Ok, so judging from the BBS secret ending and the Coded ending, it looks as if Sora is going to save Ven, Roxas, Terra, Aqua and the rest. But if Roxas and Ven use the same heart, then surely in order to bring back both Roxas would have to become a normal nobody with no emotions? This would make for some interesting plots in the next game, as Roxas may battle Ven for his emotions...
[SPOILERS FOR CODED AND BIRTH BY SLEEP]Saving both Ven and Roxas an impossibility?
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Personally I just think Ven and Roxas are the same person, just one doesn't have any memories and was a Nobody, while the other was a real boy. So I don't see why they would fight each other when they seem to be the exact same person.
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More like Roxas just looks like Ven because of Ven's heart which is fused to Sora's.
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And yet Roxas acted like he had a heart, and what with Sora stabbing himself with the Heart Unlocker, it's not that unlikely to say it released Ven's heart and became one with Roxas. But then again I'm probably wrong.
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that's hwy i made my sentiments theory.
If that was the case then why show him in the secret ending? I'm sure if he remembered Xion he would want to be seperated from Sora.
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It really depends on whether or not though Roxas was really just Sora's body and soul or if he truly had Ven's heart. And seeing as hearts make people who they are, they would be saving him by saving Ven since they could very well be the same person.
Of course, Vanitas would be needed for such a movement.
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lonbilly, can you please explain that a little more?
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Okay, I shall.
It's speculated Roxas had a heart. I personally believed since he was made when Sora stabbed himself with the Heart Unlocker (which has been shown to also unlock hearts' true potential, as well) that he ended up with Ven's heart which may have been fused with Sora's, or was just dormit. And if he did, the heart very well was what made him... well, him. And therefore, since he was basically Ven's heart, bringing back Ven would also be bringing back Roxas since they were the same.
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but we ignore the body and soul completely?
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The body and the soul was just what kept Roxas together and able to walk, fight, etc. All they would have to do was put him in Ven's body, and waalaa. Same person and in the right body and soul this time.
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that really doesnt make sense.....your saying roxas wasnt even a nobody at all, he was a whole person but taken over sora's body and soul.
i honestly think ven's heart is still in sora but influenced sora's body.
either way, it's almost saying that roxas didnt even exist
i honestly think ven's heart is still in sora but influenced sora's body.
either way, it's almost saying that roxas didnt even exist
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Being a Nobody could actually be debatable if it was on the subject of having a heart. So yes, he may have not been a Nobody, but born the way a Nobody is. Hell, Mansex even acted at times like he was Ven.
I believe it went back when Roxas merged back, but from the point where Sora became a Heartless to KH2, I'm thinking it was just him.
Because Roxas was pretty much Ven.
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well for now, i'm going by whats confirmed, and that being roxas sora's nobody.
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Which is very much still possible. Hell, I think Roxas was Ven but still Sora's Nobody in some strange way.
I just hope Ultimania clears it up, because it's sort of unclear at the moment.
waalaa?Isnt it Voila? nevermind. I´d like to say,that Ven and Roxas seem to have nothing in common aside from their looks.I think its possible for Roxas to have Vens heart,still i think that Roxas belongs with Sora.And even if Roxas remembered Xion, if i remember right Xion´s last words were : "Roxas dont be sad,I came from you and Sora,I am you,the same way as I am Sora,you´ll forget me,but the memories themselves...memories of you and me ,will always be inside of him,forever."
I think seperating them both from sora again would...just wouldnt be right,they belong with Sora.And they both acccepted this fate.
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well, not really, have you read my sentiments theory? i think it's the most plausible and simplest way to explain it.
though again, it's not really that's roxas is possibly a nobody, it's that it's just plain fact. kh2 ultimania confirmed it
though again, it's not really that's roxas is possibly a nobody, it's that it's just plain fact. kh2 ultimania confirmed it
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Then explain that if Roxas is pretty much ven, then why is ven still in the room of awakining? Are you saying that roxas's body is vens body?
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she/he ( i didnt look at the gender) said that roxas is actually ven's heart controlling sora's body and soul, therefore not a nobody.
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