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Yeah... We went kind of off topic in that last thread. Why not make a whole new thread without derailing any others?
 

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probably a good idea to have something to contribute to the discussion before starting a thread on it
 

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probably a good idea to have something to contribute to the discussion before starting a thread on it
There is plenty to contribute on from the FF7R thread that was derailed and closed.
 

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I kind of don't even want to know what happened after I commented that and had to log off. Definitely snowballed into something fierce I imagine o.o
 

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Basically; i replied to a member how anita saarkeesian and her treatment was showing how SJWs are necessary for gaming and another member was calling her a hypocrite, saying that she and any members who looked up to her should be killed.

Tl;dr it got lit
 

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Basically; i replied to a member how anita saarkeesian and her treatment was showing how SJWs are necessary for gaming and another member was calling her a hypocrite, saying that she and any members who looked up to her should be killed.

Tl;dr it got lit
Well her morals are pretty awful to gaming and politics in general, and she is in fact just an all around horrible and hypocritical person, but that's no reason to incite death on people. That's not gonna solve anything.
 

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Well her morals are pretty awful to gaming and politics in general, and she is in fact just an all around horrible and hypocritical person, but that's no reason to incite death on people. That's not gonna solve anything.
I know little about her but i read an interview with her on GI and it seemed to be on point. She was doing a speech st a college and it received numerous death threats.
 

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I just don't feel comfortable being condescended to by someone who thinks the worst thing in the world is to give a shit and that being gay has something to do with testosterone.

When did it become cool to not care about other people? That's honestly the heart of it
 

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I know little about her but i read an interview with her on GI and it seemed to be on point. She was doing a speech st a college and it received numerous death threats.
What's even funnier is that a lot of the games she attacks and belittles she in fact owns in her collection and plays in her downtime, like Fallout especially. I just can't even begin haha
 

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I don't get the hate with her, every time she pops up I see a different reason why she's awful, like the last time I heard of her the common chant was that she didn't play games? You can play games and tear them apart? Have you met the kingdom hearts fandom?

i side eye the whole thing knowing it was started by a disgruntled ex
 

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I am getting continuously confused the more i hear about her
 

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It kinda starts with the basic fundamental foundation of 'if you don't like it, don't buy it'. No one should EVER have any say of what should be in a game or other form of entertainment than the artist themselves.
 

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I figure that it's possible to be courteous of others without being overly PC. It's also possible to point out tropes and stereotypes without flipping out and acting supremely offended on some minority's behalf.

Neither side knows how to keep it civil, tbh. :I

Though I do find it hilarious that people will quibble over gender roles and terminology while gleefully ignoring the violence; you're supposed to be killing other people, which is a worse crime, all things considered, even if it's through fantastical means such as magic or illogical swordplay. But hey, I'm not gonna complain about it. If you're an omnicidal maniac, no one will accuse you of being a sexist bigot. =w= (Ugh it's a joke, don't shoot me.)
 
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It kinda starts with the basic fundamental foundation of 'if you don't like it, but buy it'. No one should EVER have any say of what should be in a game or other form of entertainment than the artist themselves.
I disagree, it's a reviewer's job to sample and study a bunch of media in order to critique it. Reviews should come from people who consume all kinds of media and if video games are ever going to be taken seriously then the genre needs to be studied and critiqued. It's the only way we can get a well rounded view of things. That should extend even to groups we don't agree with
 

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It kinda starts with the basic fundamental foundation of 'if you don't like it, don't buy it'. No one should EVER have any say of what should be in a game or other form of entertainment than the artist themselves.
I wouldn't say that. There are pieces of "art" which are straight up racist and sexist. Many aren't, and on those i believe the less represented groups have a right to say how they'd like to get portrayed, if they are at all.
 

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That's true, and further the artist has their say when they create the thing, but the consumers are tasked with viewing it and talkin about it forever. It doesn't change the media you champion to be critical of it.
 

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Not to mention the games that are just plain bad. If you're going to release a passionless piece of shit and say "enjoy", people are going to complain and rightfully so. Every piece of media is subject to criticism.
 

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And I think a lot of people are afraid that criticism leads to censorship, and I agree that censorship is a bad thing. However, most people who are critics of these issues are more interested in stopping the thought process that leads to these selections as opposed to getting rid of a piece of media that aready exists.
 

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It kinda starts with the basic fundamental foundation of 'if you don't like it, don't buy it'. No one should EVER have any say of what should be in a game or other form of entertainment than the artist themselves.
you know all she is doing is critiquing the stuff in the games right? like, do you say the same to film critics and book reviewers? critique and analysization is a key part of any medium, why is it different for games? a critique isn't the same as censorship. the artist puts their work out there, but no work is complete without the audience reacting to that.
 

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And I think a lot of people are afraid that criticism leads to censorship, and I agree that censorship is a bad thing. However, most people who are critics of these issues are more interested in stopping the thought process that leads to these selections as opposed to getting rid of a piece of media that aready exists.
Yeah but most people would rather take the nuclear option than accept change. There was a law passed that if a special kind of gun was sold, a pistol requiring the owners fingerprints, that it would be the only gun allowed to be sold. Naturally, 'mericans sent death threats. Why? Fuck if i know.
 
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