Haha Your undoubtedly wondering when I'll run out at this point I know well I can honestly say that I've made something on about all that I can think of so this may be my last one for a while. =3
Anyway let's get to it! Let's ponder about one of Xehanort's biggest mysteries; how his memories and hearts are divided between his heartless and nobody.
Now unlike the Apprentice who supposedly had amnesia (at least initially) Xehanort's Heartless (Ansem Seeker of Darkness) and Xehanort's Nobody (Xemnas) obviously remembered things.
Xemnas himself being outright stated to have both Terra and MX memories.
But is that the only thing that was divided between them? The Apprentice's heart was actually housing three, Terra the host and rightful owner of the body, Master Xehanort the invader who latched on, and Eraqus who's sought refuge as his body faded.
These three beings in one as well as the theorized fourth personality of the Apprentice born from amnesia is what makes him such a pain in the @$$ mystery in the series contributing to it's overly abundant convolution.
But lets focus on the various components of him and see if we can guess at how he was divided and in order to do that I point to the quotes below taken from various interviews.
It's very obvious that Xemnas, being Xehanort's nobody born through Terra's body+soul, is influenced by Terra and is confirmed to have some, most or all his memories.
Ansem however isn't as clear. Nomura doesn't clarify with him, he proposes one reason but doesn't deny or disclaim the other.
It would make sense either way since Master Xehanort was born and lived on the same islands and as pointed out by Young Xehanort in DDD Ansem was there that day for several reasons other than just claiming another world heart. (seen here: click)
Your likely wondering why that matters well it matters because it shows that Ansem had a multitude of reasons to be at the destiny islands leaving whether he was there because of Terra memories up to complete question.
This is further shown in his behavior and even style of dress after he steals Riku's body. The way he flops his hands around when speaking, the clothes he wears, his speech on darkness, all of it is exact characteristics he takes directly from Master Xehanort.
Basically anything of Terra in Ansem is either not there, inherited solely by Xemnas instead, or so slight and suppressed they don't show.
But this isn't the only curious part take a look at the last line of that last quote again:
Yes that last line right there! Nomura doesn't just point out memories/power are divided but he points out the heart as well!
Things starting to click for you now in terms of direction for the thread?
As mentioned the Apprentice from which Ansem and Xemnas formed had three hearts, three sets of memories, three dormant personalities.
Xemnas is confirmed to have Terra memories while Ansem is left to question.
They are both definitely dominated by Xehanort but Ansem is the one that most closely mirrors Master Xehanort.
Get the jist of it now? Bluntly put perhaps how the three hearts, power and memory was divided was that Ansem inherited MX's heart while Terra's (although still under control from one of MX's seeds splintered off from his own heart) remained in Xemnas albeit mostly dormant or done norted to the extent he's not actually Terra anymore.
Before you cry crazy just take a look at other examples here. We know Xehanort has the power to place seeds of himself in others, that is how the entire basis of his 13 vessels work.
And in turn we have an example of a nobody being born with a dormant heart of a third party inside them. (Roxas carrying Ven's heart)
Taking these examples in mind the idea that Xemnas was carrying a dormant norted-Terra heart isn't to farfetched is it?
Granted this is all just theory to pass the time but I like to make theories on several possibilities, even if I end of with threads holding contradicting ones, and seeing what my fellow members think of said possibilities.
Either way let me hear what you think, seem possible to you?
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On a side note I'm not exactly sure where Eraqus is left in all of this. Unlike the other two Eraqus isn't mentioned as being an influence on Ansem/Xemnas.
It would appear he's mostly if not entirely dormant.
Though not to leave him out I already have two threads on his potential whereabouts if this thread got you thinking:
http://forums.khinsider.com/kingdom-hearts-hd-1-5-remix/192196-xehanorts-guardian.html
http://forums.khinsider.com/birth-sleep/192115-where-eraqus.html
Anyway let's get to it! Let's ponder about one of Xehanort's biggest mysteries; how his memories and hearts are divided between his heartless and nobody.
Now unlike the Apprentice who supposedly had amnesia (at least initially) Xehanort's Heartless (Ansem Seeker of Darkness) and Xehanort's Nobody (Xemnas) obviously remembered things.
Xemnas himself being outright stated to have both Terra and MX memories.
But is that the only thing that was divided between them? The Apprentice's heart was actually housing three, Terra the host and rightful owner of the body, Master Xehanort the invader who latched on, and Eraqus who's sought refuge as his body faded.
These three beings in one as well as the theorized fourth personality of the Apprentice born from amnesia is what makes him such a pain in the @$$ mystery in the series contributing to it's overly abundant convolution.
But lets focus on the various components of him and see if we can guess at how he was divided and in order to do that I point to the quotes below taken from various interviews.
It's very obvious that Xemnas, being Xehanort's nobody born through Terra's body+soul, is influenced by Terra and is confirmed to have some, most or all his memories.
Ansem however isn't as clear. Nomura doesn't clarify with him, he proposes one reason but doesn't deny or disclaim the other.
It would make sense either way since Master Xehanort was born and lived on the same islands and as pointed out by Young Xehanort in DDD Ansem was there that day for several reasons other than just claiming another world heart. (seen here: click)
Your likely wondering why that matters well it matters because it shows that Ansem had a multitude of reasons to be at the destiny islands leaving whether he was there because of Terra memories up to complete question.
This is further shown in his behavior and even style of dress after he steals Riku's body. The way he flops his hands around when speaking, the clothes he wears, his speech on darkness, all of it is exact characteristics he takes directly from Master Xehanort.
Basically anything of Terra in Ansem is either not there, inherited solely by Xemnas instead, or so slight and suppressed they don't show.
But this isn't the only curious part take a look at the last line of that last quote again:
Yes that last line right there! Nomura doesn't just point out memories/power are divided but he points out the heart as well!
Things starting to click for you now in terms of direction for the thread?
As mentioned the Apprentice from which Ansem and Xemnas formed had three hearts, three sets of memories, three dormant personalities.
Xemnas is confirmed to have Terra memories while Ansem is left to question.
They are both definitely dominated by Xehanort but Ansem is the one that most closely mirrors Master Xehanort.
Get the jist of it now? Bluntly put perhaps how the three hearts, power and memory was divided was that Ansem inherited MX's heart while Terra's (although still under control from one of MX's seeds splintered off from his own heart) remained in Xemnas albeit mostly dormant or done norted to the extent he's not actually Terra anymore.
Before you cry crazy just take a look at other examples here. We know Xehanort has the power to place seeds of himself in others, that is how the entire basis of his 13 vessels work.
And in turn we have an example of a nobody being born with a dormant heart of a third party inside them. (Roxas carrying Ven's heart)
Taking these examples in mind the idea that Xemnas was carrying a dormant norted-Terra heart isn't to farfetched is it?
Granted this is all just theory to pass the time but I like to make theories on several possibilities, even if I end of with threads holding contradicting ones, and seeing what my fellow members think of said possibilities.
Either way let me hear what you think, seem possible to you?
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On a side note I'm not exactly sure where Eraqus is left in all of this. Unlike the other two Eraqus isn't mentioned as being an influence on Ansem/Xemnas.
It would appear he's mostly if not entirely dormant.
Though not to leave him out I already have two threads on his potential whereabouts if this thread got you thinking:
http://forums.khinsider.com/kingdom-hearts-hd-1-5-remix/192196-xehanorts-guardian.html
http://forums.khinsider.com/birth-sleep/192115-where-eraqus.html
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