Pokemon | Scarlet & Violet (2022) + Legends Arceus is king

[Soldier]

I didn’t realize that was the point behind dual type final evolutions. I guess that works. I just want to make sure everybody doesn’t just pick one starter Over the others due to competitive advantages

Greninja wants to know your location
But yes, usually if a starter has a secondary type that is largely considered superior to the others, the other two will often learn moves to compensate for it (empoleon can also learn a lot of flying type moves to deal super effective damage to the other two starters). Sometimes it's like gen 6 where each starter's types are super effective against one in the traditional rock paper sense (fire/psychic is strong against grass/fighting, which is strong against water/dark, though water/dark is immune to psychic because of the secondary typing) But there will always be one starter that more people choose over another, and we have gen 6 to thank for it with Greninja being an excellent mon with good STAB, stats and and overpowered ability in protean (or battle bond for those who received the special greninja for gen 7.

TR's? You whipper snappers. Back in my day TM's broke once you taught a Pokemon that move, and we liked it! It built character (Even though I played Gen 5 and 6 were TM's also didn't break)

I have to say though, the mainline playable characters if that is them look kinda generic compared to previous mainline Pokemon protagonist. I guess with customization being a thing Game Freak isn't even gonna try. Shame, I was hoping for some memes like with Gloria during the early days of Gen 8 with her Scottish accent and bagpipes XD

More generic than Sun and Moon's protagonist? whose doofy unexpressive face graces the screen even during very dire moments and walks as though he has a stick up his rectum? give them time (which they don't have a lot of if it's going to be released this year, just saying).

 

[SweetYetSalty]

Greninja wants to know your location
But yes, usually if a starter has a secondary type that is largely considered superior to the others, the other two will often learn moves to compensate for it (empoleon can also learn a lot of flying type moves to deal super effective damage to the other two starters). Sometimes it's like gen 6 where each starter's types are super effective against one in the traditional rock paper sense (fire/psychic is strong against grass/fighting, which is strong against water/dark, though water/dark is immune to psychic because of the secondary typing) But there will always be one starter that more people choose over another, and we have gen 6 to thank for it with Greninja being an excellent mon with good STAB, stats and and overpowered ability in protean (or battle bond for those who received the special greninja for gen 7.

More generic than Sun and Moon's protagonist? whose doofy unexpressive face graces the screen even during very dire moments and walks as though he has a stick up his rectum? give them time (which they don't have a lot of if it's going to be released this year, just saying).

Hey! I actually liked the Sun and Moon kids. At least their early designs. How could you not like the girl's weird chicken/glove hat? That too was meme worthy, not as much as Gloria but pretty memorable. But truthfully I didn't actually play the Sun and Moon games, but I liked that weird chicken hat in a Hawaiian setting. Her hair must have been sweaty though. Ultra Sun and Moon made her more generic

 

[Soldier]

Hey! I actually liked the Sun and Moon kids. At least their early designs. How could you not like the girl's weird chicken/glove hat? That too was meme worthy, not as much as Gloria but pretty memorable. But truthfully I didn't actually play the Sun and Moon games, but I liked that weird chicken hat in a Hawaiian setting. Her hair must have been sweaty though. Ultra Sun and Moon made her more generic

She must have been sweating throughout the whole game EXCEPT in Po Town and Mt. Lanakila, the only places where it isn't a tropical paradise.

 

[Recon]

Kinda unimpressed. It just looks bland. I’m assuming they used a lot of resources from Sword/Shield.

 

[Sonofjafar]

How much longer til somebody does a Duckman parody with Quaxity

 

[Sonofjafar]

i know this joke has been done already but not in song

 

[Soldier]

Kinda unimpressed. It just looks bland. I’m assuming they used a lot of resources from Sword/Shield.

I don't know, Seviper looks pretty damn detailed.

 

[Absent]

I feel like Quaxly is a reference to don Quixote. We saw windmills in the trailer and remember what happens when Quixote saw them...

 

[Zettaflare]

Just realized that Fuecoco isn't based on any of the remaining animals from the Chinese Zodiac. I know Cyndaquil and Fennekin technically don't qualify as a mouse or dog but now I guess that pattern is officially dead

 

[Sonofjafar]

Just realized that Fuecoco isn't based on any of the remaining animals from the Chinese Zodiac. I know Cyndaquil and Fennekin technically don't qualify as a mouse or dog but now I guess that pattern is officially dead

Even if they did continue that pattern, Game Freak would have run out of CZ animals eventually

 

[Soldier]

Even if they did continue that pattern, Game Freak would have run out of CZ animals eventually

Not for a long while actually, considering the chinese zodiac is comprised of 12 animals and the last one prior to Fuecoco is the rabbit, that meant they had the sheep, horse, snake and ox left to fill. Honestly surprised they didn't use the ox this time and went for a gator, would've fit with the whole "Spain" thing

Just realized that Fuecoco isn't based on any of the remaining animals from the Chinese Zodiac. I know Cyndaquil and Fennekin technically don't qualify as a mouse or dog but now I guess that pattern is officially dead

Well, Cyndaquil is the "fire MOUSE Pokemon" and one of its inspirations is the shrew (a rodent), and if we're getting technical, foxes are part of the Canidae family (which is comprised of dogs and wolves). So the zodiac still held for gens 2 and 6 at least.

I feel like Quaxly is a reference to don Quixote. We saw windmills in the trailer and remember what happens when Quixote saw them...

He honestly strikes me more as a bull fighter given his pose, but there's no way we're not getting a Don Quixote inspired mon this time around.

 

[Dentim]

Seems that, if nothing else, they've been updating textures. The seemless open world also gets me interested, it's clear that the Wild Areas and Legends were trials to figuring that out.
And I can honestly say that this is the first time I have no clue which of the 3 new starters I prefer (in a good way). In previous gens I've always had a preference from the moment I see them.

 

[MATGSY]

Well, Cyndaquil is the "fire MOUSE Pokemon" and one of its inspirations is the shrew (a rodent), and if we're getting technical, foxes are part of the Canidae family (which is comprised of dogs and wolves). So the zodiac still held for gens 2 and 6 at least.

Cyndaquil always looked more like an anteater to me. Makes sense in hindsight with Durants being steel type, Cyndaquil could snack on them all day as a fire type.

 

[Soldier]

Cyndaquil always looked more like an anteater to me. Makes sense in hindsight with Durants being steel type, Cyndaquil could snack on them all day as a fire type.

Except heatmor exists for that express purpose. One of it's main inspirations is the echidna, which is essentially a spiny anteater in Australia. Fun fact: Echidna in greek mythology was the wife of Typhon, a legendary monster responsible for many of the ferocious beasts of myth. It's also a likely inspiration for the "Typh" in Typhlosion.

 

[MATGSY]

So I should've been nicknaming it Knuckles this whole time?

 

[Soldier]

So I should've been nicknaming it Knuckles this whole time?

It only goes as far as cyndaquil, Typhlosion is more stoat/badger like in physical appearance.

 

[Soldier]

So... anyone else theorizing what kinds of regional variants we'll get this time around? We know that they're going to be a constant in the series going forward (thank god) and they can definitely give a lot of mons some much needed versatility and additional moves. Keeping with the Spanish influence, I'm hoping for a tauros variant based on the Spanish Fighting Bull. Perhaps it is a little ironic considering how I hate gen I pandering (did we REALLY NEED to bring back Meowth and Psyduck if they're not getting regional variants?) but honestly if we're not getting a fire bull starter for the Spain inspired region we might as well rework one of the ones we already have.
Normal/Fighting type,
physical features: jet black fur, curved and pointed horns typical of SFB's, with it's whip-like tails ending off with little muletas (the cloth used to enrage the bull during the fight) OR make them more barbed at the end instead of fluffy.
Abilities:
Intimidate (obviously), Scrappy (of course) and anger point for its HA.

For moves... I'd say giving it superpower, body press and horn leech would be a great start. Tauros is already fairly strong enough to use them and it's plenty fast too. It's not terrible by any means, but additions to its already decent movepool would be quite beneficial to it. That is largely what regional variants do for the most part.
What do you guys think?

 

[Ernest-Panda]

I’m thinking some kind of variant of the Lotad line. Dunno what type, but I just think it’d be fitting for an evo line that’s basically a walking Spanish stereotype.

 

[Sonofjafar]

Honestly, I was hoping the direct would announce a new Pokémon Mystery Dungeon like they did with the Sword and Shield dlc

 

[NoWay]

Honestly, I was hoping the direct would announce a new Pokémon Mystery Dungeon like they did with the Sword and Shield dlc

I’m still waiting for a Explorers of the Sky remake.