Something I fear for in ReCoded

[Ventuskeyblade]

well, nomura is probably going to add some new things to the remake BECAUSE its a remake. so i wouldnt worry.

 

[kupo1121]

I wouldn't worry either, I think he would account for problems like that before making the game so I don't think you should worry

 

[skyfoxx]

I highly doubt this'd be the case. I don't think you have anything to worry about.

 

[HeartSeams]

well, nomura is probably going to add some new things to the remake BECAUSE its a remake. so i wouldnt worry.

He's said he's not adding anything to the story though except for the Secret Ending, so....

 

[Nostalgia]

Referring to the OP, this is a very good point. I never actually thought of that, but I really doubt Nomura's gonna make any magic happen here. I lost faith in the guy 2 years ago. In all honesty, I think he started off with something great, but he should turn over creative control to somebody else before he completely destroys the series.

 

[HeartSeams]

Referring to the OP, this is a very good point. I never actually thought of that, but I really doubt Nomura's gonna make any magic happen here. I lost faith in the guy 2 years ago. In all honesty, I think he started off with something great, but he should turn over creative control to somebody else before he completely destroys the series.

Why do you feel like he's driving the story down?

 

[Nostalgia]

Why do you feel like he's driving the story down?

It's hard for me to describe, but I'll try. With the first KH, we had a very simple, but awesome story. CoM came around and served its purpose. Frankly, I call it a fraction of a game, but it set the stage for KH II as it was meant to, and I have no complaints. People seem to have a lot of beef with KHII, and ironically (considering the point I'm trying to make) I enjoyed KHII a lot. But from there, that's when I started losing faith. It's not so much that I think he's driving the story down, though the misconception is completely understandable. More so, I meant to say that it's becoming too chaotic. Nothing seems to make sense anymore. Not only do these three games have no as-of-now blatant connection to one another, but even the individual plots have holes. As of now, there's no reason for Xion's existence at all, from what I read of Coded's plot, it seemed like a waste of time (and a confusing one at that), and I won't talk about BBS (because I'm too lazy for the spoilers box) but what I raed had a similar impact on me. Now, the man has to make another game which I'm expecting will plunge the series even further into a completely incoherent mess, and this is all supposed to lead into KH III? It just seems like he's this overzealous guy who rushes into starting projects without considering how superfluous these inclusions have become. Think about how long it took BBS to be produced. That's a ridiculous amount of time for a PSP game with no graphical capabilities beyond the last gen's PS2. But the man was balancing two other KH games, plus his projects with FFXIII. His real-life actions actually symbolize what he's been doing to the KH plot. he hasn't actually closed up any gaps because he's too busy making new ones, which reflects how it takes him forever to finish the games because he keeps adding new ones to the mix.

Hopefully, this sums up my disillusionment with the direction in which the series is going.

 

[HeartSeams]

More so, I meant to say that it's becoming too chaotic. Nothing seems to make sense anymore.

To me it makes a lot of sense, actually. =/

Not only do these three games have no as-of-now blatant connection to one another

Coded pretty blatantly shows its connections to Days and BBS in its final chapter....

but even the individual plots have holes.

Hm... any others beside what you outline below? Maybe I could help?

As of now, there's no reason for Xion's existence at all

I'm not sure what you mean. Do you mean, story wise? Because story wise her existence is made rather blunt. If you mean in terms of the future story, she may or may not hold that much importance (though Coded implies that she could). She's an existence that was made to fill one of the gaps in plot that was left by KH2, so in that way, her existence has a decent reason, though YMMV on its effect.

from what I read of Coded's plot, it seemed like a waste of time (and a confusing one at that)

It isn't. Some people consider it one because the final reveal of Ansem hiding data in Sora, was revealed in the BBS ending, but much of Coded holds importance, imo. It was about letting the -characters- know of this fact as well as explain what torment is, why these people need to be saved and why you should even care. To me, it was a rather effective little game. While I could see while some people may think it would be easier to just shove it all in a cutscene or whatever, the joy of Coded is in its character interactions/development, imo. Riku and Sora in particular have some really great moments that you typically just wouldn't see.

To each their own though.

but what I raed had a similar impact on me.

Maybe the problem is that you're -reading- this stuff instead of actually experiencing it. Anyone can give you a rundown of the final reveals, the endpoint answers, but to actually see it depicted, to experience it, is what makes the games' stories enjoyable. I liked Coded because, instead of just jumping to the last episode to find out what it was all about, I got caught up in the characters. When Sora sees Riku's lifeless body in Hollow Bastion and you can see the immense amount of torment on his face I got caught up in it too, and it made me feel something. People tend to take that aspect for granted though.

Think about how long it took BBS to be produced. That's a ridiculous amount of time for a PSP game with no graphical capabilities beyond the last gen's PS2.

What does graphics have to do with it? BBS is the size of a main console title, of course it is going to take a long time. It's also ridiculously important to the storyline.

he hasn't actually closed up any gaps because he's too busy making new ones.

I've felt like he's closed up quite a number of gaps, personally. =/

 

[skyfoxx]

Well I was going to make a reply to Nostalgia but HeartSeams pretty much said everything I was going to say and more so I'm not going to bother.

To me it makes a lot of sense, actually. =/


Coded pretty blatantly shows its connections to Days and BBS in its final chapter....


Hm... any others beside what you outline below? Maybe I could help?


I'm not sure what you mean. Do you mean, story wise? Because story wise her existence is made rather blunt. If you mean in terms of the future story, she may or may not hold that much importance (though Coded implies that she could). She's an existence that was made to fill one of the gaps in plot that was left by KH2, so in that way, her existence has a decent reason, though YMMV on its effect.


It isn't. Some people consider it one because the final reveal of Ansem hiding data in Sora, was revealed in the BBS ending, but much of Coded holds importance, imo. It was about letting the -characters- know of this fact as well as explain what torment is, why these people need to be saved and why you should even care. To me, it was a rather effective little game. While I could see while some people may think it would be easier to just shove it all in a cutscene or whatever, the joy of Coded is in its character interactions/development, imo. Riku and Sora in particular have some really great moments that you typically just wouldn't see.

To each their own though.


Maybe the problem is that you're -reading- this stuff instead of actually experiencing it. Anyone can give you a rundown of the final reveals, the endpoint answers, but to actually see it depicted, to experience it, is what makes the games' stories enjoyable. I liked Coded because, instead of just jumping to the last episode to find out what it was all about, I got caught up in the characters. When Sora sees Riku's lifeless body in Hollow Bastion and you can see the immense amount of torment on his face I got caught up in it too, and it made me feel something. People tend to take that aspect for granted though.


What does graphics have to do with it? BBS is the size of a main console title, of course it is going to take a long time. It's also ridiculously important to the storyline.


I've felt like he's closed up quite a number of gaps, personally. =/