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SPOILER About Robed Figure knowing the exact events and places in DDD



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This post is about how Robed Figure knew how to be in that exact time, place, etc to be a portal to the Realm of Sleep for the other Xehanort's and make his plan of gathering them at TWNW, and how he told it to YX, time traveling, but before this all happened

Robed Figure is in DI when it is falling to darkness, that same moment when the Mark of Mastery started and so his plan goes on.
When YX is explaining about all this, he states that Ansem controlled Riku and saw his experiences in real life, as explaining how RF knew it all exactly. Placing himself there and this was even before traveling in time cause he told Young Xehanort to reunite them in TWNW

But RF controlled Riku after this, not during (in Hollow Bastion), so RF couldn't know about that event (because it was not up to him the falling in darkness of DI) to place himself to be a portal an make his plan. So what is referring then YX about RF controling Riku and experiencing to explain how RF placed himself there at that exact time knowing all? (RF controls Riku after this happens, in HB)


Plan so planned to know about the Mark of Mastery exactly there and in that exact time to gather the Xehanorts in that exact place after the Mark of Mastery in TWTNW, and he travelled in time, told to YX before this happened



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In that scene Sora actually asks how Ansem (the Robed Figure) knew to be on Destiny Islands that day. YX replies 'Simple' and then we see Kairi rushing towards the camera before the scene shifts.

It isn't explained in DDD but in Ansem's reports (number 11, specifically) from KH1 we learn that he suspected Kairi might be a Princess of Heart and that she might lead him to the 'key bearer' and he was effectively* correct. So Kairi ended up on Destiny Islands with Sora and Riku and Ansem was able to track her somehow and that's how he knew to be there on that fateful day.

*'Effectively' correct because it wasn't actually Kairi's Princess of Heart powers which led her to Sora but the charm Aqua put on the young Kairi in BBS (Nomura confirms this in the BBS Ultimania).
 

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In that scene Sora actually asks how Ansem (the Robed Figure) knew to be on Destiny Islands that day. YX replies 'Simple' and then we see Kairi rushing towards the camera before the scene shifts.

It isn't explained in DDD but in Ansem's reports (number 11, specifically) from KH1 we learn that he suspected Kairi might be a Princess of Heart and that she might lead him to the 'key bearer' and he was effectively* correct. So Kairi ended up on Destiny Islands with Sora and Riku and Ansem was able to track her somehow and that's how he knew to be there on that fateful day.

*'Effectively' correct because it wasn't actually Kairi's Princess of Heart powers which led her to Sora but the charm Aqua put on the young Kairi in BBS (Nomura confirms this in the BBS Ultimania).
Robed Figure had a look on DI because that yes indeed, but that doesn't mean he knew all the exact time, plus the falling of DI was not cause of him, he did not make DI fall so he could control it and knew, he was 9 years all the time in DI till the falling?

After what you quote, it is when YX says about RF controlled Riku and saw his experiences in real life, that is to mean something as seeing Riku's life so he could knew all, but he controlled Riku lot after the falling, in Hollow Bastion, unless YX is meaning other control

Still plus to add, he even told YX to gather at TWTNW after his plan in the Realm of Sleep but before all this happened, so that means that RF knew how the Mark would be about Realm of Sleep, the gathering, etc... before happening
 
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Robbed figure talkes to young xehanort about the future.
Young xehanort grows old to become the old figure and go back in time to tell his younger self of the future events he learned from his future self.
In Kingdom Hearts, time is immutable. So in this case, it's kind of information that generated itself in a closed loop. It has no origin. There is a weird movie called predestination that talks about this kind of time loop.
 

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Robbed figure talkes to young xehanort about the future.
Young xehanort grows old to become the old figure and go back in time to tell his younger self of the future events he learned from his future self.
In Kingdom Hearts, time is immutable. So in this case, it's kind of information that generated itself in a closed loop. It has no origin. There is a weird movie called predestination that talks about this kind of time loop.
So like 2 versions of the events or like 2 versions of YX: the one who did not travel to the future and the one who did:

1. YX did not know anything, until becoming old, then becoming Robed Figure and traveled past to his younger self?

2. So following this conversation with RF ''this other'' YX, knowing all to do (no what happens cause he doesn't remember what will happen at being back to his time, but knowing that something to do because RF said to him as said in the report in KH 3, that he had guidelines to his future or something like that)

Still what would he meant about RF controlled Riku and experiencing?
 
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