New KH Enemy Symbol

[Yannis]

Yes, might being the operative word there

What you mean? This symbol seems pretty random. Where have we seen it? Only in one enemy´s belly. Not anywhere else.

Im not saying that it is not or it is, just saying the fact that it has been seen only on one enemy. Not like on D.S. or something.

 

[*~NeoAdamus~*]

welcome back Yannis, and yeah maybe, but all in all that emblem to me just looks....................incredibly cheap

 

[Yannis]

welcome back Yannis, and yeah maybe, but all in all that emblem to me just looks....................incredibly cheap

Yes and how are they excepting fans to draw such a complex symbol? It is very hard to draw and I see only little logic in it. It is just lines tied together. Like you said, it´s cheap!:closedeyes:

 

[Noo Monkey]

Well, the Heartless symbol was a heart with a cross through it. The Nobody symbol was male genitalia with a couple of arrows coming out the side. So it makes sense that the next symbol would be a cheap 10 minute job with a bow tie on it.

 

[bryanandhallie]

Well, the Heartless symbol was a heart with a cross through it. The Nobody symbol was male genitalia with a couple of arrows coming out the side. So it makes sense that the next symbol would be a cheap 10 minute job with a bow tie on it.

Lol, it would seem SE is delving into anatomy now... Agreed it does look cheap sofar, the bugles I like, but the bow thingy im not so sure about. Maybe we will all like it compleatly once we figure out what it is about, some deep inner reasoning that makes perfect sence.... oooooor it could be just random

I would like to think that we will be dumbfounded by the reasoning... wether it be good or bad

 

[Xeon{Myroku}]

Sicne we're talking about emblems. I was wondering, since most Heartless weren't wearing these emblems. I also thought did most of the Nobodies didn't wear these symbols, but I guess they were put on them as well from Xemnes who is the master of the nobodies. So the question is now who created the emblem for these new guys. Could it have been Master Xeharnort? Ansem seeker of Darkness (Xeharnorts Heartless) and Xemnes both created the emblems like you guys said.

So Master Xeharnort must have made these new emblems for these old but new enemies. I said old because BBS is based ten years ago so its old to the characters in it. But still new to us and probably the characters in KH3.

 

[bryanandhallie]

Sicne we're talking about emblems. I was wondering, since most Heartless weren't wearing these emblems. I also thought did most of the Nobodies didn't wear these symbols, but I guess they were put on them as well from Xemnes who is the master of the nobodies. So the question is now who created the emblem for these new guys. Could it have been Master Xeharnort? Ansem seeker of Darkness (Xeharnorts Heartless) and Xemnes both created the emblems like you guys said.

So Master Xeharnort must have made these new emblems for these old but new enemies. I said old because BBS is based ten years ago so its old to the characters in it. But still new to us and probably the characters in KH3.

Im confused by what you mean by most heartless weren't wearing the emblems. Most almost all but a very few pure heartless were wearing the symbol thats xehanort created, as for the nobody's emblem it is possible that xehanort created the emblem but you never find a nobody development plant like you do the heartless. My guess is that the symbol is inhearant to all nobodys whos hearts werent strong enough for them to retain their human form. The nobody emblem would then be created by a higher being that existed before xehanort because just like heartless, nobodys had to have existed well before xehanort was even born

As for the new creatures it could be the same as the nobodys in the respect that Xehanort had nothing to do with it, or either he did. Even though that statement is a big DUHHHHHHH statement pointing it out is the purpose of explaining it. Mearly that xehanort may NOT have had anything to do with it.

Lol, I guess where im leading to is some sort of "Intelligent Design" in the universe of Kingdom Hearts

Kami Nomura Ka?

 

[*~NeoAdamus~*]

Im confused by what you mean by most heartless weren't wearing the emblems. Most almost all but a very few pure heartless were wearing the symbol thats xehanort created, as for the nobody's emblem it is possible that xehanort created the emblem but you never find a nobody development plant like you do the heartless. My guess is that the symbol is inhearant to all nobodys whos hearts werent strong enough for them to retain their human form. The nobody emblem would then be created by a higher being that existed before xehanort because just like heartless, nobodys had to have existed well before xehanort was even born

As for the new creatures it could be the same as the nobodys in the respect that Xehanort had nothing to do with it, or either he did. Even though that statement is a big DUHHHHHHH statement pointing it out is the purpose of explaining it. Mearly that xehanort may NOT have had anything to do with it.

Lol, I guess where im leading to is some sort of "Intelligent Design" in the universe of Kingdom Hearts

Kami Nomura Ka?

Wrong, Xehanort is responsible for creating the first heartless after overlapping darkness in experimenting of the heart. It led to the first pure heartless which then began duplicating. He then took a heartless and began to artificially duplicate them with an emblem as an insignia.

Nobodies are also the result of a heartless but only rarely, born from the strongest hearts. Case in point, Xehanort is responsible for the heartless and the nobodies

 

[Regret]

The picture from the game doesnt look like much of a heart to me, and thats why i sticked with the bow idea. I dont really like he bow idea too much, i like the heart one, but im trying to replicate the heart idea. If you want me to ill redo the top to look like a heart just for hahas. Maybe that will be a closer version

Well thats what I took out from the picture you posted, to me it looked like the corners are a bit curved, although we could chalk it up to a fat heartless, I was just putting it out there cause all the symbols have hearts in them. I think it would be fine if you did one for ha ha's but you don't have to, artistic license FTW. I guess the only way to find out is when a clear picture comes, But I bet yours will be pretty darn close.

 

[wisdom&valor]

Ooh nice job,It looks very similar

 

[*~NeoAdamus~*]

It is good but if you take a closer look the pic is a little off from the symbol presented here

There is an actual heart in the middle of the symbol. is doesn't morph into to having a slightly rounded tips at the top

 

[Xeon{Myroku}]

Yeah now that I look at this clip. I see the other two enemies are not wearing that symbol like their buddy is in the middle of the clip. I don't get why some these enemies are not really wearing or baring out these emblems. I don't really get it.

 

[Joaxshu]

well it could be similar to way some heartless have their embelm and some dont

 

[bryanandhallie]

Wrong, Xehanort is responsible for creating the first heartless after overlapping darkness in experimenting of the heart. It led to the first pure heartless which then began duplicating. He then took a heartless and began to artificially duplicate them with an emblem as an insignia.

Nobodies are also the result of a heartless but only rarely, born from the strongest hearts. Case in point, Xehanort is responsible for the heartless and the nobodies

I dont think this is the case, I think heartless existed well before ansem started studying them.

However from the second ansem report

"Some time later, I went below and was greeted by the strangest sight. Creatures that seemed born of darkness... What are they? Are they truly sentient beings? Could they be the shadows of those who lost their hearts in my experiments?"

it seems to verify your claim. but I think that there must have been occurances well before ansem that enabled heartless to be born

 

[bryanandhallie]

Allright, I edited the symbol to look more like a heart and less like a bowtie thingy, its not perfect because I made it in haste. Any new ideas for the design and I'll implement them

 

[*~NeoAdamus~*]

I dont think this is the case, I think heartless existed well before ansem started studying them.

However from the second ansem report

"Some time later, I went below and was greeted by the strangest sight. Creatures that seemed born of darkness... What are they? Are they truly sentient beings? Could they be the shadows of those who lost their hearts in my experiments?"

it seems to verify your claim. but I think that there must have been occurances well before ansem that enabled heartless to be born

Wrong again, as stated by Nomura, heartless didn't exist in BBS or before then. They didn't exist until the studies of the heart. As stated by Xemnas, he taunts or much rather makes fun of Ansem and claims that he is in fact the source of all heartless.

Now darkness has always existed but not heartless. They are only a form of darkness, if this suits better their maybe more forms of darkness or a basis to the form of darkness...........i think that made sense?

 

[bryanandhallie]

Shweet, now I gotta go and do my research again... thanks for clarifying

 

[*~NeoAdamus~*]

Allright, I edited the symbol to look more like a heart and less like a bowtie thingy, its not perfect because I made it in haste. Any new ideas for the design and I'll implement them

from what i can depict from the image i have given the heart actually lies within the triangle. It doesn't make a heart to look somewhat like a bowtie

 

[bryanandhallie]

Oh shoot, I see what you mean by the heart on the inside. But what are the things at the top?

 

[*~NeoAdamus~*]

you know the V at the top of the heart. You know how traditional drawing of a heart curves into a valley at the top. The spikes cross at the valley of the heart intertwining into sort of an X across the heart