Sharingon Vs. Byakugan

[KingdomofHearts]

point taken but i still say if naruto could do it an uchiha could IMO

 

[TheMuffinMan]

It was not the Byakugan itself that failed Neji, it was his own arrogance.

The Byakugan, and a superior user of it, would not have made the same mistake.

 

[KingdomofHearts]

but he still lost cocky or not but in any case they both have the advantages it would really come down to who is more skilled with there dojutsu.

 

[TheMuffinMan]

I doubt it, the Byakugan and the Gentle Fist style is so vastly superior to the Sharingan that it really doesn't matter, the Byakugan gives it's users the advantage in nearly all situations, inadvertantly preparing them for all hardships and all types of opponents

The Sharingan is no doubt useful in combat, but against a Byakugan it is worthless

 

[KingdomofHearts]

not really its funny but they even state the byakugan is not good for close range yet neji fights only close range

 

[TheMuffinMan]

All of Sharingan's abilities are either countered, or met with an equal ability, by the Byakugan.

The ability to read muscle movement is a Byakugan ability as well in the form of insight.

Any genjutsu can easily be counteracted by not looking into the Sharingan user's eyes, or in the Byakugan's instance, merely closing thier eyes and then using the Byakugan to see through them

Sharingan can not copy any of the Byakugan's abilities or fighting styles because they are a Bloodline limit and Clan Technique

So all of Sharingan's abilities are useless against a Byakugan user, yet the Byakugan user can still use all of thier abilities and techniques. And all the Byakugan user has to do is close the Chakra point that leads to the eyes and the Sharingan user would be completely unable to summon thier Sharingan.

And when do they state that Byakugan is not meant for closed-ranged combat?

 

[KingdomofHearts]

in his fight against naruto or maybe thet was a typo....

 

[TheMuffinMan]

Ehh, the whole point of the Gentle Fist style is hand-to-hand combat, and completely immobilizing or destroying your opponent up-close in a quick and efficient fassion....so you're probably remembering wrong D=

Though Hinata does change this slightly when she learns to shoot Chakra from her palms in the form of sharp threads, which allows her to attack from a distance using them like sharp slicing wires or a whip

 

[KingdomofHearts]

i didn't know that im not all that far after the chunin exams i've seen bits and pieces of the later episodes but eh still say it has to have a huge flaw thats painfully obvious just not as noticable as sharingans...oh well just rambling

 

[.:EngetsuDrake:.]

Joining in the middle (didn´t read the posts before but whatever)

Byakugan:
+Has a nearly 360 eye feild
+can pick up small details (in hand seals or consealed weapons)
+Gentle fist fighting style
+quick reaction time due to the eye field.
+impossible to be blinded (but not distracted)
+can see thro genjutsu
+360 defence move
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-can´t see dif on a shadow clone and real clone
-Gentle fist is a long fighting style (weak at first but gets stronger the more hits)
-no other abilytis that the ultimate sight

Sharingan:
+Can copy any movment (as long body and abillity alows it)
+Can read movment and foresee them (makeing it become wery easing dodging)
+Can copy tecnices as long it´s not bloodline.
+Can make and see thu genjutsu
+Makes it easier learning (ones speed can increase much under the fight to example)
+Mangekyo Sharingan, have genjutsu that the offer dosen´t even have to look at the eyes, Tecnice that creates black flames that burn in seven days and seven nights, can warp things in to other dimensions.
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-easly blinded
-Mangekyo Sharingan makes you go blind ower time
-has not the seeing abillytis that byakugan has


My conclusin: Sharingan, it atleast seems to me more made for combat.

 

[TheMuffinMan]

Actually, just a single hit from the Gentle Fist style is more powerful than any other hit, not even a slightest touch from a Gentle Fist is weak. The 64 palms only takes awhile if you're not skilled in it's use, if the Shinobi is fast enough they can execute it extremely quickly. The Byakugan give it's user complete control over thier own Chakra circulatory system, and the ability to release Chakra from thier body, this ability gives them near endless possibilities for developing new jutsu

The Mangekyou Sharingan wasn't being included in this Debate, mainly because only 2 people have ever acheived Mangekyou Sharingan, one of which is going blind, and the other one can only use half of it's power because he is not an Uchiha. And you do have to look into the Mangekyou Sharingan in order to get under it's Genjutsu, and the Dark Flames jutsu is Itachi's own jutsu, not the Sharingans

They're both made for combat, obviously, but like I said in a previous post, thier abilities are useful in different situations.

So, I beleive the Sharingan is useful in long-running close-ranged battles, but it's usefulness in other situations is nearly non-existant. The Byakugan gives it's user the qualities and abilities that are treasured in a Shinobi, and it's abilities are invaluable in various situations and missions, along with being highly effective in combat and subduing opponents quickly and effectivley

No doubt the Sharingan is useful in combat, except against the Byakugan. The Byakugan is the Sharingan's very weakness

 

[Voltron]

i like the sharingon i say its better

 

[TheMuffinMan]

This isn't about which one you like, it's about which one is the superior bloodline limit D=

 

[KingdomofHearts]

while that is true *sharingan does look cooler* .XD

but anyways what you said earlier probaly sums it up if you disclude Mangekyo Sharingan

 

[.:EngetsuDrake:.]

True but the thing is that they take out eachother pretty good to. The real battle wud be in the skill of the users. Tex Neji vs Sasuke, wud be pretty even but I think sasuke wud win on speed just bearly.

Besides Itachi said that Saske wuld be the third and he was the second. Itachi learnd of the Msharingad from an old scroll writed by the first Msharingan user. So Kakashi is the third and saske if he gets it wuld be the fourth. If Kakashi wuld had it before the timeskip he had shurly used it against Itachi.

 

[masterofoblivion]

i say sharingon becasue it has more more like itachi