My theory about the new enemies

[JH]

Well, Nomura said that since we know that the Heartless are the heart and the Nobodies are the body and soul, we should be able to figure out what the new enemy is.

I believe that the enemy is the mind.

The mind is the only thing left over. It obviously doesn't go to the nobodies or heartless considering they aren't all that bright. Unless of course you have a strong heart and go into the Org or something. In that case you get to keep your mind.

This would also work with all the theories about memory, because memory is of the mind.

Discuss.

 

[Charlie K]

He said it isn't the Heartless or a Nobody, he said it was a completely new enemy. But the mind, I HIGHLY doubt it. No offence to you.

 

[JH]

What are your reasons for doubting it?

 

[Nintandy]

Head over to the Heartless topic, I posted something you might find useful .

 

[Phalinx]

I think you have a good theory. After all, a HUGE concept in KH is Oblivion. The literal definition of oblivion is the complete loss of memory. And sense memory loss and Oblivion are reoccuring themes, the mind obviously plays a big part.

I support this theory.. for great justice.

 

[Leonard]

If it were the mind, just imagine a brain with two legs and two arms >.>

Nah, just kidding, I think I understand what you're trying to say and think what you're talking about is pretty much what the soul is: the concience and the person itself, the "thinking part" with all the personalities, the person without heart and body

 

[fantasygurl1227]

you bring up a good point, the mind is a good theory, but do not forget about the soul either, it's between the mind or the soul, i would say it has to be based on one of the two

 

[V.A.T.13]

But the ansem report starts that in the KH world, a living being is made up of the Heart, Body, and Soul. :/

 

[JH]

Souls are nobodies. They are the body and soul.
Hearts are the heartless.
Which means that the mind is left, which proves my theory.

If that Ansem report is right of course.

 

[fantasygurl1227]

so it is more likely that they are going to have something to do with the mind i guess...

 

[JH]

THE SOUL IS THE NOBODY.

God.

 

[Phalinx]

THE SOUL IS THE NOBODY.

God.

No.. read Ansem's Reports again.

The Nobody is the body left behind when the Heart is engulfed in darkness.

 

[JH]

Yes. The body AND soul.

If its not that, then everyone has been lieing to me.

 

[Phalinx]

No, from what I remember, it is just the body. But it appears to have a soul because of its higher level of thinking. Nobodies exist in complete societies, where Heartless are mere scavangers.

 

[V.A.T.13]

Sorry but, a Nobody is the body + Soul.
JakeH: How can that prove your theory when the mind hasn't even been mentioned? Reports say "body, heart, soul" and thats it. The mind would probably go into the soul or body catagory.

 

[SzC]

Your theory is wrong, sorry.
A creature (human, heartless, nobody) is made from some of these elements - body, soul or heart. There is nothing else to it. As I wrote in another thread, the mind is probably in the body. More precisely - in the brain.

THERE IS ONLY HEART, SOUL and BODY. Nothing else.

 

[Phalinx]

Sorry but, a Nobody is the body + Soul.
JakeH: How can that prove your theory when the mind hasn't even been mentioned? Reports say "body, heart, soul" and thats it. The mind would probably go into the soul or body catagory.

I never saw an Ansem report with those exact words.

 

[JH]

But then what could it be? If Nomura said that since we know that Heartless are hearts and nobodies and body and soul then we could figure out what they are, what can it possibly be?

 

[Axel's Fire]

No, from what I remember, it is just the body. But it appears to have a soul because of its higher level of thinking. Nobodies exist in complete societies, where Heartless are mere scavangers.

Here:

Ansem Report 13 -

When the heart casts off the flesh, where does the body go?

Heart and soul are separate, and the spirit remains in the body. But can we assume that the leftover body and soul perish?

Certainly when the heart changes into a Heartless the body disappears.

However, that is only this world's story; in another world, mightn't they change forms like the Heartless and exist there?

If we take that to be the case, there must be a you other than yourself existing somewhere.

An existence neither of darkness nor of light.
An in-between existence.
Cast off by the heart, a mere shell, one who begrudges both the darkness and the light.

This mystery cannot be easily resolved.
The relationship between the heart and the flesh is a complex one.

But since we exist here, they cannot be termed as existent.
Therefore I shall call them...

"The non-existent ones."

Hope that clears things up a bit.

 

[Charlie K]

What are your reasons for doubting it?

Umm Oh sorry, It just seems out of the ordinary for KH. Like some may say great but it seem weird for me.