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Official Shipping Discussion | ships ahoy | fav Sora ship that doesn't involve Riku or Kairi



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To be fair I think he generally doesn't like females shipped with " Getting The Love and Attention she deserves in canon", potential exception being Aqua.
No, no. Kairi and now especially Naminè are on a different level.

Kairi only got saved because fans finally complained after the atrocious handling of her character in III. And it's not like Nomura isn't aware that Naminè is the castaway on a meta level. He knows, and yet did nothing to fix that issue other than an optional dead star. Had her coming in at the very end only to be involved in some Riku Replica stuff that suddenly matters to her because Nomura got a boner for another male character on an arc that's apart from everyone else. Nevermind the fact that she has other connections that were more prominent and built up on to resolve.

Yeah, the Kairi wants to save Naminé is probably the plotline they dropped that I was most saddened by. Kairi finally had a goal in mind that didn't involve Sora and it was ignored.

I honestly want those two to become close like sisters, feel they could both benefit from each other. I guess Naminé and Kairi would be a pairing I'd friend-Ship.
It's just amazing to like know that it was right there, the chance for Kairi to develop into her own character that isn't about Sora was right there, and he simply dropped the ball via having her killed off to give Sora "angst" and having him go save her because he wuvs her so much.

Kairi/Naminè need more. It was nice how in the little we saw of them interact in II, Naminè followed Kairi's lead in raising her fists to fight off Saïx. Meaning Kairi can be a great influence on her being more assertive [and reckless...]. Not that Naminè wasn't on that path already but it helps having a role model.
 
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It's just amazing to like know that it was right there, the chance for Kairi to develop into her own character that isn't about Sora was right there, and he simply dropped the ball via having her killed off to give Sora "angst" and having him go save her because he wuvs her so much.

Kairi/Naminè need more. It was nice how in the little we saw of them interact in II, Naminè followed Kairi's lead in raising her fists to fight off Saïx. Meaning Kairi can be a great influence on her being more assertive [and reckless...]. Not that Naminè wasn't on that path already but it helps having a role model.
Not just a role model, but someone in her corner supporting her growth and encouraging it.

Even worse is the fact that after Re:Mind, when they were coming up with the concept of MoM, they dropped it again. It's Melody of Memory and they chose for the RG research team to help Kairi instead of you know Naminé. Not like Memories are her thing or anything.
I might be wrong but Naminé seemed like the perfect character to help Kairi confront her past and learn about it.
 

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Oy vey…I pray the next poll better not be Roxas-centric.

Anyway, let’s not be fixated on one or another character. This is a shipping thread after all. The schematics of certain characters’ births and power outputs are already there, but they’re living dolls now separate from their “original models,” so it doesn’t matter if it’s twincest, narcissism, not-incest, what have you. It never really bothered me anyway when I was a shipper.

Anybody get the feeling Elrena followed Lauriam because she had a crush?
 

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Not just a role model, but someone in her corner supporting her growth and encouraging it.

Even worse is the fact that after Re:Mind, when they were coming up with the concept of MoM, they dropped it again. It's Melody of Memory and they chose for the RG research team to help Kairi instead of you know Naminé. Not like Memories are her thing or anything.
I might be wrong but Naminé seemed like the perfect character to help Kairi confront her past and learn about it.
I'm still wondering how is it that Kairi's narrating other people's memories that aren't her own. Unless it's separate from the cut scenes and it's more meta than anything else.

It's heavily implied Naminè lives in Twilight Town, so it's probably because she's busy there. But just because she's in another world doesn't mean Kairi can't connect or talk to her. If they don't interact at all that's another missed opportunity. At least by Gummi phone Nomura >.>.

We need Kairi/Naminè.
 

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Anybody get the feeling Elrena followed Lauriam because she had a crush?
I think that's what KH3 was going for, but I don't really want it. Elrena/Lauriam is my second favorite Larxene ship after Elrena/Strelitzia, but like. I don't need it to be canon, and I'm not into the idea that Larxene's actions were motivated by Twue Wuv.
 

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Anybody get the feeling Elrena followed Lauriam because she had a crush?
What they did to Larxene still triggers the hell out of me. It doesn't even have to be a crush, just the implication that her motivation was because of a man at all is practically the most sexist crap Nomura has done yet in this series.

Although fridging Kairi might want a word.
 

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I'm still wondering how is it that Kairi's narrating other people's memories that aren't her own. Unless it's separate from the cut scenes and it's more meta than anything else.

It's heavily implied Naminè lives in Twilight Town, so it's probably because she's busy there. But just because she's in another world doesn't mean Kairi can't connect or talk to her. If they don't interact at all that's another missed opportunity. At least by Gummi phone Nomura >.>.

We need Kairi/Naminè.
Considering how Nomura is, I wouldn't be surprised if it turns out either Kairi had the ability to do memory-stuff all along as part of her PoH package and Naminé's powers are actually a nerfed version of that being limited only to Sora, or Kairi might have gotten Naminé's powers after she returned to her by 2 and she kept those innate abilities after (kinda like how Sora learned how to skateboard because Roxas had that ability programmed into his data self by DiZ).
 

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No kissing. I think the farthest a canon couple will go will be handholding or hugging. Or just eat a papou fruit together
 

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Kissing is fine in fandom works, but I'd rather not have anything of the such in canon. Makes it hard to ignore shipping stuff for those who aren't very much into it, as well as raising the bar for what pairings are considered "officially supported" or not.

Even the most pushed ships after SoKai, XehaEraq, could get a Paopu sharing scene in the future but their canonicity would be debated if SoKai get a kissing scene in the future.
 

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Kissing.

Someone here mentioned that KH3 was so kissless, that even the Disney couples aren’t kissing anymore. Original characters, I can understand, because Nomura can’t write a romance well, but now even the canon Disney couples are taking a hit.
 

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Considering how Nomura is, I wouldn't be surprised if it turns out either Kairi had the ability to do memory-stuff all along as part of her PoH package and Naminé's powers are actually a nerfed version of that being limited only to Sora, or Kairi might have gotten Naminé's powers after she returned to her by 2 and she kept those innate abilities after (kinda like how Sora learned how to skateboard because Roxas had that ability programmed into his data self by DiZ).
I would legitimately hate this so darn much if it happened, would definitely confirm that Nomura hates Naminé. Offtopic but I'm getting so tired of NaMiNé iSn'T a FiGhTeR oF cOuRsE sHe HaS nO rOLe when she's got an interesting and unique power that could be utilised right flipping there.

Back on topic though, I really can't see a kiss happening tbh. I mean after all this time Sokai is obviously a thing but they're being so vague and wishy washy about it that there's wiggle room for those who don't like the ship to debate it. The paopu scene should've been confirmation but even that was done kinda weirdly. I'm drawing a blank here, but don't even most of the Disney couples not kiss? Besides the obligatory lip press to bring you back from the dead thing that Snow White and Aurora have going, I can't recall any other actual kisses, at least those are the only ones in the 2.8 credits
 

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Cindy didn’t even get a kiss, just Snow White and Rory.

Honestly I don’t even mind if the original characters don’t kiss, but if it’s the Disney canon, at least get it right. It’s not like it’s tentacle porn that plagues the stores of Akihabara. Just a kiss, from already established family-friendly characters, at least.

One time off-topic, Noivern, what is that anime on your profile and signature?
 

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I don't care either way for kissing. It's more than likely going to be Sora and Kairi, and I am not invested in them. The only thing that would give me a reaction would be the mere fact that it really happened.

I don't believe Nomura will do it, objectively speaking.

Considering how Nomura is, I wouldn't be surprised if it turns out either Kairi had the ability to do memory-stuff all along as part of her PoH package and Naminé's powers are actually a nerfed version of that being limited only to Sora, or Kairi might have gotten Naminé's powers after she returned to her by 2 and she kept those innate abilities after (kinda like how Sora learned how to skateboard because Roxas had that ability programmed into his data self by DiZ).
If that's the case, I left the series at the right time. I'll still feel that way anyway but there's a certain strength that comes with detachment. Let's wait to see how they handle MoM. If Kairi suddenly has memory powers, that is beyond ridic.
 

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Fiiine, I’ll bite and join the Naminé development brigade, but just this once, then we’re back in topic.

I mentioned it long ago in my old profile, but it’s interesting to note that darkness was in Kairi’s heart, at least indirectly. Remember, Naminé as a Nobody has default ability to use dark powers, such as opening a Corridor. When she fused back with Kairi, there was indeed a time Kairi technically had darkness in her heart. However, I think mostly that it was enveloped in some protective bubble or something to prevent contaminating Kairi’s purity. She also has excellent command of the light, but that’s beside the point.
 

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I vote kiss because I want Lea to kiss Aqua and she’d be so flustered she’d probably beat him up while Ventus and Roxas laugh their twin asses off.
 

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I vote kiss... IN FANDOM.

Seriously, I spent a whole day in July looking up SoRiku fic to soothe my aching soul and the best written ones had ZERO. FRICKING. KISS. What is wrong with this fandom? Even the "First Kiss" tag has a ridiculously little number of entries. Just...

Okay, end rant.

It's interesting, though.

And I still vote kiss for canon, too. Something simple and clear. FFX was great, you can do it, Square. Preferably shorter and without the music because we're not in this game for the romance. But show some affection. Gimme a SoKai kiss under the rain in Shibuya or something. They deserve it.

PS: Not enough kisses but I did find a number of takes on "Hey so Riku is Sora's Dream Eater... so... does that mean his eyes change color when you scratch his head or give him cookies? 👀Why yes, yes it does, and I'm gonna sell it to ya!"

I love you, fanfic writers <3
 

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I vote kiss... IN FANDOM.

Seriously, I spent a whole day in July looking up SoRiku fic to soothe my aching soul and the best written ones had ZERO. FRICKING. KISS. What is wrong with this fandom? Even the "First Kiss" tag has a ridiculously little number of entries. Just...

Okay, end rant.

It's interesting, though.

And I still vote kiss for canon, too. Something simple and clear. FFX was great, you can do it, Square. Preferably shorter and without the music because we're not in this game for the romance. But show some affection. Gimme a SoKai kiss under the rain in Shibuya or something. They deserve it.

PS: Not enough kisses but I did find a number of takes on "Hey so Riku is Sora's Dream Eater... so... does that mean his eyes change color when you scratch his head or give him cookies? 👀Why yes, yes it does, and I'm gonna sell it to ya!"

I love you, fanfic writers <3
Those DE Riku fic are so good

soriku kiss revolution plz
 
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