Not a theory but an idea about the unbirths

[Qarx]

Karate is like that, you should know by now...

Idea or not it's one of the most intelligent things I've heard out of this section in days.

Yes, I should, but... oh, well. I can't help myself, I suppose. It just bugs me a little, that's all. The other sites I visit threaten to ban people for flaming, and I've seen it happen, so I try to be courteous when I post. Therefore, when a guy comes and posts a flaming comment, it just annoys me.
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Indeed, it's made rather well. Not to mention he actually knows how to use the Shift key and punctuate well.

 

[Genocide]

You sure are rude. I was talking theories, not everything. I would flame you back, but I'm just not that impolite.

Then don't say everything is possible. Even still, everything isn't possible.

There's absolutely NO chance of Riku Replica coming back to life then he and Riku run train on Xion

Yes, I should, but... oh, well. I can't help myself, I suppose. It just bugs me a little, that's all. The other sites I visit threaten to ban people for flaming, and I've seen it happen, so I try to be courteous when I post. Therefore, when a guy comes and posts a flaming comment, it just annoys me.
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Indeed, it's made rather well. Not to mention he actually knows how to use the Shift key and punctuate well.

1. You do realize that I wasn't flaming you right? Apparently not.
2. I was not flaming.
3. If you feel as if I'm flaming you or anyone else, ignore it. Because half the time, I'm not.

So don't cop a tude.

kthnxbai. ^_^

 

[Axie]

everything isn't possible.

Does Nomura know this?

Cuz I don't know if I know he knows.

 

[Qarx]

Then don't say everything is possible. Even still, everything isn't possible.

There's absolutely NO chance of Riku Replica coming back to life then he and Riku run train on Xion



1. You do realize that I wasn't flaming you right? Apparently not.
2. I was not flaming.
3. If you feel as if I'm flaming you or anyone else, ignore it. Because half the time, I'm not.

So don't cop a tude.

kthnxbai. ^_^

I guess I'm just ignorant. I don't usually read/hear profanities without it meaning something exceedingly negative (i.e. flaming) so I guess I should ignore it more like you say.
And I wasn't "copping a tude". It was meant to sound like a gentlemen. Guess I typed it poorly or something. I'm not good at this sort of thing or whatever.

 

[Axie]

I guess I'm just ignorant. I don't usually read/hear profanities without it meaning something exceedingly negative (i.e. flaming) so I guess I should ignore it more like you say.
And I wasn't "copping a tude". It was meant to sound like a gentlemen. Guess I typed it poorly or something. I'm not good at this sort of thing or whatever.

Everything's frostier in text. For what it's worth, I thought you sounded mature.

But I know the first part of Karate's post was directed at me, and I deserve any crap I catch.

 

[#1 Xemnas]

i like this. it doesn't propose a stupid idea. it is actually, dare i say, smart?

DS being an ultimate sounds good too.

 

[rikufan06]

ok i got something that just kame t mind

ok um idk if this came up already but who thinks that the rebirth of riku might be related to the unbirths

where im getting at with this is that ,ok, all the titles of kingdom hearts have someting to do with the games right?
but
i think that the rebirth of CoM might be a game of its own without having to do something with sora
ok maybe it has to do with alot
but maybe the game was named rebirth for reason especially for riku
maybe for some reason riku might of have been reborn and might actually have to do something with the unbirths or something like being reborn but not completly
not to point where he is complete remember when the king said to riku something about ive seen the power of light and darkness but not together at the same time. or something like that
ok now what if the darkness can not alow him to be complete with or wthout him like no matter what riku will be in some deep crap
well at the end of kh 2 where riku could not command the darkness anymore because of how he got rid of his ansem body and got his own back
like he could go back and forth to ansem and riku but used to it to an extent where he could not change back because his body was lost once more to the darkness because he "killed it off"
but yeah this goes back all the way to coM, right?
that was when he awoke in that blank dream like stage at the very begining of rebirth
but also know that it said reverse/rebirth
well whats the reverse process of rebirth
and no not the opposite the opposite of birth would be death
ok so what is a reverse rebirth
MAYBE
unbirth
or idk
any ideas anyone

 

[Qarx]

Two words:
PUNCTUATION, CAPITALISATION, SPELLING.

EDIT: LOL Philotetes reference.

 

[Superschlock]

Correction: Philoctetes

 

[shadowred3]

wow i noticed the irony of the heartless with hearts and nobodys with bodys but the unbirths i did not see. thats why its called birth by sleep.it all makes sense exept for 1 thing. what happened to them? if they were still around wouldnt they be in kh1 and 2


and zexion will return!!!!!!

 

[Qarx]

wow i noticed the irony of the heartless with hearts and nobodys with bodys but the unbirths i did not see. thats why its called birth by sleep.it all makes sense exept for 1 thing. what happened to them? if they were still around wouldnt they be in kh1 and 2


and zexion will return!!!!!!

Are you going to say that in EVERY thread you post in?

And, thanks for correcting my spelling. Wasn't sure if I got it, and it wasn't in my dictionary lol.

 

[Iridium]

wow i noticed the irony of the heartless with hearts and nobodys with bodys but the unbirths i did not see. thats why its called birth by sleep.it all makes sense exept for 1 thing. what happened to them? if they were still around wouldnt they be in kh1 and 2

If the irony was a snake it would have bit you.

Yup play one words, funny really.

Well the whole concept about birth by sleep isn't well known, though the term unbirth has something to do with sleep or some type of birth (as mentioned previously). The reason as to why they are extinct isn't known yet either but since they are the precursors to the heartless and nobodies they are the decedents of the unbirths. Implying the way they are created isn't used or is obsolete.

Lets just wait for the game ;D

and zexion will return!!!!!!

n00b please.

 

[Shadow Song]

re-
Prefix (re-):means "back" or "again"
EX: react (prefix + root):"do back"

1. to act in response to something
2. to act in opposition to something


un- 1
pref. 1. Not: unhappy
2. Opposite of; contrary to: unrest

un- 2 prefix forming verbs
1. denoting reversal of an action or state: uncover, untie
2. denoting removal from, release, or deprivation: unharness

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So basically, Reverse/Rebirth just means Riku was "born again," possibly referring to Repliku, or possibly referring to his acceptance of darkness. Regardless, Repliku is probably completely, entirely, wholely unrelated to unbirths.

Now, unbirths, on the other hand...seeing the above definition, one would ONLY have to assume that "unbirths" are "the opposite of birth" or most likely....DEATHS! When death happens, the soul leaves the body, as said in one of the Secret Ansem Reports. So, unbirths may be the product of death. Just a quick, basic, highly flammable theory.

As for the whole paradox thing...that's what I've been wondering for a while. Heartless are "those without hearts" and yet...they have one...or ARE one....er...yeah. So that means unbirths "are" a birth? I guess? Maybe? Not really? Watevs. :blink:

So...critisim? flames? cupcakes? death wishes?

 

[Byronic Hero]

Unbirths created by death and a lost Soul you say? I cant flame it, so Its plauseable.

 

[Athaydea]

as said before .. one of the most intelligent things ive heard as of late .. makes sense .. well thought .. kudos

 

[Qarx]

re-
Prefix (re-):means "back" or "again"
EX: react (prefix + root):"do back"

1. to act in response to something
2. to act in opposition to something


un- 1
pref. 1. Not: unhappy
2. Opposite of; contrary to: unrest

un- 2 prefix forming verbs
1. denoting reversal of an action or state: uncover, untie
2. denoting removal from, release, or deprivation: unharness

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So basically, Reverse/Rebirth just means Riku was "born again," possibly referring to Repliku, or possibly referring to his acceptance of darkness. Regardless, Repliku is probably completely, entirely, wholely unrelated to unbirths.

Now, unbirths, on the other hand...seeing the above definition, one would ONLY have to assume that "unbirths" are "the opposite of birth" or most likely....DEATHS! When death happens, the soul leaves the body, as said in one of the Secret Ansem Reports. So, unbirths may be the product of death. Just a quick, basic, highly flammable theory.

As for the whole paradox thing...that's what I've been wondering for a while. Heartless are "those without hearts" and yet...they have one...or ARE one....er...yeah. So that means unbirths "are" a birth? I guess? Maybe? Not really? Watevs. :blink:

So...critisim? flames? cupcakes? death wishes?

Textbook definition! Very nice.

 

[Axie]

un- 1
pref. 1. Not: unhappy
2. Opposite of; contrary to: unrest

So that's ONE way--"unbirth," which could be like you said, death--or maybe Nomura's come up with something more complicated or specific. Death isn't an exact opposite of birth, in a way (depends on how you look at it).

un- 2 prefix forming verbs
1. denoting reversal of an action or state: uncover, untie
2. denoting removal from, release, or deprivation: unharness

Isn't this a possibility too--that they could be "unborn?" As in, not left unborn, but actually physically taken backwards through birth. The name would have a different meaning in reference to the being, but that's been the case already: Heartless have hearts, which is a direct contradiction, but the word "Nobody" doesn't imply that the individual actually has "no body" (just no identity).

Now, unbirths, on the other hand...seeing the above definition, one would ONLY have to assume that "unbirths" are "the opposite of birth" or most likely....DEATHS! When death happens, the soul leaves the body, as said in one of the Secret Ansem Reports. So, unbirths may be the product of death. Just a quick, basic, highly flammable theory.

Definitely a possibility. The only problem I have with it is that people still die (whether we see them do it or not), and we haven't seen any Unbirths in KH1-2. Meaning that, if that's the case, it's probably got an extra step somewhere to actually have an Unbirth involved.

Haha, we know so little about these things that I don't know if much is flammable right now. @_@

 

[#1 Xemnas]

re-
Prefix (re-):means "back" or "again"
EX: react (prefix + root):"do back"

1. to act in response to something
2. to act in opposition to something


un- 1
pref. 1. Not: unhappy
2. Opposite of; contrary to: unrest

un- 2 prefix forming verbs
1. denoting reversal of an action or state: uncover, untie
2. denoting removal from, release, or deprivation: unharness

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So basically, Reverse/Rebirth just means Riku was "born again," possibly referring to Repliku, or possibly referring to his acceptance of darkness. Regardless, Repliku is probably completely, entirely, wholely unrelated to unbirths.

Now, unbirths, on the other hand...seeing the above definition, one would ONLY have to assume that "unbirths" are "the opposite of birth" or most likely....DEATHS! When death happens, the soul leaves the body, as said in one of the Secret Ansem Reports. So, unbirths may be the product of death. Just a quick, basic, highly flammable theory.

As for the whole paradox thing...that's what I've been wondering for a while. Heartless are "those without hearts" and yet...they have one...or ARE one....er...yeah. So that means unbirths "are" a birth? I guess? Maybe? Not really? Watevs. :blink:

So...critisim? flames? cupcakes? death wishes?

good job. you've actually done your research, it would seem.