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[HotGarbage]

(Actually this is probably more accurate with Ash & Misty in my case.)

Dude I was thinking in post this here in the moment I see this on reddit hahaha guess you was faster.

Well this is my main wish for KH4 I feel like my entire life is waiting for this moment, still can't believe they don't kiss in KH3.

 

[Elysium]

That's a multi-layered joke--I laughed as much thinking we'd only be around 4 games later sixty years from now, lol.* KH does move at the pace of a soap opera. Twenty years could go by and it's only been two days in-universe.

* (But, really, Nomura and I will probably both be dead by 2080. I imagine the world will be unlivable by then between the environment and the food / fuel prices. If every new gen causes the cost to go up 10 dollars, one PS29 game should cost around $330, lol.)

 

[Zackarix]

My attempt at a "Sappho and her friend" meme.

 

[LoneFox]

Some Ephemer/Skuld worth seeing.

 

[Zackarix]

I was finally able to watch Frozen 2 and this song gave me Riku-mourning-for-Sora-after-KH3 feels:

I'm sorry, I know you posted this a few weeks ago, but I keep thinking back to it because I feel like it's a very unfitting take.

The Next Right Thing is about a person who has hit rock bottom, but needs to summon up the strength to finish her quest. Anna believes that her sister is gone but she has to make this one final push despite wanting to curl up and cry.

Post-KH3 Riku has very clearly not given into despair. His quest is to find Sora, not an attempt to finish Sora's work. He's not mourning. Maybe you could argue that he was still in denial stage, but he turned out to be right so not letting grief overtake him was the right response.

 

[Elysium]

I think it's a fine comparison. But I'd say Riku is more like Elsa to Sora's Anna, as far as the personality dynamic goes. I think Sora's reaction to Riku dying at the Keyblade Graveyard, where Sora's lying on the ground crying, would be an even better fit for that song.

 

[Clue.Less]

I'm sorry, I know you posted this a few weeks ago, but I keep thinking back to it because I feel like it's a very unfitting take.

The Next Right Thing is about a person who has hit rock bottom, but needs to summon up the strength to finish her quest. Anna believes that her sister is gone but she has to make this one final push despite wanting to curl up and cry.

Post-KH3 Riku has very clearly not given into despair. His quest is to find Sora, not an attempt to finish Sora's work. He's not mourning. Maybe you could argue that he was still in denial stage, but he turned out to be right so not letting grief overtake him was the right response.

Hmm, I think you missed two things:

1) I think riku does struggle with despair during the year without Sora. Hence this line in the limitcut:
"Riku: But we've been searching everywhere for Sora, and we haven't found a single clue. If he's really out there, don't you think we would have found something by now?"
And I think there's another line about everyone being worried about riku? Like when you talk to fairy godmother?

2) I really enjoy imagining Riku at rock bottom and I may or may not have a whole headcanon/fic about him struggling to believe Sora's going to be okay when weeks and months pass and no-one is finding anything.

I never said Riku was more like Anne or Elsa or that their "quests" were the same. I just liked the lines I quoted and the general mood of the song for Riku.

EDIT:

I think it's a fine comparison. But I'd say Riku is more like Elsa to Sora's Anna, as far as the personality dynamic goes. I think Sora's reaction to Riku dying at the Keyblade Graveyard, where Sora's lying on the ground crying, would be an even better fit for that song.

True!

 

[Seasaltrio]

Listen, I'm not usually a shipper, but I think Roxas and Xion is my favorite pair. Namine is usually the go to ship for Roxas, probably because they are nobodies of Sora and Kairi, so it just fits I guess. Honestly, I think Roxas would have a better relationship with Xion, since they have gone through lots of trials together and are still very good friends. This might just be my opinion because I'm almost finished with 358/2 Days though.
One more thing- Sora is way too good for Kairi. As is every living being ever to exist.
Sorry if you like Kairi.

 

[Zackarix]

Post-KH3 Riku is nowhere near rock bottom, not to the degree that Anna was during The Next Right Thing.

Anna literally spends the first third of the song curled up on the ground and even after she gets up it's clear that every step is taking effort. It's also worth noting that while Elsa's apparent death is most of the cause of Anna's despair, it's not the entire reason. She's lost her parents and it didn't bring her to this level of grief ("I've seen dark before, but not like this.") Anna believes she is truly alone, she mistook Kristoff's proposal attempts for for break-up attempts and she watched the magic fade out of Olaf as he turned into an inanimate pile of snow. Then she realizes that she needs to destroy the dam to bring peace, despite the fact that doing so will destroy her home. That's why she hits rock bottom as opposed to any other level of despair.

Riku isn't alone and he knows it. The rest of the main cast is on the mission to find Sora, even if his contribution is inevitably going to be the only one that matters. The fact that he has hope for Sora and is taken seriously (so it can't be cast as denial) casts an entirely different mood from The Next Right Thing unless you're treating it as as a generic mourning song, which it very much isn't.

In other words, posting your headcanon would help others see the connection you see a lot more than saying that a song represents the general mood of your idea.

 

[Clue.Less]

I still don't understand why you're getting so worked up about this, but okay. I can tag you when I post the story if you want. (I have to say I'm a little scared that you'll flame me if I share them though ^^")

 

[Oracle Spockanort]

I still don't understand why you're getting so worked up about this, but okay. I can tag you when I post the story if you want. (I have to say I'm a little scared that you'll flame me if I share them though ^^")

Oh no I’m already excited for your fic

 

[Zackarix]

Anyone interested in my conspiracy theory? Most of the time when people accuse Tomoco Kanemaki of being a glorified fanfic writer it's because she was able she was able to get her OC Donut Steel canonized. But there's another, more subtle fanficcy element that I think originated with her.

Apparently Kanemaki will sometimes retweet AkuSai content (I have not been able to verify this because I don't know what her account is.) And given how involved she was in writing Days it's entirely possible that she was the one who came up with the idea of their relationship in the first place.

If my theory is true she didn't manage to canonize Axel/Saix, but she did promote it from a rarepair with little basis in canon to a relatively popular ship with a decent foundation in canon. That's an opportunity most rarepair shippers could only dream of.

 

[Absent]

Anyone interested in my conspiracy theory? Most of the time when people accuse Tomoco Kanemaki of being a glorified fanfic writer it's because she was able she was able to get her OC Donut Steel canonized. But there's another, more subtle fanficcy element that I think originated with her.

Apparently Kanemaki will sometimes retweet AkuSai content (I have not been able to verify this because I don't know what her account is.) And given how involved she was in writing Days it's entirely possible that she was the one who came up with the idea of their relationship in the first place.

If my theory is true she didn't manage to canonize Axel/Saix, but she did promote it from a rarepair with little basis in canon to a relatively popular ship with a decent foundation in canon. That's an opportunity most rarepair shippers could only dream of.

I mean its very likely. The novels have so much subtext and events more focused on the Sora and Riku dynamic all the way since the first KH novel so I can vibe with that.

The CoM and KH2 novel have so much heavy handed queer subtext that I truly believe that Kanemaki is pushing the boundaries of what she's allowed. I mean and all of this is more than possible seeing how she already has experience with BL.

 

[Oracle Spockanort]

This is sort of what people should have expected from a BL author. Kanemaki absolutely put in the work to make AkuSai the dominant pairing, but I think people fail to consider the fact that Nomura put her in the position to make this happen in the first place haha

Nomura: Actually the shipper trying to make his rare pairs popular. Nomura ain’t slick. Nomura handpicked a Boys Love light novelist to write his Kingdom Hearts light novels then she was hired to be a scenario writer.

To this day he still lets her write this stuff. Look at the KH Character Files. Kanemaki has Sora and Riku throwing out the common BL novel tropes of “I played the big brother role” “is Riku and I’s relationship like siblings? ???” questioning crap. AkuSai longing is persistent. Also coincides with the decrease in things that would make people interested in Akuroku and a heavy, heavy push in the opposite direction.

I just read a bunch of really, really awful BL novels from the 2000s so I feel like a sudden expert on the subject.

 

[Oracle Spockanort]

Also @Zackarix, I read your headcanon before you deleted it and I like the idea of it and think it is perfect for this thread so please don’t be afraid to share.

 

[palizinhas]

KH2 akusai is fun, they don't have the same depth and weren't going to be as big as The Big One, but the blue-red hair colors, the moon-sun vibes, the fact that their storyline in the game is very tied together (they are the ones who give Sora information, both kidnap Kairi).

If It was her idea to tie their backstory together she absolutely chose the right Org duo to do it to. Absolutely can see why Kh2 would make her ship it.

 

[Elysium]

Honestly, I would've never known all this stuff about how the Axel / Saix pair probably got its start from someone with the novels. The only novel I own is the one for 3D... Maybe I'll check out the CoM and KH2 ones then going by comments above.

It does feel at times like Nomura is the one spurring on the shipping of SoRiku, Axel/Saix, and even Eraqus/Xehanort now (although I'm not as attached to that one as the former two). I'm not sure if that's because he's actually interested in those relationships while knowing that companies like Disney and SE wouldn't allow it to become canon in any scenario, or if he's cynically smart enough to know that queerbaiting often causes fandoms of anime to grow or become super-charged thanks to shipping. Both are possible, I suppose. Either way, the content is nice regardless; I didn't really ship Saix / Axel until after BbS and especially Days--but I didn't see the additional KH2FM scenes until it was released stateside in the 2.5 ReMIX years later--so the writer probably has more responsibility than anyone else in making it. And, on another note, I'm glad Saix in particular is latched onto a popular character like Axel in that way (if they're doing it purposefully) since it probably means the character'll stick around in the spotlight for longer, too.

 

[Oracle Spockanort]

Honestly, I would've never known all this stuff about how the Axel / Saix pair probably got its start from someone with the novels. The only novel I own is the one for 3D... Maybe I'll check out the CoM and KH2 ones then going by comments above.

It does feel at times like Nomura is the one spurring on the shipping of SoRiku, Axel/Saix, and even Eraqus/Xehanort now (although I'm not as attached to that one as the former two). I'm not sure if that's because he's actually interested in those relationships while knowing that companies like Disney and SE wouldn't allow it to become canon in any scenario, or if he's cynically smart enough to know that queerbaiting often causes fandoms of anime to grow or become super-charged thanks to shipping. Both are possible, I suppose. Either way, the content is nice regardless; I didn't really ship Saix / Axel until after BbS and especially Days--but I didn't see the additional KH2FM scenes until it was released stateside in the 2.5 ReMIX years later--so the writer probably has more responsibility than anyone else in making it. And, on another note, I'm glad Saix in particular is latched onto a popular character like Axel in that way (if they're doing it purposefully) since it probably means the character'll stick around in the spotlight for longer, too.

I agree. I feel like he has to know it looks a certain way to a certain audience.

 

[Launchpad]

the way I wholly recognize and headcanon Riku's romantic love for Sora while simultaneously not feeling emotionally invested in the ship itself.

extended: I guess I like what that dynamic does for Riku without having to imagine Sora reciprocating Riku's feelings, which I really don't think he does/would. Riku makes Sora his ideal while also striving to protect him/give him hope. Riku's love for Sora doesn't need to be rewarded by Sora loving him back in order for it to have value or a positive yield.

 

[Absent]

I just read a bunch of really, really awful BL novels from the 2000s so I feel like a sudden expert on the subject.

Listen I was there too, we were victims not experts. 2000s BLs are either trauma inducing or comfort material, no middle ground.

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