Organization Members lied!!!

[Ranma]

The Organization continuously bragged about how they don't have emotions or feelings, and such. Here's what I think; they're good pretenders. In the opening battle scene for the Final Xemnas fight Xemnas says "Anger and Hate are supreme". I'm pretty sure that 'anger' and 'hatred' are emotions. I think that Nobodies just think that they don't have emotions because they are too sad to dwell over happiness and all of those other "goody-goody" emotions. The thing is that they don't know that they're sad because they don't know what sorrow is!

Anyone else agree with me on this one?

 

[Xephr Darkwind]

The Reason why Xemnas said "Anger & Hate are supreme" is because Xemnas uses what is left of Kingdom Hearts's power to summon the emotions of rage and hatred and take on a new form to fight Sora and his friends

 

[Akans]

Oh really? I thought he said that cause... he was... twisted and messed up XD

 

[Mr. Wilhelm]

Xemnas just thought those are supreme...

Anyway, I am confident they have really a little emotion. Nearly nothing but just enough to explain why the Org XIII can act like that...

 

[Rix]

but it's said that they remember what it was like to have emotions... They remember and that's the reason why they can act like they have emotions.

 

[Mr. Wilhelm]

Without true emotion, at least a little, acting like having those has no sense. For sample, without at least a little emotion, never Marluxia would have acted like he did...

Most of the things they did cannot be done without emotion, faking emotion is because they want to do it, the will to have or do something born in emotion... Everything is bound to emotion.

 

[Rix]

I have also thought about if they actually do have a little emotions, but it has never been confirmed...

Either is it something that Nomura wants us to think about by ourselves or we will find out in future games, maybe in 358/2 days perhaps?

But the fact is that we don't really know yat.

 

[Ranma]

What about Axel? Everyone remembers the scene when Axel faded away, right? "He made me feel like I have a heart. You make me feel the same way", I don't remember if it was Axel or me, but there was a tear in there somewhere too!

Has anyone played CoM? Back when we didn't know that Namine` was a Nobody this would seem meaningless, but I'm certain that she felt fear when Marluxia and Larxene were talking to her. I think that the Nobodies can feel what they remember. Maybe when bbs comes out, we'll learn that Xehanort... whoever that really is... went through a lot of anger and hate. lol....

 

[Rix]

there is also a final mix scene were Axel cries... he is with Roxas in that scene an I have asked myself many times, why should Axel fake his emotions when he is with Roxas?

 

[Ranma]

Yay! Axel does feel sorrow, somewhat!!! I don't think Axel was faking.


YouTube - Axel and Roxas -Scene from KH 2 Final mix-
Here's Axel crying.

 

[Stars]

their hearts are their memories, they remember how it was like.

 

[Kairiangel]

hmm....they do seem to show emotions in a way but I think its because they remember them so something might have felt them. and Xemnes remembers something sometime as Xehanort

 

[Ranma]

Prince of Heart, you worded that wrong. They don't have hearts. Its the memories of their somebody that triggers them to remember. It's just that special bond between the Nobody and the person that ceases to be a Heartless.

 

[Stars]

I never say they have hearts, they remember how was a heart look like

 

[Ranma]

You said that "Their hearts are their memories", They just have a part of their original selve's memories.

 

[Stars]

Then i should put like this>>"hearts"
Lol

 

[Mr. Wilhelm]

Hum, there is more than a mere memories... They have memories, but memories were in the heart like proved in CoM. So, if nobody have memory, from a way, they have at least a little emotion...

 

[Xephr Darkwind]

What I think of this is that the reason why Nobodies show emotion is to trow off their pursuers into thinking that they have emotions so they can mislead their enemies

 

[Dattebayo]

Probably, the whole Org. XIII has other selves, just like Roxas. But, that doesn't mean that those others have to be living, becasue nobodies are like remains.

Anyway, I bet Axel and roxas are the only ones who have "real" emotions, since those two seem to have the purest hearts in the group. In CoM, Zexion was terrified when Replica riku was about to kill him. And since Zexion, along with a few other members, like Xaldin and Xigbar, were assistants to Xehanort. So, we know they really HAD other selves. Xemnas did as well.

And isn't it true that the ones who had other selves that we know about show the most emotion (excluding Axel)? So, I'm thinking that they can take some of the memories from before, and use them into play.

 

[Ranma]

It does seem like (going up from Xemnas) when you get to Sai'x, the first member who wasn't one of Ansem's apprentices when they were their other self... they do begin to seem less emotional... besides axel... and roxas. but xephr... then why did axel cry? unless roxas was truly his enemy? Because... I think he was the only one there