Shibuya

[OneDandelion]

Chirithy: "The edges of sleep and death touch, and one can't help but the occasional crossover."

Yozora contacted Sora through sleep/dreams, which is why both versions end with Yozora waking up after the battle.

I'd find it very odd that Yozora meets Sora by chance while taking a nap in his car, especially when everyone in Sora's reality is looking for him including Kairi who voluntarily placed herself in a coma to investigate the boundary between sleep and death. It's more likely the trials he referred to gave him that power, but that isn't a power that can be obtained from the reapers game.

I had another thought that keyblade wielders could sort of be thought of as the "angels" in TWEWY. Even Joshua was surprised to see Riku show up in DDD which would seem to indicate that Riku (as a keyblade wielder) has some power greater than a composer - which are only briefly mentioned in TWEWY as angels. As we don't actually know what the roles of keyblade wielders are I think it would be a cool story concept and an awesome way to link KH to TWEWY. If it turns out Yozora is on par with an arch angel in TWEWY it would make some sense that he could cross over planes and find Sora as well.

Funny enough, the "Producer" in TWEWY is an angel sent to Shibuya allowed to communicate with the people there, but forbidden from revealing his identity as an "angel". This is sort of reminiscent of KH1 when Sora is repeatedly told by donald and goofy not to reveal his identity as a keyblade wielder from another world because it would mess with the world order.

 

[Face My Fears]

I'd find it very odd that Yozora meets Sora by chance while naking a nap in his car, especially when everyone in Sora's reality is looking for him including Kairi who voluntarily placed herself in a coma to investigate the boundary between sleep and death. It's more likely the trials he referred to gave him that power, but that isn't a power that can be obtained from the reapers game.

I had another thought that keyblade wielders could sort of be thought of as the "angels" in TWEWY. Even Joshua was surprised to see Riku show up in DDD which would seem to indicate that Riku (as a keyblade wielder) has some power greater than a composer - which are only briefly mentioned in TWEWY as angels. As we don't actually know what the roles of keyblade wielders are I think it would be a cool story concept and an awesome way to link KH to TWEWY. If it turns out Yozora is on par with an arch angel in TWEWY it would make some sense that he could cross over planes and find Sora as well.

Funny enough, the "Producer" in TWEWY is an angel sent to Shibuya allowed to communicate with the people there, but forbidden from revealing his identity as an "angel". This is sort of reminiscent of KH1 when Sora is repeatedly told by donald and goofy not to reveal his identity as a keyblade wielder from another world because it would mess with the world order.

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Maybe the "wild card" was the Recusant's Sigil that Luxord gave to Sora, so that Yozora would be able to find him? Luxord may have known Xemnas was going to kidnap Kairi and that Master Xehanort would kill her, so he anticipated Sora would end up in The Final World? Thus he took the opportunity to send Yozora there to meet Sora? The only question is how did Luxord (who died/was recompleted a few days maybe) end up returning to Shibuya and working for a commander like nothing happened?

 

[Sarius]

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Maybe the "wild card" was the Recusant's Sigil that Luxord gave to Sora, so that Yozora would be able to find him? Luxord may have known Xemnas was going to kidnap Kairi and that Master Xehanort would kill her, so he anticipated Sora would end up in The Final World? Thus he took the opportunity to send Yozora there to meet Sora? The only question is how did Luxord (who died/was recompleted a few days maybe) end up returning to Shibuya and working for a commander like nothing happened?

If he started there, would he not have been recompleted there? Ansems apprentices all (mostly) appeared in Radiant Garden, which is where the experiments all took place and assumeably where things went wrong and they all lost their hearts.

If that's the case, then heartless must exist in Yozoras world too, because he became Luxord.

 

[Face My Fears]

If he started there, would he not have been recompleted there? Ansems apprentices all (mostly) appeared in Radiant Garden, which is where the experiments all took place and assumeably where things went wrong and they all lost their hearts.

If that's the case, then heartless must exist in Yozoras world too, because he became Luxord.

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I was trying to get at an employee of a "commander" vanishing for a while then returning like nothing happened OR someone vanishing then returning and becoming an employee of a "commander" in a short period of time.

I think I'm just overthinking that part, but it is strange to think if Luxord was a major part of Yozora's world that he could have just disappeared for over a year (KH Days to KH2), reappear (after death in KH2), then disappear again (rejoining Organization), then reappear (death in KH3) and have no one question it.

Luxord wasn't one of the original apprentices that were experimented on in Radiant Garden. The people that got turned into nobodies at Radiant Garden are: Xemnas, Xigbar, Xaldin, Vexen, Lexaeus, Zexion, Saix, and Axel. Demyx, Luxord, Marluxia, and Larxene (all with "ancient ties to the keyblade") were turned into nobodies at unknown locations.

 

[OneDandelion]

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Maybe the "wild card" was the Recusant's Sigil that Luxord gave to Sora, so that Yozora would be able to find him? Luxord may have known Xemnas was going to kidnap Kairi and that Master Xehanort would kill her, so he anticipated Sora would end up in The Final World? Thus he took the opportunity to send Yozora there to meet Sora? The only question is how did Luxord (who died/was recompleted a few days maybe) end up returning to Shibuya and working for a commander like nothing happened?

Maybe Yozora traveled to the past from the final world the same way Sora did in the keyblade graveyard, to a time before Luxord became a nobody. There's some evidence that Shibuya was the origin of traverse town as well which would make some sense.

It would stand to reason that Luxord knew the Sora of Yozora's world so maybe giving the card to him was his last hope of "saving" sora by uniting him with Yozora.

 

[FudgemintGuardian]

I'd find it very odd that Yozora meets Sora by chance while taking a nap in his car, especially when everyone in Sora's reality is looking for him including Kairi who voluntarily placed herself in a coma to investigate the boundary between sleep and death. It's more likely the trials he referred to gave him that power, but that isn't a power that can be obtained from the reapers game.

We don't know exactly when everyone starts looking for Sora and the meeting with Yozora seems to have happened just after Sora faded away into The Final World. There's several ways how they met. Sora's heart calling out could have contacted him. Possibly an unknown connection between the two brought them together. Maybe Joshua did it. Yozora was told to "save Sora" after going through those "trails", so maybe this was told to him by Joshua or Mr. H. Maybe they know something big is going on and were preparing for it by looking for someone tough enough help out.

It's possible any chance of contact with Sora might have been cut off since then, which is why everyone's year-long search has been fruitless. Sora may not even be in the same time anymore for all we know.

I had another thought that keyblade wielders could sort of be thought of as the "angels" in TWEWY. Even Joshua was surprised to see Riku show up in DDD which would seem to indicate that Riku (as a keyblade wielder) has some power greater than a composer - which are only briefly mentioned in TWEWY as angels.

Pretty sure his surprise over Riku showing up in Twilight Town was just hinting at Riku being a Dream Eater.

 

[Ballad of Caius]

We don't know exactly when everyone starts looking for Sora and the meeting with Yozora seems to have happened just after Sora faded away into The Final World.

We could also make an argument that, just like time in the Realm of Darkness flows differently, time in the Final World flows differently, or doesn't flow at all.

Sora's heart calling out could have contacted him.

I mean, if Sora's yet to exist heart connected with Ventus', ANYTHING is possible.

Possibly an unknown connection between the two brought them together.

Nameless Star being that connection, seeing as how we got confirmation that Nameless Star mentioned Yozora to Sora.

 

[OneDandelion]

We don't know exactly when everyone starts looking for Sora and the meeting with Yozora seems to have happened just after Sora faded away into The Final World. There's several ways how they met. Sora's heart calling out could have contacted him. Possibly an unknown connection between the two brought them together. Maybe Joshua did it. Yozora was told to "save Sora" after going through those "trails", so maybe this was told to him by Joshua or Mr. H. Maybe they know something big is going on and were preparing for it by looking for someone tough enough help out.

It's possible any chance of contact with Sora might have been cut off since then, which is why everyone's year-long search has been fruitless. Sora may not even be in the same time anymore for all we know.

Pretty sure his surprise over Riku showing up in Twilight Town was just hinting at Riku being a Dream Eater.

To be honest we have almost zero to go on with this new plot which is why I stopped speculating. The only reason I don't think TWEWY will play a big role in the future is really just because it seems to me Nomura goes out of his way to keep the KH universe separate from the lore of other games/movies as much as possible. There are other reasons why I don't think the reapers game in particular will be used to bring back Sora, but there are a million ways Nomura could go about using TWEWY and it's pointless to speculate at this point because we're given nothing to go off of other than that it takes place in Shibuya which doesn't actually tell us anything significant.

Actually, I think this might be the first time since I began playing KH that I'm completely indifferent to what happens next. Not because I'm not invested in the series but because I genuinely feel that anything can happen at this point so theres no point in thinking about it.

 

[SuperNova]

The way the secret episode is framed it seems as if no time at all has passed for Sora when he pops up again in TFW. Of course, this is all speculation, but I think that he appeared back in TFW after Limit Cut when a whole year has passed. I don't think Sora was meant to meet Yozora at all, but something saved him and sent him back to TFW to encounter Yozora instead of fading away.

 

[Face My Fears]

Maybe Yozora traveled to the past from the final world the same way Sora did in the keyblade graveyard, to a time before Luxord became a nobody. There's some evidence that Shibuya was the origin of traverse town as well which would make some sense.

It would stand to reason that Luxord knew the Sora of Yozora's world so maybe giving the card to him was his last hope of "saving" sora by uniting him with Yozora.

I didn't think about Shibuya being connected to Traverse Town... interesting.

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Especially considering that during the "good" secret movie, you see hints at Traverse Town in Shibuya (or was that in the out-of-bounds exploration of the map?)

It's possible that Yozora wakes up at a time earlier than the events of KH3. Because of the parallel with Sora's opening words of KH1, I actually thought Yozora waking up in the car was happening around when Kairi yelled at Sora to wake up in KH1.