how? why? the moogles say i need 13 to make to Ultima. It's all i need. i checked again and they say i need 13. they still do. i have 5. once again, remember i AM talking about Orichalcum+ and NOT Orichalcums. And we are talking KH2 not KH, right? KeybladeFinale, you said "search Kingdom Hearts". does that mean kh2 will come up too or are you talking about kingdom hearts? We are talking KH2, not KH, right?!?!?!?!?!?!? i don't belive it.... it says it but it can't be right. Someone, go to the moogles shop and tell me. How many Orichalcum+s do you need?!?!?!?!?!?!?! Also tell me what moogle shop you went to (what world). PLEASE. wait, is there a way to make the needed items/quanity needed decrease? PLEASE TELL. I need to know.