Organization XIII (oops my bad, XIV)

[Byronic Hero]

No they aren't.
We know nothing about the Unbirths, except that they go extinct by the end of BBS and that they have red eyes and that they predate the invention of the Heartless and Nobodies by ten years.

Slowly details began to peal away, and we learned that these new creatures were some sort of "groundwork" for what would later become the Heartless/Nobodies, and that Nomura said that they were to be imagined of a sort of "starting point". He also went on to say that these new enemies were very fast and agile and there was something of a "wild concept" to them.

I rest my case.

 

[Ven63087]

i believe the seen you were talking about with Zion and Roxas... is actually Xion and RIKU but i could be wrong.

 

[Phalinx]

i do not recall Master Ansem having more then one apprentice....just Xehanort. Ofc ourse we know that Xemnas was the one that started it but how did the other members become part of the Org?

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Ienzo, Braig, Even, Dilan, and Elaeus.

 

[χΧχ]

I rest my case.

Oh, what ev.
You were talking out of context.

 

[Byronic Hero]

Uh, No I wasn't. I said exactly what Nomura said. and proved you wrong.

 

[χΧχ]

Uh, No I wasn't. I said exactly what Nomura said. and proved you wrong.

You clearly said that the Unbirths were an early form of the Heartless.
Nomura said that the Unbirths are the "groundwork" or "starting point".

If I didn't know any better, I would have thought that you said the Unbirths literally became the Heartless, which would be incorrect.

 

[Byronic Hero]

You clearly said that the Unbirths were an early form of the Heartless.
Nomura said that the Unbirths are the "groundwork" or "starting point".

If I didn't know any better, I would have thought that you said the Unbirths literally became the Heartless, which would be incorrect.

If you hear "Starting point" what does that tell you? Unbirths are starting points for heartless. What dont you understand about that sentence. If starting point does not mean that Heartless are derived from Unbirths, then what do you think it means? -_-

 

[χΧχ]

If you hear "Starting point" what does that tell you? Unbirths are starting points for heartless. What dont you understand about that sentence. If starting point does not mean that Heartless are derived from Unbirths, then what do you think it means? -_-

We already know where the Heartless came from, and it had nothing to do with the Unbirths, what does that tell you?
It could mean that the Unbirths, and their fate of extinction, laid the way for new enemies, the Heartless and Nobodies.
Or, the Unbirths inspired the creation of the Heartless.
Until Nomura literally says "The Unbirths become the Heartless", I'll see differently.

 

[Byronic Hero]

We already know where the Heartless came from, and it had nothing to do with the Unbirths, what does that tell you?
It could mean that the Unbirths, and their fate of extinction, laid the way for new enemies, the Heartless and Nobodies.
Or, the Unbirths inspired the creation of the Heartless.
Until Nomura literally says "The Unbirths become the Heartless", I'll see differently.

bruh, he has already.....ya know what nevermind, I'm tired of arguing with you. Let someone else tell you.

 

[WilliamTheWise]

bruh, he has already.....ya know what nevermind, I'm tired of arguing with you. Let someone else tell you.

Tell him what?

 

[Byronic Hero]

Tell him what?

bout Heartless being derived from Unbirths.