The Unbirth Symbol

[Ophan]

The resemblance of the unbirth symbol is a trial
of different appearances to many, many people.
we of course have the infamous Heartless symbol

and to my knowledge, the cross represents the
symbolization of captivating the heart, while the
black merely shows it's enveloped with darkness.
Then we also have the Nobody symbol

which complements the heartless symbol
and last we have the Unbirth Symbol with
a meaning that is unclear.

perhaps no one looks hard enough within the symbol, but
cut it in half, and you'll get a better view. If you look closely
it is actually two basic Unbirth's antennas surrounding/hugging a heart,
it is speculation, but with observation. I could be wrong of
course, LOL

your thoughts...​

 

[VATs Master]

?

I dont see it either.

He means the bottom half. It looks like two Unbirth heads.

 

[Ophan]

sigh....
here is an Unbirth

cross it's antennas together and it's basically hugging the heart
the antennas create the symbol, the symbol is based off of their
antennas surrounding the heart

 

[advent wolf]

...it does look like two Unbirth heads...but hugging a heart?

 

[Ophan]

not heads...
their antennas

 

[Radon]

sigh....
here is an Unbirth

cross it's antennas together and it's basically hugging the heart
the antennas create the symbol, the symbol is based off of their
antennas surrounding the heart

I see it now. But would it be the unbirths with the horn/trumpet things?

 

[_EX]

He means the bottom half. It looks like two Unbirth heads.

That would be why I didnt see it.

 

[Ophan]

i have no idea about the horn trumpet things?
this is as much as i gathered pondering the
resemblance of the Unbirth Symbol, and my
answer came from the small unbirth's antennas.

just cross, and connect the two

 

[JTD95]

Is it like this?

 

[zillagod]

Is it like this?

It does indeed resemble their antennas, it still doesn't really help figure out more about them unfortunately. However it is a very cool way to get their symbol. I must commend Tetsuya Nomura for this design idea!

 

[Ophan]

precisely,
stick it on top of the head of an unbirth
and "boom!" its antenna.

 

[Ophan]

ok its an antenna... now what?

what more do you want....
all it does is cover the resemblance of the symbol, that factors out all the
deep meaning people are trying to put into it. All it is, is a basic breaking point
to why the Symbol looks like it does, so unless you want to add something,
be my guest

 

[JTD95]

ok its an antenna... now what?

Its just something he notice and wanted to share. not much more

 

[xjeezlouisx]

Dont tell me. Im one of them?

looks like you are one of them....

Its just something he notice and wanted to share. not much more

oh ok well that solves everything...

 

[Ophan]

oh ok well that solves everything...

thanks for joining us, goodbye :v

 

[Shizazzle]

Consider opposites.

Well, Heartless are not much more than hearts.

Nobodies are bodies, and not much else.

So, unless there is a sudden shift in direction (which is always possible), Unbirths would be at least close to the opposite of what their name suggests.

That being said, I can't think of the opposite of what Unbirth proposes.

 

[Ophan]

Re: Consider opposites.

Well, Heartless are not much more than hearts.

Nobodies are bodies, and not much else.

So, unless there is a sudden shift in direction (which is always possible), Unbirths would be at least close to the opposite of what their name suggests.

That being said, I can't think of the opposite of what Unbirth proposes.

wrong thread?

 

[TrueRoxas527]

I think Shizazzle was trying to bring this thread back together before it got too spammy.

But, for the opposite theory.
A Heartless is made up of a heart that's of no use anymore, it was encased by darkness, forming the Heartless.
Now, according to AtW, a Nobody is made of a body AND soul but it's not called a Nosoulandbody. Just a Nobody.I'm not sure how this has much relation to the Unbirths, because if AtW is correct, then there are no more parts of the human to make a new creature, of course they existed before Heartless and Nobodies, so we can only assume that they possess certain things that caused them to eventually evolve into just being Heartless and Nobodies.

Leaving the question: "What is an Unbirth made of?" Well, it can't be all 3, because that makes a human. However, it could be just a body, showing the reason that it's an Unbirth. You need to be born with a soul, and they are Unbriths because they have no soul OR they are called Unbirths because they are only the soul, enraptured in darkness.

Either one would make sense, however if you look at the picture

you can see that it is composed of two BODIES of Unbirths wrapped around the traditional heart, because all these monsters are only created when a heart is consumed by darkness.
So, this supports my conclusion that an Unbirth is a body WITHOUT a soul, since a Nobody has one. It makes sense to me, and the referration I used to the picture proves my theory a bit. Hopefully some of you agree with me.

 

[Pratiko]

I think Shizazzle was trying to bring this thread back together before it got too spammy.

But, for the opposite theory.
A Heartless is made up of a heart that's of no use anymore, it was encased by darkness, forming the Heartless.
Now, according to AtW, a Nobody is made of a body AND soul but it's not called a Nosoulandbody. Just a Nobody.I'm not sure how this has much relation to the Unbirths, because if AtW is correct, then there are no more parts of the human to make a new creature, of course they existed before Heartless and Nobodies, so we can only assume that they possess certain things that caused them to eventually evolve into just being Heartless and Nobodies.

Leaving the question: "What is an Unbirth made of?" Well, it can't be all 3, because that makes a human. However, it could be just a body, showing the reason that it's an Unbirth. You need to be born with a soul, and they are Unbriths because they have no soul OR they are called Unbirths because they are only the soul, enraptured in darkness.

Either one would make sense, however if you look at the picture

you can see that it is composed of two BODIES of Unbirths wrapped around the traditional heart, because all these monsters are only created when a heart is consumed by darkness.
So, this supports my conclusion that an Unbirth is a body WITHOUT a soul, since a Nobody has one. It makes sense to me, and the referration I used to the picture proves my theory a bit. Hopefully some of you agree with me.

You'd like to show proof before doing an assumption as harsh as this one:

an Unbirth is a body WITHOUT a soul, since a Nobody has one

Heartless and Nobodies didn't exist at the time, so, why did you consider them in your "theory"? What makes you think it's just the body from the symbol? It's only 2 antennas btw, hardly. Or, it could be something else, like the Memory Cards of Castle Oblivion.

 

[TrueRoxas527]

You'd like to show proof before doing an assumption as harsh as this one:



Heartless and Nobodies didn't exist at the time, so, why did you consider them in your "theory"? What makes you think it's just the body from the symbol? It's only 2 antennas btw, hardly. Or, it could be something else, like the Memory Cards of Castle Oblivion.

As I may have mentioned, the body without the soul is formed when the encasing around the heart in the symbol is made of, wait for it, 2 Unbrith BODIES. Nothing else. Just two bodies that form a heart when connected. Not even two bodies, just one Unbrith's antenni. (I think I spelled that wrong)
So, that's my proof for the only body theory. I nknow it's a little sketchy but that's what I think anyway. So, you can't flame me just forr thinking how I think, because any theory's as good as mine, some maybe better, but none are yet confirmed. My ideas are based on my assumptions, like yours, so, you don't need to slam my idea like that. I actually thought it was prettty good, because it fits. The relation I put in relating to the Nobodies was basically to clarify that a Nobody is made up of a Soul AND body, so my idea isn't exactly a Nobody.

But who really knows what they are? Your guess is as good as mine.