Strength Inconsistencies

[Twilight]

It was said that Roxas had half of Sora's strength, and when they reunited, Sora and Roxas combined their strengths. However, when Sora (recombined with Roxas) faced Organization members, he had a heck of a time trying to defeat them. Is it just me, or the fact that Sora had Roxas within him mean absolutely nothing?

And by the way, considering the fact that Sora lost his nobody half at Hollow Bastion in KH1 had no real effect on his "strength" leaves me thinking there was a huge inconsistency.

Is a nobody + a heartless > a single nobody, or a single heartless?

Shouldn't Riku have kicked Roxas' butt?

Shouldn't EVERYONE?!

What do you think?

 

[xickae]

Roxas was the second strongest member (weaker only than Xemnas - Nomura's words) but that doesn't mean the difference of powers was that big, that also doesn't mean that Roxas alone could easily defeat any member and the Org. members were strong independent whether Roxas was fused with Sora or Roxas alone, Roxas was just stronger, how much we don't know (remember what Saïx said: "Only you could make this far in one piece Roxas"). One more thing, Roxas had half of Sora's strength, that means that when Roxas fused back with Sora he regained his original strength.

 

[kh is ba]

I think the strength that Roxas gave sora was the ability to weild two keyblades. But thats just my opinion.

 

[Essence of Elegy]

Roxas had entered Sora, but never fully merged with him. It wasn't until before the Xemnas boss fight that Sora truly became one with Roxas.

 

[haX]

I think the strength that Roxas gave sora was the ability to weild two keyblades. But thats just my opinion.

Actually, I'm pretty sure that since Sora can a) only do that in Forms and b) can do that early in the game, I don't think it has anything to do with Roxas...

 

[shadywinters]

Roxas was Sora's other half, so matbe at some times he felt incomplete, so when they came together, they both felt whole.

 

[Twilight]

Roxas had entered Sora, but never fully merged with him. It wasn't until before the Xemnas boss fight that Sora truly became one with Roxas.

Nice opinion, but I don't think that's true.

Roxas was the second strongest member (weaker only than Xemnas - Nomura's words) but that doesn't mean the difference of powers was that big, that also doesn't mean that Roxas alone could easily defeat any member and the Org. members were strong independent whether Roxas was fused with Sora or Roxas alone, Roxas was just stronger, how much we don't know (remember what Saïx said: "Only you could make this far in one piece Roxas"). One more thing, Roxas had half of Sora's strength, that means that when Roxas fused back with Sora he regained his original strength.

Yeah, but why did Sora not weaken due to Roxas' absence from within him? And how is it that Riku, a FULL person who was able to challenge Sora easily throughout KH1 and KH2, not able to defeat Roxas?

I'm suggesting that Sora having Roxas or not having Roxas is a superficial point and has absolutely nothing to do with the story, in the area of strength. It feels as though the idea of the Nobody was created after KH1, and not in the mind of Nomura until KH1 was a success.

 

[King Mario]

Nice opinion, but I don't think that's true.



Yeah, but why did Sora not weaken due to Roxas' absence from within him? And how is it that Riku, a FULL person who was able to challenge Sora easily throughout KH1 and KH2, not able to defeat Roxas?

I'm suggesting that Sora having Roxas or not having Roxas is a superficial point and has absolutely nothing to do with the story, in the area of strength. It feels as though the idea of the Nobody was created after KH1, and not in the mind of Nomura until KH1 was a success.

No, the idea of nobodies was long before KH2, they were mentioned in KH FM Ansem report 13.

 

[*~NeoAdamus~*]

thats a good question Twilight, of course you should know Sora did beat Riku in 2 battles, Riku lost in a battle to Roxas once and then Riku beat him using his full power of darkness

 

[Denki-Kurai]

It was said that Roxas had half of Sora's strength, and when they reunited, Sora and Roxas combined their strengths. However, when Sora (recombined with Roxas) faced Organization members, he had a heck of a time trying to defeat them. Is it just me, or the fact that Sora had Roxas within him mean absolutely nothing?

Good question. But i think that if Sora had not had Roxas (or lost him for a period of time) then...hmm what did Roxas take from Sora...I think that since Roxas didnt become a nobody like the others(remmeber him and Namine are different from the others) something...something...yeah

And by the way, considering the fact that Sora lost his nobody half at Hollow Bastion in KH1 had no real effect on his "strength" leaves me thinking there was a huge inconsistency.

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Again the way Roxas came to be was not the way a nobody is suppose to Sora wasnt suppose to come back after losing his heart. We have Kairi to thank for that.

Is a nobody + a heartless > a single nobody, or a single heartless?

A heartless and a nobody are 2 different beings. Putting them together like that..it wouldnt be either maybe...just a human

Shouldn't Riku have kicked Roxas' butt?

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did..kinda didnt you see the knocked out Roxas back at the manision?

Shouldn't EVERYONE?!

No. Keyblade weilders shouldn't go down that easily.
*gasp* Roxas hater! XP

What do you think?

I think all the above should cover this
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