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It's strange, Ven's heart is in Sora and yet Ven's body didn't vanish. Meanwhile, MX's heart is in Terra and yet MX's body vanished. Hmm...this doesn't make much sense unless there is some light/dark thing going on or that MX wanted his body to vanish? lol XD
MX had no need for his body anymore, Ven did.
 

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Ven's body didn't vanish because he had a heart of pure light. When a heart of pure light leaves the body, the body remains. If not of pure light, the body will vanish (MX, Sora, etc.)
 

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Alright, so those who have pure hearts, won't lose their body when their heart is extracted (Same reason Princess Aurora's body didn't vanish when Maleficent/Terra extracted her heart). That makes sense and clears that up..
 

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Ven's body didn't vanish because he had a heart of pure light. When a heart of pure light leaves the body, the body remains. If not of pure light, the body will vanish (MX, Sora, etc.)

o_O Okay. This really make more sense.. Since Ven has pure heart of light
 
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We don't know if Ven still has a heart of pure light dammit...if he re-absorbed Vanitas after their fight he has his darkness back.

Ven's body didn't vanish because he didn't lost his heart the "normal" way, his connection to Sora and because his heart was injured.
Actually Ven didn't "lose" his heart the literal way at all, as he still had his heart all the way up to the point where Aqua left him in the chamber of waking.
It was just not sensible and not functioning properly anymore because of the deep injury, that's the reason he went comatose.
After Aqua left C.O. to look for Terra Ven's heart finally succumbed fully to the heavy injury and starts to fade, yet then Sora reaches out to him and his heart follows the connection back to Sora's heart.
 

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But how bout those princess of heart? When their hearts are used in making the Heart Unlocker, their bodies didn't vanished..?
 

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Yeah, because 1. their hearts lack any darkness and 2. their hearts were healthy and fully functionable.
Ven's body didn't vanish because he didn't "lose" his heart in the sense of it being removed from the body, but "lose" in the sense of it being so heavily injured it couldn't sustain Ven's life anymore.
Losing his heart for Ven doesn't mean the same as it does for Kairi or the princesses of heart in KH 1, the circumstances are different.
The heart was still there, yet so badly maimed even Yen Sid couldn't sense it anymore.
He specifically says it is as if his heart left him, not that it really did.
Furthermore, Ven could still summon Wayward Wind to open the path to Land of Departure while being carried on Aqua's back, one needs a heart to do that.
 

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Yeah, by the time..during Final Episode.. Ven still has a weak heart..and until Aqua left him in the CO, did his heart directly goes into Sora ?
 

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When Aqua left to search for Terra, Ven's heart finally collapsed fully and he couldn't bear the pain anymore, so his heart started to fade into the darkness.
This great pain and sadness over his state reached Sora (who shed that tear neither he nor Riku could explain).
Sora then reached out and Ven's heart followed the already established connection from four years before back to Sora's heart.

So Ven's heart didn't go directly into Sora, it really started to fade, yet Sora's voice and the light of his heart guided it from its way into the darkness away and into Sora's heart.
Luckily for Ven Sora accepted his plea and let him stay within him. Had Sora declined Ven's heart would have been doomed.
 

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When Aqua left to search for Terra, Ven's heart finally collapsed fully and he couldn't bear the pain anymore, so his heart started to fade into the darkness.
This great pain and sadness over his state reached Sora (who shed that tear neither he nor Riku could explain).
Sora then reached out and Ven's heart followed the already established connection from four years before back to Sora's heart.

So Ven's heart didn't go directly into Sora, it really started to fade, yet Sora's voice and the light of his heart guided it from its way into the darkness away and into Sora's heart.
Luckily for Ven Sora accepted his plea and let him stay within him. Had Sora declined Ven's heart would have been doomed.

So, the ending where it shows Ven's heart went inside Sora is a misrepresentation? lol
 
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