Awhile ago for Larxene, Arlene was a popular name.
In fact, I hope it's Arlene. Probably better than the shit they planned for it to be, though.
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Awhile ago for Larxene, Arlene was a popular name.
In fact, I hope it's Arlene. Probably better than the shit they planned for it to be, though.
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Elenar could work for Larxene too.
My theory is this:
Axel, before he was named, had to have given Xemnas a fake name to cover the identity of his Somebody. I don't have the time to type out 20+ pages of a manifesto that my friend put together regarding Axel and his supposed Somebody, but the argument is that Axel and Riku are Somebody/Nobody. Guys and girls, hear me out. If any of you recall, Riku wanted to protect his identity from those he cared for so that they wouldn't learn of his life in darkness; he wore the blindfold, the Organization cloak and very well could have gone by a codename prior to having Ansem's appearance and thereby taking his name.
Basic points of the manifesto:
-The secret side of a human, the side one may want to be yet are afraid to turn into, is a Nobody
-Case 1: Sora is 14 year old kid when he earns title of Keyblade Master, and honestly? Did he want this position at the expense of breaking his relationship with Riku and Kairi? He wouldn't, but the Keyblade chooses its master; so what's he to do?
-The hidden side of Sora: Roxas clearly doesn't want to fight, and would much rather spend summer vacation lounging with friends. Fact.
-Case 2: Kairi is a strong willed Princess of Heart who refuses to be branded a princess. She has to keep up with two island boys and fit in, so lagging behind and acting helpless and girly are not on her list of to-do's.
-The hidden side of Kairi: Namine is timid and not confident in herself. Secretly, she is like the princess atop the tower that Kairi very well could have wanted to be.
-Case 3: Riku was jealous of Sora and appreciated his best friend's talents. He tried to make a point in Sora's face that he was number one. Now, if he showed his approval of Sora's abilities, he wouldn't be so high and mighty, would he? Therefore, he hid this side from the world to protect his powerful persona.
-The hidden side of Riku: Axel is the opposite. He clearly appreciates Roxas's efforts in the Organization, be it sparring, missions, or simply exchanging thoughts atop the clock tower. Axel tells Roxas, more in the novelizations of the games than anywhere else, that he is a good friend. In short, Axel is the side of Riku who didn't want to reveal himself.
Points continued:
-Riku was clearly infatuated with Kairi and displayed acts of chivalry greater than Sora could have ever done in all three games together.
-Axel, while less heroic and passionate in his protective actions, saves Namine in Castle Oblivion and in KHII at least four times--freeing her from Marluxia, freeing her from a locked closet, taking care of her while she isn't with Riku, granting her wish to see Kairi. Similarly, in KHII, rather than harming Kairi as he kidnaps her, he merely takes her arm and pulls her into darkness with no intentions of using force. Why does he open a portal for Sora to go through in Betwixt and Between? For Kairi and Sora's benefit. Call it a way to "make up" for, not only trying to harm Roxas, but for putting Kairi and Sora in harms way. A very Riku-esque thing to do.
-Riku and Axel's eye color are unique to them and only them. Aqua, not green, folks.
-Stature, posture, gesticulation, even hair style (given that Axel's hair be watered down some): all very similar
Just as Riku wanted to hide himself from the world, Axel would want to protect Riku's true identity, and thus give Xemnas a fake name to re-create.
Those are the more important points to the manifesto, and why I say Axel is most definitely NOT "Ale" because he's "hahaha. BEER." And his relation to Reno? Don't even get me started.
Axel, before he was named, had to have given Xemnas a fake name to cover the identity of his Somebody. I don't have the time to type out 20+ pages of a manifesto that my friend put together regarding Axel and his supposed Somebody, but the argument is that Axel and Riku are Somebody/Nobody. Guys and girls, hear me out. If any of you recall, Riku wanted to protect his identity from those he cared for so that they wouldn't learn of his life in darkness; he wore the blindfold, the Organization cloak and very well could have gone by a codename prior to having Ansem's appearance and thereby taking his name.
Basic points of the manifesto:
-The secret side of a human, the side one may want to be yet are afraid to turn into, is a Nobody
-Case 1: Sora is 14 year old kid when he earns title of Keyblade Master, and honestly? Did he want this position at the expense of breaking his relationship with Riku and Kairi? He wouldn't, but the Keyblade chooses its master; so what's he to do?
-The hidden side of Sora: Roxas clearly doesn't want to fight, and would much rather spend summer vacation lounging with friends. Fact.
-Case 2: Kairi is a strong willed Princess of Heart who refuses to be branded a princess. She has to keep up with two island boys and fit in, so lagging behind and acting helpless and girly are not on her list of to-do's.
-The hidden side of Kairi: Namine is timid and not confident in herself. Secretly, she is like the princess atop the tower that Kairi very well could have wanted to be.
-Case 3: Riku was jealous of Sora and appreciated his best friend's talents. He tried to make a point in Sora's face that he was number one. Now, if he showed his approval of Sora's abilities, he wouldn't be so high and mighty, would he? Therefore, he hid this side from the world to protect his powerful persona.
-The hidden side of Riku: Axel is the opposite. He clearly appreciates Roxas's efforts in the Organization, be it sparring, missions, or simply exchanging thoughts atop the clock tower. Axel tells Roxas, more in the novelizations of the games than anywhere else, that he is a good friend. In short, Axel is the side of Riku who didn't want to reveal himself.
Points continued:
-Riku was clearly infatuated with Kairi and displayed acts of chivalry greater than Sora could have ever done in all three games together.
-Axel, while less heroic and passionate in his protective actions, saves Namine in Castle Oblivion and in KHII at least four times--freeing her from Marluxia, freeing her from a locked closet, taking care of her while she isn't with Riku, granting her wish to see Kairi. Similarly, in KHII, rather than harming Kairi as he kidnaps her, he merely takes her arm and pulls her into darkness with no intentions of using force. Why does he open a portal for Sora to go through in Betwixt and Between? For Kairi and Sora's benefit. Call it a way to "make up" for, not only trying to harm Roxas, but for putting Kairi and Sora in harms way. A very Riku-esque thing to do.
-Riku and Axel's eye color are unique to them and only them. Aqua, not green, folks.
-Stature, posture, gesticulation, even hair style (given that Axel's hair be watered down some): all very similar
Just as Riku wanted to hide himself from the world, Axel would want to protect Riku's true identity, and thus give Xemnas a fake name to re-create.
Those are the more important points to the manifesto, and why I say Axel is most definitely NOT "Ale" because he's "hahaha. BEER." And his relation to Reno? Don't even get me started.
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no actually axels name was actually SALEAN, he cut up a few letters for obvious reasons
its obvious to a trained eye, Xion's real name is Oni meaning Demon....
Luxord = Ordul Urdol Druol Droul Rulod Rolud Dulor Dolur Rould Ruold Drulo Drolu Lourd Luord Urold Oruld
im going more with Dolur since it sounds like Dollar....
but then again Urold sounds like Your Old....
Luxord = Ordul Urdol Druol Droul Rulod Rolud Dulor Dolur Rould Ruold Drulo Drolu Lourd Luord Urold Oruld
im going more with Dolur since it sounds like Dollar....
but then again Urold sounds like Your Old....
you must be joking....
saix-well asi, in norse myth is the god of the moon
demyx - edym- japenese mythological water demon(I think)
marluxia- ulmaria is latin for rose
larxene - elenar- japenese mythological lightning demon(I think)
One think I never fully understood, when nomura was nomura the characters,
and designing their names with an anagram wih an x added in, did he make than names
in english first because vexen is ヴィクセン (Vikusen)
and thats not an anagram(I dont know that much japanese, so forgive me if Im wrong)
demyx - edym- japenese mythological water demon(I think)
marluxia- ulmaria is latin for rose
larxene - elenar- japenese mythological lightning demon(I think)
One think I never fully understood, when nomura was nomura the characters,
and designing their names with an anagram wih an x added in, did he make than names
in english first because vexen is ヴィクセン (Vikusen)
and thats not an anagram(I dont know that much japanese, so forgive me if Im wrong)
Suppose A member already has an X in their name. That would make Axel Alex. Although Ale makes a bit more sense since Reno is in love with it.
Waitin for Days. There we´ll get a blowout of Org. XIII information. I´m really excited cause they are all so different and interesting. There they´ll hopefully confirm the other names. btw. i can imagine Axel´s name as Ale as well, cause of Reno´s facts.
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ok i read all of that, and im tired. but what do u pretend with that? to say that axel is riku's nobody? is that ur main subject? well i do agree with u in that. i always thought about that but never thought about doing a manifesto
Well there are a few GAINT problems with that theoru.
1) Riku has never lost his heart, thus rendering that he has NO heartless or nobody
2) Riku's name would have to be an angram of Axel's
3) If Axel was his nobody, that means Riku would have had to lose his heart before Sora did, because Axel joined the Org. before Roxas, so he would have had to have been arounfd longer. same goes for VI-XII.
4) Axel's form would have to resemble Riku's form, as all Nobodies who retain human form do so. Mainly with the eyes, and thye both have different eye color.
5) He would have to be about the same age and height/form as Riku, and he is clearly not a 16 year old or any of those other things.
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ok ur right, there ARE some flaws in his theory, and i recognise them, but how do u explain the fact that nobodies have no feelings and axel likes roxas? they have no feelings alright, but no one have ever said that they had no memories... just because roxas doesnt remember who is real somebody is, it doesnt mean the others dont remember too. roxas was formed in a especial way. especial consequences come from that. understand what i mean?
and about riku not becoming a heartless. well i think that when he turned into the darkness a nobody was formed, and the heartless was that strange riku we fought in the end of KH1... we do know that in games everything is possible.
about the organization member's entrance. u dont know when axel got in the organization, u just know it was before roxas, so its possible. but then it comes the problem of the organization numbers. if i, for some reason was right, it would mean that axel would have got into the org. before demyx, luxord, marluxia and larxene, since the numbers of the membesr r given to them in the order they enter the org. which im sure its not possible, although it could be, since we only know of these members' existence in chain of memories.
and about riku not becoming a heartless. well i think that when he turned into the darkness a nobody was formed, and the heartless was that strange riku we fought in the end of KH1... we do know that in games everything is possible.
about the organization member's entrance. u dont know when axel got in the organization, u just know it was before roxas, so its possible. but then it comes the problem of the organization numbers. if i, for some reason was right, it would mean that axel would have got into the org. before demyx, luxord, marluxia and larxene, since the numbers of the membesr r given to them in the order they enter the org. which im sure its not possible, although it could be, since we only know of these members' existence in chain of memories.
Riku never lost his heart. entire theory is now disproven.
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thx for that. u guys seem to like to ruin theories with few words xD lol just kiddin. ok but this was just an opinion
We're havin a whole discussion about this whole "Ael is Riku's nobody" thing over at the Realtionship between Axel and Riku thread.
If you believe that Axel is Riku's nobody (not directed at you #1 Xemnas, but to the people who do believe)
Then go there. Your theories shall be crushed under the mighty power of factual proof.
Easy. They just don't. I dont see where that came from. And for the record, Axel does not like Roxas, he secretly wants Larxene.
Roxas does remember his somebody is Sora, otherwise he would'nt have known he was there or who he was at TWTNW. And Roxas
wan't formed in any special way, Sora just lost his heart and out popped Roxas, just like any other nobody.
Do you even KNOW anything about the game? When he tunred to the dakrness, Xehanort's Heartless(Namely KH1 Ansem) took control of his body. and that "strange" Riku you fight at Hollow Bastion was that Ansem
That's what "Riku" said before you fight him.
But saying that means he would have to have lost his heart(which he never did) BEFORE sora, and yes, the Org. member's numbers are assigned to them chronologically when the joined.
Study up on KH before you post things like this. There were many holes in it. and ask around-people know their stuff.
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I'd go with Lerane
Elenar is lightning Demon
I didn't know many people knew about that.
Luxord - Luxord's name is an allusion to the casino game Luxor. Casino? Gambling? Get it?
i would also go with Lerane
Well, in the Kingdom Hearts fanfiction fandom, I've heard Lumaria as Marluxia and Myde as Demyx.
Myde is VERY popular. I've seen many fanfics and fanarts alike, with Myde!!
Still, none of this is canon, but it's fun to guess!!! Oh, and if you switch up Xehanort, it spells No Heart, and of course the infamous Xemnas is Man Sex!! XDD
Myde is VERY popular. I've seen many fanfics and fanarts alike, with Myde!!
Still, none of this is canon, but it's fun to guess!!! Oh, and if you switch up Xehanort, it spells No Heart, and of course the infamous Xemnas is Man Sex!! XDD
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