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[Sephiroth0812]

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You're going to love this then. Included with last night's update were new attack cards featuring Terra, Aqua, Ventus and Eraqus!

Haven't had a chance to upload them yet since I'm still stuck at work right now, but a few of the members have posted some up in the Card Sharing thread.

I'll post the rest when I get home later, so check them out if you have the chance! As small as they are, they offer a nice new glimpse of the model and texture improvements of 2.5.

Mind if I drool a little (virtually of course)? *ggg*

While I don't play Chi due to no time for online games and language barrier, I always liked the make up of the cards especially because characters are depicted in new poses on some of them like i.e. two cards where Riku and Roxas strike the same pose, only mirrored.

This adds only more fuel to the fire.
I would say it is safe to assume that Nomura is going for the "history is in danger of repeating itself, but something will cause it to end differently this time"-route with KH III overall, possibly even with the "great darkness" actually arriving for a time, but ultimately will not destroy everything this time but repelled before too much damage is done.

 

[WaveK89]

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It turns out that MX was actually doing the right thing by summoning Kingdom Hearts to bring forth the precious light but ends up screwing it up because it turned out Sora was partially wrong. Kingdom Hearts is light but holds back the great darkness within. I have no idea what I am talking about now, but I still continue to type. /wtf-sarcasm

To be serious, as long as it's not a Digimon storyline where, "We defeated the enemy who was controlled by this enemy, who was controlled by this enemy, who was controlled by this enemy etc..." Granted, Kingdom Hearts has been like trying to figure out who the hell is the real enemy is. Not Riku, not Maleficent, not Marluxia, not Ansem, not Xemnas, oh it was Master Xehanort the whole time, go figure. Of course, we knew it by that time.

 

[Blackdrazon]

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It's possible the book does still exist. Just little pieces of it were being used as cards in the Keyblade War that worked as "Fragments of power" that can turn a novice into a Keyblade expert, so it's not exactly paper or vellum.

If Yen Sid does have the book, you could make the argument that that makes him a Foreteller without being one of the original six. So long as the book still has something to say of the future, he would be Foretelling the future by reading it. I wonder about the book he showed Sora in KH2?

For anyone wondering about chi's storyline, keep in mind that KHI has all the text prior to this update already translated and ready for reading thanks to Goldpanner!

http://www.khinsider.com/kingdom-hearts-x/worlds/special-events
http://www.khinsider.com/kingdom-hearts-x/worlds/dwarf-woodlands
http://www.khinsider.com/kingdom-hearts-x/worlds/wonderland
http://www.khinsider.com/kingdom-hearts-x/worlds/agrabah

 

[Ruran]

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It sounds like my theory about KH3 ending with Xehanort getting just enough power to screw over the universe but not enough that the damage isn't irreversible, via, Sora and co. going around fixing things with light like the children in the story is becoming more and more plausible.

*scuttles away to make "called it" banner*

 

[Zettaflare]

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So the entire climax of KH3 was just spoiled huh? LOL

Oh well. I wonder if the 6th foreteller will appear in KH3(maybe as the final boss), or appear in the next saga as a villain?

 

[Sign]

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Mind if I drool a little (virtually of course)? *ggg*

While I don't play Chi due to no time for online games and language barrier, I always liked the make up of the cards especially because characters are depicted in new poses on some of them like i.e. two cards where Riku and Roxas strike the same pose, only mirrored.

This adds only more fuel to the fire.
I would say it is safe to assume that Nomura is going for the "history is in danger of repeating itself, but something will cause it to end differently this time"-route with KH III overall, possibly even with the "great darkness" actually arriving for a time, but ultimately will not destroy everything this time but repelled before too much damage is done.

And here you go!

Edit: actually i'm just going to copy/paste this because idc bbs <3

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[Sign]

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[Nayru's Love]

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Yet another example of numerical symbolism, I think.

6 followers, 5 fortellers = 6 apprentices, 5 original apprentices before Xehanort's corruption

You could even say that the fortellers and apprentices share the theme of knowledge.

He bestowed His six followers with new names

That's just a giveaway.

 

[Oracle Spockanort]

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Mm, they used their new 2.5 models too *u*

That's just a giveaway.

The future is just the past retold~

 

[Absent]

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You mean that it's possible that Master Xehanort's old body isn't actually his? And that he had pulled a few instances of physical possession, just like what he had done to Terra, in the past? You know, it actually kind of interests me.

Also, I'm glad that someone thinks that MX is at least related to the other Foretellers isn't completely impossible. When first seeing the other Foretellers' Keyblades, the one thing that first caught my attention is the presence of the blue eye in their design, which is a common factor between them and MX's Keyblade just as you said. However, an important caveat to take note here is that we are making this hypothesis going solely by his Keyblade. And what's this Sigil of Baphomet?

Finally, this quote by Master Xehanort in BbS came to mind after reading your post:



Is the Keyblade War that he mentioned the one which is yet to come? Or is it the past one? I know it's very likely that the war in question is the one which is yet to come, but would there be a possibility, no matter how slight, that he was referring to an event in the past?

Personally I find it weird how Xehanort knew that forbidden technique and how his obsession with the Keyblade War/X-Blade took over his life. Something within him could have resonated with the lore of the war. A forgotten past? Personally I think its a cool idea to think of Xehanort as this warrior that kept possessing others just for the sake of one day seeing the war he so deeply begets.

I support this theory.

 

[Nayru's Love]

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The future is just the past retold~

Another Organization, another few rounds with familiar faces, and another crazy KH doomsday plot. Yep, seems so; and I think we can both agree that that's only the tip of the iceberg.

If the prophecy was given to only five of them, then the sixth follower may have represented the one who makes the prophecy come true; the difference between potential and reality. Much like how the foretellers planned to prevent the prophecy, the original apprentices were studying hearts to prevent the corruption of darkness predicted by AtW. However, Xehanort was their sixth foreteller.

 

[Chaser]

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Mm, they used their new 2.5 models too *u*

If only their faces were that animated during battle.

 

[Theta]

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Yet another example of numerical symbolism, I think.

6 followers, 5 fortellers = 6 apprentices, 5 original apprentices before Xehanort's corruption

You could even say that the fortellers and apprentices share the theme of knowledge.



He bestowed His six followers with new names




That's just a giveaway.

Also that bit about how he created Chirity, in what looked like a test tube. Although Ansem didn't give his followers new names, that was Xemnas.

Also I really hardly see how this connects to KH3. Am I missing something just incredibly obvious?

 

[The_Echo]

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<strong>The war in that place will lead to the defeat and destruction of the Light. </strong><br /></span><strong>The World will be enveloped in eternal Darkness.</strong>

That seems all well and good, though calling the final clash between the Guardians and Seekers a "war" seems a bit much to me. Unless something crazy happens But what interests me is what followed after that passage.

Through the cards, you are using the power of the future to try and protect the light from the darkness, and avert the future enveloped in darkness.

Now, I guess only that passage is the canonical part of χ... but could KHIII be in some way affected by the community's efforts in this game?

I'm interested to see just how χ​'s piece of the puzzle will fall into place at the end of it all.

EDIT: Guys what if the sixth Foreteller is the thirteenth Seeker

 

[WarpChaos]

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OMG HYPE

 

[IShouldBeStudyin]

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I hope they have two endings based on your actions throughout the game. Like one where darkness wins and one where light does. That'd be interesting imo

 

[Solo]

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Alternate endings, huh? I imagine it would cause a discrepancy in canonicity and as we know, the KHverse can't have both being canon thanks to its linear, singular timeline. I don't think it would leave a good aftertaste, but that's just my personal opinion.

 

[Chaser]

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Games can have a non-canon bad ending and a canon good ending. Just look at X-2 and Persona 4. They both have Bad, Neutral and Good endings (Persona 4 also has the True ending).

 

[Nayru's Love]

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Also that bit about how he created Chirity, in what looked like a test tube. Although Ansem didn't give his followers new names, that was Xemnas.

Well, similar theme of renaming, anyways.

Also I really hardly see how this connects to KH3. Am I missing something just incredibly obvious?

It'd be a clue that'd reveal possible patterns across the series; my favorite way of predicting the future is by observing patterns.

 

[Gram]

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Very foreshadowing, betting it's their attempt to prevent this prophecy that leads to it's outcome. Also the part of "that place" stands out to me.