Organization 13, not 14!

[Gabo]

He was using Riku for all of his dirty work, he didn't need XIV.

Riku did grunt work in my opinion.
The Order already knew he wasn't on their side.
He wouldn't have been able to join the Order..

XIV, on the other hand, may have been able to.
Especially if she was a Nobody.

 

[Ordeith]

lawls.
Maybe Riku scattered them :O

I don't even think Riku knew about them. Maybe they got scattered when AtW infiltrated the Castle that Never Was? If so, he was still pretty careless with his so-called "Secret" Reports.

XIV, on the other hand, may have been able to.
Especially if she was a Nobody.

Think about it. XIV is a nobody, and there is a powerful organization exclusive for Nobodies that offers her a chance to get her emotions back, and at the same time, there is an old man dressed as a mummy and a boy who looks like he's in his early forties. Hmmm...pretty tough choice about which side se would join.

 

[Superschlock]

Yeah, but if Ansem knew, hed kill him

 

[Audo]

Riku did grunt work in my opinion.
The Order already knew he wasn't on their side.
He wouldn't have been able to join the Order..

XIV, on the other hand, may have been able to.
Especially if she was a Nobody.

Are you forgetting about Ansem's hatred for Nobodies?

I don't even think Riku knew about them. Maybe they got scattered when AtW infiltrated the Castle that Never Was? If so, he was still pretty careless with his so-called "Secret" Reports.



Think about it. XIV is a nobody, and there is a powerful organization exclusive for Nobodies that offers her a chance to get her emotions back, and at the same time, there is an old man dressed as a mummy and a boy who looks like he's in his early forties. Hmmm...pretty tough choice about which side se would join.

Well, actually Riku didn't look like that until the end of 358...
If we're talking about the Xehanort thing, lol.

 

[Ordeith]

Well, actually Riku didn't look like that until the end of 358...
If we're talking about the Xehanort thing, lol.

Yeah, we're talking about Rikunort. I'm a bit worried if you thought otherwise.

 

[Gabo]

Are you forgetting about Ansem's hatred for Nobodies?

Nope.
But apparently you're thinking a little too much about it.

He used Namine.
If he saw XIV as a tool, he'd use it.

Think about it. XIV is a nobody, and there is a powerful organization exclusive for Nobodies that offers her a chance to get her emotions back, and at the same time, there is an old man dressed as a mummy and a boy who looks like he's in his early forties. Hmmm...pretty tough choice about which side se would join.

Uhm. Why would she try to convince Roxas to leave saying as he'd be one of the most useful tools in getting her emotions back?

And her motives aren't known.

And if she is Aqua, I can see her doing that.

 

[Audo]

Yeah, we're talking about Rikunort. I'm a bit worried if you thought otherwise.

lol, i thought you were making a joke if it wasn't Rikunort.

Nope.
But apparently you're thinking a little too much about it.

He used Namine.
If he saw XIV as a tool, he'd use it.

Yeah, and he wrote about using both Nami, and Riku, and revenge on the Org, and Sora, and revenge, and being banished, and the realm of nothingness.
He wouldn't leave out talking about his second spy. He simply wouldn't, especially since he thinks writing saves his mind or some hog-wash like that.

 

[Ordeith]

He wouldn't leave out talking about his second spy. He simply wouldn't, especially since he thinks writing saves his mind or some hog-wash like that.

I think his mind was already lost by that time.

 

[Gabo]

Yeah, and he wrote about using both Nami, and Riku, and revenge on the Org, and Sora, and revenge, and being banished, and the realm of nothingness.
He wouldn't leave out talking about his second spy. He simply wouldn't, especially since he thinks writing saves his mind or some hog-wash like that.

I'm too stubborn to agree with you.

The member probably wasn't even thought of at the time of KH2's development.
If there was evidence directly saying it wasn't her, then I'd be swayed.
But if theres absolutely nothing about her, then its possible they'd add her in.
I even said I didn't have anything to back it up in that post.
Lol

 

[Audo]

I'm too stubborn to agree with you.

The member probably wasn't even thought of at the time of KH2's development.
If there was evidence directly saying it wasn't her, then I'd be swayed.
But if theres absolutely nothing about her, then its possible they'd add her in.
I even said I didn't have anything to back it up in that post.
Lol

They did add her in. But these things need to be explained by the game.
They can't let her be a spy for DiZ without explaining why he never wrote about her, otherwise they would be retconning themselves, which Nomura doesn't like to do. So it doesn't matter if she was added in, what matters is that she doesn't contradict any info we already know.

 

[Gabo]

They did add her in. But these things need to be explained by the game.
They can't let her be a spy for DiZ without explaining why he never wrote about her, otherwise they would be retconning themselves, which Nomura doesn't like to do. So it doesn't matter if she was added in, what matters is that she doesn't contradict any info we already know.

It wouldn't contradict anything, really.
Theres never been something like 'I haven't had a spy' , 'Riku and Namine were the only ones who helped me' or whatever.

 

[Ordeith]

It wouldn't contradict anything, really.
Theres never been something like 'I haven't had a spy' , 'Riku and Namine were the only ones who helped me' or whatever.

The fact that AtW never mentioned the 14th Member contradicts the theory of her being his spy, smart one.

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[Gabo]

The fact that AtW never mentioned the 14th Member contradicts the theory of her being his spy, smart one.

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Never being mentioned isn't contradicting.

Lucky.My countdown is 59.

 

[Nostalgia]

I just feel feel that she's a spy on her own accord, not necessarily with AtW. At least that would explain why she was never mentioned in his reports.

 

[Gabo]

I just feel feel that she's a spy on her own accord, not necessarily with AtW. At least that would explain why she was never mentioned in his reports.

The reason I'm so deadset on her being Ansem's spy, is because that'd work in with my theory.
xD

 

[lightanddarkness]

ummm i know this is going off yalls subject but ive been lookin at the pictures of the 14th member and everyone says its namine when they have already told us it isnt and plus look at the skin namine is really white the 14th member is tan and look at aqua too she isnt that tan either but i could be wrong because shes in a shadow and stuff i was just throwing that thought out there

 

[The Dark Destiny]

yeah...haha, that makes alot of sense. just kidding, as to who the 14th member is..who knows, for all we know, KH 3 is set 15 years in the future and Sora is the 14th member!

 

[Ordeith]

ummm i know this is going off yalls subject but ive been lookin at the pictures of the 14th member and everyone says its namine when they have already told us it isnt and plus look at the skin namine is really white the 14th member is tan and look at aqua too she isnt that tan either but i could be wrong because shes in a shadow and stuff i was just throwing that thought out there

Great. You've just confirmed somethig we already know. Good job.
(Oh, and please try to use better grammar.)
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[Macabre]

The 14th isn't Namine,she's a completely new character and she might not be Aqua either but there are some good theories about Aqua being the 14th member.

I like the theory of the 14th being AtW's spy.

It makes sense.

 

[Audo]

It wouldn't contradict anything, really.
Theres never been something like 'I haven't had a spy' , 'Riku and Namine were the only ones who helped me' or whatever.

If DiZ, a man who mentions everything about his plan to seek revenge, didn't mention her at all, than that would be contradictory.

The fact that AtW never mentioned the 14th Member contradicts the theory of her being his spy, smart one.

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Exactly.

Never being mentioned isn't contradicting.

Lucky.My countdown is 59.

Yesss it is.

yeah...haha, that makes alot of sense. just kidding, as to who the 14th member is..who knows, for all we know, KH 3 is set 15 years in the future and Sora is the 14th member!

There is soooo many things wrong with that post... Not to mention 358 is in the past...

ummm i know this is going off yalls subject but ive been lookin at the pictures of the 14th member and everyone says its namine when they have already told us it isnt and plus look at the skin namine is really white the 14th member is tan and look at aqua too she isnt that tan either but i could be wrong because shes in a shadow and stuff i was just throwing that thought out there

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