the proof.
If you look from 18:25 to 18:52, clearly you should be able to see that Riku was capable of projecting his Heart from Ansem SoD to save Kairi, Donald, and Goofy. So, why can’t other people project their Heart when they are devoured by another Heart? So, it should make perfect sense that the Heart of the consumed could be projected and use another object as a vessel. Thus, projecting the Heart’s essence should be able to give the Sentiments emotions and a Keyblade as well. So, in a nutshell, Sentiments are projected imprints of the Heart’s power when it is consumed by another Heart and the person doesn’t want to give up their existence.
Now that we know what a Sentiment is, let’s look at who is a Sentiment, and why they are as such. The Lingering Sentiment isn’t too hard to figure out. Basically, Xehanort consumed Terra’s Heart and Terra was resilient enough to create a Lingering Sentiment based on his hatred for Xehanort. Now, let’s look at some other examples, shall we?
Armor of the Master
As we know, we get to fight an armored version of Eraqus called “Armor of the Master” in BBSFM. The fight isn’t canon because it is in the Mirage Arena, but that doesn’t mean that Eraqus doesn’t have a Sentiment. As we know Terra harbors Eraqus in his Heart. However, from what we know from the Lingering Sentiment, it was resisting Xehanort. As far as we know, Eraqus doesn’t seem to mind being in Terra. However, Terra is in Xehanort’s Heart, and we all know Xehanort is a regular user of darkness. And, since Eraqus hates darkness very much, that makes him resilient enough to create a Lingering Sentiment with his own armor.
Vanitas Sentiment
As we know, the Vanitas Sentiment is currently not canon. However, the Lingering Sentiment wasn’t canon at first either, and if fans care enough, it could be very well canon sometime in the future. Now, none of us even know what happened to Vanitas, the dark half of Ven’s Heart, when the X-Blade was destroyed. However, if the Vanitas Sentiment indeed becomes canon in the future, then we know that Vanitas’ Heart isn’t completely gone. However, where would it go and in whom would it reside? Well, as you might as guessed, I’m jumping on the Riku bandwagon, and it’s for several different reasons.
The first one is kind of obvious, but Riku wears the same suit as Vanitas along with having the same fighting stance. Plus, Nomura loves making connections through appearances. Another example is Kairi’s statement about Riku in KH1.
Normally, I wouldn’t take merit in what such a badly written character says, but she is a Princess of Heart, so she might have been able to sense a gradual change in Riku’s Heart. Once again, I’m not a Kairi fan, and most of you reading this probably don’t like her either. However, there is evidence in her words. In BBS, Terra and Aqua both sense a light coming from Destiny Islands. Terra was the one to notice that this light came from Riku, not Sora. So, it would be logical for Riku’s Heart to change as a result of Vanitas being in there.
However, the true reason that I support this is that since Sora harbored Ven’s Heart in his, Vanitas would obviously want to get as close to Ven as possible. However, Vanitas might have wanted to get into Sora’s Heart to merge with Ventus faster, but Sora’s Heart might have subconsciously kept Vanitas out to protect Ven. So, Vanitas used the next best thing, Sora’s best friend Riku. Now, you’re probably wondering why this would created a Sentiment if Vanitas deliberately entered another’s Heart, correct? Well, just because he entered that Heart willingly doesn’t mean that was the Heart he wanted to be in. Remember, Vanitas wants to reform the X-Blade as soon as possible, so his impatience with being in Riku could have accounted for willingly creating a Sentiment. This impatience with creating the X-Blade is reflected with the Vanitas Sentiment using moves Vanitas could only use as a result of the X-Blade.
Ventus Sentiment (?)
By now, it is pretty much common knowledge that Ventus currently resides in the Heart of Sora. However, I’m just going to point out that Ventus did not create a Sentiment from Sora. Why? Well, unlike all the Hearts that have created Sentiments, Ventus went into Sora willingly. Even the first time when Sora’s newborn Heart offered Ventus to connect his Heart untill his Heart got better; Ventus willingly accepted the help from Sora’s Heart. So, why would Ventus want to fight against someone who is keeping him alive? However, there is another source Ventus could have formed a Sentiment from. That source is Vanitas.
Now, before you start complaining or approving, I’m just going to be blunt and say that it isn’t very likely, but it still can happen. In order to create the X-Blade, Vanitas needed to clash with Ven once their strengths were on par with one another, being that one had a Heart filled with light and the other had a Heart of pure darkness. So, once they were equal in power, Vanitas tried to merge with Ven to create the X-Blade, and it was pretty clear that he wanted to be the dominate personality. However, did one Heart truly dominate the other Heart? Well, from Aqua’s perspective, the X- Blade looks complete and Vanitas is clearly in control. However, if you look and the inner battle between Ventus and Vanitas, you’ll see that the X-Blade is incomplete. In order to have a complete X-Blade, Vanitas and Ven had to merge completely. Vanitas himself even comments on this.
There are a few other characters I consider Sentiments, but there explanations might be quite long, and it has other variables involved, so they deserve their own threads. Please read and review. I’m open to constructive criticism.
I need to add one more thing in here, and it won't let me copy and paste it in here. I was only goin to add one possible, but unlikely Sentiment. However, you are free to critizize what I have right now if you wish. It is pretty much complete.
EDIT: The bug is fixed. You may now pour out your thoughts an critizism.
First of all, this is what we know for sure about the Sentiments.
· Embody the final thoughts and emotions of a person
· Seem to lack shells of their own, so they inhabit other objects (only armor was shown so far)
· Have the ability to wield a Keyblade
· Don’t have a Heart
Now, which of these things seems to contradict the behavior of the Sentiments? Well, that’s actually quite easy. The fact that they don’t have a Heart seems to be unbelievable, doesn’t it? You should have a Heart to be able to wield a Keyblade and have true emotions. How is that even possible? Well, let us first look at the Lingering Sentiment. As we know, Xehanort stabbed himself with his own Keyblade and entered Terra’s body, then dominated Terra’s Heart and took over. Anything ring a bell yet? Terra harbors Eraqus in his Heart, and there is an Armored Eraqus we get to fight in the Mirage Arena. As some people believe, Vanitas is hiding within Riku’s Heart, and we get to fight the Vanitas Sentiment as an optional boss in BBS. Although the Vanitas Sentiment isn’t canon, that was the way the Lingering Sentiment started out. With Nomura, you never know.
The point is that all of these Sentiments are of people whose Heart laid within another Heart, and they were most likely all resilient of it to an extent. So, what if those people’s Hearts weren’t truly lost, and an imprint of said Heart’s essence got into another object? What if those Sentiments were the projection of the Heart’s will and its power? It’s not that illogical, really. Riku somehow could project his image out of Ansem SoD. If you don’t believe me, then here is the proof.
If you look from 18:25 to 18:52, clearly you should be able to see that Riku was capable of projecting his Heart from Ansem SoD to save Kairi, Donald, and Goofy. So, why can’t other people project their Heart when they are devoured by another Heart? So, it should make perfect sense that the Heart of the consumed could be projected and use another object as a vessel. Thus, projecting the Heart’s essence should be able to give the Sentiments emotions and a Keyblade as well. So, in a nutshell, Sentiments are projected imprints of the Heart’s power when it is consumed by another Heart and the person doesn’t want to give up their existence.
Now that we know what a Sentiment is, let’s look at who is a Sentiment, and why they are as such. The Lingering Sentiment isn’t too hard to figure out. Basically, Xehanort consumed Terra’s Heart and Terra was resilient enough to create a Lingering Sentiment based on his hatred for Xehanort. Now, let’s look at some other examples, shall we?
Armor of the Master
As we know, we get to fight an armored version of Eraqus called “Armor of the Master” in BBSFM. The fight isn’t canon because it is in the Mirage Arena, but that doesn’t mean that Eraqus doesn’t have a Sentiment. As we know Terra harbors Eraqus in his Heart. However, from what we know from the Lingering Sentiment, it was resisting Xehanort. As far as we know, Eraqus doesn’t seem to mind being in Terra. However, Terra is in Xehanort’s Heart, and we all know Xehanort is a regular user of darkness. And, since Eraqus hates darkness very much, that makes him resilient enough to create a Lingering Sentiment with his own armor.
Vanitas Sentiment
As we know, the Vanitas Sentiment is currently not canon. However, the Lingering Sentiment wasn’t canon at first either, and if fans care enough, it could be very well canon sometime in the future. Now, none of us even know what happened to Vanitas, the dark half of Ven’s Heart, when the X-Blade was destroyed. However, if the Vanitas Sentiment indeed becomes canon in the future, then we know that Vanitas’ Heart isn’t completely gone. However, where would it go and in whom would it reside? Well, as you might as guessed, I’m jumping on the Riku bandwagon, and it’s for several different reasons.
The first one is kind of obvious, but Riku wears the same suit as Vanitas along with having the same fighting stance. Plus, Nomura loves making connections through appearances. Another example is Kairi’s statement about Riku in KH1.
Kairi said:
Normally, I wouldn’t take merit in what such a badly written character says, but she is a Princess of Heart, so she might have been able to sense a gradual change in Riku’s Heart. Once again, I’m not a Kairi fan, and most of you reading this probably don’t like her either. However, there is evidence in her words. In BBS, Terra and Aqua both sense a light coming from Destiny Islands. Terra was the one to notice that this light came from Riku, not Sora. So, it would be logical for Riku’s Heart to change as a result of Vanitas being in there.
However, the true reason that I support this is that since Sora harbored Ven’s Heart in his, Vanitas would obviously want to get as close to Ven as possible. However, Vanitas might have wanted to get into Sora’s Heart to merge with Ventus faster, but Sora’s Heart might have subconsciously kept Vanitas out to protect Ven. So, Vanitas used the next best thing, Sora’s best friend Riku. Now, you’re probably wondering why this would created a Sentiment if Vanitas deliberately entered another’s Heart, correct? Well, just because he entered that Heart willingly doesn’t mean that was the Heart he wanted to be in. Remember, Vanitas wants to reform the X-Blade as soon as possible, so his impatience with being in Riku could have accounted for willingly creating a Sentiment. This impatience with creating the X-Blade is reflected with the Vanitas Sentiment using moves Vanitas could only use as a result of the X-Blade.
Ventus Sentiment (?)
By now, it is pretty much common knowledge that Ventus currently resides in the Heart of Sora. However, I’m just going to point out that Ventus did not create a Sentiment from Sora. Why? Well, unlike all the Hearts that have created Sentiments, Ventus went into Sora willingly. Even the first time when Sora’s newborn Heart offered Ventus to connect his Heart untill his Heart got better; Ventus willingly accepted the help from Sora’s Heart. So, why would Ventus want to fight against someone who is keeping him alive? However, there is another source Ventus could have formed a Sentiment from. That source is Vanitas.
Now, before you start complaining or approving, I’m just going to be blunt and say that it isn’t very likely, but it still can happen. In order to create the X-Blade, Vanitas needed to clash with Ven once their strengths were on par with one another, being that one had a Heart filled with light and the other had a Heart of pure darkness. So, once they were equal in power, Vanitas tried to merge with Ven to create the X-Blade, and it was pretty clear that he wanted to be the dominate personality. However, did one Heart truly dominate the other Heart? Well, from Aqua’s perspective, the X- Blade looks complete and Vanitas is clearly in control. However, if you look and the inner battle between Ventus and Vanitas, you’ll see that the X-Blade is incomplete. In order to have a complete X-Blade, Vanitas and Ven had to merge completely. Vanitas himself even comments on this.
However, Ventus clearly rejected the idea, knowing that along with the X-Blade, both his and Vanitas’ Hearts would get destroyed. Luckily for Ventus, he managed to survive through Sora, although Ventus’ Heart did not get away unscathed. That is why it is highly unlikely that Ventus created a Sentiment. However, even though Terra created one, Terra was still fighting Xehanort for control, despite his Heart being consumed by Xehanort’s. So, there is still a possibility that Ventus created a Sentiment because of Vanitas.Vanitas said:
There are a few other characters I consider Sentiments, but there explanations might be quite long, and it has other variables involved, so they deserve their own threads. Please read and review. I’m open to constructive criticism.
I need to add one more thing in here, and it won't let me copy and paste it in here. I was only goin to add one possible, but unlikely Sentiment. However, you are free to critizize what I have right now if you wish. It is pretty much complete.
EDIT: The bug is fixed. You may now pour out your thoughts an critizism.
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