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I'm atheist-agnostic and I suggest religion if you're alone or depressed. Try going to school. You won't have an issue getting a minimum wage job, and bunk with a friend with a steady income. Try online dating or start going out more. If you're artistically inclined do something with that. Write a book, sell paintngs for extra cash. Keep going to school and keep a longterm goal in mind. As long as you're trying there's always hope things will improve. But you have to make the effort.
 

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So would creating an imaginary friend, but we're not encouraging him to do that because it sounds ridiculous.

What sounds ridiculous is implying that faith in Jesus won't do anything for him when time and time again it's helped people >_>

It'd be like saying medication do anything for being sick when time and time again it has proven to do so
 

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What sounds ridiculous is implying that faith in Jesus won't do anything for him when time and time again it's helped people >_>

It saved me from becoming something worse than porn addict. C'mon man.
 

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It saved me from becoming something worse than porn addict. C'mon man.

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I'm saying that it (faith in Jesus) is a proven method that has helped people... you seem to be agreeing with me, yet the way you word it makes it seem like you're disagreeing with me
 

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What sounds ridiculous is implying that faith in Jesus won't do anything for him when time and time again it's helped people >_>

It'd be like saying medication do anything for being sick when time and time again it has proven to do so

Then again, acts of violent - either socially acceptable or otherwise - have proven useful in venting and discarding suppressed frustrations. Psychologically speaking, of course, but suggesting that random acts of violence will ensure rehabilitation of the emotional kind wouldn't be very productive unless the exact issue is thought out carefully.

That is, to say, suggesting religion rather quickly wouldn't do make. Similarly, one may say that suggesting someone to throw buckets of paint on a brick wall to knock it down would be facetious at best.

I have nothing against Jesus or religion - in fact, I am quite a fan of his divine powers to the point where I attempt to turn water into wine every night before bed - but other outlets are available and to quickly throw religion into the fray leaves a bad taste in my mouth; like, say, the taste of week old water.

Why not another religion that isn't so completely mainstream and skewed past the point of recognition compared to its more traditional values?

Like Buddhism!

Buddha's cool!

My point is that why must it be Jesus and not Buddha? Your argument may be something akin to, "I'm not a Buddhist" or other similar statements. But, I'm not a Buddhist as well. In fact, I am an Atheist but I'm not suggesting he follow a similar path in order to find clarity and peace of mind. What may work for millions, or billions, will not work for everyone.
 

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Then again, acts of violent - either socially acceptable or otherwise - have proven useful in venting and discarding suppressed frustrations. Psychologically speaking, of course, but suggesting that random acts of violence will ensure rehabilitation of the emotional kind wouldn't be very productive unless the exact issue is thought out carefully.

That is, to say, suggesting religion rather quickly wouldn't do make. Similarly, one may say that suggesting someone to throw buckets of paint on a brick wall to knock it down would be facetious at best.

I have nothing against Jesus or religion - in fact, I am quite a fan of his divine powers to the point where I attempt to turn water into wine every night before bed - but other outlets are available and to quickly throw religion into the fray leaves a bad taste in my mouth; like, say, the taste of week old water.

Why not another religion that isn't so completely mainstream and skewed past the point of recognition compared to its more traditional values?

Like Buddhism!

Buddha's cool!

My point is that why must it be Jesus and not Buddha? Your argument may be something akin to, "I'm not a Buddhist" or other similar statements. But, I'm not a Buddhist as well. In fact, I am an Atheist but I'm not suggesting he follow a similar path in order to find clarity and peace of mind. What may work for millions, or billions, will not work for everyone.

From a helping the guy out standpoint, were I not Christian I wouldn't see anything wrong with that... However it's not my Christian beliefs that stop me from telling the guy to follow Buddhism or not to follow Christianity, rather the cold facts that point to 1) a creator, and 2) Jesus being such...

I'd challenge anyone who didn't think Christianity was "logical" to read some of these books by Lee Strobel; The Case for Christ, The Case for Faith, and The Case for a Creator... The books themselves lay out the facts, Lee Strobel was originally an atheist but was turned into a Christian by the overwhelming amount of facts... I myself was an atheist, but I've found over the years how silly it is to not believe Jesus is the Son of God. Whether you accept him or not is up to you, but to deny that is silly (In today's world with all the evidence we have)
 

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Well I currently stay with a friend have been for about two years. I go to art school as well. Getting a job will be hard but whatever I guess.
As for religion I dont have one. I mostly live for the moment and whatever goes down goes down, though I do believe in a higher power.
 

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@JustSnilloc: Trust me, if I could then I would read those books. The could help me with a grade in a Philosophy class of mine. But other than facts, there's also facts of the human mentality. Humans are drawn to religion because generally they dislike voids. In the case of religion, the voids of Creation and After Life tend to be filled.

@Juro-Sama: Trust me, I know that it's hard to find a job. But this is a time not to get picky about anything. Even if you have to do something like getting neighbors to pay you to mow their lawns, anything is good. And who knows? Those "clients" could help you to get better jobs in the future. It all depends on you. Try to always have a positive outlook. If something's hard, just tell yourself something like, "Just something else to overcome!" Get yourself pumped up.
 

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Please don't "get into" Christianity if you think it's going to make your life easier lol. It's not.

1 Peter 4:12 - "Beloved, do not be surprised at the fiery trial when it comes upon you to test you, as though something strange were happening to you."

You have to find some goals and work toward them. What do you want out of life?
 

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Well I always wanted to be an artist, mainly for comic books. I want to be able to live life without all this trouble. I want to travel too. I guess my biggest dream is to be an artist but you know what they say, there's no cash in it.


And I totally get I can not be picky about jobs, funny thing is sense this happened my grades have been great haven't seen a bad grade since I entered school again.
 

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well then you have school to be proud of! you probably have lots of other things too! you just gotta look at things in the right perspective.

something i heard recently is that we spend too much time trying to figure out how to make a living and not enough time trying to figure out how to make a life. i think you should stop worrying about money. because whether or not you can get money from art does not determine whether or not you're an artist. you can get money from other places, work lots of different jobs, let your experiences in life be the inspiration for your art.

oh. while i appreciate that people are bringing up religion as a possible way to improve your life, evangelizing on the internet doesn't work. there's a lot of disgruntled cynical youths who generally like to skin you over a fire if you mention it so just save yourself the time and effort and stop. besides, all of that evidence about people doing better after they've become religious kind of implies that the person has come to religion themselves, individually, without being pushed into it as some kind of self-help program.
 
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